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post #571 of 1233
4/19/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

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Download the demo(s) I've made (there's a thread in this same forum section) and see if you have the same problem.

Another 1080P Demo Disc Project ... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ater+demo+disc

Home Theater Demo Disc - Version 2.0... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ater+demo+disc

The trackers for these are still out there, it might take a little looking but they are there.
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post #572 of 1233
4/19/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Unless you have other reference demo discs (like mine) you're not comparing Apples to Apples. Playing a high-bit rate full movie isn't going to be the same as playing a demo disc where you're quickly hoping back and forth between clip to clip. A full movie is going to pretty much stream continuously in a linear fashion, a demo disc will not by it's very nature.

Download the demo(s) I've made (there's a thread in this same forum section) and see if you have the same problem.

Thanks for the input, Steve.

I'm not sure I've explained the problematic behavior very well, but wouldn't the playing/streaming of a BD folder stored on an external HD of let's say Avatar or Inception (same scenes from the demo, mind you) behave in the same manner?

I believe I have tried one of the demo discs you'd made, the one I DL'ed a short time ago was 'Home Theater Demonstration Bluray v2.0' (see image of BR cover art attached), which exhibited the same exact type of behavior. Not sure what's causing the problem, but I would imagine accessing from a HD would be smoother than a BD disc...
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post #573 of 1233
4/19/12 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

Another 1080P Demo Disc Project ... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ater+demo+disc

Home Theater Demo Disc - Version 2.0... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ater+demo+disc

The trackers for these are still out there, it might take a little looking but they are there.

Thanks Leo, I believe I've actually tried out Steve's demo from the second link a short while ago and saw the same behavior...
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post #574 of 1233
4/20/12 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by tomd51 View Post

This is the torrent file that is contained w/in a zip file. Once you've downloaded that and opened the zip archive, it should contain a torrent file, which you should be able to double-click and download the torrent containing the segments for the Animation demo clips.

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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

All the files on the first page under their respective segments are files for the torrents. These should be saved to the harddrive first. Once downloaded they need to be extracted. Extract here works and its probably the easiest. Remember that to extract the ZIP file (torrent tracker) you need the password ("AVSFORUM"). Once the tracker is extracted you can just double click on it and will open the torrent client that will start the download.

Once the torrent finishes downloading, this file is also a compress file (RAR file), it needs to be extracted too (extract here would work too).

Awesome! Thanks for the response guys. I'm going to work on it more this weekend when I finally find some more time.
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post #575 of 1233
4/20/12 at 7:56am
Hi guys,

I downloaded the bass disc awhile ago... and without burning a disc i tried playing the m2ts files separately in my ps3 or pc, but the audio is missing (doesn't even appear in the properties), and plays as if its in slow motion (on both ps3 and pc). Have I done something wrong??
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post #576 of 1233
4/20/12 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by Superman2 View Post

Hi guys,

I downloaded the bass disc awhile ago... and without burning a disc i tried playing the m2ts files separately in my ps3 or pc, but the audio is missing (doesn't even appear in the properties), and plays as if its in slow motion (on both ps3 and pc). Have I done something wrong??

The PS3 does not play .m2ts files, you would need to convert the files to .TS files for the PS3 to be able to play the files directly. Regarding the audio all clips have either DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD audo, so unless your computer has the correct codecs to play these you will not get any sound.

There is a process to use MultiAVCHD that makes these discs playable on the PS3 through a thumb drive, that might be the next best thing to try.
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post #577 of 1233
4/20/12 at 9:35am
Hey guys, got an update on the issue I was running into with the full BD50 demo (and Scubasteve's ver. 2.0 demo as well) with dropped frames/audio.

Using an external HD docking station (via USB), I was able to take a different HD, load up the Reference Blu-Ray Demo Disc (BD50) as well as the smaller segments (separate Visual & Surround BD9 demos) and Scubasteve's Home Theater Demonstration Bluray v2.0), connect it to the Oppo and this time, no issues whatsoever with audio/video frame drops (insert cheers/Cosby Gang celebration)!!

The HD is a faster RPM speed (7200 as opposed to 5400), but I'm thinking it may have been more power related than drive speed. Strange I hadn't run into a similar issue w/other BD ISOs or folders, but they work in all their glory now.

Thanks again Leo and Steve for all your hard work on these, you guys rock!! -TD
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post #578 of 1233
4/20/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post


The PS3 does not play .m2ts files, you would need to convert the files to .TS files for the PS3 to be able to play the files directly. Regarding the audio all clips have either DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD audo, so unless your computer has the correct codecs to play these you will not get any sound.

There is a process to use MultiAVCHD that makes these discs playable on the PS3 through a thumb drive, that might be the next best thing to try.

ok, thanks... ill give multiavchd a try... and recheck my codecs then
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post #579 of 1233
4/20/12 at 9:21pm
Ok, I click mediafire for Animation Disc (post #3) ... click Download (17.44 KB) ... click Save ... download has completed then click Open ... WinRaR pop up window opens with the RaR_Animation_Disc.utorrent file ... but then a small

A pop up window: Please Purchase WinRar License
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Please note that WinRaR is not free software. After 40 days trail period you must either buy a license or remove it from your computer.

Option button to select either: Buy Online, How to Buy, Close, Help

Well it appears WinRaR software evaluation period of 40 days that was downloaded from post #1 is expired.
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post #580 of 1233
4/21/12 at 6:59am
Download 7-Zip, it free and works great for RAR and several other archive files:

http://www.7-zip.org/
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post #581 of 1233
4/23/12 at 7:39pm
I seem to be having some problems with the audio dropping out and the video studders sometimes on the Bass and Surround discs.

Using an Oppo bdp-83. The discs were done using imagburn. Oddly, when I backtrack back over the scene where audio drops or studders it plays fine.

anyone have an idea what might be the problem. I tried burning multiple discs but have the same problem. (??)

ps. thanks to all those who contributed to the demo discs. Great work superleo!
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post #582 of 1233
4/24/12 at 4:00am
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Originally Posted by Slitman View Post

I seem to be having some problems with the audio dropping out and the video studders sometimes on the Bass and Surround discs.

Using an Oppo bdp-83. The discs were done using imagburn. Oddly, when I backtrack back over the scene where audio drops or studders it plays fine.

anyone have an idea what might be the problem. I tried burning multiple discs but have the same problem. (??)

ps. thanks to all those who contributed to the demo discs. Great work superleo!

Players buffer maybe full, means that the bitrate of the disc is exceeding the rate in which your player is reading the data. Hitting rewind likely clears the buffer thus appears to playback ok momentarily.

Just my guess.
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post #583 of 1233
4/24/12 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by Slitman View Post

anyone have an idea what might be the problem. I tried burning multiple discs but have the same problem. (??)

Might want to try another brand of discs next time. And be sure to burn at a slow speed, just to be on the safe side.
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post #584 of 1233
4/24/12 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Might want to try another brand of discs next time. And be sure to burn at a slow speed, just to be on the safe side.

Yea ... I tried writing at 2x and 2.4x .. same deal. I will try another brand of discs and see if I get the same thing.

Was wondering if anyone else had similar experiences on their Oppo player.
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post #585 of 1233
4/27/12 at 9:41pm
I'm confused by the instructions.

I downloaded the full "RAR_Reference_BD50" torrent. The instructions indicate that there should be a single .rar file inside that needs to be extracted, but I get a directory called "RAR_Reference_BD50" that contains 58 .rar files:
RAR_Reference_BD50/Reference Blu-Ray Demo Disc.part[01-58].rar
Should these .rar files be extracted, one at a time, on top of each other?
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post #586 of 1233
4/28/12 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Morph1c View Post

Should these .rar files be extracted, one at a time, on top of each other?

While I don't understand the disconnect with the instructions, it seems that The Unarchiver utility I have installed automatically supports .rar files split into multiple-parts. I happened to double-click on part#35 and, after it did it's work, now have a directory called "BD50" that is 38G in size. Now I can play the individual files using VLC - cool beans!
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post #587 of 1233
4/29/12 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by Morph1c View Post

I'm confused by the instructions.

I downloaded the full "RAR_Reference_BD50" torrent. The instructions indicate that there should be a single .rar file inside that needs to be extracted, but I get a directory called "RAR_Reference_BD50" that contains 58 .rar files:

RAR_Reference_BD50/Reference Blu-Ray Demo Disc.part[01-58].rar

Should these .rar files be extracted, one at a time, on top of each other?

If you didn't have to unzip the tracker download is likely that you downloaded the original tracker. The tracker had to be changed to a zip file.

Once you open the torrent tracker and finishes with the download, these are RAR compressed file. As you discovered, you can double click on any af the RAR segments and the software will know how to put them (unpacked) correctly back together.
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post #588 of 1233
4/29/12 at 2:02pm
Can someone recommend a good external burner for the 36gb version for a Windows environment (even better, with USB 2 and 3 options so I can use it on older and newer laptops)?
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post #589 of 1233
4/29/12 at 7:12pm
I am not sure why Scubasteve deleted the outstanding instructions that were on his thread. So when I burned mine (BD50) I used these:

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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

If you are burning the "regular full version" of the BD50 onto a bluray DL disc...

Once you have the RAR 36GB file on your computer, unRAR the file by extracting it. Once extracted you will have the BDMV structure folder and a CERTIFICATE folder. At this point you can play the disc locally on your computer through TMT or PowerDVD or burn it to disc. With Imgburn open, click on the icon "write files/folder to disc" drag the BDMV folder into imgburn, click the calculator icon and will give you disc information. Click on the "label tab" and write a description for the disc. Then, click the icon to start burning; you'll get a prompt to write the CERTIFIATE folder say yes...once done that is it... test your disc.

The steps of changing the folder's to AVCHD etc are to make the smaller discs play on a PS3 from a thumb drive, if you are burning any of the discs to bluray disc, either 25G (for the smaller segments) or to a 50G DL disc (for the full version), there are no compatibility issues with any player.

It worked perfectly, but the version of ImgBurn I have prompted a little differently, so I documented the steps along the way. I just tested my disc today, and it works perfectly, so here is an attempt to make the instructions a little more user-friendly.

Superleo, please let me know if this is okay, and if you have any corrections:

These instructions were written for the full Blu-Ray 50GB version using ImgBurn v2.5.6.0 (which is current at this moment):
  1. Extract RAR file(s) (WinRAR has a free version you can download here: www.win-rar.com).
  2. Insert a blank 50GB Dual Layer Blu-Ray disc (BD-R DL) into your burner.
  3. Open ImgBurn software (ImgBurn is free also: www.imgburn.com).
  4. Click on the icon "write files/folder to disc".
  5. Drag the BDMV folder into ImgBurn (under the BD50 main folder you just extracted).
  6. Click the calculator icon.
  7. If prompted about including the 'CERTIFICATE' folder, click yes.
  8. If it prompts you about UDF file system, click yes.
  9. Now the "Information" tab should contain information about the disc and free space.
  10. Click the "Labels" tab and enter "Reference Blu-Ray Demo Disc" in the "UDF:" field.
  11. Click the "Build" icon to start burning.
  12. If you get the CERTIFICATE prompt once again, click yes.
  13. If you get a final confirmation prompt, click OK.
  14. When all is done, enjoy your demo, and don't forget to say "thanks" to Superleo.

P.S. Thanks Superleo!
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post #590 of 1233
4/30/12 at 4:49am
These instructions are also Windows-specific, at least the reference software programs are (Imgburn, TMT, PowerDVD)

PS: thanks superleo!
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post #591 of 1233
4/30/12 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by Morph1c View Post

These instructions are also Windows-specific, at least the reference software programs are (Imgburn, TMT, PowerDVD)

I don't have a Mac or Linux desktop to play with, but it is my understanding that most modern Macs can run an instance of Windows as a virtual computer, so the Windows-specific instructions might still work in that case.

Otherwise, I'd say Google is your friend. I know you can un-RAR archives and burn/watch blu-rays from a Mac. And I'd expect any Linux users to already be pretty savvy with this kind of stuff since most anything on that platform is a chore to get working. LOL
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post #592 of 1233
5/3/12 at 8:09am
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There were some instructions and software recommendations earlier for Mac users, but this was for the segment discs (DVD-DL), as far as I know, all you Mac users chip in, there is no Mac support for Blu-Ray.
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post #593 of 1233
5/6/12 at 2:44am
Outstanding work, thanks superleo
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post #594 of 1233
5/6/12 at 6:18am
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Outstanding work, thanks superleo

... Thank you for your country's wines. South Africa has been producing "World Class" wines for some time.

That is a good combination, a glass of South African wine to watch some Reference Demo clips.
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post #595 of 1233
5/13/12 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by superleo View Post

There were some instructions and software recommendations earlier for Mac users, but this was for the segment discs (DVD-DL), as far as I know, all you Mac users chip in, there is no Mac support for Blu-Ray.


I finally got the full BD50 disc burnt and, AFAICT, it plays perfectly (menus and all) on my Panasonic DMP-BDT110 player.

First I purchased a DIGISTOR External Blu-ray Burner and 3 Verbatim 50 GB double-layer discs.

After searching for free burning software, I learned that the Mac's built-in DiskUtility program could do it. I use this program to burn ISOs sometimes, and so was happy to learn it could burn a Blu-Ray disc as well. The only thing to keep in mind is that DiskUtility can only burn an image file, it cannot burn a BDMV folder or author a Blu-Ray disk.

Since Superleo's disk is a BDMV folder, I first tried to convert it to an image as follows:

Code:
1) create 40g img file  (couple gigs more just in case)

        dd if=/dev/zero of=./bd50.img bs=$((1024 * 1024 * 1024)) count=40

2) format with a udf 2.5 file system

        newfs_udf -r 2.5 bd50.img -v "Reference Blu-Ray Demo Disc"

3) mount the file system (it shows up in /Volumes)

        hdiutil mount -nobrowse bd50.img

4) copy BD50 there

        cp -R BD50/ /Volumes/Reference\\ Blu-Ray\\ Demo\\ Disc/

5) delete the .DS_Store and .Trashes

        rm -rf /Volumes/Reference\\ Blu-Ray\\ Demo\\ Disc/.DS_Store
        chmod 777 /Volumes/Reference\\ Blu-Ray\\ Demo\\ Disc/.Trashes
        rm -rf /Volumes/Reference\\ Blu-Ray\\ Demo\\ Disc/.Trashes

6) unmount the image

        hdiutil unmount /Volumes/Reference\\ Blu-Ray\\ Demo\\ Disc/

7) burn image to Blu-Ray disk using DiskUtility (select 2x speed if paranoid)

8) test it
        - the free eval version of "Mac Blu-Ray Player" works well
Unfortunately, this did not work, I think because my computer didn't have the drivers for the Digistore burner (FWIW, I'm running the "Lion" OS version). I wish I had another Blu-Ray burner, as I'm fairly confident the instructions above would've worked otherwise...

Anyway, not to be discouraged, I purchased Toast Titanium with Blu-Ray plugin. After selecting the main-menu's option for "BDMV folder", I dragged-and-dropped the "BD50" folder into it window, configured the write-speed to 2x, and hit the "burn" button. About 75 minutes later, the disc was done.

All in all, I created no coasters in the process, so I have two more blank Blu-Ray discs to play with. I think I'll burn another one for BIG as a perk for helping me out on my theater build

BTW, I've only watched a couple clips so far. I'm just validating my PJ works before its 15-day return policy runs out. In fact, I only have one speaker (the center channel) hooked up, so I'm in no position to provide a review of the disk's contents, which I can't wait to enjoy. Sadly, I need to take out the PJ, screen, and speaker today - as I need to sand/prime/paint the ceiling again - oh well. It'll be a couple weeks until I have it all put together again, with all speakers, carpet, chairs, etc. - then I'll really enjoy this disk - thanks again superleo!
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post #596 of 1233
5/13/12 at 10:38am
Can anyone provide a blue ray disk, I'll PayPal for disk and shipping, thanks.
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post #597 of 1233
5/13/12 at 12:55pm
Works great on an Oppo 93. Thanks for making this available!
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post #598 of 1233
5/13/12 at 3:48pm
Many thanks for this latest addition to HD demo land Leo (and the guys helping guide everyone). I am starting into the process to burn this one onto a Sony 2X 50GB BD-RE DL.

I also used this specific disc for burning ScubaSteve's demo discs. Steve's results came in one flavor that required 50GB DL discs. In a several places places in the thread for his first disc,, there were suggestions on using the above mentioned discs because the RE is rewritable and allows for erasing/reusing the disc if you run into problems rather than just making a coaster. Plus they were much less expensive than in the US and the ebay seller had great feedback.

Anyhow, the gentleman who sold them has change his ebay name from "j-stop" to "jp-gift". I also notice the prices are lots better than last year and he has Verbatim available now as well. This is the Sony link and this is the Verbatim link.

I have no affiliation with ebay or this gentleman, just trying to help out. Once I get everything in the right place, I'll help out with seeding. Thanks again Leo.
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post #599 of 1233
5/13/12 at 4:27pm
I am having an interesting problem.

I downloaded/installed utorrent. Downloaded/extracted the 50GB file (RAR_Reference_BD50.torrent.txt).

I tried double clicking on the file, then dropping the fuile on utorrent, then opening utorrent and double clicking on a couple of the 58 individual .rar files in the Files section of utorrent.

Nothing is happening. No downloads, nothing.

RAR_Reference_BD50 is showing under "Name" at the top of utorrent.

The 2 trackers showing in utorrent that where installed in the process are showing as "disabled". They are:

udp://tracker.open**********.com:/announce
udp://tracker.publicbt.com:/announce

When installing, I didn't allow all of the extra software crapola that the installer wanted to put in, but rather did a custom install.

What am I missing?
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post #600 of 1233
5/13/12 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Ray**W View Post

I am having an interesting problem.

I downloaded/installed utorrent. Downloaded/extracted the 50GB file (RAR_Reference_BD50.torrent.txt).

I tried double clicking on the file, then dropping the fuile on utorrent, then opening utorrent and double clicking on a couple of the 58 individual .rar files in the Files section of utorrent.

Nothing is happening. No downloads, nothing.

RAR_Reference_BD50 is showing under "Name" at the top of utorrent.

The 2 trackers showing in utorrent that where installed in the process are showing as "disabled". They are:

udp://tracker.open**********.com:/announce
udp://tracker.publicbt.com:/announce

When installing, I didn't allow all of the extra software crapola that the installer wanted to put in, but rather did a custom install.

What am I missing?

You need to rename the torrent file NOT to include the .txt extension, then Utorrent will recognize the file and will start the download once you double click or open it.
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