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post #331 of 1942
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Originally Posted by TheDac View Post

In the mean time, I've attached the ccss files from my i1D3. I hope they're helpful.

Thanks a lot for these

John
post #332 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

Odd, here's the direct link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hcfr...p.exe/download

All the mirrors may not have uipdated when you tried.

John

Thanks John, that one worked great.

The one in your sig is still not working for me, no idea why.

Jason
post #333 of 1942
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The one in your sig is still not working for me, no idea why.

fixed now...

John
post #334 of 1942
Is there any plans about when it will support spyder 4.?
post #335 of 1942
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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

Is there any plans about when it will support spyder 4.?

3.0.1.0 (which was released yesterday) should have support for the spyder 4, I've no idea if it works though would be good to hear if it works or not, there is also a tool spyd4en for extracting the adjustment matrices for the different display types, these matrice aren't yet supported but it would be good to see if the extraction works and what the files look like.

John
post #336 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

3.0.1.0 (which was released yesterday) should have support for the spyder 4, I've no idea if it works though would be good to hear if it works or not, there is also a tool spyd4en for extracting the adjustment matrices for the different display types, these matrice aren't yet supported but it would be good to see if the extraction works and what the files look like.

John

I just downloaded the 3.0.1.0 today, and cant find any spyder in the sensor selection when starting a new mesurment. the options are.. (simulated sensor) ( DTP-94) ( HCFR sensor).

Is there somwhere else to select sensors.?
post #337 of 1942
John -

I know it's not very popular here, but one of the meters I have is a Sequel Imaging Monaco Optix (not a DTP94). It seems to work okay measuring an LCD, but it hangs HCFR when I run a measure on my plasma during the 0% measurement, regardless of the LCD or CRT setting. I have been able to use this probe successfully with previous Argyll command line versions, although I haven't tried it with the latest version.

JD
post #338 of 1942
was calibrating greyscale the other night and i had to raise the offset on my RED level to MAX. does this mean i have serious lack of RED on my pj (epson 8100)?
post #339 of 1942
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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

I just downloaded the 3.0.1.0 today, and cant find any spyder in the sensor selection when starting a new mesurment. the options are.. (simulated sensor) ( DTP-94) ( HCFR sensor).

Is there somwhere else to select sensors.?

No it should appear in that list,does the meter appear in device manager?

John
post #340 of 1942
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

John -

I know it's not very popular here, but one of the meters I have is a Sequel Imaging Monaco Optix (not a DTP94). It seems to work okay measuring an LCD, but it hangs HCFR when I run a measure on my plasma during the 0% measurement, regardless of the LCD or CRT setting. I have been able to use this probe successfully with previous Argyll command line versions, although I haven't tried it with the latest version.

JD

Can you try using the supplied spotread.exe and see if you can take a dark reading with that using a -D2 option. Send me the log either way.

John
post #341 of 1942
I ran up the new version earlier today with my i1 Display LT(after having a b*tch of a time removing the old X-Rite drivers - Windows wouldn't recognise the Argyll drivers as the latest driver).

For others having the same trouble with installing over the X-Rite drivers you have to run Windows policy editor, enable the policy that stops installation of drivers that aren't allowed by policy, then when you plug in your meter windows will abort the auto-install of the X-rite driver (even removing the x-rite drivers from the driver cache and disconnecting the internet didn't stop the auto-install initially). You then disable the policy that you just enabled and then you can manually install the Argyll drivers. More detail here: http://www.ampercent.com/stop-window...atically/5808/

HCFR seems to work fine, but unfortunately it looks like I have drift with my meter as my grayscale has red consistently & significantly high across the different IRE measures, with green & blue almost spot on. I have however just changed my bulb so was expecting to see a fairly random grayscale (unless red on new bulbs is usually higher than used bulbs), and I haven't used my meter for over a year (it has been in an airtight bag with silica & stored in the dark).

Once I work out if I have to replace my meter, I'll do further testing.
The only thing I noticed with HCFR was the occassional French spelling

John, another useful feature for HFCR for those using a HTPC would be for HFCR to automatically press the next chapter button when running thru the grayscale and colour tests. I have some VB code to do something similar that I should be able to port to C++ (even with my basic C++ skills....). This would make it much easier for HTPC users to calibrate.
post #342 of 1942
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

John -

I know it's not very popular here, but one of the meters I have is a Sequel Imaging Monaco Optix (not a DTP94). It seems to work okay measuring an LCD, but it hangs HCFR when I run a measure on my plasma during the 0% measurement, regardless of the LCD or CRT setting. I have been able to use this probe successfully with previous Argyll command line versions, although I haven't tried it with the latest version.

JD

Hmmm, this seems to be an i1d2 variant according to the code.....

The spotread output would be very handy as there have been some changes in this area. Did it work with the version 3.0.0.0 code?

John
post #343 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

Hmmm, this seems to be an i1d2 variant according to the code.....

The spotread output would be very handy as there have been some changes in this area. Did it work with the version 3.0.0.0 code?

John

I think it shows up as a Display1 in the HCFR UI, but I will check.

I had the same issue reading plasma with v3.0.0.0. I'll try it with Spotread and let you know the results.
post #344 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

No it should appear in that list,does the meter appear in device manager?

John

Im not sure what you mean with device maneger. Where is it located.?
Normal i select the meter when creating new measure, or in / Measures /Sensor/ Select.
post #345 of 1942
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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

Im not sure what you mean with device maneger. Where is it located.?

He's referring to manually updating drivers in Windows Device Manager. This link has the methods for Win7, Vista, and XP: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driver...iverupdate.htm
post #346 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

The spotread output would be very handy as there have been some changes in this area.

Okay, the problem occurred when I was using View Images (the built in generator) with my laptop hooked up to the plasma display. I just tried using DVD Manual, and the Monaco Optix works fine in that mode. Maybe there is a timing issue with the View Image generator?
post #347 of 1942
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Originally Posted by deandob View Post

HCFR seems to work fine, but unfortunately it looks like I have drift with my meter as my grayscale has red consistently & significantly high across the different IRE measures, with green & blue almost spot on. I have however just changed my bulb so was expecting to see a fairly random grayscale (unless red on new bulbs is usually higher than used bulbs), and I haven't used my meter for over a year (it has been in an airtight bag with silica & stored in the dark).

Yes projection lamps do vary and red is often the color that is the most varied, this 'push' usually fades as the lamp breaks in.

Jason
post #348 of 1942
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

He's referring to manually updating drivers in Windows Device Manager. This link has the methods for Win7, Vista, and XP: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driver...iverupdate.htm

Thanks.. The drivers are all ok.. I gues im just missing the option of selecting different meters, i have these options, (simulated sensor) ( DTP-94) ( HCFR sensor). Thats it.
post #349 of 1942
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

Okay, the problem occurred when I was using View Images (the built in generator) with my laptop hooked up to the plasma display. I just tried using DVD Manual, and the Monaco Optix works fine in that mode. Maybe there is a timing issue with the View Image generator?

Thanks for that, as you say could well be an issue with the timings.

John
post #350 of 1942
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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

Thanks.. The drivers are all ok.. I gues im just missing the option of selecting different meters, i have these options, (simulated sensor) ( DTP-94) ( HCFR sensor). Thats it.

Umm, the code looks across the usb and tries to find all the supported devices. Not appearing in the meter list means that for some reason it can't see the meter. I'll check the code again but a quick scan and it works the same as for other devices.

In device manager could you right click on the spyder 4 device, click properties, go to the details tab and select Hardware IDs from the Property combo. Then let me know what gets shown in value

Thanks

John
post #351 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

Umm, the code looks across the usb and tries to find all the supported devices. Not appearing in the meter list means that for some reason it can't see the meter. I'll check the code again but a quick scan and it works the same as for other devices.

Hi John,

Same problem here, it finds my D2 but not my i1pro, both show up in the driver list fine. I'm on winXP, previous version found both. Might be a conflict with another USB device since I get one of those "serious failure" messages, I'll keep testing.
post #352 of 1942
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post #353 of 1942
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Originally Posted by JohnAd View Post

Umm, the code looks across the usb and tries to find all the supported devices. Not appearing in the meter list means that for some reason it can't see the meter. I'll check the code again but a quick scan and it works the same as for other devices.

In device manager could you right click on the spyder 4 device, click properties, go to the details tab and select Hardware IDs from the Property combo. Then let me know what gets shown in value

Thanks

John

Port_#0001.Hub_#0004 Is this what your looking for.. Sorry if im a bit slow at this.. but im using Win 7 and in danish.. and im not sure i get it right.
But everything looks right.. Same problem with spyder 3, but it workes fine with the old HCFR.. and the spyder 4 working with the data color software no problem to. If needet i can make a screen print.
post #354 of 1942
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Yes projection lamps do vary and red is often the color that is the most varied, this 'push' usually fades as the lamp breaks in.

Jason

I ran up HCFR again last night and the software was working flawlessly (nice job John). Unfortunately after running a grayscale calibration the picture is obviously too green so I'm fairly sure the meter has drifted (this is my second Display i1 LT that has drifted after 18 months). So I'll order the new Display 3 and try that out.

The only problem I have with the software is that HCFR blacks out the HTPC screen when taking measurements using the grayscale workflow, and I can't seem to find the setting to stop it from blanking the screen. I'm sure I got this working with the old HCFR via a setting and its not a problem with porting, so I have to play with the software some more to find the right setting.

John, if I have time on the weekend I'll try to modify the code to automate the grayscale and colour workflow to "push" the next chapter button in the DVD software using the SendKeys API.
post #355 of 1942
deandob,

The Measures > Generator > Configure menu is where you can change the screen blanking behavior.

Larry
post #356 of 1942
I just returned from a business trip and finally had an opportunity to try calibrating last night. Upgrade and auto-detection of the Display 3 went very smoothly. Low light readings on my Panasonic 65ST30 were much more stable than before. Things aren't quite perfect, as some of the low light readings still jumped around a bit, but now we're talking about 5% differences rather than the wild variations I saw previously.
post #357 of 1942
Thank you Larry. Working now.

I had a few more calibration runs last night and tried a couple more options in HCFR with my Display LT. Looks good - I can't see any problems with the latest version.
post #358 of 1942
No meter detection with Spyder 4 Elite, claims wrong driver. I tried copying over the drivers from the Datacolor folder and still a no go.

John, let me know how to get you the Spyder 4 lookup tables.


* Ok, got HCFR to recognize the Spyder 4 meter (had to uninstall Datacolor software/driver) but it will not take any readings.

** Now taking readings on my laptop but not on the desktop, both are Win7/64.

Jason
post #359 of 1942
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

No meter detection with Spyder 4 Elite, claims wrong driver.

It does need the supplied drivers for all meters that don'r present themsleves as HID (which is basically the i1d3)


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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

John, let me know how to get you the Spyder 4 lookup tables.

Try opening a adminstrative command line, cd to c:\\program files\\HCFR Calibration\\Tools and try running spyd4en. With a bit of luck that will produce a bin file. If it doesn't try rnning with the -v switch and send me the output.


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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

* Ok, got HCFR to recognize the Spyder 4 meter (had to uninstall Datacolor software/driver) but it will not take any readings.

** Now taking readings on my laptop but not on the desktop, both are Win7/64.

What error do you see on the laptop?

John
post #360 of 1942
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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

Port_#0001.Hub_#0004 Is this what your looking for.. Sorry if im a bit slow at this.. but im using Win 7 and in danish.. and im not sure i get it right.

I was after the hardware ids, should look like
USB\\VID_????&PID_????&REV_????
USB\\VID_????&PID_????
where ? are numbers

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Originally Posted by Stridsvognen View Post

But everything looks right.. Same problem with spyder 3, but it workes fine with the old HCFR.. and the spyder 4 working with the data color software no problem to. If needet i can make a screen print.

Do you get any errors reported when you try and create a new calibration, for example wrong driver?

John
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