2012 GRAMMYs on CBS HD! - Page 5

I think that was because Joe Walsh's guitar was cranked up and completely blew the mix. Great to see the old warhorses still let it rip, though.

And that drummer is great!

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Was that a sign of his illness? I don't know. I've seen tons of performers accepting awards not knowing where to go and having to be literally ushered off the stage! He said in an interview he doesn't have any signs off the illness yet which makes me wonder how the condition was diagnosed.

Which if any artists used lip syncing during their performances? Does the Grammys allow lip syncing? Up to the discretion of each performer?

Apparently Kanye West led the nominations with seven, and he wasn't even present. Did his name come up in the show?

Waaaaay too many commercials (40-50%). I timed program and commercial segments lengths for a while and found them to be 5-6 minutes each. Ridiculous!

Yep, nothing! The sound was definitely off and it wasn't local providers.

You'd expect the commercial load to be large. These types of live awards shows are some of the few left that people are likely to watch in real time. They're going to milk that for all it's worth.

Besides, they probably needed every minute of every network cutaway they could get to re-set the stages for the next acts.

Yeah, He and JZ won an award together and it was the embarrassing stock reply "they're not here tonight so on behalf of them we accept.." Looked like a major disrespect to the Grammys to me but I have no idea what their schedule is.

I think they got more than their share in. I started it commercial delayed (at least I thought I allowed enough time) and I easily got to live with over a half hour left. Although I was thinking it was only 3 hours.

Like you said, many need to be guided off stage .. not a sign of anything, really ..

I saw Campbell on his farewell tour .. he was visibly confused at times / hit several wrong chords and attemted to play the same song more than once .. his family, particularly his daughter, were very good at working through it .. and the audience was quite supportive as well ... I would say he is certainly showing signs, unfortunately ..

LFE isn't really needed for music. There was very little, if any LFE, the bass was all mixed in the main channels.

That would be techno artist/producer Deadmau5.

As to the Foos relation, on the deluxe edition of Wasting Light, there is a Deadmau5 remix of the first single Rope among the bonus tracks, which is what was the Foos live performance of said song morphed into at verse two of the song

Rihanna very clearly lip-synched most of her first song. Reminded me of X Factor. She pulled her mic away quite often to dance and her voice kept going.

My favorite speech of the night came from Dave Grohl. Talking about the importance of learning how to play an instrument and to sing live, flaws and all.

with fingers loosening my collar a-la Johnny, I did not know that. Thanks.

I used them to come on here!

I was simply referring to the lfe channel. Depending on how you have your system set up there can be lots of action in the sub from music. If it was indeed mixed to avoid the sub it was a very limp mix...


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Same here. Just think if the kids spent as much time learning to play guitar as they do playing simulated guitar games.

Right, the LFE channel had next to nothing in it, which is the true .1 discrete channel. If you crossover over your speakers to the subwoofer that is different and you would have bass coming from your subwoofer but still no LFE content since none existed.

I thought the mix was superb. Sure it could have had just a tad more bass, but considering all that goes into this and the fact it was live, it was great.

I had never heard of Deadmau5 until someone posted in the Grimm thread a while back that the DJ Wretched Cat character in an episode was a take off on him. Having seen both now I'd say that was definitely the case. DJ Wretched Cat would chew Deadmau5 up (and leave him on the front porch ).


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I don't know if this is the case here, but one thing to keep in mind generally is that with the exception of FOX, the local affiliate can have a HUGE impact on what you hear. I have access to a couple of different CBS affiliates for example, and I can tell you that there is gigantic and unsubtle difference between the two. One is highly limited/compressed and sounds very thin and shrill, while the other has nice dynamics, no audible AGC, and a smooth, flat sound.

Comparing the music on "Late Night with David Letterman," it amazing how the kick drum is virtually non-existent on the one affiliate -- it's like it was omitted from the mix. Both stations receive the same audio, but what happens to it after that is very different.

Certainly. I don't recall past Grammys on our CBS affilliate sounding like that but that doesn't mean it wasn't the case . It definitely popped out (or rather didn't) at me last night though.


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Our local CBS affiliate has been broadcasting 2 ch Dolby Digital (according to my receiver) on its HD feed for years. Same situation both as a former DirecTv customer & a current Comcast subscriber. AFAIK, those getting it via OTA also get 2 ch audio. They are also the last holdout in the switch to local HD news.

OTOH, pull up an HD episode of, say, Hawaii-Five-0 or HIMYM via Comcast OnDemand & your get DD 5.1. Between this & marginally better video quallity, we no longer record the 2-3 CBS shows the wife & I watch. Just give Comcast 24 hrs & the programming is available.

Since getting back into playing guitar after years of not (I played in semi-pro bands throughout the 80s/90s) and in doing so, visiting the local Guitar Center quite a bit as of late....there is no lack of teenagers bashing on actual guitars in 2012.

While the sound of an out of tune guitar thru a buzzy solid state amplifier at full volume in a music store showroom can be grating, it also puts a smile on my face knowing there are members of the next generation that are chasing their rock & roll fantasies the way I did. I know I was one of those annoying brats @ the local music store back around 1981/82, badly slaughtering Eddie Van Halen & Randy Rhoades licks..

I do agree w/ Grohl's sentiment about "real" music, however. Some have bashed his comment, considering the Foos involvement w/ the dance club section. In the defense of artists such as Deadmau5, at least the guy is actually "playing" - i.e manipulating synths, turntables, samplers, etc., live along with sequenced tracks as opposed to some pop tart lip syncing to an auto-tuned studio vocal - the latter being what I think Grohl was referring to.

what was that horrific feedback like sound during, i think, katy perrry's act. was it a screwup or intentional as once things cleared up she was way up in the air?

I had heard that he was fine when he started to play a song, but that his illness was definitely making it a challenge for him on and off the stage. Maybe it just stuck out to me since I was aware of his illness. My dad had Alzeihemers' and it's a nasty unforgiving disease.

Didn't sound or look like she was lip-synching to me. She clearly had a backing track, but her part would drop out every time she pulled away the mic.

Here's another compliment to LL Cools MC job.. They should use him every year. Great job!! The original song of "I Will Always Love You" was written and sung by Dolly Parton but Whitney sang it better.. Who was the guy with the Mickey head?

that is Deadmau5

Seriously, every time they showed her I had to call her an idiot. She couldn't close her mouth or eyes with the stupid thing on her face.


But at least she has actual talent and can sing. Nicki Minaj tries to be lady gaga but has no talent.

Bruno Mars, Adele singing and snotting in her speech, Foster The People singing Beach Boys, and Dave Grohl going HAM on his guitar at the end were my favorite parts. Oh, and Jason Aldean's mic going out during his song with Kelly Clarkson. I pray for that to happen every time I see them perform it, and it finally happened.

My least favorite (annoying yet funny) was Taylor Swift doing her impression of Kristin Wiig's impression of Taylor Swift. (Acting shocked at everything happening around her)



Also, watching a DJ stand there for 5 minutes while crappy club music plays is not fun for anyone. I can see if you're on ecstasy and you're at the actual club, but a camera on a DJ, not good TV.