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post #211 of 225
2/8/12 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by hphase View Post

The NFL, NBC, or heck, even MIA can sue whoever they want (and they just might) but that doesn't change the FCC rule. These types of obscenity "fines" are handed out by the FCC to broadcast stations. Nobody else.

Yes, that is true but the contract MIA signed said she will be the one to pay it for them. Obviously the FCC will not fine her directly.
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post #212 of 225
2/8/12 at 9:27am
Nothing is "obvious" in government or the legal system.

But, holding the person who actually commited the "obscenity" accountable for their actions? What a concept!

BTW, if MIA was singing from a track (and the common understanding was that she did) didn't anybody listen to the track and think there was a problem?

I heard Madge is "furious" at MIA for pulling the stunt. It took the focus of the evening off of her. No doubt MIA got more publicity for this than she ever would have gotten otherwise.
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post #213 of 225
2/8/12 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by hphase View Post

But, holding the person who actually commited the "obscenity" accountable for their actions? What a concept!

Ah, but this would require authorizing legislation that satisfies the First Amendment and creates an enforcement mechanism, which would never, ever survive court scrutiny.

There's a reason that FCC fines for indecency make no sense: they are basically unconstitutional. The FCC and "family values" organizations have just managed to find the barest sliver of legal authority that they need to prop up this ridiculous system, and because of commitment to court precedent (and the Court's systemic inability to recognize the changing technological landscape) it persists. Given the court's rationale for upholding this system, however, if someone today was able to effectively articulate to the Supreme Court the state of the television landscape, the FCC would be stripped of this power.

Perhaps the MIA case will result in the litigation that finally ends this.
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post #214 of 225
2/8/12 at 10:07am
Anyone else here remember Howard Stern and his battles with the FCC?
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post #215 of 225
2/8/12 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

Ah, but this would require authorizing legislation that satisfies the First Amendment and creates an enforcement mechanism, which would never, ever survive court scrutiny.

There's a reason that FCC fines for indecency make no sense: they are basically unconstitutional. The FCC and "family values" organizations have just managed to find the barest sliver of legal authority that they need to prop up this ridiculous system, and because of commitment to court precedent (and the Court's systemic inability to recognize the changing technological landscape) it persists. Given the court's rationale for upholding this system, however, if someone today was able to effectively articulate to the Supreme Court the state of the television landscape, the FCC would be stripped of this power.

Perhaps the MIA case will result in the litigation that finally ends this.

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Anyone else here remember Howard Stern and his battles with the FCC?

Let's not go even farther off topic...
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post #216 of 225
2/8/12 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by Gmichael2 View Post

Think of all the people who knew nothing about M.I.A. last week but know who she is now. It could end up making her more than the fine in the long run. Time will tell.

This is me

Then again, I do not listen to main stream music or the radio. I only listen to local rappers that live -8 miles away from me, that do not get radio play. I'm sheltered, I need to expand my musical interests. Ha
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post #217 of 225
2/8/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by vespaguy View Post

...Far, far more entertaining however has been this thread. From conspiracy theories over whether or not it was actually prerecorded, to not understanding the difference between objective and subjective, this thread has been a far bigger train wreck than Madonnas missed cues. Bravo!

Yeah no joke!
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post #218 of 225
2/8/12 at 11:19am
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post #219 of 225
2/8/12 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by rich3fan View Post

It was a halftime show. Not a concert. And the audience was there to see a football game anyway right?

Next year... hire a DJ! And keep the dancers!
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post #220 of 225
2/8/12 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by hphase View Post

The NFL, NBC, or heck, even MIA can sue whoever they want (and they just might) but that doesn't change the FCC rule. These types of obscenity "fines" are handed out by the FCC to broadcast stations. Nobody else.

Only broadcast stations are licensed by the FCC and subject to a "Notice of Apparent Liability," as these things are known. CBS got included in the mess only because they own broadcast stations that broadcast the program, not because they were the network that distributed the program.

I think the whole thing is a bit hypocritical. The networks are increasing profanity on their shows and news every year, even encouraging it, and selectively including bits for the sole reason that an obsenity was shouted. Most of the time you can make out the obscenity.

So it's ok for Steven Tyler to be obnoxious and swear a dozen times during each family-hour broadcast of American Idol broadcast; yet, a big deal is made over an extended figure at a musical half-time show? So obscenity is perfectly Ok as long as you hit the bleep button in time (and still can read lip read the word), but watch out if you don't blur out the end of a finger? Huh? Last night Leno had a "Dealing with the public" segment, where a caller dropped 4 f**k's within 30 seconds. And there was no doubt they were 4 f**ck's behind the grating bleeps because Leno had the 4 f**cks captioned.
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post #221 of 225
2/8/12 at 8:55pm
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Let's not go even farther off topic...

Yeah, that was back in a more innocent time. Stern would look like a saint compared to today's shows; e.g., American Idol. Stern actually admonished his guests not to swear; today it is actually encouraged.
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post #222 of 225
1/29/13 at 6:34pm
So was I. Superbowl XXI, Santa Ana Winds. Were you with them?
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post #223 of 225
1/29/13 at 7:01pm
So who's up for halftime this year?

Beyonce and who else?
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post #224 of 225
1/30/13 at 8:06am
Think Beyonce's gonna lip-sync her performance at this event too? wink.gif
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post #225 of 225
2/1/13 at 11:09am
She can come lip sync at my house anytime....
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