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post #331 of 397
I'm still of the opinion that the entire 'Bombshell" story line could be dropped like a hot potato and the show would be immensely improved. The drama between Eileen and her husband was always forced and cartoonishly soapish, I don't care at all about the writer and composer characters, and I'm bored with seeing endless variations of dance numbers about Monroe without seeing the actual, you know, dialog and acting performances that tell her story in between dance numbers. The only reason to go back to Bombshell now is to see Hilty, and frankly, Liaisons was probably a more entertaining venue for doing that.

In fact, aside from Hilty, McPhee, and Jack Davenport, I wouldn't be watching this show anymore. But obviously the two women are a spectacular draw, and I've been a fan of Davenport since 'Coupling'.
post #332 of 397
Watched this week's Smash episode and, once again, loved it. I thought the scenes between Ivy (Megan Hilty) and Bernadette Peters as Ivy's mother were affecting. Both are fine actresses and can really sing. I confess, they made me cry.

Jimmy continues to make me crazy. Just as I am about to believe that he has turned the corner and grownup a bit, he does something else stupid.

I enjoyed Dylan Baker as Karen's father. I have enjoyed him in everything I have seen. It's no surprise that, like so many other Smash guest stars, he is a Broadway guy and a Tony Award nominee.

Despite how soapy Smash often is, it keeps me engaged with great Broadway music and dancing, and mostly terrific performances.
post #333 of 397
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I'm still of the opinion that the entire 'Bombshell" story line could be dropped like a hot potato and the show would be immensely improved.

For me, Bombshell is the only storyline I'm really interested in. Basically because I'd like to see more of the musical itself, and more Megan Hilty as MM.
post #334 of 397
Loved Bernadette Peters in her role. Made tears come to my eyes too. She is the real deal. Always has been.

The song by Jimmy's sister and the staging were terrific, but the incredibly poor lip-synching killed it for me. Was the actress the singer behind the sound? Obviously you can't sing and flip around on veils at the same time, but c'mon.
Edited by Distorted - 4/4/13 at 10:56am
post #335 of 397
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For me, Bombshell is the only storyline I'm really interested in. Basically because I'd like to see more of the musical itself, and more Megan Hilty as MM.

I guess you already figured out that I like the Bombshell storyline too. As noted in my earlier post, the scene from Bombshell, between Marilyn (Hilty) and her mother (Peters), really moved me.
post #336 of 397
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Loved Bernadette Peters in her role. Made tears come to my eyes too. She is the real deal. Always has been.

The song by Jimmy's sister and the staging were terrific, but the incredibly poor lip-synching killed it for me. Was the actress the singer behind the sound? Obviously you can't sing and flip around on veils at the same time, but c'mon.

The Swing Song was definitely being song by Krysta Rodriguez, the actress who plays Ana. Rodriguez is a seasoned Broadway musical theater performer. She sings extremely well.
post #337 of 397
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I could be wrong of course, but I am under the assumption that all of the songs on the show are lip-synced, and usually done seamlessly. That number, which otherwise was spectacular, was an aboration. Too bad. The production with the Cirque du Soliel acts must have taken a bunch of planning and effort. The idea of patrons about to have the performers fall in the middle of their tables is intriguing, if not a bit ridiculous.
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post #338 of 397
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I could be wrong of course, but I am under the assumption that all of the songs on the show are lip-synced, and usually done seamlessly. That number, which otherwise was spectacular, was an aboration. Too bad. The production with the Cirque du Soliel acts must have taken a bunch of planning and effort. The idea of patrons about to have the performers fall in the middle of their tables is intriguing, if not a bit ridiculous.

So far as I know, all the show's talent does their own singing and most are Broadway musical theater veterans. As is the case with almost filmed musical performance, the audio of every song is looped onto the filmed performance because, generally speaking, doing it that way is thought to make for better sound. A notable exception was Les Miserables. The show's director, Tom Hooper, chose to make his actor's "live" performances, recorded as part of the scene being shot, the version the audience heard. I thought it mostly worked there. Maybe more directors should try it.
post #339 of 397
DON'T FORGET!

A new episode airs tonight - Saturday, April 6 - at 9pm ET/PT.
post #340 of 397

Bernadette Peters and Megan Hilty doing that mother/daughter song was about as touching and heartfelt as it gets.  Personally, though I love Peters, I thought her acting was a bit obvious and less believable in the first half of the episode and would prefer to think (hope) that it was mistakenly written that way.  But she sure brought it home in the end!  Jimmy is borderline annoying to watch, though talented.  But my oh my, flat acting or not, does the camera love to linger on McPhee!!  And here's hoping that they swing back more heavily to Bombshell and less to the new show.

post #341 of 397
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Bernadette Peters and Megan Hilty doing that mother/daughter song was about as touching and heartfelt as it gets.  Personally, though I love Peters, I thought her acting was a bit obvious and less believable in the first half of the episode and would prefer to think (hope) that it was mistakenly written that way.  But she sure brought it home in the end!  Jimmy is borderline annoying to watch, though talented.  But my oh my, flat acting or not, does the camera love to linger on McPhee!!  And here's hoping that they swing back more heavily to Bombshell and less to the new show.

I was mildly disappointed by this week's Bombshell, too little singing and dancing and too much soap. I did think, though that the production number early in the show, Original, was very well done. The dancer who played the new girl in town could really dance and the choreography was so good, it made me believe that McPhee could dance. As usual, McPhee sang like a bird and looked like an angel.
post #342 of 397
Could this show ever generate a real Broadway "Bombshell?"
post #343 of 397
Yep...waaaaayyyyy too much soap last night. I think I got that cavity. Also, I'm sorry, but I find Eileen's appearance slightly disgusting and the way they keep introducing senior romance subplots triggers my gag reflex. Being a senior something myself notwithstanding.
post #344 of 397
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Yep...waaaaayyyyy too much soap last night. I think I got that cavity. Also, I'm sorry, but I find Eileen's appearance slightly disgusting and the way they keep introducing senior romance subplots triggers my gag reflex. Being a senior something myself notwithstanding.

Agreed. As much as I have always admired Angelica Huston's talent and beauty, I confess that she is looking pretty old these days, even by my decidedly senior citizen standards. Alas, it's been a long time since her sensational performance in The Grifters. I can't imagine that a smooth good looking guy like The New York Times' theater critic could find Eileen all that appealing. Of course, considering all the other aspects of the show that require a lot of willingness to suspend disbelief, maybe the Eileen-Times critic romance isn't as far fetched as some of the other stuff we have to deal with in Smash.smile.gif

CAVEAT: Despite the snideness of the foregoing, I still mostly love the show and an looking forward to the rest of the season.
post #345 of 397
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Agreed. As much as I have always admired Angelica Huston's talent and beauty, I confess that she is looking pretty old these days, even by my decidedly senior citizen standards. Alas, it's been a long time since her sensational performance in The Grifters. I can't imagine that a smooth good looking guy like The New York Times' theater critic could find Eileen all that appealing. Of course, considering all the other aspects of the show that require a lot of willingness to suspend disbelief, maybe the Eileen-Times critic romance isn't as far fetched as some of the other stuff we have to deal with in Smash.smile.gif

CAVEAT: Despite the snideness of the foregoing, I still mostly love the show and an looking forward to the rest of the season.

I wish they could at lest give her something better than princess valiant haircut!
post #346 of 397
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I wish they could at lest give her something better than princess valiant haircut!

After bashing Anjelica Huston's looks in my last post, let me say something good here. Although she is in late middle age, she has clearly taken care of herself but has avoided both plastic surgery and starving herself into heroin chic gauntness. Huston's values seem to be in the right place and she still is a wonderful actress. The hairdo, though, is pretty bad.smile.gif
post #347 of 397
The problem is some of us remember Anjelica Huston in her younger days. She always had a kind of "mannish" face with squarish, somewhat severe lines. But she looked so awesomely regal and stately and tall and thin that it all worked to make her beautiful in a kind of classical way. Now, those same former assets are working in the other direction. She never had the "natural" beauty of a Helen Mirren or Diane Lane, for example.

And, as others have said, she has the worst hairdo imaginable. My guess is they were trying for a kind of hip, urban-chic, theater-worthy look that would be appropriate for the world she lives in. Instead, it works against her. Revising her look to emphasize her remaining cosmetic assets while minimizing her age-related liabilities should have been something else they addressed between seasons. But who wants to tell Angelica Huston that she needs a makeover and maybe drop a few lbs.? Not me!
Edited by archiguy - 4/8/13 at 8:45am
post #348 of 397
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Revising her look to emphasize her remaining cosmetic assets while minimizing her age-related liabilities should have been something else they addressed between seasons. But who wants to tell Angelica Huston that she needs a makeover and maybe drop a few lbs.? Not me!

Amen, brother! I am not going to tell a 61 year old lady that she could do with losing a few pounds, even if she is an actress and once was a famous beauty. Huston's not really fat and appears to be in excellent health, so it seems to me that she is doing all right.
post #349 of 397
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Amen, brother! I am not going to tell a 61 year old lady that she could do with losing a few pounds, even if she is an actress and once was a famous beauty. Huston's not really fat and appears to be in excellent health, so it seems to me that she is doing all right.
Then I guess it's up to me...tongue.gif. In her youth, there was a hint of handsomeness if she tried hard. I've never found her attractive...striking maybe, she's got intelligent eyes. The rest is a mashup of awkward planes, a horse jaw and she probably smells funny...(oh, that was a low blow).
post #350 of 397
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Although she is in late middle age, she has clearly taken care of herself but has avoided both plastic surgery and starving herself into heroin chic gauntness. Huston's values seem to be in the right place and she still is a wonderful actress. The hairdo, though, is pretty bad.smile.gif

The hair is horrible beyond belief. It would only work on a French woman in her 20's. It's only acceptable on Houston if it turns out she was otherwise bald from chemotherapy or something. Other than than, Houston looks fine for her age. On that note, I don't know anyone who would use the term "late middle age" to describe somebody just months away from being able to collect social security checks. She's been eligible for senior discounts for half a decade already. Agree that her values are in the right place regarding her body image.
post #351 of 397

Have to agree with everyone on A. Houston.  I also find the sudden romance between Debra Messing and Jesse Martin, re-kindled or not, totally phony.  There is no chemistry between them.  I still enjoy all the musical aspects of the show, but the dramatic part has spiraled into stupid.  I read elsewhere that they wrapped filming for the season last week and that several cast members made tweets indicating they knew it was about to be canceled.

post #352 of 397
Once again, I loved Smash. This week's episode was a treat, especially Marilyn's big number in Bombshell, Don't Forget Me, and Ivy and Karen's sensational performance of That's Life. I recognize that it's a virtual certainty Smash will be cancelled at the end of this season but I will really miss it when it's gone.
post #353 of 397
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Once again, I loved Smash. This week's episode was a treat, especially Marilyn's big number in Bombshell, Don't Forget Me, and Ivy and Karen's sensational performance of That's Life. I recognize that it's a virtual certainty Smash will be cancelled at the end of this season but I will really miss it when it's gone.
The past two episodes have been excellent. It's too bad that the show is finally catching wind in its sails probably too late to save it. While Hilty's Don't Forget Me was wonderful, I still preferred McFee's. There was nothing like hearing and seeing it for the first time with just Marilyn on stage alone. The duet between the leading ladies was outstandng. The actress playing Daisy is Mara Davi, a brilliant stage actress with an amazing voice. She was in the last revival of A Chorus Line on Broadway and killed the high range part of Everything was Beautiful at the Ballet. Smash continues to attract a lot of very talented Broadway folks to its cast.
post #354 of 397
That's Life was truly a Smash.

How many more episodes? It seemed this one would have been a proper end.
post #355 of 397
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That's Life was truly a Smash.

How many more episodes? It seemed this one would have been a proper end.

The That's Life duet was indeed a Smash. That was the most fun I have had listening to that song since the Chairman of the Board, Frank Sinatra, himself performed it back in the day.

According to IMDb, there are 5 episodes left, with the season finale scheduled for May 25
post #356 of 397
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According to IMDb, there are 5 episodes left, with the season series finale scheduled for May 25

Fixed it for you. Sorry. frown.gif

What a shame there's no place for this show on the broadcast schedule. In related news, 'Glee' has been renewed by FOX for two more seasons. eek.gifconfused.gif
post #357 of 397
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Fixed it for you. Sorry. frown.gif

What a shame there's no place for this show on the broadcast schedule. In related news, 'Glee' has been renewed by FOX for two more seasons. eek.gifconfused.gif

Glee, renewed? For two more seasons? While Smash will almost certainly be cancelled? Sorry, but I can't contemplate this further, for this way lies madness.smile.gif
post #358 of 397
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Glee, renewed? For two more seasons? While Smash will almost certainly be cancelled? Sorry, but I can't contemplate this further, for this way lies madness.smile.gif

Madness might be a bit extreme... but sadness, for sure. wink.gif
post #359 of 397
I am weary of the petulant composer. I am weary of Marilyn, Marilyn, Marilyn. I am weary of Julia and Tom and their constant worry they are being betrayed by each other.

That said, I still find the creation of the theatrical ambiance of the NYC scene to be pretty interesting. But this show just seems to have too many cooks spoiling the broth, like what happens to so many NBC shows.

And Glee? I gave up on that last year. Obviously someone still watches it, but how can they bear it?
post #360 of 397
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I am weary of the petulant composer. I am weary of Marilyn, Marilyn, Marilyn. I am weary of Julia and Tom and their constant worry they are being betrayed by each other.

Me too. Which I guess is why there are 3 unwatched episodes of Smash left on my DVR that I just can't bring myself to sit through. At some point, I'll probably fast forward them to watch the dance numbers, but knowing this show is doomed, and being very, very tired of the melodrama, I just can't bring myself to watch the story anymore.

I used to work in musical theater, and i have to say, pushing scenery on and off stage in between acts was more interesting than half the soap opera storylines this show keeps dwelling on. It's a shame. It could have been much better.
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