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post #121 of 189
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Sony hw50 is the most balanced projector, I think for someone buying a first unit is the best, or one of the best.

 

+1 As a first time projector owner who chose this unit after carefully reviewing many other options, I spent most of yesterday watching 2D action flicks (Bourne series) and finished it off with the Super Bowl.  I'm a heavy sports watcher and I'm used to Mits DLP's and the Pioneer Kuro so my expectations for this unit may have been a little lower than the average consumer but I feel this projector is just about perfect for the first time projector buyer not wanting to do CIH.  Even more so for those that don't really want to spend the time or money to do a full calibration as the OOTB settings are some of the best picture quality I've seen on any display device.  I bought this projector for its reported versatility in the current shootout thread and with the exception of the buzz in 3D (which I haven't thoroughly tested other an 2D-3D conversion due to lack of a source device), it hasn't disappointed.  I'll save the 3D comments for when I can do more testing myself but I believe Zombie's (as well as some other critical viewers on AVS) analysis and opinion go a long way in this regard and while not perfect, it's far better than the JVC and comparable to the Epson which are the top contenders for those wanting a one projector setup for 2D and 3D.

post #122 of 189
Awesome summary coderguy! I've been looking through AVS for a while trying to educate myself about projectors, and this thread really takes the cake on that. I wanted to ask your opinion: I watch mostly movies, do not care a lick about 3D (gives me a headache), do a little gaming, and like deep black levels, with a budget of ~$3500 or so. The obvious choice would be the JVS RS-45, BUT, my room is not light controlled. I can get it pretty dark during the daytime but there is one window I cannot block completely, so there will be some ambient light. Will this be a deal breaker for the JVC?
post #123 of 189
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Sony hw50 is the most balanced projector, I think for someone buying a first unit is the best, or one of the best.

+1 As a first time projector owner who chose this unit after carefully reviewing many other options, I spent most of yesterday watching 2D action flicks (Bourne series) and finished it off with the Super Bowl.  I'm a heavy sports watcher and I'm used to Mits DLP's and the Pioneer Kuro so my expectations for this unit may have been a little lower than the average consumer but I feel this projector is just about perfect for the first time projector buyer not wanting to do CIH.  Even more so for those that don't really want to spend the time or money to do a full calibration as the OOTB settings are some of the best picture quality I've seen on any display device.  I bought this projector for its reported versatility in the current shootout thread and with the exception of the buzz in 3D (which I haven't thoroughly tested other an 2D-3D conversion due to lack of a source device), it hasn't disappointed.  I'll save the 3D comments for when I can do more testing myself but I believe Zombie's (as well as some other critical viewers on AVS) analysis and opinion go a long way in this regard and while not perfect, it's far better than the JVC and comparable to the Epson which are the top contenders for those wanting a one projector setup for 2D and 3D.

thanks for your input..

what is CIH? sorry dont know.. and the ootb?

cheers
post #124 of 189
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thanks for your input..

what is CIH? sorry dont know.. and the ootb?

cheers

CIH Constant Image Height, http://www.avsforum.com/t/554901/2-35-constant-height-faq
OOTB, Out of the Box
post #125 of 189
What's the best projector in the $2000 and $3000 range for 2D only (I don't really care for 3D). I have a dedicated media room (12X22) with ambient light control.

My requirements:

1.) Clear sharp picture
2.) Lens memory to go back between 16:9 and 2.35:1
3.) Not too much noise from fan
post #126 of 189
From the first page, "Best 2D Image for Movies under $4000 = JVC RS-45/RS-46 LCOS with Lens Memory (CIH Ability)". I think the Panasonics in this price range, are the only other considerations for Lens Memory
post #127 of 189
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What's the best projector in the $2000 and $3000 range for 2D only (I don't really care for 3D). I have a dedicated media room (12X22) with ambient light control.

My requirements:

1.) Clear sharp picture
2.) Lens memory to go back between 16:9 and 2.35:1
3.) Not too much noise from fan

sound just what im looking for too.. biggrin.gif

so when you get a movie blue ray it would say on the back somewhere in print so small i need a magnifier these days to read that it has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 2.35:1 ?

are most 16:9 ?

thanks
post #128 of 189
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Originally Posted by smuggymba View Post

What's the best projector in the $2000 and $3000 range for 2D only (I don't really care for 3D). I have a dedicated media room (12X22) with ambient light control.

My requirements:

1.) Clear sharp picture
2.) Lens memory to go back between 16:9 and 2.35:1
3.) Not too much noise from fan

JVC RS-46 new or used JVC RS-45/RS-55
It has lens memory, best blacks, sharpest native non-DLP image.
post #129 of 189
Thanks coderguy. Why a used RS 45 - both new 45 and 46 seem to be the same price.
post #130 of 189

^^^^I think you just answered your own question...why pay the same price for last year's model new if you can get it used cheaper?

post #131 of 189
Guys, I ended up with more questions, even though the OP posted one of the best starter guides I've ever seen.

Here are my room specs:

1. Completely light controlled. Even grown men will be afraid of the dark, once the lights go out.
2. CIH 2.40:1 screen (115" wide, 48" tall, 125" diagonal), painted with SilverFire 2.0.
3. Shelf mounted PJ on rear wall @ 14' from the screen.
4. Two rows of seats (8.5' and 14')
5. Black walls and black ceiling.
6. Room is 14' deep, 12' wide and 8' tall.

What I want in a projector?

1. Price range of $1,500 (I could probably go up $200-$300 more)
2. NO 3D, I just want the best 2D in my price range
3. I'm a gamer, so response times are important.
4. DLP is a must! I come from an Epson 8350 and the sharpness was horrible. I really want to stay away from LCDs due to their convergence issues which are inherent to the 3-LCD panel design.

What you guys think? Like I said, I had an Epson 8350, so I want an upgrade when compared to that PJ, based on my room settings and wish list.

Thanks in advance!
post #132 of 189
^^
Epson costs $1100 or so - not sure how much upgrade you'll get for $400. Just my opinion.

On a side note - what types of projectors are better - LCD's or DLP's.
post #133 of 189
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^^
Epson costs $1100 or so - not sure how much upgrade you'll get for $400. Just my opinion.

On a side note - what types of projectors are better - LCD's or DLP's.

lasers...
post #134 of 189
Is it 100% sre that the Benq 1070 does real Tripple Flash (144Hz) for 1080p24 Blu-Ray 3D content? If so, with which glasses?

btw. If above is true this is amazing news. Even SIM2 does not do tripple flash in their 'cheaper' 3D-1 and 3D-2 models. It is only integrated in their 3D-S flagship model (which costst 40K)
post #135 of 189
The shutter frequency of the Benq has been measured by German guy:
http://www.hifi-forum.de/index.php?action=browseT&forum_id=94&thread=12583&postID=1#1
With automatic translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hifi-forum.de%2Findex.php%3Faction%3DbrowseT%26forum_id%3D94%26thread%3D12583%26postID%3D1%231

Tripple Flash is feature of the new TI 3D DC3 chipset. I expect that a lot of new projectors (like the Optoma HD25 or the Benq W1500) will also support Tripple Flash.
post #136 of 189
And which glasses are needed to get tripple flash work on the Benq 1070?
post #137 of 189
Hi Coderguy sure is a great descriptions on page one had to come back and re read.. couldnt find the thread for awhile ..

thanks..
post #138 of 189
anyone ever use redmere hdmi cables for there projector from monoprice?

cheers..

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post #139 of 189
I pretty much swear by them! Fixed a couple issues I had with long runs, high bandwidth material as well as a Darbee in the mix. No experience with the ultra thin line though. I have a 60 ft one and the shortest one in my chain.
post #140 of 189
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I pretty much swear by them! Fixed a couple issues I had with long runs, high bandwidth material as well as a Darbee in the mix. No experience with the ultra thin line though. I have a 60 ft one and the shortest one in my chain.

are you talking about the red mere hdmi by the way.. good to know...

i need more room and need to start building the theater room in my basement just got new massive paradigm speakers and my 1st amp







just hooked up my frozen amp letting it warm up a bit...

really happy with my sound system now...

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post #141 of 189
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I pretty much swear by them! Fixed a couple issues I had with long runs, high bandwidth material as well as a Darbee in the mix. No experience with the ultra thin line though. I have a 60 ft one and the shortest one in my chain.


are you talking about the red mere hdmi by the way.. good to know...

 

Yes, I was referring to your previous post.

post #142 of 189
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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

I pretty much swear by them! Fixed a couple issues I had with long runs, high bandwidth material as well as a Darbee in the mix. No experience with the ultra thin line though. I have a 60 ft one and the shortest one in my chain.


are you talking about the red mere hdmi by the way.. good to know...

Yes, I was referring to your previous post.

great to know they are good so i should buy some eh?

cheers.
post #143 of 189
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I would give out a best under $5000 3D image to the Acer 9500bd after I see more comparisons on it, but I'm not familiar enough with the $5000+ projectors to know for sure how it stacks up to quite go to the $20,000 category. I did give the Acer several awards though if you noticed



The awards I gave out above I actually have much knowledge about, many from first-hand testing I did myself, some of it is from other testers in here I consider experts and that I trust. We would need someone to compare the Acer to the Epson 5010 and Benq w7000 and Optoma hd8300 before the Acer 9500bd can be for sure declared the winner in 3D. Once I see someone do a non-bias comparison, then I might be ready to say that. The Benq w7000 might actually have a better IRIS after some firmware updates if they allow the IRIS in 3d.


So without those comparisons above, I cannot say one way or another.

I didn't notice you give any awards to the Acer...?
post #144 of 189
Thread Starter 
It changed as time went on, the Acer was at the top temporarily because it came out before many of the others. The Acer still has better blacks than the other ones.
post #145 of 189
I agree with the sticky. I think you could keep this stickied and keep editing the original post to keep it updated as new ones come out (example w1500 to replace the w1070 as it supposed to be similar in many aspects but new model and such).

I am going to be buying my first projector and found this summary a great read. I have read many other posts in here but I liked how this one broke down the advantages for each type in a very clear way. It has provided me with some of the best information for me so far as it helps me to be able to compare a large variety of projectors for different purposes so I can start to narrow down my search.

I was wondering if you could add in two categories into your 2d and 3d sections.

Best 2d picture on a small screen
Best 2d picture on a large screen (over 150")
Best 3d picture on a small screen
Best 3d picture on a large screen (over 150")

YOu mention a bit about this with some of the comments in particular sections but this would be nice in its own section. I know that lumens makes a difference but many change when calibrated so this would have more an impact on many projectors. SInce you have more experience here you could be able to highlight the ones that would show better in each environment. YOu have the light cannon award but that is just how powerful. What I was hoping is something like best picture calibrated at 3d (so would need to obviously have a certain amount of power but would be good at given the best picture. So basically a combination of power and quality for large screens and those then that would benefit from a small screen (example jvc).

YOu could also add:
Best projector during ambient light conditions

This would be good for those who want to do super bowl parties or get togethers that require light to be on while people walk around and still watch (kids birthday parties and such). I am making an assumption then more then just simple light conditions apply.
post #146 of 189
Thread Starter 
Some of the information is derived from Zombie10k's thread, some from the forums, and some from my own testing (it's a mix), and a little bit from review sites (though not much). About 50% to 60% I tested myself, the rest is as stated. The thread gets updated now and then, but it's still somewhat opinionated. Though I am careful to post info primarily only when enough people reach the same conclusion, or I am sure myself.

I doubt I will have as much time to test this year's projectors, for reasons stated earlier in the thread. For this upcoming year, I'll have to rely more on Zombie10k even then before, because I am going to take a break from projector bouncing for a bit smile.gif
Edited by coderguy - 3/22/13 at 4:49am
post #147 of 189
Thanks Coderguy for taking the time to put so much work into this thread.. awesome job!

My question is this

Hypothetically, If the hd33, the benq w1070 and 1080st were the same price.... Which one would you guys go with?

Gaming is important. PQ is important. CFI is important. (yes I know, but to me, its awesome, lol) oh and 3D is important too.

Thanks!!
post #148 of 189
Thread Starter 
The Benq w1070.
post #149 of 189
How about w1070 vs pt100au in a less-than-ideally light-controlled living room? Basically best pj under 1500 for picture quality, gaming, black levels and color... not caring too much about 3D
post #150 of 189
Thread Starter 
Benq is better and with much more accurate color.
Panny is only slightly brighter in its brightest mode, Benq is brighter in its best mode.
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