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What they didn’t announce is the draconian Cinavia copy protection is also included. Right away I started having identical issues on two separate systems. Just moving the mouse would cause Power Dvd to crash.
This was with Oblivion Island and other Blu-ray’s. Further I was forced to run AnyDvd as Power DVD refused to play falsely claiming I was using analog outputs.
The situation is totally out of control. I was able to reinstall the 1904 build. I guess I’m stating with this version forever and will not be “upgrading” to Windows 8.
Frankly what is wrong with Windows 7 and especially Windows Media Center? Nothing!
Power DVD 12 has tried to take over my home network and build libraries and report playback to Hollywood and advertisers. For those foolish enough to allow the fox in, now the Cinavia digital rights management kicks in. Consumers need Hollywood’s permission for playback, which is their real ulterior goal.
To remain in charge of my own computer, I disable Cyberlink services in msconfig.exe, Windows firewall and Local Services. I also disabled Flexnet DRM from Macrovision Europe.
This mindset extends to the latest technology as your ISP, smart phone, credit card company or social sites control and track your every keyboard input or mouse click without permission. Your fixed IP address is your Social Security Number on the Internet. Understand it too should be hidden and protected.
The point here is I want keep my privacy and not need Internet permission to playback a movie or song I’ve purchased. Things are so bad I’ve been forced go the encrypted VPN route (I luv it!) for $80 year. Now no one can profit from tracking or dictate to me. Technology should be used to improve the quality of consumer’s lifestyle and not take away basic human rights.
So CyberLink, my upgrades are over as the relationship has too many insurmountable obstacles. Give my rights back

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I dont think PowerDVD, Hollywood, or your ISP is secretly out to get you. :)
PowerDVD 12 doesn't report playback to Hollywood and advertisers when Moovielive is disabled. The services that stay in memory are related to remote control functionality and DLNA support. I've never heard of an ISP that tracks every keyboard input or mouse click. The only way they could do that is installing a keylogger on your machine/device; which I've never heard of such thing. Both ISP's and commercial VPN providers track your internet activity in case it's needed in a government subpoena. The only thing you gain by using a VPN is allowing your VPN service track your activity instead of your ISP. :)
Having said that, I also plan on sticking with Win7; at least, until I find something that Win8 does that I need; which WIn7 can't do.

The latest version of Power DVD 12 Ultra for download/update contains an update for Windows 8 and claims to make the 3D window size 1920*1080. One has to download an installer first (CyberLink_PowerDVD_Downloader.exe) which verifies your system. Only then do you get the real download from hell --> PowerDVD12.Patch.DVD120702-07.exe
What they didn’t announce is the draconian Cinavia copy protection is also included. Right away I started having identical issues on two separate systems. Just moving the mouse would cause Power Dvd to crash.
This was with Oblivion Island and other Blu-ray’s. Further I was forced to run AnyDvd as Power DVD refused to play falsely claiming I was using analog outputs.
The situation is totally out of control. I was able to reinstall the 1904 build. I guess I’m stating with this version forever and will not be “upgrading” to Windows 8.
Frankly what is wrong with Windows 7 and especially Windows Media Center? Nothing!
Power DVD 12 has tried to take over my home network and build libraries and report playback to Hollywood and advertisers. For those foolish enough to allow the fox in, now the Cinavia digital rights management kicks in. Consumers need Hollywood’s permission for playback, which is their real ulterior goal.
To remain in charge of my own computer, I disable Cyberlink services in msconfig.exe, Windows firewall and Local Services. I also disabled Flexnet DRM from Macrovision Europe.
This mindset extends to the latest technology as your ISP, smart phone, credit card company or social sites control and track your every keyboard input or mouse click without permission. Your fixed IP address is your Social Security Number on the Internet. Understand it too should be hidden and protected.
The point here is I want keep my privacy and not need Internet permission to playback a movie or song I’ve purchased. Things are so bad I’ve been forced go the encrypted VPN route (I luv it!) for $80 year. Now no one can profit from tracking or dictate to me. Technology should be used to improve the quality of consumer’s lifestyle and not take away basic human rights.
So CyberLink, my upgrades are over as the relationship has too many insurmountable obstacles. Give my rights back

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I dont think PowerDVD, Hollywood, or your ISP is secretly out to get you.
PowerDVD 12 doesn't report playback to Hollywood and advertisers when Moovielive is disabled. The services that stay in memory are related to remote control functionality and DLNA support. I've never heard of an ISP that tracks every keyboard input or mouse click. The only way they could do that is installing a keylogger on your machine/device; which I've never heard of such thing. Both ISP's and commercial VPN providers track your internet activity in case it's needed in a government subpoena. The only thing you gain by using a VPN is allowing your VPN service track your activity instead of your ISP.

Having said that, I also plan on sticking with Win7; at least, until I find something that Win8 does that I need; which WIn7 can't do.
Here MasterCard is combing in-person purchases with online purchases. Their "proprietary technology is consumers fixed IP address. Virtually every web site records your unique ip-address. This semi-permanent number can be thought of as your Internet SSN.
Verizon draws fire for monitoring app usage, browsing habits.
and Verizon marketing boss Bill Diggins' words on the subject earlier this year are less than reassuring, however: "We're able to view just everything that they do. And that's really where data is going today. Data is the new oil."
Apple Has Quietly Started Tracking iPhone Users Again
How Long Does Your ISP Store IP-Address Logs?
Here is the favorite deep packet tool used by everyone, but seldom discussed.
Here is the loggers corporations and governments have installed to stress employees.
Here is the real-life Person Of Interest (my favorite show) one billion facial recognition camera system being integrated across America
Now take all these real-time databases and data mine to develop smart queries.
PowerDvd wants to require permission to play, the other system here want permission to buy and sell.
In conclusion you guys are obviously correct, this has nothing to do with privacy or freedom.
I guess this is what occurs when you watch 23 episodes of Person Of Interest. My bad!

Edited by HiFiFun - 10/25/12 at 2:58pm

In conclusion you guys are obviously correct, this has nothing to do with privacy or freedom.
I guess this is what occurs when you watch 23 episodes of Person Of Interest. My bad!

People need privacy and freedom to live.
People do not need PowerDVD to live. Billions of humans live without running PowerDVD.
There are also other options to run Blu-rays either standalone or on a computer.
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If anyone could answer, that would be great. I believe Fry's online still have PowerDVD12 for $20 AR thru today only, so if it does rip blurays 1-1 that would be nice. Unless there is another free program to do that. I'll probably still buy PowerDVD12 online since I still need something to play back physical disc in my htpc. Or if I use XBMC and select PowerDVD12 as an external device to play the 3D rips.
Thanks in advance!!!

Does PowerDVD12 allow you to rip blurays 1-1 or does it just allow you to play bluray disc, rips, and iso's? I usually use MakeMKV to make .mkv files, but I'm not sure if that is a true 1-1 rip? I guess people use DVDFab or AnyDVD to rip the full disc, but what is the file format or does it not matter? I was thinking it was always mkv, but I could be wrong. I'm sure once you rip the full bluray, you can use a cloning program and create an iso, then use virtual clone to mount it and play with PowerDVD12 (like 3D blu ray iso's)
If anyone could answer, that would be great. I believe Fry's online still have PowerDVD12 for $20 AR thru today only, so if it does rip blurays 1-1 that would be nice. Unless there is another free program to do that. I'll probably still buy PowerDVD12 online since I still need something to play back physical disc in my htpc. Or if I use XBMC and select PowerDVD12 as an external device to play the 3D rips.
Thanks in advance!!!
PowerDVD12 doesn't allow you to rip anything. For ripping you need something like AnyDVD which lets you rip to ISO or folder. If you want to transcode the rip to mkv then you need something like makemkv.
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AnyDVD HD or similar is usually used to create an ISO files, which is an 1-1 rip of the complete Blu-ray (Extras and Menus included) the ISO is then mounted and played back with PowerDVD.
MakeMKV rips the main movie to a MKV file, this is not a 1-1 of the complete disc but it is a contains 1-1 copy of the Video/Audio/Subtitles, the only thing not included is Menus/Extras.
MKV can then be played back without mounting straight from within the playback program (PowerDVD etc)
If you are playing back the physical disc you need a licenced player like PowerDVD, or something like AnyDVD that will remove the protection on the fly, allowing playback from other programs.
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PowerDVD does not rip Blu-rays, it just plays them back.
AnyDVD HD or similar is usually used to create an ISO files, which is an 1-1 rip of the complete Blu-ray (Extras and Menus included) the ISO is then mounted and played back with PowerDVD.
MakeMKV rips the main movie to a MKV file, this is not a 1-1 of the complete disc but it is a contains 1-1 copy of the Video/Audio/Subtitles, the only thing not included is Menus/Extras.
MKV can then be played back without mounting straight from within the playback program (PowerDVD etc)
If you are playing back the physical disc you need a licenced player like PowerDVD, or something like AnyDVD that will remove the protection on the fly, allowing playback from other programs.
Thanks Apgood and acejh1987! I guess if AnyDVD HD allows ripping and playing of bluray's, then wouldn't it make more sense to just get that vs. PowerDVD12? Or am I missing something. Currently I'm using XBMC and playing .mkv files on my htpc straight onto my AVR and TV. I read that XBMC could not play 3D iso's w/o an external program like PowerDVD12 or TMT5. I guess if AnyDVD HD will allow playing any full bluray as .iso's, thru XBMC, I'll probably go that route. But I have a feeling I would still need both programs?
Thanks for the info SamuriHL! So I guess it's better to use which software for playback? TMT5 or can AnyDVD HD do it.
Thanks peeps!
AnyDVD is not a playback software. It's used to decrypt and remove protection on the fly. And can be used to rip movies to your hard drive in ISO format or as folders. TMT5 also added Cinavia protection so it doesn't offer that as a benefit over PDVD12.
I see. Thanks for the heads up. Do you prefer PowerDVD or TMT? I tried to see reviews on Amazon but they both have pretty bad reviews, which seems odd b/c those 2 programs appear to be the ones people use for 3D bluray iso's.
Thanks,
Let me first caveat my response with the fact that I don't yet do 3D. I'm getting a new TV in January that will allow me to do so. However, I prefer TMT over PDVD. That being said, I don't generally use either much these days. I use MC18 + AnyDVD. That allows me to watch movie only off blu-ray. And I rip my movies to MKV which gets added to my library. That's my personal choice.
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The latest version of Power DVD 12 Ultra for download/update contains an update for Windows 8 and claims to make the 3D window size 1920*1080. One has to download an installer first (CyberLink_PowerDVD_Downloader.exe) which verifies your system. Only then do you get the real download from hell --> PowerDVD12.Patch.DVD120702-07.exe
What they didn’t announce is the draconian Cinavia copy protection is also included. Right away I started having identical issues on two separate systems. Just moving the mouse would cause Power Dvd to crash.
This was with Oblivion Island and other Blu-ray’s. Further I was forced to run AnyDvd as Power DVD refused to play falsely claiming I was using analog outputs.
The situation is totally out of control. I was able to reinstall the 1904 build. I guess I’m stating with this version forever and will not be “upgrading” to Windows 8.
Frankly what is wrong with Windows 7 and especially Windows Media Center? Nothing!
Power DVD 12 has tried to take over my home network and build libraries and report playback to Hollywood and advertisers. For those foolish enough to allow the fox in, now the Cinavia digital rights management kicks in. Consumers need Hollywood’s permission for playback, which is their real ulterior goal.
To remain in charge of my own computer, I disable Cyberlink services in msconfig.exe, Windows firewall and Local Services. I also disabled Flexnet DRM from Macrovision Europe.
This mindset extends to the latest technology as your ISP, smart phone, credit card company or social sites control and track your every keyboard input or mouse click without permission. Your fixed IP address is your Social Security Number on the Internet. Understand it too should be hidden and protected.
The point here is I want keep my privacy and not need Internet permission to playback a movie or song I’ve purchased. Things are so bad I’ve been forced go the encrypted VPN route (I luv it!) for $80 year. Now no one can profit from tracking or dictate to me. Technology should be used to improve the quality of consumer’s lifestyle and not take away basic human rights.
So CyberLink, my upgrades are over as the relationship has too many insurmountable obstacles. Give my rights back

i am in full support of this basic premise. I do not want my stuff , meaning my keystroke count and what/when i watch movies. that data is my own and do not like anyone gaining access to and worse yet. taking it out for publication. since there are no protections against most of these practices,it is considered legal. it is immoral from the concept. law or no. it is my intellectual process and therefore my property. what i do and create with my computer in my house , on my time has no business being sent to anyone else for statistical purposes and certainly not to add to a profit margin of some company i dont know and probably would not like if i did. in as much as the movie people feel their output is intellectual property and should be protected, i feel that way about what i do inside my own computer in my own house. i do not sell or try to make money from what i do though. i would like to see an actor who didnt borrow from those who came before in the development of their craft. i dont see why what movies i watch on my own tv should be the business of anyone else as i use the experiences to develop my own levels of relaxation techniques
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This misses the point. here in the use, Life , Liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS ARE IN OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AS 'Inalienable Rights' bestowed by the Creator whatever one believes that may be..... for all men. this supersedes any legal right one may banter about.
watching tv or a movie in your own house seems to fit there. one may not need it , one may be able to find these elsewhere but the right to pursue some level of happiness should not evoke others to get their dander up and spot plots to undermine hollywood or purloin actor's intellectual property. if someone gets caught selling things illegally, then use the existing laws, pre existing i should say, and take them to court. civil or penal consequences as appropriate. but, not to invade my house or my journals i opt to write on my computer and store electronically. not because of something i may be equipped to do by virtue or owning a computer . this is wrong and should be a stopped. it does no good and only harms people, individuals. supporting it in any way is just caving in on more freedom.
this country is only a couple of hundred yrs old and lots of people sacrificed everything to create a land were there are freedoms of expression of beliefs and just that 'right to pursue happiness' it is a critical point and must be protected if this place has any hopes on enduring the next hundred years with freedoms intact. saying there are other alternatives , so why complain about losing one is as insidious as other more aggressive proposal to inhibit free choice. as long as what i do is not harming others. and there are no facts that can prove that watching a movie in my own house can ever harm anyone in any way. nor would it infringe on any other person's pursuits of those same things that make them happy. though it is principally just the freedom to do so that is important.. nothing personal here. i was only trying to find out about updates to my pdvd12ultra and how it might help and what problems it may cause.
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This misses the point. here in the use, Life , Liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS ARE IN OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AS 'Inalienable Rights' bestowed by the Creator whatever one believes that may be..... for all men. this supersedes any legal right one may banter about.
You really need to take some lessons in law.
What the constitution mentions is things that the *government* may not infringe on. Not on how some purchased software behaves.
As soon as the government starts imposing limits on freedoms, you'll have a point. Until then, it's does not apply.
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Unfortunately, as soon as playback starts, my remote control stops working. I use iRule - an Android/iOS based remote control app that sends commands via IP to an applet (MCE Controller) running on the HTPC. MCE Controller translates those commands into the standard Windows keyboard shortcuts supported by Media Center (and which, incidentally, work perfectly in Arcsoft TMT).
The keyboard shortcuts work perfectly in the PowerDVD Cinema Mode UI, but during playback none of the transport commands work.
I read somewhere that disabling BD-J keyboard support (in BD playback settings) should fix this, but it did not.
Does anyone know of a way to get keyboard commands to work?
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This is when running the respective MediaCenter integrated players.
Can I really be the only one with this problem? Of course I can set up a separate set of buttons in iRule with the PDVD commands, but that should not be necessary.
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That's exactly what I did, and there is apparently a set of unique PDVD shortcuts, e.g. B skips back, F skips forward, space bar toggles pause/play, etc. None are the same as the standard Media Center shortcuts.
Which must mean that the media keys on a standard MCE keyboard won't work as expected either.
Since a regular MCE IR remote control does work (mostly) Cyberlink must have decided to support the eHome IR standard but use a non standard set of keyboard commands.
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@rickcfer:
Whenever you try to play a 23.976 fps Blu-ray, PDVD 12 helpfully asks you whether you want to match the display refresh rate with the frame rate. Andrew @ MissingRemote indicated that it locked on to 24 Hz for a 23.976 fps movie.
Auto refresh rate is not available for video files or 25 / 50 fps content (on a suitable display currently in NTSC land). At present, it is not a fully baked feature.
@SamuriHL:
The library build process is pretty crazy. I just left it to build after first start-up and didn't try to do anything on the computer for like a hour (depends on size of library, I guess). Too much hard drive activity was what both me and my colleague, Jarred, noted.
This works great for Blu-ray. Has there been any mention of matching the display frame rate on DVD or video files? It's very annoying when I have to manually change the display frame rate. I find if the rate is not matched the playback is not acceptable.
Does a player exist that auto matches all content?
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Do you guys know how to make PowerDVD12 to play DVD folders within Mediabrowser? I set PowerDVD as external player for DVD movies on the HD, but when I click on it, PowerDVD launch but stay at the Media Library screen. I have to manually browse to the folder on the HD and press play. Can it do it automatically?
I don't have that problem with MPC-HC. It just plays fine when you click on any movie in Mediabrowser. I want to use PowerDVD to playback the DVD folders on HD because it produces a sharper picture.
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However it took quite a bit of tweaking and I am using a geforce gtx 690.
The only thing i miss is sacd playback .
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