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Official unRAID Thread




unRAID Server

Is an embedded Network Attached Storage server Operating System designed to boot from a USB Flash device and specifically designed for digital media storage:

Digital Video
Digital Music
Digital Images/Photos

Configuration flexibility:

Any combination of IDE and SATA hard drives may be used.
All the hard drives do not need to be the same size or speed.
Hard drives not being accessed may be spun down.
Can rebuild any single failed hard drive.
True Incremental Storage

Unlike other RAID systems, unRAID Server supports true incremental storage expansion. You can add capacity by adding more hard drives or by upgrading existing hard drives. This is a great way to make use of older, smaller hard drives you might have laying around.

Better Fault Tolerance

Similar to other RAID systems, unRAID Server permits reconstruction of a single failed hard drive. However in the unlikely event of multiple hard drive failures, data loss would be isloated to only those hard drives which failed. In traditional RAID systems, multiple simultaneous hard drive failure results in complete data loss.

Network Attached Storage

unRAID Server is compatible with Windows Networking. Individual data disks appear as disk shares under My Network Places. In addition, unRAID Server provides a composite view of all your storage through the use of User shares.

User shares permit you to view your storage as if it were one large file system, even though each data disk has it’s own file system. This lets you define share names such as Movies, Video, Photos, etc. whose actual contents are spread out among multiple hard drives.

USB Flash Storage Device

unRAID server is designed to be installed on, and boot from, a USB Flash Storage device. All configuration data is also kept on the Flash; the hard drives are only used to store user data.



unRAID Wiki
http://lime-technology.com/wiki/inde...le=UnRAID_Wiki


Hardware Compatibility
http://lime-technology.com/wiki/inde..._Compatibility


unRAID Forum
http://lime-technology.com/forum/

Greenleaf Prototype Builds
http://greenleaf-technology.com/blog...ypes/index.php


Recommended Builds
http://lime-technology.com/wiki/inde...mmended_Builds













My Build


After using HP MediaSmart Server with Windows Home Server v1 for the last 2 years I've decide to make the switch over to unRAID. HP MSS was a great first server. As my collection of movies has grown I've come to the conclusion that unRAID just makes more sense for my needs. I have around 330 Blu-Ray's and 150 DVD's in my HP MSS. The last couple months I've been having playback issue when it comes to Blu-Ray. After tons of troubleshooting I haven't been able to solve the problem. So my unRAID build starts now and I thought I'd make a thread for those who have been considering going the unRAID route.


After researching unRAID I've found that it doesn't take much money to build a server. I decided to just build a budget server since all I will be using it for is BD,DVD,Music storage. For those of you that want your server to do transcoding you'll have to go with a more powerful CPU.


Parts List

MB ECS| A885GM-A2 (V1.1)- $45.00

CPU: AMD Sempron 145- $39.00

CASE XCLIO| XCLIO NIGHTHAWK RT- $49.99

RAM: Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333- $15.99

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W- $34.99

SATA2 Serial ATA II PCI-Express RAID Controller Card- $11.52 x2

Hot Swap Drive Bays: Mobile Rack for 3.5 inches SATA HDD - Open Frame- $14.66 x 9

NSI LK-13813 1x4-pin Molex male to 3x4-pin Molex Female Power Cable Splitter $3.29 x 3

Total Cost- $338.30 plus taxes & shipping charges

UnRAID O/S and HDD will also add to the cost.
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post #2 of 742
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

After using HP MediaSmart Server with Windows Home Server v1 for the last 2 years I've decide to make the switch over to unRAID. HP MSS was a great first server. As my collection of movies has grown I've come to the conclusion that unRAID just makes more sense for my needs. I have around 330 Blu-Ray's and 150 DVD's in my HP MSS. The last couple months I've been having playback issue when it comes to Blu-Ray. After tons of troubleshooting I haven't been able to solve the problem. So my unRAID build starts now and I thought I'd make a thread for those who have been considering going the unRAID route.


After researching unRAID I've found that it doesn't take much money to build a server. I decide to just been a budget server since all I will be using it for is BD,DVD,Music storage. For those of you that want your server to do transcoding you'll have to go with a more powerful CPU.


Parts List

MB ECS| A885GM-A2 (V1.1)- $45.00

CPU: AMD Sempron 145- $39.00

CASE XCLIO| XCLIO NIGHTHAWK RT- $49.99

RAM: Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333- $15.99

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W- $34.99

SATA2 Serial ATA II PCI-Express RAID Controller Card- $11.52 x2

Hot Swap Drive Bays: Mobile Rack for 3.5 inches SATA HDD - Open Frame- $14.66 x 9

NSI LK-13813 1x4-pin Molex male to 3x4-pin Molex Female Power Cable Splitter $3.29 x 3

Total Cost- $338.30 plus taxes & shipping charges

UnRAID O/S and HDD will also add to the cost.

I built one last year and couldn't be happier with it.
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Looks great Chris and welcome to the unraid community. Just a couple of comments:

The ECS MB is now costing more !!! and the Sempron 145 single core which could be unlocked. Although it's not recommended because of possible errors for the second core. And ah the HDs and their prices, don't forget that the parity drive should be your biggest drive. I wished I put a 3 TB in there instead of the 2 TB I have now.

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If you can hold off a couple of weeks, the first publicly available version of Microsoft Windows 8 will be out. It has a software raid system very similar to unraid but with more options and obviously supported in and by the operating system. I have used the internal builds and it is very powerful and simple with fewer of the limitations of unraid. Anything that will currently run windows 7 will work with this build. In my testing, I have an array with 1 3TB drive, 10 2TB drives, 1 1.5TB drive and 2 1TB drives.
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I've decided to do the same thing. I'm still waiting for my HDD's to get here. I've got 2 2tb drives, and 1 external 2 tb, which I will be taking the hdd out of it to put it in the unRaid server.

This is what I've got so far:

mobo: biostar A750G M2+
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 250
cooler: Thermaltake Copper AMD RX K8 CPU Cooler
RAM: G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 1066 Dual Channel F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK
Case: AZZA Helios 910 CSAZ-910 Mid-Tower Case
PSU: ocz 600w
mobo, cpu and cooler brand new $100.00
ram new $24.00
case: $77.00 (I wanted to spend $50.00, but I ended up liking this one)

I'm building a 4 drive for right now. Once the hdds drop in prices I'll expand.
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Originally Posted by mlknez View Post

If you can hold off a couple of weeks, the first publicly available version of Microsoft Windows 8 will be out. It has a software raid system very similar to unraid but with more options and obviously supported in and by the operating system. I have used the internal builds and it is very powerful and simple with fewer of the limitations of unraid. Anything that will currently run windows 7 will work with this build. In my testing, I have an array with 1 3TB drive, 10 2TB drives, 1 1.5TB drive and 2 1TB drives.

Very interesting!!! I will test it when it comes out!! I did not read up on Win8 but I supposed it will use a new FS backward compatible to NTFS then. The hardware requirements will be much more that unraid's. What is so great about unraid is its simplicity and efficiency.
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Re: Windows 8, can you create a storage pool from externally connected eSata and USB 2.0/3.0 drives as well? I'm hoping 'yes' so I can re-use my Sans Digital storage towers from my current WHS v1 setup.
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Originally Posted by chanc View Post

Looks great Chris and welcome to the unraid community. Just a couple of comments:

The ECS MB is now costing more !!! and the Sempron 145 single core which could be unlocked. Although it's not recommended because of possible errors for the second core. And ah the HDs and their prices, don't forget that the parity drive should be your biggest drive. I wished I put a 3 TB in there instead of the 2 TB I have now.



Yea I noticed that. I got the MB just in time.

As for drives I have some left over from my WHS so i will be reusing those otherwise I would not be starting this build at this time with drive prices way up.
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Originally Posted by mlknez View Post

If you can hold off a couple of weeks, the first publicly available version of Microsoft Windows 8 will be out. It has a software raid system very similar to unraid but with more options and obviously supported in and by the operating system. I have used the internal builds and it is very powerful and simple with fewer of the limitations of unraid. Anything that will currently run windows 7 will work with this build. In my testing, I have an array with 1 3TB drive, 10 2TB drives, 1 1.5TB drive and 2 1TB drives.

I did read some articles on Windows 8. Looks like it might make for a great server. If I needed additional features I probably would of waited but I really just need storage for my movies. A W8 server build might even be a little project I try out to replace my HP MSS.

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Originally Posted by chanc View Post

Very interesting!!! I will test it when it comes out!! I did not read up on Win8 but I supposed it will use a new FS backward compatible to NTFS then. The hardware requirements will be much more that unraid's. What is so great about unraid is its simplicity and efficiency.

Yes that is exactly why I decided to go with unRAID. I was looking at other RAID systems and unRAID seemed the best fit for media storage.
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Here's some pics of the case. I wanted a case that had a mesh door to help keep dust out. For $49 can't beat this case. In the future I might add 3-in-4 cages but for now single trays will work just fine.
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I've decided to do the same thing. I'm still waiting for my HDD's to get here. I've got 2 2tb drives, and 1 external 2 tb, which I will be taking the hdd out of it to put it in the unRaid server.

This is what I've got so far:

mobo: biostar A750G M2+
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 250
cooler: Thermaltake Copper AMD RX K8 CPU Cooler
RAM: G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 1066 Dual Channel F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK
Case: AZZA Helios 910 CSAZ-910 Mid-Tower Case
PSU: ocz 600w
mobo, cpu and cooler brand new $100.00
ram new $24.00
case: $77.00 (I wanted to spend $50.00, but I ended up liking this one)

I'm building a 4 drive for right now. Once the hdds drop in prices I'll expand.

6TB of storage should definitely last you till prices come back down. I started out wanting to do a 15 drive server then went down to 12 and decided on 9. Right now I have about 6-7TB content. So 4 drives will be enough for my current collection. That leaves me with 5 drives. So 1 of course will be a Parity, 1 will be a Cache, 3 2TB data drives which gives me 6TB for future storage. At the rate I rip movies It should take me a year and half to two years to fill up 6TB. By then 3TB or 4TB drives should be affordable so I will then upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Re: Windows 8, can you create a storage pool from externally connected eSata and USB 2.0/3.0 drives as well? I'm hoping 'yes' so I can re-use my Sans Digital storage towers from my current WHS v1 setup.

Yes
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Great, thanks. Had been looking at unRAID, Synology, etc., but looks like Win8 may be my best bet.
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

After using HP MediaSmart Server with Windows Home Server v1 for the last 2 years I've decide to make the switch over to unRAID. HP MSS was a great first server. As my collection of movies has grown I've come to the conclusion that unRAID just makes more sense for my needs. I have around 330 Blu-Ray's and 150 DVD's in my HP MSS. The last couple months I've been having playback issue when it comes to Blu-Ray. After tons of troubleshooting I haven't been able to solve the problem. So my unRAID build starts now and I thought I'd make a thread for those who have been considering going the unRAID route.


After researching unRAID I've found that it doesn't take much money to build a server. I decide to just been a budget server since all I will be using it for is BD,DVD,Music storage. For those of you that want your server to do transcoding you'll have to go with a more powerful CPU.



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You don't need much to build a decent unRAID setup. I put one together last year with spare parts. It works great. Although I still use my WHS since I still have 52TB of BD ISOs in use(with duplication).(If the WHS ever dies I'll just setup a second unRAID with spare parts since I got the deal with two licenses)

The thing I did differently with my unRAID setup was using all external enclosures, since I already had several lying around that had been swapped out a couple of years ago on my WHS. So my twenty storage drives are in five external enclosures while my parity and cache drives are in the actual server case.
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

You don't need much to build a decent unRAID setup. I put one together last year with spare parts. It works great. Although I still use my WHS since I still have 52TB of BD ISOs in use(with duplication).(If the WHS ever dies I'll just setup a second unRAID with spare parts since I got the deal with two licenses)

The thing I did differently with my unRAID setup was using all external enclosures, since I already had several lying around that had been swapped out a couple of years ago on my WHS. So my twenty storage drives are in five external enclosures while my parity and cache drives are in the actual server case.

I spent way more on a MSS + 2 Sans Digital Enclosures and twice as many drives needed for WHS due to duplication. unRAID seems like a great bargain. I hope I have my setup running this week.

What kind of external enclosures are you using? I haven't asked this question yet but maybe you can answer it.. Say I fill up all my 9 drives. can I attached my USB Sans Digital Enclosures with unRAID for extended storage?
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post


I spent way more on a MSS + 2 Sans Digital Enclosures and twice as many drives needed for WHS due to duplication. unRAID seems like a great bargain. I hope I have my setup running this week.

What kind of external enclosures are you using? I haven't asked this question yet but maybe you can answer it.. Say I fill up all my 9 drives. can I attached my USB Sans Digital Enclosures with unRAID for extended storage?

I'm pretty sure the you can't use usb. Otherwise I would have thought I would have tried that for some of my enclosures. I'm using Sans Digital and Rosewill enclosures. They all look the same except for a five bay unit that I'm using with four drives.
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I'm pretty sure the you can't use usb. Otherwise I would have thought I would have tried that for some of my enclosures. I'm using Sans Digital and Rosewill enclosures. They all look the same except for a five bay unit that I'm using with four drives.

What media player are you using for playback?
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so aaron, are your unRAID external enclosures eSata?

What I like about WHS is it also supports running Sqeezebox, Boxee (for their iPad app), HDHomerun, and other useful software for streaming. Hoping I can continue to get this, better speed/performance, and efficient data protection with Windows 8.
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What media player are you using for playback?

I have several media players but the one I used the most is the popbox V8 with YAMJ.
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I have several media players but the one I used the most is the popbox V8 with YAMJ.

I have a pch a200 and a popbox v8 that should be arriving today. I currently use YAMJ on my whs.

I would like to start using Eversion. How would I install Eversion on unRAID?
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

I have a pch a200 and a popbox v8 that should be arriving today. I currently use YAMJ on my whs.

I would like to start using Eversion. How would I install Eversion on unRAID?

I do have eversion running with YAMJ. All the installation instructions are here:

http://www.dentedboxes.com/doku.php/help:install

You need to install the YAMJ applet in your V8 which comes with it. Then link the Media folder where all your movies are in your Unraid to the YAMJ application with Eversion installed per instructions above. Your unraid install will take some time to preclear the drives before the array can be functional.
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

I have a pch a200 and a popbox v8 that should be arriving today. I currently use YAMJ on my whs.

I would like to start using Eversion. How would I install Eversion on unRAID?


Nothing installs on unraid. its just like regular YAMJ except the there is FLASH code in there and not just HTML. Its that simple. its just another skin in YAMJ.

Sean
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Ok so do I just put the Eversion Yamj contents in my movie folder? On my whs I had to put it in the c drive then run the yamj installation to direct it to the folders I wanted it to scan.
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post


What media player are you using for playback?

I'm using some Boxee Boxes and a C200. I also have an Xstreamer but I rarely use it.
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

so aaron, are your unRAID external enclosures eSATA?.......

Yes, all eSATA enclosures connected to port multiplier cards.
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I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but rather than start a brand new one, I thought I'd put a related question in here.

Up to now my storage is ultra simple. I have an external HDD attached to my main PC with all of my DVD rips on it. It's only about 200 movies at this point. I'm looking to move into more of a server structure in the near future.

I'm currently upgrading my main PC, and will have my old PC fully functioning with a motherboard with 4 SATA ports, a dual core Athlon 64, 4 gigs of RAM. As I'm using the HDD from it in my new build, that's about the only thing that will be missing. (Though it will have an older 120GB HDD in there for now.) Since it's mostly up and running, will it be easy enough to turn into some kind of server? As HDD prices are still crazy, I likely can't go the UNRAID option for now, as I can't afford to get the required parity drive etc. How would you go about it for now? Windows 8 sounds intriguing, will there be some kind of beta I can try out?
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

Ok so do I just put the Eversion Yamj contents in my movie folder? On my whs I had to put it in the c drive then run the yamj installation to direct it to the folders I wanted it to scan.

I have no idea what you just said.

YAMJ is a program that you run on a PC or MAC that builds some webpages. The webpages are the GUI. Typically those web pages go on your NAS.

If you have a working YAMJ install. put eversion in the skins dir, edit the movie_jukebox.properties file to use the eversion skin. re-run YAMJ thats it.

It's all very well documented.
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Originally Posted by Irishdoom View Post

I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but rather than start a brand new one, I thought I'd put a related question in here.

Up to now my storage is ultra simple. I have an external HDD attached to my main PC with all of my DVD rips on it. It's only about 200 movies at this point. I'm looking to move into more of a server structure in the near future.

I'm currently upgrading my main PC, and will have my old PC fully functioning with a motherboard with 4 SATA ports, a dual core Athlon 64, 4 gigs of RAM. As I'm using the HDD from it in my new build, that's about the only thing that will be missing. (Though it will have an older 120GB HDD in there for now.) Since it's mostly up and running, will it be easy enough to turn into some kind of server? As HDD prices are still crazy, I likely can't go the UNRAID option for now, as I can't afford to get the required parity drive etc. How would you go about it for now? Windows 8 sounds intriguing, will there be some kind of beta I can try out?

unraid does not require parity.
post #29 of 742
I see. So you can run UNRAID without training wheels at first. I assume I could start with just a single drive and move to add a parity drive at a later date for that data protection?
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Originally Posted by Irishdoom View Post

I see. So you can run UNRAID without training wheels at first. I assume I could start with just a single drive and move to add a parity drive at a later date for that data protection?

exactly
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