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post #631 of 744
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

I believe the issue is probably with the Dune itself rather than unraid. The network browser on the Dune is quirky and many times won't show shares or folders if you try to navigate to them via the Dune's network browser. I recently ran up against this at my house. I moved and had to resetup my entire network which entailed a new router and ip addresses for my devices. The Dune would see Tower but not any shares underneath. I manually created a shortcut to my top level shares ("Media" and "Music") and was then able to create shortcuts to the folders underneath them ("TV Shows", "Movies", "Zappiti", etc.).

Good to hear the switch to v5 is going well. I've been too scared to try it but I will need to soon. I've got 14 2TB data drives in mine with a cache and a parity so I've only got 4 free bays on my 20 bay box which doesn't give me a lot of room for expansion. I'll need to start loading in 3TB drives soon...

I've been using RC11 since it came out. Haven't had any issues with it. I just upgraded my parity drive to a 3TB drive last week. I had to uninstall Simple Features though. Everything ran slower with it.

As far as the dune, I never had issues accessing my Tower, but as you said you can manually add the shares as well.
post #632 of 744
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Yes, utils >> new persmissions. Run that, then reboot your server. Also make sure Local Master is set to on.

Well GG...I finally had a chance to try this, and I'm sad to say...it didn't seem to work. I both ran the 'new permissions' script, and set the SMB local master to 'yes'. Rebooted; still no dice. Did you actually get it to work with a Dune, or just making general suggestions that have worked otherwise?

I happen to wander upon my old Zappiti shortcut. I knew it wasn't going to work, but I selected it anyway. Interesting enough, the path included 'guest@'; which lead me to believe the Dune needs a guest user...and I seem to remember something like that. But guest, with a blank password didn't work either. But I think it's something along those lines.

Trust me; after a week of pre-clearing a 3T drive, running a parity check, doing a parity-swap, running a parity re-build...then pre-clearing the old 2T drive (not to mention the 5.0 upgrade, and 1.5 unMENU along the way). I'm in no mood to do too much guessing. I'll just map to a share for now, and re-visit this later (unless someone has THE answer). wink.gif
post #633 of 744
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Well GG...I finally had a chance to try this, and I'm sad to say...it didn't seem to work. I both ran the 'new permissions' script, and set the SMB local master to 'yes'. Rebooted; still no dice. Did you actually get it to work with a Dune, or just making general suggestions that have worked otherwise?

I happen to wander upon my old Zappiti shortcut. I knew it wasn't going to work, but I selected it anyway. Interesting enough, the path included 'guest@'; which lead me to believe the Dune needs a guest user...and I seem to remember something like that. But guest, with a blank password didn't work either. But I think it's something along those lines.

Trust me; after a week of pre-clearing a 3T drive, running a parity check, doing a parity-swap, running a parity re-build...then pre-clearing the old 2T drive (not to mention the 5.0 upgrade, and 1.5 unMENU along the way). I'm in no mood to do too much guessing. I'll just map to a share for now, and re-visit this later (unless someone has THE answer). wink.gif

The only thing I can think id that you can try next is adding the your server to the Dune manually by using its IP address.

I'm at work right now, but when I get home I'll do it myself and post the steps for you. Unless, someone else can do this before me.

I'm determined to make this work. If mine works, you should be able to make it work.

DBone1026 knows how to do the adding shares via IP. So if he reads this I hope he can post the how to.
post #634 of 744
I came home, and I tried adding the IP address of my server manually, and for the life of me I can't remember how to do it eek.gif Can anyone else assist on this?
post #635 of 744
I'm noticing something else, very unusual...since my 5.0 upgrade.

Like most I'm sure, I have a lot of devices I stream to. Let's see...The Dune D1, WDTV Live, SBT, PS Audio Network Bridge, DIY music server, etc. Most appear to be fine; there's the already discussed issue with the D1. No biggie there; GG will either find a solution, or a mapped share hasn't caused any inconvenience so far (though to be fair, I haven't used it all that much since the upgrade).

But last night, I noticed something very unusual. I went to open up Foobar (latest v1.2.3) on my desktop (I don't use it much anymore, because I have a dedicated audio system in my Office now), and all my music was gone! I went into library>configure, and decided to re-link my Music share. Then I ran a re-scan, and was relieved when I started seeing titles come back. Trouble is...when I looked more closely, only like HALF of my albums showed up; and when I went into most titles, only like every other track was available (1, 3, 5, 7, 9, etc).

Then...I go back in this morning; to see if maybe things kind of "normalized" over night. Back to no music at all. Just odd; and I can't seem to put my finger on it. When unRAID 5.0 seems to work fine with this device, but not that one...is it an unRAID issue or a device issue. All I know is, everything was dialed-in and working fine before. Some times...if it ain't broke, don't fix it; right?
post #636 of 744
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

I'm noticing something else, very unusual...since my 5.0 upgrade.

Like most I'm sure, I have a lot of devices I stream to. Let's see...The Dune D1, WDTV Live, SBT, PS Audio Network Bridge, DIY music server, etc. Most appear to be fine; there's the already discussed issue with the D1. No biggie there; GG will either find a solution, or a mapped share hasn't caused any inconvenience so far (though to be fair, I haven't used it all that much since the upgrade).

But last night, I noticed something very unusual. I went to open up Foobar (latest v1.2.3) on my desktop (I don't use it much anymore, because I have a dedicated audio system in my Office now), and all my music was gone! I went into library>configure, and decided to re-link my Music share. Then I ran a re-scan, and was relieved when I started seeing titles come back. Trouble is...when I looked more closely, only like HALF of my albums showed up; and when I went into most titles, only like every other track was available (1, 3, 5, 7, 9, etc).

Then...I go back in this morning; to see if maybe things kind of "normalized" over night. Back to no music at all. Just odd; and I can't seem to put my finger on it. When unRAID 5.0 seems to work fine with this device, but not that one...is it an unRAID issue or a device issue. All I know is, everything was dialed-in and working fine before. Some times...if it ain't broke, don't fix it; right?

I installed RC12 last night and didn't have any issues. I've upgraded unraid every time there's an update without any problems. I would suggest to post on the Lime Tech forum with a system log.
post #637 of 744
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I installed RC12 last night and didn't have any issues. I've upgraded unraid every time there's an update without any problems. I would suggest to post on the Lime Tech forum with a system log.

Don't get me wrong GG; I'm not blaming unRAID. In fact, almost the opposite. The fact that some (most) stuff works just fine, makes me think it's that devices' issue; but of course, it's a chicken and egg kinda situation, right? It was fine before, so what happened?

Oh snap; just as I was about to put the finishes touches on this post...I checked Foobar again. Looks all complete now. Guess it just took a really, really long time to re-scan (my share is around 700G).

Never mind redface.gif Oh...but we do still want to get to the bottom of that Dune issue, right?
post #638 of 744
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Don't get me wrong GG; I'm not blaming unRAID. In fact, almost the opposite. The fact that some (most) stuff works just fine, makes me think it's that devices' issue; but of course, it's a chicken and egg kinda situation, right? It was fine before, so what happened?

Oh snap; just as I was about to put the finishes touches on this post...I checked Foobar again. Looks all complete now. Guess it just took a really, really long time to re-scan (my share is around 700G).

Never mind redface.gif Oh...but we do still want to get to the bottom of that Dune issue, right?

Yeah, I don't understand why you have issues with shares + Dune. I had similar issues like you, but that was when I was using Win 7 PC + Dune. What are you SMB setting for UnRaid?
post #639 of 744
Link aggregation is only useful if you have to do data transfers > 1 Gb between two devices/end points. Your ethernet switch would have to support it as well. If you are streaming blueray to multiple devices and experiencing delays or macro-blocking that you suspect is due to network delay I would run the linux netstat cmd on the unRaid server to see if there is packet re-transmission.

You should be able to run Linux ifconfig and enable the second NIC with it's own unique IP address. Create physical "sub-nets" in your house by using 2 separate 4 port ethernet switches, and distribute your "player" devices to one of the two separate 10base-T wire networks, each with connection to one and only one NIC on the unRaid server..

There are some low-end "managed routers" in the 200-250 $ range that will let you set up VLANs. This will allow you to set up "logical sub-nets". You will be limited to 1 Gb traffic limits on a physical link, but you can define a QoS (quality of service) for each VLAN. I have a separate VLAN that connects my unRaid server to the main "theater" projector, which is assigned half of the 1Gb bandwidth. Then if there is competing traffic, I don't see any impact.
post #640 of 744
So, this is how my server looks like now:

post #641 of 744
Looking good there Gus!
post #642 of 744
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

Looking good there Gus!

Thanks. I am starting to buy 3TB drives now. I am hoping for the 4TB prices to come down a little bit more so I can buy a two of them.
post #643 of 744
Has anyone used an HP ProLiant G7 N54L Ultra Micro Tower Server for unRAID? Yesterday Newegg had a special with this and a Sans Digital TR4M four bay enclosure for around $280 after rebates($380 before) So I figured I would pick it up and set up a third unRAID which will replace my WHS. I can use some of the external enclosures from my WHS with this. It has one port multiplier eSata port plus space for five internal hard drives. I just need to get a port multiplier eSata card so I can connect four more 4 bay enclosures. If I use most of the 2TB drives from my WHS I can set up a 48TB unRAID since I see that unRAID 5.0 can handle 24 drives. Or is one of those drives the parity drive? So with a cache drive can I have 25 drives with unRAID v5.0 rc12?
post #644 of 744
This thread has been very informative and intriguing. I do have a question though on the hardware for the server itself. If you are using a Single Core AMD 145 for example on say the Biostar MoBo that is listed on the unRAID wiki how does it actually do with transcoding when needed for example with the Serviio Plugin? One of the main reason I am looking to move to unRAID is for using Serviio as it is a great media streamer server. I have many different types of devices and for one reason or another with my current Win 7 machine I am using as a NAS server it is getting hammered during transcoding so badly that I have buffering, stuttering, or not even being able to stream on some of the devices. The PC itself is a Dell 531 which has a Sempron 2.6 CPU and I have it loaded with 8GB of RAM. Now from my understanding unRAID is more RAM intensive rather than CPU, but I am still concerned. The ket to all of this is that 98% of my media files are 1080p mkv containers hence the reason on many of my devices for on-the-fly transcoding to their specific device profiles. This is what I was looking to do for a build for unRAID:

Case:

http://www.amazon.com/NORCO-Rack-Mount-Server-Chassis/dp/B001NOA2B4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370228426&sr=1-1&keywords=NORCO+RPC-470

PSU:

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Watt-CX500/dp/B0092ML0MY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370229587&sr=8-2&keywords=CORSAIR+Builder+Series+CX430

CPU:

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Sempron-145-Processor-SDX145HBGMBOX/dp/B0040BPHJO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370228854&sr=1-1&keywords=AMD+Sempron+145+Sargas+2.8GHz+Socket+AM3

Mobo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-a760g-m2-socket-am2-am3-matx-desktop-motherboard-/360668224670?pt=Motherboards&hash=item53f9805c9e

Memory:

Already have 8GB of PC800 which is more than enough

Drives:

Currently have 8 drives totaling 10TB + 1 2TB Cache Drive + 1 2TB Parity Drive

OS:

http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/ (Pro License $119)

Serviio Media Streaming Server Plugin:

http://www.serviio.org/ (Pro Version $25)



Estimated Cost: $360



My list of client devices would be:

3 HP DV7 Laptops (wired or wifi)
1 WDTV Live Plus (wired)
1 Asus TF700 Tablet (wifi)
1 Xtreamer Pro (wired)
2 Vizio Smart TVs (wired)
1 Samsung Galaxy S4 (wifi)
1 iPhone 5 (wifi)
1 Droid 3 (wifi)
1 iPhone 4S (wifi)

I actually have a 48 port gigabit switch in the house and have every room wired. I try to avoid wifi as much as humanly and womanly (the ladies hate using wires) possible. I am currently working on an actual master closet in the house with a full 19" rack that centralizes network, LAN, WAN, cable, satellite, and security system. As a side note I am totally perplexing Time Warner Cable as I am doing this progress because nobody in my area has done what I am doing. I have also been told that I am in the top 3 people in New England for consumer bandwidth consumption averaging close to 300GB per month. After I get the media server squared away I will be working on an ESXi Server to have roughly 15 VMs running 24x7.

So after my lengthy post can someone shed light on using unRAID with lower end mobo/cpu combo tethered to Serviio or one of the other media streaming plugins? And yes, from time to time I may be accessing this server via the WAN while on travel as I travel about 50% for my career. Thanks in advance and I apologize if I should have placed this question elsewhere. I am new to the avsforum ecosystem. It just seems to make sense to ask here for me. smile.gif
post #645 of 744
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Has anyone used an HP ProLiant G7 N54L Ultra Micro Tower Server for unRAID? Yesterday Newegg had a special with this and a Sans Digital TR4M four bay enclosure for around $280 after rebates($380 before) So I figured I would pick it up and set up a third unRAID which will replace my WHS. I can use some of the external enclosures from my WHS with this. It has one port multiplier eSata port plus space for five internal hard drives. I just need to get a port multiplier eSata card so I can connect four more 4 bay enclosures. If I use most of the 2TB drives from my WHS I can set up a 48TB unRAID since I see that unRAID 5.0 can handle 24 drives. Or is one of those drives the parity drive? So with a cache drive can I have 25 drives with unRAID v5.0 rc12?


With the pro license you can have 1 parity drive, 1 cache drive and 23 data drives.
post #646 of 744
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Originally Posted by fnkngrv View Post

This thread has been very informative and intriguing. I do have a question though on the hardware for the server itself. If you are using a Single Core AMD 145 for example on say the Biostar MoBo that is listed on the unRAID wiki how does it actually do with transcoding when needed for example with the Serviio Plugin? One of the main reason I am looking to move to unRAID is for using Serviio as it is a great media streamer server. I have many different types of devices and for one reason or another with my current Win 7 machine I am using as a NAS server it is getting hammered during transcoding so badly that I have buffering, stuttering, or not even being able to stream on some of the devices. The PC itself is a Dell 531 which has a Sempron 2.6 CPU and I have it loaded with 8GB of RAM. Now from my understanding unRAID is more RAM intensive rather than CPU, but I am still concerned. The ket to all of this is that 98% of my media files are 1080p mkv containers hence the reason on many of my devices for on-the-fly transcoding to their specific device profiles. This is what I was looking to do for a build for unRAID:

Case:

http://www.amazon.com/NORCO-Rack-Mount-Server-Chassis/dp/B001NOA2B4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370228426&sr=1-1&keywords=NORCO+RPC-470

PSU:

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Watt-CX500/dp/B0092ML0MY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370229587&sr=8-2&keywords=CORSAIR+Builder+Series+CX430

CPU:

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Sempron-145-Processor-SDX145HBGMBOX/dp/B0040BPHJO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370228854&sr=1-1&keywords=AMD+Sempron+145+Sargas+2.8GHz+Socket+AM3

Mobo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-a760g-m2-socket-am2-am3-matx-desktop-motherboard-/360668224670?pt=Motherboards&hash=item53f9805c9e

Memory:

Already have 8GB of PC800 which is more than enough

Drives:

Currently have 8 drives totaling 10TB + 1 2TB Cache Drive + 1 2TB Parity Drive

OS:

http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server/ (Pro License $119)

Serviio Media Streaming Server Plugin:

http://www.serviio.org/ (Pro Version $25)



Estimated Cost: $360



My list of client devices would be:

3 HP DV7 Laptops (wired or wifi)
1 WDTV Live Plus (wired)
1 Asus TF700 Tablet (wifi)
1 Xtreamer Pro (wired)
2 Vizio Smart TVs (wired)
1 Samsung Galaxy S4 (wifi)
1 iPhone 5 (wifi)
1 Droid 3 (wifi)
1 iPhone 4S (wifi)

I actually have a 48 port gigabit switch in the house and have every room wired. I try to avoid wifi as much as humanly and womanly (the ladies hate using wires) possible. I am currently working on an actual master closet in the house with a full 19" rack that centralizes network, LAN, WAN, cable, satellite, and security system. As a side note I am totally perplexing Time Warner Cable as I am doing this progress because nobody in my area has done what I am doing. I have also been told that I am in the top 3 people in New England for consumer bandwidth consumption averaging close to 300GB per month. After I get the media server squared away I will be working on an ESXi Server to have roughly 15 VMs running 24x7.

So after my lengthy post can someone shed light on using unRAID with lower end mobo/cpu combo tethered to Serviio or one of the other media streaming plugins? And yes, from time to time I may be accessing this server via the WAN while on travel as I travel about 50% for my career. Thanks in advance and I apologize if I should have placed this question elsewhere. I am new to the avsforum ecosystem. It just seems to make sense to ask here for me. smile.gif

You will need a more powerful CPU for transcoding. With a single core CPU, you might be able to transcode to one location. I've got a dual core CPU, and I can stream and transcode to one IPad with BD movies. However, with DVD movies, I can transcode to two locations.

So, for transcoding you might have to go with a i5 or triple/quad core AMD.

I've got that same mobo, with a dual core AMD, and 4GB of ram. I also do not use the onboard network card. I got a PCI intel card. If I had to do it all over again, I would go with a Supermicro mobo and i3 or i5 CPU.
post #647 of 744
^ That is great info to know and get the confirmation on. This would also explain why my current setup pukes so badly so often. I picked the PC itself up from my niece for 25 bucks so can't really complain too much as I knew it was a bandaid fix last year when I needed to do something. I used to hang 3 drives off my Xtreamer Pro as well as the 2 internal drives, but the mrs was tired of all the drive lights and then power bricks being there in the entertainment center. As for the the mobo route perhaps I need to figure something out different as well. I do have a PCI 1000/100/10 card already so the onboard NIC isn't super important, but would be helpful. I wasn't able to find the bulk of the boards on the hardware compatibility list available anymore. It doesn't seem like they are keeping it up to date. When I tried searching for a lot of them the prices on the boards were very high because they are not anywhere close to current gen anymore and I really don't feel like throwing 150+ bucks down on the board if I don't need to. I guess I will need to dig deeper in the threads here to see what folks are using successfully.
post #648 of 744
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Originally Posted by fnkngrv View Post

^ That is great info to know and get the confirmation on. This would also explain why my current setup pukes so badly so often. I picked the PC itself up from my niece for 25 bucks so can't really complain too much as I knew it was a bandaid fix last year when I needed to do something. I used to hang 3 drives off my Xtreamer Pro as well as the 2 internal drives, but the mrs was tired of all the drive lights and then power bricks being there in the entertainment center. As for the the mobo route perhaps I need to figure something out different as well. I do have a PCI 1000/100/10 card already so the onboard NIC isn't super important, but would be helpful. I wasn't able to find the bulk of the boards on the hardware compatibility list available anymore. It doesn't seem like they are keeping it up to date. When I tried searching for a lot of them the prices on the boards were very high because they are not anywhere close to current gen anymore and I really don't feel like throwing 150+ bucks down on the board if I don't need to. I guess I will need to dig deeper in the threads here to see what folks are using successfully.

You can use a triple or quad core AMD CPU with that mobo. Remember the more powerful CPUs use more electricity. That's probably one of the best mobos to use for unraid. There are many intel based mobo on newegg.com for $60 dollars or less. However, you will have to spend a little more for the intel CPU. Intel CPU use less electricity than AMD.
post #649 of 744
5.0-rc13 is out. This release should become final "in a matter of days". biggrin.gif
post #650 of 744
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Originally Posted by BarracudaDelGato View Post

5.0-rc13 is out. This release should become final "in a matter of days". biggrin.gif

Thanks. I guess I'll install rc13 in my second unRAID setup tonight.
post #651 of 744
Not really sure why this thread is seemingly dead, but hopefully someone will be able to help me.

I've had my unRAID setup going for awhile now and have always had an issue with network speed which I'm hoping to finally solve. I have the unRAID going to a Dune Smart H1. I can play BD Lite without any issues (which has been satisfactory for months, but getting tired of dealing with subs), but when I try to play as Blu Ray, I can't get more than about 20 seconds into a movie without it stuttering. I have tried playing ISOs directly from the Dune spare drive and from other PCs on the network and don't run into this problem.

Mobo: ASRock 880GM-LE FX (Realtek 8111DL chipset)
Switch: ASUS GX-D1081 Switch
Cat 5e cables all around

Now, I don't have much experience networking other than connecting cables here and there, so hopefully this is just an easy fix that some simple instructions will help solve.
post #652 of 744
What version of unraid are you using.
post #653 of 744
5.0-rc8a
post #654 of 744
I know the latest RC version has different network drivers. I'm not sure if its better or not. I had issues with my on board Ethernet card. I ended up buying an Intel Pro PCI card that works much better. I don't have any ISOs anymore, but I used to have Star Wars in ISO with full menus and I didn't have any issues with streaming. Network issues are difficult to fix.
post #655 of 744
I'm running rc16c on my three unRAID setups. I have zero issues with any stuttering playing back my 2D and 3D BD ISOs on my media players.

The rc16c version is supposed to be basically the final version.Although I think they are doing some minor tweaks before the final version.
post #656 of 744
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I'm running rc16c on my three unRAID setups. I have zero issues with any stuttering playing back my 2D and 3D BD ISOs on my media players.

The rc16c version is supposed to be basically the final version.Although I think they are doing some minor tweaks before the final version.

That's what it appears to be that the Final is finally coming!
post #657 of 744
Upgraded to 16c and it's still stuttering. Sounds like a network card would be my next step? Are there any recommendations?
post #658 of 744
It depends on what your mobo can support. I recommend Intel Network cards. I've got a Intel Pro 1000 GT PCI NIC. This one to be exact http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106121. If your mobo support PCIe you can use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106033

How is your Dune and server connected? Are you using switches at all?
post #659 of 744
I've run PCIe x1 realtek and intel cards in one of my unRAID setups and saw no difference in speeds(rc16 build). In the end I went back to using the Motherboard Ethernet port.
post #660 of 744
I've simplified my network in an attempt to figure out why it's lagging. The current setup is:

Modem to the router
router to the desktop PC and switch
switch to the unRAID machine and Dune


Router: TP-Link TL-WR1043ND
Switch: Asus GX-D1081

Ping statistics from the desktop to unRAID: Min = 0ms, Max = 1ms, Avg = 0ms
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