Subwoofer for Soundbar

This is a continuation of my thread in the Soundbar section.

To quote some of what I said in my soundbar based post,


The room this subwoofer will be in is small (Approx 15 Feet long 11.25 Feet wide 9 Feet tall)

With this forums assistance you can help me prevent "Buyer's Remorse"

Here are some I have looked at:

-Yamaha YST-FSW150BL Advanced YST II Down-Firing Active Subwoofer
-HSU's STF-1 & VTF 1
-SVS PC12-NSD
-Epik Legend Subwoofer
-Velodyne DEQ-8R 8" Subwoofer & Impact-Mini Powered Subwoofer
-Definitive Technology ProSub 60

I have done as much research as I can, but research does nothing against experience that I don't currently have. Also just about every single subwoofer manufacture has some clever proprietary way to declare themselves "above the rest", which adds to the indecision.
Thank you for any assistance you can give. Oh... and the less money I have to spend on a subwoofer the better ( I suppose goes without saying) but I won't mind putting down the extra dollars down for Quality. As long as it is worth the cash.

24 Hours. So many views...and yet so little posts. How...disappointing, yet not unexpected. Fortunately this wasn't a total loss for one of your forums users PMed me their thoughts (or should I say recommendations), which was appreciated. When I asked this individual why the PM, they replied "To prevent a pissing contest". This only confirmed my original concerns that arose from viewing the "Special Posting Rules".

So why am I posting (with a bump no less) this here instead of "letting sleeping does lie"...well its simple, it's so that others who "Search Engine" themselves here (such as I did) will have something to go off of. Its why I posted here in the first place... I had little to nothing to go off of and was hopeful a user would be ever so kind to assist sans the usual **** & bias you will find off the net. Wishful thinking...but you don't know unless you try and all that.

It's a pity no one on here seems to know the answer at the very least to my first quote involving the Yamaha SWK-W10, but I suppose I should have expected such. In this seemingly major consumer based audiophile part of the forum I would imagine little to none of you would even consider a wireless solution, or do anything that would possibly impede that extra decibel range of pure auditory bliss.

I suppose I could go and ask a rep from the company , but I expect that I would get the same as I have received here, just more professionally. I suppose I don't have much of a choice at this point.

Why doesn't this forum have a guide to those less informed on subwoofers? You all obviously have a very good collective know how, and It would be very helpful for the masses and might even improve post quality.

As a reminder, I am looking for a sealed down-facing subwoofer that is more sound than "woomph", which can be used effectively with a Yamaha YSP-5100 (Active Soundbar) in a room that is Approx 15 Feet long 11.25 Feet wide 9 Feet tall (so it doesn't need to be overly powerful). It will be used for videogames (Speed), movies (Range), and music (Fidelity).
So with you having read that, dare you dig up the courage to at least attempt to answer my questions? I really don't care about the petty squabbles of brand loyalty that may occur here, I just want an answer/information to my questions so I can make a final decision and enjoy my games, movies, and music to the best of my ... financial ability.

If I receive a PM that as information that is pertinent, I may even just post it here under anonymity of my post. The endgame again being showing information for the masses on a question I have yet to see answered myself.
If I am to get no reply at all, then this will be my last post and bump here. No need review and give my thoughts on my final decision if no one here cares.

Eureka!

I am ecstatic for finally receiving an answer to my Yamaha SWK-W10, which now frees up some options. Had this not been answered I was going to purchase a Yamaha YST-FSW150BL Subwoofer and be done with it.
Even better, you have experience with the YSP-5100 and have given me a ball park to look for in subwoofers. Thank you thank you!

Out of curiosity, does the Yamaha SWK-W10 require to be plugged into a mono port as the instructions I have found seem to imply, or can I plug into a LFE port? /ignorance.

Any other recommendations in settings of a subwoofer in conjunction with the YSP-5100? I played with the SVS's Merlin Wizard hoping that it could give me a general ball park in settings but it came up as simply null, and I think it would be kind of odd (not to mention to require a bit of gull) to contact SVS and ask for the best settings on a possible competitors subwoofer.

I understand what I ask is subjective and can change room to room.


To be quite frank I stopped making a list of other possible subs after 5. Simple as that.

Its all pretty overwhelming to choose as it is.

I am slowly narrowing down the options here. After much thought and calculation I can put down up to $1200 dollars solid on a subwoofer, and not a penny more. That includes S & H and all that jazz. Part of me cant believe I'm willing to spend such amount, which is kinda weird if you think about it hard enough... but I digress.My main concern now is when the choosing, purchasing, and receiving finally occurs that I won't know what to do with a subwoofer sans plug it in. This is partly because I have never owned nor purchased a separate subwoofer before, since usually the Hi-fi speakers would come with one.

The more I read up about subwoofers so I can understand instead of just grasp, the more frazzled my brain becomes, it just doesn't want to understand. Probably because a lot of math seems to be involved and shown. Scary. ._.
With that said, I'm now thinking Room EQ as a huge plus. I don't want to make this...investment useless. A plan B would be nice ( or is it C). >_>
This is of course presuming that the Yamaha YSP-5100 can't do it with some subwoofers too. (Ugh.)
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I have to also mention some things based off of some PMs.

If I had the extensive cash wiggle room, I would drop it on a Paradigm subwoofer bar none. I suppose I now, before I even choose my first subwoofer have something to look forward to. It's a pity its so extremely hard to find a price to even ball park the prices for the subwoofers they sell. Fortunately I'm pretty good with a search engine, and was able to find this to ball park an idea.

The D15 Direct Servo subwoofer from Rythmik ( their only downfireing sub) is also very impressive if it really as quick as the marketing would lead one to believe, and if true I might -maybe- just get this, though I'm concerned it might be overkill for my room size. It's a pity that its priced at the very tippy top of what I have set...but so be it.
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My choices are constantly evolving with every bit of information I can gather. A read here and a video there.

Looking at Velodyne's full inventory (instead of just the "small room" selection), I have found the Optimum-8 which according to Crutchfield is (Now?) Discontinued. It's not downfireing, but its $699 (down from $999) has EQ (and abunch of other specs.). The thing is...this sucker is really big and sucks up a ton of juice. I'm not sure where I would put it.

That leaves the two mentioned contenders unless someone can put in 2 cents, press start, and select a better subwoofer for the price and need.
One has dual speakers and is pretty big so I'm not sure where I'm going to put it, but is currently going for $499 Introductory price. Plus shipping bumps it up to $550+.

The other is a differentish ( It has to be a word! I just made it up! XD) speaker that I'll be able to put pretty much anywhere. It costs $749 but costs about $795 after everything goes through.

And this is why I do my best to stay away from candy stores of wide selections. /fatass :P

It's a pity I missed that deal with the outlaw subwoofer. Anywho... thank you for letting me know about the Antimode 8033 EQ, I will look into it. Got anything else connected to the Yamaha YSP-5100 that I should know about? :P /rhetorical


Then I apologize for not wiping my feet before entering the forum, for I didn't think myself so audacious when all I asked for was help. Fortunately it seems capecodorthopod has forgiven me ( ^__^ THANK YOU!) so hopefully you (all?) will too.
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At this point the final choosing points are simply what the size of unit is (the place I want to put it is 27 inches high X Doesn't matter X 18 inches deep maximum) and weather I will be able to make sure it will not destroy the house when I turn it on. It looks like Rythmik's Downfireing Subwoofer (the D15 Direct Servo Sub SE) might get this. Pity it doesn't come in a wood finish, but wa ev.

Edit Update: Three Days ago purchased Rythmik's Downfireing D15 Direct Servo Sub SE before the price increase. Thank You all both Public & Private users who assisted me in my search.

Today I received the above mentioned sub-woofer "Rythmik's Downfireing D15 Direct Servo Sub SE", and while I knew that pro subs were big...WOW, the measurements just don't do justice till you see it in person. I hope I didn't overdo it O_o. Here's the thing though, just as some reviews have mentioned the Rythmik sheet that is supposed to help is basically in gibberish for the uninitiated new-to-pro-subs crowds ( I.E yours truly).

To be embarrassingly frank, I'm having trouble with understanding the abilitys of the full impact "Off-On"/"On-Auto"/"Off" switch which you know means my comprehension of the "quick guide" just goes downhill from there.

Can anyone assist me in helping me properly set up, or at least better comprehend, the Rythmik sub woofer and its settings for my room size? (Approx 15 Feet long 11.25 Feet wide 9 Feet tall)

I have never owned a high quality sub woofer before (unless you consider BOSE hideaway acoustimass subwoofer high quality). PEQ off. Volume Low (10 Clicks from absolute min). LFE Connection. YSP-5100 "IntelliBeam" ... The movie Ironman 2.

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Presuming I have calibrated correctly...I think I over did it. I'm pretty sure I could feel the bass in my gut, my toes, and the whole house in general. If this was in a stone entombed room with sound dampeners with the next neighbor a mile or two away... this thing would most likely be a happy investment.

This is not the case. The only thing between my neighbors houses and mine is some drywall, wood, and flame retardant foam. SO!... while I think about what to do next Im going to clean up from my nosebleed and go cry in a corner for about 15 min. /s lie down for abit.

P.S. Holy ****.