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post #1 of 51
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Im looking at getting a projector. I was thinking of not getting a 3D one as my telly is 3d but now im thinking ill kick myself if i dont.

Basically im thinking of keeping my 50" samsung for normal tv watching in the day and 3d stuff when i dont want to set up the projector.

But im now thinking of going 3d on a bigger screen. Im just a bit confused as there seems to be extra boxes you need and other things so looking for some help.

Would the optoma gt750 be any good? And do i simply plug this into my 3d bluray player and it will project 3d images or do i need another box to attach to it?

If it is as simple as getting glasses and plugging it in, are there any projectors at a better price?
post #2 of 51
With the gt750 you don't need any other box. Just find the appropriate glasses and you are good to go.
post #3 of 51
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Ok thanks. And they are just infra red glasses. Would my ifra red samsung glasses work with the projector?

Would i be better going down the route of either buying a 3d passive tv or setting up a passive projector? Is there quality difference. . .

Im hoping to do film nights with a large group of people so not sure if buying lots of activ glasses would be suitable.
post #4 of 51
I don't know anything about the glasses required. If you plan on hosting 3d movies, you really need to factor in that cost.
post #5 of 51
[quote=langers_2004;21562439]Im looking at getting a projector. I was thinking of not getting a 3D one as my telly is 3d but now im thinking ill kick myself if i dont.

Basically im thinking of keeping my 50" samsung for normal tv watching in the day and 3d stuff when i dont want to set up the projector.

But im now thinking of going 3d on a bigger screen. Im just a bit confused as there seems to be extra boxes you need and other things so looking for some help.

Would the optoma gt750 be any good? And do i simply plug this into my 3d bluray player and it will project 3d images or do i need another box to attach to it?

If you have a 3d tv, then your set already on the quality of 3d and being able to play 3d games with minimal lag, but the only downsize is the screen size. The smaller the screen the smaller the 3d effects

I just recently purchased the 3010 from (amazon) a few weeks ago, and never looked back. Its a wonderful projector and the 3d really is amazing. The glasses are decent as well. If you need lens shift, or have a bat cave then i would suggest the 5010 model. If not Amazon has the Epson 3010 for $1420 right now (new) with free shipping And the 5010 is $2699 right now

If you'd rather skip 3d, then i would suggest the 8350 model but for a few hundred more you get 3d! Plus you can save a lot of money by skipping the theaters and waiting for it to hit bluray. In the end the 3d will pay for its self, unless you never watch 3d movies in the theaters lol.
post #6 of 51
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[quote=mat82284;21562978]
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Originally Posted by langers_2004 View Post

Im looking at getting a projector. I was thinking of not getting a 3D one as my telly is 3d but now im thinking ill kick myself if i dont.

Basically im thinking of keeping my 50" samsung for normal tv watching in the day and 3d stuff when i dont want to set up the projector.

But im now thinking of going 3d on a bigger screen. Im just a bit confused as there seems to be extra boxes you need and other things so looking for some help.

Would the optoma gt750 be any good? And do i simply plug this into my 3d bluray player and it will project 3d images or do i need another box to attach to it?

If you have a 3d tv, then your set already on the quality of 3d and being able to play 3d games with minimal lag, but the only downsize is the screen size. The smaller the screen the smaller the 3d effects

I just recently purchased the 3010 from (amazon) a few weeks ago, and never looked back. Its a wonderful projector and the 3d really is amazing. The glasses are decent as well. If you need lens shift, or have a bat cave then i would suggest the 5010 model. If not Amazon has the Epson 3010 for $1420 right now (new) with free shipping And the 5010 is $2699 right now

If you'd rather skip 3d, then i would suggest the 8350 model but for a few hundred more you get 3d! Plus you can save a lot of money by skipping the theaters and waiting for it to hit bluray. In the end the 3d will pay for its self, unless you never watch 3d movies in the theaters lol.

Cool thanks. They are a tad out of my price range which is why ive been looking at the optoma. Would this still be give rave reviews?
post #7 of 51
I'll echo what Mat said. I went back and forth about 3D too, cause I just didn't know how much I'd really enjoy it. The times when I've seen 3D movies at the theater, I can't really say I was blown away. My girlfriend talked me into getting the 3D so I bought the same projector Mat did, the Epson 3010. To make a long story short, I am REALLY glad I didn't go with another 2D projector. The 3D on the Epson is bright and beautiful, and the 2D image was a signifcant step up from my Mitsubishi 4900 that I replaced.

I would also take Mat's advice about the lens shift. If you need that, go with the 5010, cause the 3D on the 3010 is absolutely affected by keystone adjustment. I never took keystoning all that seriously cause with 2D material I honestly can't see the difference, especially when I'm into the movie. But with 3D it was an easily discerned improvement when I ceiling mounted it and stopped using the keystone.
post #8 of 51
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Originally Posted by langers_2004 View Post

Ok thanks. And they are just infra red glasses. Would my ifra red samsung glasses work with the projector?

Would i be better going down the route of either buying a 3d passive tv or setting up a passive projector? Is there quality difference. . .

Im hoping to do film nights with a large group of people so not sure if buying lots of activ glasses would be suitable.

DLP link glasses work with GT750 projector. May be able to get the IR glasses to work but will need more gear with it. As for passive that would require a special screen and a second projector I believe.
post #9 of 51
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Originally Posted by Summa View Post

I'll echo what Mat said. I went back and forth about 3D too, cause I just didn't know how much I'd really enjoy it. The times when I've seen 3D movies at the theater, I can't really say I was blown away. My girlfriend talked me into getting the 3D so I bought the same projector Mat did, the Epson 3010. To make a long story short, I am REALLY glad I didn't go with another 2D projector. The 3D on the Epson is bright and beautiful, and the 2D image was a signifcant step up from my Mitsubishi 4900 that I replaced.

I would also take Mat's advice about the lens shift. If you need that, go with the 5010, cause the 3D on the 3010 is absolutely affected by keystone adjustment. I never took keystoning all that seriously cause with 2D material I honestly can't see the difference, especially when I'm into the movie. But with 3D it was an easily discerned improvement when I ceiling mounted it and stopped using the keystone.

This i totally agree about. I tried the keystone on the 3010 and the image in 3d was degraded heavily. Since I wasnt using a ceiling mount I used a shelf that was hanging on the wall. This worked well with my 8500ub, but the 3010 wouldn't work without keystoning it. So basically turned the 3010 upside down and set it on a microfiber towel to protect the outer case and matched the middle of the lens to the top of my screen and it matched up perfectly.

I did this because it keeps the projector out of the way and I didn't like how you would have to lower the mount to match the top of the screen. My screen is actually 4 feet away from the ceiling so for me its a significant drop, but not so much for other people.

langers_2004 when you say your looking at the optoma, which model is that? If your referring to the 3d one, then you need to remember you also need to purchase glasses for them, which will make the cost more than the epson.

I honestly love epson because of the customer service. They will replace blown bulbs, units super fast and its a 2 year warranty. The warranty is definitely worth it.

If you decide against 3d, look for a 8350.

Lastly, be extra cautious about purchasing a projector second hand. If the warranty was used or registered then you loose that warranty since its not transferable. If the original owner never used it or registered it, then you are in luck. Almost all projector manufactures are this strict on there warranty, so just keep that in mind.

Either way you will be blown away by a 2d or 3d projector if you've never had one before. I have a 54 plasma and after watching movies on the projector my plasma looks extremely small!

If you have any other questions, just ask. Also you might want to checkout bestbuy since they do demo projectors, that way you can see what they look like in person.
post #10 of 51
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Originally Posted by mat82284 View Post

langers_2004 when you say your looking at the optoma, which model is that? If your referring to the 3d one, then you need to remember you also need to purchase glasses for them, which will make the cost more than the epson.

The Optoma GT750 he mentioned would not cost more then the epson even after buying a pair of DLP link glasses.
http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-GT750-P.../dp/B00556F900 $872.00

http://www.amazon.com/True-Depth-3D-...7820141&sr=1-3 2 pair $150

Cost is $1022.00

8350= $1199 no 3D http://www.amazon.com/Epson-PowerLit...7820350&sr=1-1

3010= $1419 w/2 pair glasses http://www.amazon.com/Epson-PowerLit...7820408&sr=1-1
post #11 of 51
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Originally Posted by man4mopar View Post

The Optoma GT750 he mentioned would not cost more then the epson even after buying a pair of DLP link glasses.

Oh that optoma, I thought he was thinking of the hd33. That is a 720p projector so its in a different category than the hd33 and epson 3010.

If he wants a 720p projector then that will be a decent deal, but 1080p is really where you want to be at if you have anything over 80inches.
post #12 of 51
Thread Starter 
Ok thanks.

Yer thats the model. i can get one over here for £400 without glasses and these are only £30 a pair.

I was going to be projecting to around a 120" screen, but my plasma is only 720p and i can honestly not notice any difference in quality compared to 1080.
post #13 of 51
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Originally Posted by langers_2004 View Post

Ok thanks.

Yer thats the model. i can get one over here for £400 without glasses and these are only £30 a pair.

I was going to be projecting to around a 120" screen, but my plasma is only 720p and i can honestly not notice any difference in quality compared to 1080.

Well in case your not aware the GT750 is designed as a gameing projector. Has almost 0 input lag which is important for FPS, Rockband or anything requireing quick action to visual input. It can and will play movies, tv etc all in 2D or 3D. But there are projector's out there that will do a better job. But maybe not doing both 3D and 2D in it's price range. But for sure are a number of them that will do 2D only and better then the GT750.

I recomend reading the official threads to these.

720P 3D projectors.
Optoma GT750- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1339786
Acer H5360 would need a box to do 3D Blu-ray- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1193088

1080P 2D projectors.
LCD Epson 8350- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1280137
DLP Mitsubishi HC4000- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1331261 (For best 2D in your price range I would really look into this one, course I lean towards DLP tech)
DLP View Sonic Pro8200- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1298652

Smaller screen's 720P and 1080P will be hard to spot the difference up to around 50"-55". Going to 120" 1080P and 720P will be easier to spot the improvement. Not to say 120" screen with 720P will look bad, it looks good people did it before 1080P was available. 3D is very cool so if is a tech you would like in your home the GT750 or the H5360 are the two I would concentrate my research into.
If you can spring more the budget 1080P 3D projector's are the Optoma HD33, Epson 3010 and the Acer H9500BD.
post #14 of 51
Thread Starter 
Great thanks.

That has cleared up a few things. I will look into the 1080 ones. Although i dont think ill ever have a 1080 projector to compare the 720 to if i get it so dont think itll bother me.
post #15 of 51
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Had a quick look and people seem to rave about the optoma. I think for my price range that is the way to go. I will just have to work out which glasses i can use for it.

Im struggling to find if my samsung ones will work.
post #16 of 51
Also note that the gt750e sold at Best Buy comes with glasses (I don't recall whether one or two). The website is very unclear, but on the boxes it will indicate that glasses are included. BB also reduces the price by $100 every now and then and it seems that individual stores lower the price on their own.
post #17 of 51
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Originally Posted by Sonyad View Post

Also note that the gt750e sold at Best Buy comes with glasses (I don't recall whether one or two). The website is very unclear, but on the boxes it will indicate that glasses are included. BB also reduces the price by $100 every now and then and it seems that individual stores lower the price on their own.

Cheers. I dont think best buy is in the UK. Ive found somewhere over here that sells them for £500, not the 400 i thought.

Im just trying to work out if you can get a dlp and the 3d conversion box for cheaper than this?!
post #18 of 51
Cheerio, I guess not. I know Monoprice has a box http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 that many people said worked for them. I don't know if they ship to the UK.
post #19 of 51
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I think that this would be compatable if im understanding things right.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Optoma-3D-...ht_3492wt_1189

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Optoma...#ht_4108wt_956

Does anyone know comparison of this compared to the 750?
post #20 of 51
With that 4:3 native aspect ratio, I don't think it compares. The gt720 would be the lower level gaming projector that requires the box.
post #21 of 51
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Ok thanks. The 720 with a box and glasses would be loads more then the 750 and glasses.
post #22 of 51
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Originally Posted by langers_2004 View Post

Ok thanks. The 720 with a box and glasses would be loads more then the 750 and glasses.

Looks like you found your projector, but again I highly suggest taking a look at them in person. If there is a bestbuy or equivalent store in your area you should go check them out in person. 120" at 720p might be a big disappointment. The resolution is only 1280x800 which means a lot more pixelation. On a 55" screen its pretty much unnoticeable, but at 120 it will be much much more noticeable. Projectors are not easily returnable which is why i suggest finding a local store to compare them at.

Also if your going to run 3d, dont forget that if you dont run the projector specifically in hdmi 1.4 mode you will loose resolution as well. With hdmi 1.4 mode the projector uses 240hz to flip between two images. If you don't use hdmi 1.4 you have to run it in side by side mode, or top and bottom mode. Those modes split the resolution in half. I've noticed the big difference in quality between hdmi 1.4 3d and side by side 3d on my projector and its night and day difference with a blu-ray. If your running a downloaded mkv file the resolution is probably already hurting. So keep that in mind as well. This is why i suggest you take a trip to the store before purchasing it.
post #23 of 51
This one doesn't need a box for 3D either, is available in the UK. H5360BD The BD meaning will do Bluray 3D's from a 3D bluray player. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-H5360BD...7891559&sr=8-1
post #24 of 51
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Originally Posted by man4mopar View Post

This one doesn't need a box for 3D either, is available in the UK. H5360BD The BD meaning will do Bluray 3D's from a 3D bluray player. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-H5360BD...7891559&sr=8-1

When I read the user reviews from this page http://www.projectorcentral.com/Acer...nal-Advantages it seems that you did need a box for the 5360 if using a standalone 3D blu ray player because it's not hdmi 1.4. Very confusing.
post #25 of 51
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That acer would again be a bit of a saving.

Will have to find out if you dont need a box to use 3D perhaps people on here own that one.
This review just says you need glasses too...

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/proje...2/acer-h5360bd

I guess its which projector is better out of the two now.

I just thought that my projector location will be infront of me rather than cealing mounted. I assume these modern unites can manage that like old units. The screen will be around 9ft away.
post #26 of 51
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Originally Posted by Sonyad View Post

When I read the user reviews from this page http://www.projectorcentral.com/Acer...nal-Advantages it seems that you did need a box for the 5360 if using a standalone 3D blu ray player because it's not hdmi 1.4. Very confusing.

Yeah I can see that maybe this will clear it up, we are talking two unit's Acer H5360 and a Acer H5360BD, Acer add's the BD to the end if it will display 3D from a 1.4 compliant source such as PS3, 3D BD player and now the 360 I believe.
post #27 of 51
Here is the official thread on the H5360BD specific model- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1318769
post #28 of 51
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Originally Posted by man4mopar View Post

Here is the official thread on the H5360BD specific model- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1318769

Cheers for that.

People seem a bit more 'up beat' about the acer. Should i take this of an indication that its better? :-p
post #29 of 51
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Originally Posted by langers_2004 View Post

Cheers for that.

People seem a bit more 'up beat' about the acer. Should i take this of an indication that its better? :-p

Wish I could help you there, I have no experience with either unit, nor the research into them to say one or the other. Thinking your asking between the GT750 and H5360BD. They are both DLP projectors, things to research are out of box calibration, throw distance, image calculator's to see if either work better for your room, contrast ratio etc.
I guess I have read more on the H5360BD but maybe because I own the H9500BD and people in that thread have upgraded to the H9500BD and wrote comparison's.
But with the threads you have knowledge of now the GT750 and H5360BD you can research into what you feel is the better unit for you.
post #30 of 51
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Originally Posted by man4mopar View Post

Wish I could help you there, I have no experience with either unit, nor the research into them to say one or the other. Thinking your asking between the GT750 and H5360BD. They are both DLP projectors, things to research are out of box calibration, throw distance, image calculator's to see if either work better for your room, contrast ratio etc.
I guess I have read more on the H5360BD but maybe because I own the H9500BD and people in that thread have upgraded to the H9500BD and wrote comparison's.
But with the threads you have knowledge of now the GT750 and H5360BD you can research into what you feel is the better unit for you.

Ok thanks :-)

I think the acer seems better, im on a tight budget and the bulbs and actual unit are cheaper. The throw distance of the optoma is slightly shorter, but i have around 3metres from the screen so im hoping this wil be enought to achieve around 120" with the acer.

I assume your unit is the model up. Did you purchase official glasses or cheaper ones? There are pairs for around £35 each which seems very reasonable.
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