RED 4K 3D laser projector = $10K - Page 20

Originally Posted by mark haflich 

I read the article, thanks. I thought in the commercial theater distribution model, the theater share was 30% and Odemax's share 20%$. A commercial theater simply can not exist oin a 20% share, that wouldn't come close to covering fix overhead. Even 30% is questionable.
On e gets the opinion that the Redray projector is around a year away. Just a gut.

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Post #237.

Originally Posted by amt 

Exciting times for 4K. The player looks very promising. Too bad HDMI spec has lagged behind. I wonder if the latest DisplayPort spec would have been adequate for higher data-rates. Of course one would need a display to accept DisplayPort...

Originally Posted by LJG 

Has the Mirror type been released for the Red laser projector? Is it DLP, LCOS, SXRD?

Originally Posted by Highjinx 



It's LCOS, RED bought out a LCOS manufacturer. Its a quick(for LCOS) panel, 360hz I think, however with low contrast.

Originally Posted by mhafner 

Source?

Originally Posted by Joseph Clark 

That company claimed it's panels could switch at 1080 times per second (360x per RGB color, displayed sequentially, like DLP). My main concern with them, too, was the native contrast, which they listed as being in the same range as Red's laser. Perhaps there's an inherent trade-off of speed vs contrast with LCoS. That would explain why JVC can get high contrast with their implementation of LCoS, but not fast switching (i.e. 3D lousy with ghosting).

Originally Posted by Joseph Clark 

Don't jump to any conclusions about image quality until the serious reviews come in. I'm sure Red is working on the problems. They want these projectors used in professional environments. I have a wait and see attitude.

Originally Posted by mark haflich 

I am pretty sure that the contrast will be similar to the contrast one sees in a good commercial movie theater. That industry does not define contrast as an on/off number and i suspect Red will not be using on/off numbers to get into an advertising war with toy whoops lets call them home theater budget machines $(2.5K to say $8K) claiming on offs between 50,000 and 300,000.
Everything in projector and theater design is one big comrpromise and one can not have it all no matter how much the projector costs. Big light canons have low on offs Peanut whistle light output projectors can have extremely high on offs but no one wants to pay a lot for a low light output machine (say 1000 real lumen machines) and lens quality and other things suffer.
It must be so frustrating for most forum members. A tease of a $10K machine that will easily come out 2 years late at $15K and it won't be perfection. It won't have something that someone wants and there will be a bunch of I passes leaving to one the internal damanation of not finding a perfect projector or one that meets close to all the marks at a price they can afford.
Why not DLP. TI would charge a hugh premium and Red could not meet even a $15K mark.
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Originally Posted by mark haflich 

It must be so frustrating for most forum members. A tease of a $10K machine that will easily come out 2 years late at $15K and it won't be perfection. It won't have something that someone wants and there will be a bunch of I passes leaving to one the internal damanation of not finding a perfect projector or one that meets close to all the marks at a price they can afford.

Originally Posted by mark haflich 

I am pretty sure that the contrast will be similar to the contrast one sees in a good commercial movie theater. That industry does not define contrast as an on/off number and i suspect Red will not be using on/off numbers to get into an advertising war with toy whoops lets call them home theater budget machines $(2.5K to say $8K) claiming on offs between 50,000 and 300,000.
Everything in projector and theater design is one big comrpromise and one can not have it all no matter how much the projector costs. Big light canons have low on offs Peanut whistle light output projectors can have extremely high on offs but no one wants to pay a lot for a low light output machine (say 1000 real lumen machines) and lens quality and other things suffer.
It must be so frustrating for most forum members. A tease of a $10K machine that will easily come out 2 years late at $15K and it won't be perfection. It won't have something that someone wants and there will be a bunch of I passes leaving to one the internal damanation of not finding a perfect projector or one that meets close to all the marks at a price they can afford.
Why not DLP. TI would charge a hugh premium and Red could not meet even a $15K mark.
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Originally Posted by adude 


Mark, you forgot one important thing about avs forum members. Even if Red or any other manufacturer comes out with a steller 4k projector, avs members will still not be satisfied. They will find something to bitch about. Just look what is now available for less than $4k and what was available 5 to 6 years back. But the complaints are still there.

Originally Posted by jlanzy 

If you don't want the best, for the least, and want it yesterday...then you're on the wrong forum 

Originally Posted by mark haflich 

I am pretty sure that the contrast will be similar to the contrast one sees in a good commercial movie theater. That industry does not define contrast as an on/off number and i suspect.

Originally Posted by TomHuffman 

Sure it does. SMPTE RP 431-2 "D-Cinema Quality — Reference Projector and Environment" specifies a minimum of 2,000:1 for sequential contrast and 150:1 for Intra-frame (Checkerboard) contrast. Personally, I would consider double those figures as minimums for satisfying home theater performance.