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post #31 of 60
Agree it is a 5400. TC Sounds states that they supply drivers to many OEMS, it may be a "spec" driver. Looking at the pictures the enclosure appears to be a stacked ply construction using dowels to align the pieces. Curious about the quoted response. Does an anechoic chamber provide gain? The amp specs say no eq is used in the amp.
post #32 of 60
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Originally Posted by BassMasterG View Post

Here's a shot of one with one of my V3's ( sorry but my iphone's lens isnt capable of capturing the whole system ) The finish reflects everything so i took kind of a top shot so you wont be blinded by it and my gothams are put away in there boxes for protection. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...mg0833524.jpg/

The link is not working for me. More proof!
post #33 of 60
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The link is not working for me. More proof!

Worked for me...just very slow loading
post #34 of 60
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How were you able to discern that? It seems a rather bold statement to make considering you've never heard it for yourself, nor has anyone even tested it yet to determine what it's true capabilities are. I'm not saying it makes sense -- or there's a market for it -- but categorically stating what it can/can't do based solely upon conjecture strikes me as a bit premature.

Well there's objective data supplied by the manufacturer and physics.
They state there is a single 18" driver, it's x-max,the amplifier power, and the enclosure volume. Not that mysterious.
Tim
post #35 of 60
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I could take 2K and outperform that sub in every possible way. What a waste.

I believe it. Plus you could actually move it around if necessary.
post #36 of 60
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The link is not working for me. More proof!

Thanks. This made me realize the firewall at work wasn't allowing the picture to load; added proxy and it works now. That thing is a beast, but I bet one of Warpdrv's dual opposed LMS 5400's could hit at least the same SPL and at a fraction of
the cost. His cabinets are very inert so I imagine sound quality would be indistinguishable, especially under blind conditions
post #37 of 60
I think that Funky Waves could provide virtually the same peformance for about 25% of the cost of this statement piece.
post #38 of 60
16-15s
18,000W
12 preset FRs
$5,000 kept in your pocket



And... need to hear the sub in the OP before passing judgement? Yeah, not so much.

Bosso
post #39 of 60
^ LOL! Game, set, match!
post #40 of 60
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^ lol! Game, set, match!

+1
post #41 of 60
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post

I think that Funky Waves could provide virtually the same peformance for about 25% of the cost of this statement piece.

For that much one could get 5! 18.0's, that would provide nearly 4 times the linear cone displacement(a full 5 times with the 5400, as it is the same driver) and 12kW watts RMS, 20kW peak power, and at that quantity we could probably throw in an extra one!
post #42 of 60
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Originally Posted by bossobass View Post

16-15s
18,000W
12 preset FRs
$5,000 kept in your pocket



And... need to hear the sub in the OP before passing judgement? Yeah, not so much.

Bosso

yes please !!!!!
post #43 of 60
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Originally Posted by Sidewayz View Post

So it's fair to say they don't need to mark you down for duals? I don't think they care if some MDF box from Seaton or duralined cabinet from JTR play louder. Wrong on so many levels? Maybe, but God bless them for doing it I say!!

is something wrong with MDF ?

i bet the submersive's dual opposed design has less box resonance than that $15,000 subwoofer

the sub M also has some pretty nice finishes available

as far as the captivator, i'm sure Jeff could add 900 pounds of baltic birch if he felt it would actually do something for performance but it's not necessary
post #44 of 60
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Originally Posted by bossobass View Post

16-15s
18,000W
12 preset FRs
$5,000 kept in your pocket



And... need to hear the sub in the OP before passing judgement? Yeah, not so much.

Bosso

As cool as those subs look(and they most definitely look sweet), I think the equipment looks even better.
post #45 of 60
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Originally Posted by capecodorthopod View Post

Well there's objective data supplied by the manufacturer and physics.
They state there is a single 18" driver, it's x-max,the amplifier power, and the enclosure volume. Not that mysterious.
Tim

Objective data turned into a subject assessment? So it is still a mystery it seems.
post #46 of 60
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Originally Posted by bossobass View Post

16-15s
18,000W
12 preset FRs
$5,000 kept in your pocket

So what do you do with that beast? Have movie nights for the entire neighborhood, while everyone is sitting outside in your backyard?
post #47 of 60
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Originally Posted by otk View Post

#1.) is something wrong with MDF ?

#2.) i bet the submersive's dual opposed design has less box resonance than that $15,000 subwoofer

#3.) the sub M also has some pretty nice finishes available

#4.) as far as the captivator, i'm sure Jeff could add 900 pounds of baltic birch if he felt it would actually do something for performance but it's not necessary

#1..............ask Seaton

#2..............who cares

#3..............yep

#4..............who cares #2
post #48 of 60
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post


Objective data turned into a subject assessment? So it is still a mystery it seems.

No. Just keep it objective. We're talking about faithfully reproducing a source with very low THD at a given SPL over the frequency range stated by Lycan Audio for the Ulric (17-150 hz.) I stand by my statement that a Submersive HP or Powered Cap would "keep up" with an Ulric at a fraction of the weight and cost. So multiples will exceed performance with less weight and cost with a more even response.
Forget about what project bosso or N8Dogg could produce with an allowance of 700 lbs and $15000 in one box or multiple.
C'mon JimWilson your assuming an indefensible position. The excessive weight and cost of the Ulric does not translate into a commensurate level of performance. Seems obvious to most here
Tim
post #49 of 60
This $15k sub?

Yawn.

Bosso's solution?

Epic!
post #50 of 60
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

This $15k sub?

Yawn.

Bosso's solution?

Epic!

And much more aesthetic, not that the Ulric is unattractive, but bosso's is more distinctive. That seems more deserving of a premium in cost than the Lycan product without the absurd weight IMO.
Tim
post #51 of 60
All in all, this Ulric does not look like a bad sub. Badly over-priced? yup. But a TC Sounds driver in a heavily braced box with an ample amount of power is a recipe for a good subwoofer. I could certainly do better for 15k, but if someone offered me one of these, I definitely wouldn't say no.
post #52 of 60
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

All in all, this Ulric does not look like a bad sub. Badly over-priced? yup. But a TC Sounds driver in a heavily braced box with an ample amount of power is a recipe for a good subwoofer. I could certainly do better for 15k, but if someone offered me one of these, I definitely wouldn't say no.

I don't think anyone is contesting that it's a good subwoofer; it's the cost and unnecessary materials used that we take issue with. Still, it's a free country and more power to you if you want to sell something like this. People will buy it, so mission accomplished for them I guess. For those of us that are informed, though, we won't be fooled. No offense to those who own it, by the way.
post #53 of 60
With the optional combo lock, it doubles as a vault.
post #54 of 60
Hell just one of Warpdrv's subs would be better as it uses 2 LMS5400 drivers. It looks better and performs better and much cheaper! Notnyt as well, except that is a plain black box. For that much money it is easy to make them pretty.
post #55 of 60
$15,000 for a sub may seem expensive, but it is very cheap compared to what speakers can sell for. For those with lots of resources, it is more important to own objects that few people can afford than to own things that perform better. It's all about the image that is projected.
post #56 of 60
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

Hell just one of Warpdrv's subs would be better as it uses 2 LMS5400 drivers. It looks better and performs better and much cheaper! Notnyt as well, except that is a plain black box. For that much money it is easy to make them pretty.

That's exactly what I said. Patrick has three of those monsters and they cost far less than this thing! Oh, they sound amazing too.
post #57 of 60
Ten Rythmik F25s probably sounds pretty righteous too. Not light in total, but you can take multiple trips to move them. Good low-end extension, I'd bet.
post #58 of 60
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Originally Posted by bossobass View Post

16-15s
18,000W
12 preset FRs
$5,000 kept in your pocket



And... need to hear the sub in the OP before passing judgement? Yeah, not so much.

Bosso

So the system shown is for sale to the public for $10,000? Complete with 16 LMS drivers? If not, it's apples/oranges...
post #59 of 60
They don't need to be LMS drivers to completely decimate that single LMS. Sorry, the TC LMS-U is a fan-f**king-tastic driver but noooo way will it even begin to compete with 16 15's and over 16 kilowatts of power. Doing all that while saving money in the process?

A smart man will go with option 'B'. B for Bosso.

SeewhatIdidthere?
post #60 of 60
I just wanted to clarify if this is a system for sale on a retail basis, or just a "look what I built". Not a fair comparison if not for sale like the sub in question. Very cool stuff either way, and Bosso has every right to be proud of it although I will say most of us that frequent this site have seen it before...

Also I stand corrected on the drivers.
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