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post #121 of 307
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Originally Posted by aaamerjee View Post

Hello. I purchased the Samsung PS43E470 a few weeks back. I usually use the TV to watch movies right from my laptop through an HDMI cable, since I don't have a Blu-Ray player. I have noticed that most of the picture tweaking options (that are otherwise available in component or antenna input) are not available when I am watching movies from my laptop on the TV. As a result, I don't get (or atleast I don't THINK I get) the kind of PQ most of the people here get. Any help?


leave the input label blank or rename it to bluray hddvd dvd etc

set the resolution out to the tv at 1280X720
after doing those two things you should be able to put in settings.
i use these from cnet (brightness at 45 or 43 is the only change i make)
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-573416/samsung-pn51e450-picture-settings/
post #122 of 307
Haven't tried that. I thought renaming ports was only to make it easy to identify the input signal. Didn't know it had an effect on settings. Thanks! Will give it a shot and report back!
post #123 of 307
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Originally Posted by eeee87 View Post

leave the input label blank or rename it to bluray hddvd dvd etc
set the resolution out to the tv at 1280X720
after doing those two things you should be able to put in settings.
i use these from cnet (brightness at 45 or 43 is the only change i make)
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-573416/samsung-pn51e450-picture-settings/

Your solution worked eee87! PQ is much better, now that I have all the tweaking options available. Thanks!
post #124 of 307
Does anyone have 51e450?

How does the Lower resolution affect this tv compared to 51d450(other than maybe not as clear)?

How is the blur on the tv? ( motion and nonmotion)
post #125 of 307
While playing a video game the panning left and right has a judder that isn't on my 60Hz lcd. 43e450, btw, resolution is fine. I don't know what blur is.
Edited by forsureman - 10/18/12 at 11:44am
post #126 of 307
Samsungd630 Samsung panel- when hockey players started moving fast they turned into a TOTAL blur or ghosting.when there was nO movement it was crystal clear.slow movement defenitely hadSome blur.
lg pa4500 -I think hockey player were pretty clear when not moving but when player moved there was some blur surrounding the player that made player less clear.
Lgcs570-the one I got there is a noticeable blur to the player when very small movement And(possibly no movement but not sure).When player moves faster the blur I think increase slightly ,again making player less clear.
Llk520 I had I think was the best with hockey player movement and It got really smooth when turning up trumotion blur and judder all the way.there were some little jaggity edges once in a while but not bad.

When there is no blur you can see the edges outlining the player against the white ice.when there is blur you can't see the edges of the player very clear.
Edited by Vic12345 - 10/18/12 at 9:36pm
post #127 of 307
I have a 2010 model Samsung plasma. It's a 50" 720P C450 model. Anyway lately I've noticed lots of red dots along the right hand side of the screen and along the right hand top. From reading on the internet it sounds like Samsung calls it red diffusion. Their recommended fix is to download a firmware update. My tv is 2 years old now and I've never downloaded firmware for it.

Just wondering if others have heard of this issue and the recommended fix? I've heard some horror stories about firmware updates killing certain tv,s...

-Guru
post #128 of 307
Got a 51 e450.Seen it in a store and thought it looked good.hopefully this will be a keeper.Getting tired of returning tvs.
post #129 of 307
that's nice on your purchase.
I used the color slides to about 300 hours to prevent image retention, then use the settings in post 117 of this thread.
If you use the slides you'll have to shut off the auto screen shut off and resize the screen to get all the tv's pixels to light up.
post #130 of 307
I'm not running the slides as it's the only tv I've got.watching it with zoomed in and quite dark settings until it matures a little bit.already had a compliment on it even with darksettings
post #131 of 307
Got to say I'm impressed with tv so far.Wondering how long till a problem comes, but so far so good.
post #132 of 307
I have the 51E450 in the bedroom and am quite happy with it. I was worried about being 720 but at a 20ft viewing distance, you cant even tell. Also have an 51E530 in the mancave/ gameroom and 64D8000 in the living room. Once you go plasma, you never look back.
post #133 of 307
Just got a 43" 450 from Best Buy. Cost me $95 out of pocket - had a $370 gift card to apply to any TV at the store. So this set was $429.99 and looked like a decent deal.
Had to pay the 8% sales taxes on the whole sales price on top of the $60 difference..

Already have two Panasonic plasmas in the living room & mancave, so this set is replacing the 20+ year old 25" CRT in the bedroom - I just couldn't see the sports graphics on that thing anymore. The 720p will do fine in the bedroom as the viewing distance is 15'.

Bought a new bed at a Rooms To Go store and the BB gift card came with that purchase.

Am still gonna be paying for the "free" TV but the wifey thinks it cost almost nuthin'. lol.

I'll be experimenting with the different settings already posted on this thread.

Hope this Samsung works as good as the three sets my son has at his house (58", & two 50" sets). He's really satisfied..
post #134 of 307
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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post

Just got a 43" 450 from Best Buy. Cost me $95 out of pocket - had a $370 gift card to apply to any TV at the store. So this set was $429.99 and looked like a decent deal.
Had to pay the 8% sales taxes on the whole sales price on top of the $60 difference..

Already have two Panasonic plasmas in the living room & mancave, so this set is replacing the 20+ year old 25" CRT in the bedroom - I just couldn't see the sports graphics on that thing anymore. The 720p will do fine in the bedroom as the viewing distance is 15'.

Bought a new bed at a Rooms To Go store and the BB gift card came with that purchase.

Am still gonna be paying for the "free" TV but the wifey thinks it cost almost nuthin'. lol.

I'll be experimenting with the different settings already posted on this thread.

Hope this Samsung works as good as the three sets my son has at his house (58", & two 50" sets). He's really satisfied..

$370 gift card for buying a bed? Link please.
post #135 of 307
Got it from a store in the Austin, Texas area - it was a newspaper flyer ad, not online:

http://www.roomstogo.com/
post #136 of 307
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Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post

Got it from a store in the Austin, Texas area - it was a newspaper flyer ad, not online:

http://www.roomstogo.com/

Never mind then. You almost made my wife's year as she's been bugging me to let her buy a new bedroom set for years.
post #137 of 307
I taped a couple of rectangle pieces of cardboard to back of tv behind speaker holes (not the most professional).Works better on big stand.. and turned equalizer down to 1/5 levels to reduce blaring sound,standard mode ,surround off,auto volume on.

***depends what's behind speakers
Bal middle
100 hz 6 from left(can cause blaring)
300 hz 5 from left(can cause blaring)
1 kHz 6 from left( can cause blaring, helps voices)
3 kHz 12 from left
10 kHz 12 from left


***UPDATED ** the bass seems to hurt sound.Some treble helps according to my ears


***putting something thicker than cardboard would be better to form speakerbox to get some bass.as long as it doesn't block vents.I put some thicker things behind speaker vents but had to change equalizer settings.i think if one can find the right thick material to cover the entire area possible behind speaker to make partial speakerbox then the sound is good enough for me.
Edited by Vic12345 - 12/28/12 at 9:05pm
post #138 of 307
Can anyone tell me how to access the service menu on the PN43E450? I just want to see how many hours are on my TV. Thanks!
post #139 of 307
Mute 1 8 2 Power .caution when in service menu
Edited by Vic12345 - 11/6/12 at 5:05am
post #140 of 307
Thank you, worked like a charm and very easy to see the hours.
post #141 of 307
post #142 of 307
Update settings from Grimmys d450 look good with ycc4:4:4 cable box look good.

Mine
Movie
Cell20
Cont 95
Bright47
Color50
Sharp40
Tint 50/50
Colorspace auto
Gamma0
Warm1
Digital noise auto
Film mode auto

R of 23
G of 33
B of 50
R g 9
G g 9
B g 10

Pretty sure wb offsets and gains may have reset to 128Which is good After when I went in service menu



This is the best tv(51e450) between 46d630,47lk520,47cs570 42pa4500 IMO.. I've only seen a TINY bit of bright screen flickering on bright sports but it has not been an Any kind of issue to me.havent seen any dark screen flicker, but haven't looked for it much.The onLy thing thing Im a bit unimpressed with is the standard def resolution with sports is blurry(sharpness up helps),fuzzy edges( noise reduction helps) like most big screen tvs ( noticable when up close to tv),and has problems when black and white come together like in small objects,lettering(Is More Noticable When camera is moving) Artifacts and rainbows(false color ,moire,maze patterns)visible mostly on sd football,sports and crowd scenes.A lot of standard def looks good though.Hd looks good. I'm quite happy with the tv for the $750 spent.Best grayscale ive seen on tvs ive had,colors,motion good.Very nice tv!!

Update*** if I turn color all the way down, put channel on color bars,on brightness setting 41 the brightness flickers.I think all other settings numbers are ok.it will be a different number on different tvs.its easy to tell in a dark room.

Update warm2 is too red.have to turn red gain down and maybe red cut up .im using warm 1
Edited by Vic12345 - 12/2/12 at 4:51am
post #143 of 307
I purchased my PN43E450 yesterday at HH Gregg in Columbus, OH. All the local stores (HH Gregg, Sears, K-Mart, Best Buy) are selling the TV for the same price. They tried to "upgrade" me to an LG LCD but after doing homework I refused to bite.

Set it up in no time and am getting excellent OTA reception. That's a good thing as WOW has an outage and I am not getting any HD or premium channels at all. What is amazing is how good SD via WOW looks on this set.

I did the CNET setting and will continue to work from there after the set has a hundred hours or so on it.
post #144 of 307
Just picked up the 43 inch at BB for 379 after my Sony 27" CRT died last week. Mucho thx to everyone for taking the time to post your settings. Don`t
watch a lot of TV with 2 jobs and 3 kids but when I do it`s mostly old shows in 4:3. I set the side bars to "Gray" to minimize future Image Retention
but am now concerned that long term I may be better off with LCD.

So If I could ask a Senior member what are the best settings for "Screen Burn Protection" since I`ll be using in 4:3 with an occasional Redbox DVD .
I could use Zoom 1 but the picture quality suffers. Cant figure out why anyone would use Zoom 2.....seems like useless option.
post #145 of 307
Beermeister Some lcds have Terrible problems with motion bluring and ghosting and all of them off angle viewing fade out.

I ran my tv so it covered full screen (480i I think- in cable box service menu) with either zoom1 or 2 on tv for a week(so the whole screen is filled).It was NOT an enjoyable experience but I did not want to damage anything.Im probably a bit paranoid.You could watch it normally( Maybe contrast in 70s brightness 45 backlight 15, and put on an all black screen that may show some image retention bars and make sure to run" scrolling "option under screen burn protection every day or second day for 20 minutes or more-for the first week or two.Have pixel shift on.Set auto protection time under setup on as well.Then a few days before the stores return policy is expired put it on something that has an all black screen (maybe turn brightness up a bit too make IR more visible).You may see some signs of image retention like bars on sides.Run the "scrolling "option for 20 minutes or an hour or two or more and see if it gets rid of all the image retention bars or ?.It should.If its not 100% gone then return it.Im guessing but you probably have too run the scrolling thing every once in a while as long as you have the tv to counteract the IR , but it beats the problems with some lcds.I think the burn in (different from image retention)was more a problem on the older plasmas.Don't forget to turn the backlight to 20 contrast 85-92 brightness 45-55Ish after a you've had it for a week.
post #146 of 307
Hey Vic.....thanks for the tips. I will be sure to use the scrolling feature. Still trying to get the flesh tones right. When I go
to friends' homes, cant believe how they have the picture adjusted. Most people seem to like the "Reds" on fire. I guess
they call it the "Torch" effect. Actually not a bad looking picture in SD if you are about 12 ft away or more considering you
are in effect viewing a 35 inch CRT equivalent. I was surprised about the sound. Nothing wrong with it in my opinion but
think everyone would enjoy the experience with a Surround System.
post #147 of 307
Has anyone had a problem with eyestrain when watching the 43"
post #148 of 307
Ira....from what distance way. I`m using the traditional bifocal lens as opposed to the progressive lens which optometrists seem to offer first.
Therefore, I like to be at least 8 ft away. Way back when remember the kids that sat in the 1st row of the movie theater ?. Dont see how one can enjoy
a 40 to 50 " flat panel from 4 ft away unless you have the eyes of a 10 year old.
post #149 of 307
8 3/4 feet.

I tried playing with eco light settings and this helped a lot.
post #150 of 307
I've seen recommendations to turn all the picture dimming Eco settings off.The only way to get flesh tones right is to calibrate the white balance.your going to have to increase the greens and reduce reds. Try reducing red in Offset and/ or increase green in gains.
Edited by Vic12345 - 11/27/12 at 6:29pm
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