Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol - Page 3

how ironic that Paramount hasn't said boo about keeping the IMAX shot scenes close to it's intended and shot aspect ratio... hypocrites.

What can I say? I'm shallow like that. Those IMAX scenes are truly spectacular and are worth the price of admission, and even on my mere 55" display other 'shifting aspect' movies look awesome (Tron, TF2) so I was greatly looking forward to Ghost Protocol on Blu-ray. But without that USP, I'm going nowhere near it.

Perhaps TF2: Big Screen Edition didn't sell as well as Paramount were expecting (making it a retailer exclusive wasn't the wisest choice, though) and they're playing it safe with Ghost Protocol. If there is to be an MI5, they may well release the IMAX version to tie in with the new film.

Best Buy has a seperate preorder listed an exclusive. It says nothing yet, but maybe could be the IMAX edition? Link

I suppose it's possible, but I have a feel that will turn out to be just a packaging variation.

lets hope it is...it would be totally ridiculous not to release an IMAX shifting aspect ratio version as that was one of the most hyped parts of the movie...plus with Dark Knight Returns coming this summer with even more IMAX scenes this has to be the worst decision ever by Paramount

Paramount here in the States must have a beef with the MI films - the exclusion of lossless audio for the first three movies is a major head scratcher.

true, but December's release of the Mission Impossible Gift Set Collection should have been encoded with lossless audio but wasn't - some of the imports of MI 1-3 have lossless, so why not the US release?

if the IMAX aspect ratio scenes are not included with the standalone Blu-ray hopefully it will be a part of the boxset with all 4 movies...either way it would be a travesty not to include it somewhere...3D is everywhere whether you like it or not but they can't put forth the effort towards something that is 100 times better in terms of immersion??...at least make it a retailer exclusive if you don't want to mass produce it!!

I don't get it . Studios complain about piracy but they expect the consumers who actually pay for the product to A. Buy multiple releases of the same movie and B. Accept inferior quality in audio and video?

Is it really that cheap to press discs with different masters of the same movie?

You know, I just glanced at my collection case, and thought about which BR's are subpar in picture quality and/or sound quality.

The only one which is truly offensive is Total Recall, US edition. Beyond that, the Star Trek BR's have a ridiculous amount of DNR, and Enter the Dragon's DNR is excessive as well.

Other than that, none are truly bad, and I would say a majority are absolutely stunning. Take District 9 for example. The DVD looks good and the BR is literally off the charts. PQ on the godfather is a bit spotty, but for the most part, looks pretty darn good.

Overall, most BR's have very high quality video and audio. I think sometimes our expectations are so inflated, we tend to complain if the last .00005% of information isn't present, whether real or imagined.

I think some of us just get too caught up in obsessive perfectionism.

If you saw a super hot chick who wanted to go out on a date with you, would you obsess about whether one of her pinkies was deformed or not (a la Megan Fox?). Sometimes people just go too far with the criticism and for whatever reason undermine their own ability to have a good time by looking for the tiniest of flaws.

She has stumpy thumbs..

But this release is especially frustrating because they advertise IMAX footage during the theatrical run and then don't deliver when a precedent has already been set for shifting AR and IMAX footage on BD. The IMAX footage was compelling enough for them to make a featurette about it and put it in the bonus features.

I happen to not like shifting AR at all. I find the Dark Knight bd to look disappointing, too, in other ways.

Why don't they shoot/crop the non-Imax scenes at 1:85, so it will match on hdtv's?

One of the things I like about the digital Imax theaters is the constant AR, It reminds me of old 70mm theaters.

Don't digi imax theatres use 2.1 screens so it looks like the ar never changes

Started? Lol, the bitching around here started when this place first came about. Everyone just has new things to bitch about or nothing to talk about at all (kind of like the current Indy thread ). Case in point, MI:4. There is NOTHING to talk about wrt the BD besides the lack of extra screen content for IMAX shots. Nothing really else to talk about until it comes out.

IMAX aspect ratios play directly into perfect picture quality...they are of much higher quality...case in point the IMAX edition of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen had better PQ then the standard edition, same with the IMAX scenes in Dark Knight...so for Ghost Protocol to not have this is huge for videophiles

I hear ya.


That is unless they own a 2.35 screen. In that case, they will scream "bloody murder" and claim its the stupidest thing ever.

Well it seems BB thinks IMAX scenes at home is useless. Here is his replies to my tweet-


Stupid reason IMO. The picture feels bigger and you get more detail. Oh well.

It's cuz most people don't have a big enough screen.

I sit 9ft away from a 100" 16:9 screen and the effect is pretty awesome. There is nothing really special about IMAX screen. They are just large and one sits really close compared to a typical stadium style theater.

Picture detail and field of view are different things. His point is valid as IMAX is not just about 'more detail' so at home indeed it doesn't make much sense...That said, at said home it means amazing PQ sequences so even if I can still see my cat bothering me in my field of view I still can enjoy incredible detailed PQ on those IMAX scenes. I would have liked having the IMAX scenes in MI:4 but well, it doesn't seem so. Which won't keep me from getting it day 1 btw.

+1

The aspect ratio change really does make a difference, even on mere 55" displays like my own, and to dismiss a home version because we don't have gigantic screens seems petty. What next? You can't have a 2.35 version because your screen is 16:9?

From the way that Mr Bird dismisses the tweets about this subject, I'd say that he had his mind made up from the beginning to 'preserve' the IMAX experience for the cinema. Hopefully enough people will make their views know to him, and perhaps in time he'll come around to the idea.

Yes but the biggest difference is the picture detail, which suddenly makes the rest of the film look like a dvd - but the AR change isn't nearly as spectacular as in the theater, for that we should have at least have 1.44:1 screens.

at least we have filmmakers like Christopher Nolan who appreciate the value of IMAX in the homes...I have no doubt that the Dark Knight Rises Blu-ray will contain shifting aspect ratios

I can somewhat understand Brad Bird's position on this and can see this as potentially adding value to people going to a movie theater...nowadays with movies being released on home video so soon after release I'm sure theaters are becoming worried that they are losing a sizable audience and this is one way to make the movie going experience more worthy

I appreciate that he wants to preserve the gimmick for the one place that it undoubtedly works best, however the value has already been added (so to speak) as far as Ghost Protocol is concerned. What's left to gain by leaving it off the home video version, maybe a few extra punters for the occasional IMAX re-release?

If other filmmakers shared the same perspective then Bird's stance would be more rational, admirable even, but the cat's out of the bag and there have been several SAR releases on home video. If it's good enough for Chris Nolan - a man who is perhaps the father of this recent IMAX trend - then I don't see why Bird is getting so sniffy about it.

BTW I don't dispute his right to present his movie how he sees fit, but I don't have to agree with his reasoning.

The Digital Bits confirmed that Brad Bird says the IMAX footage will shift to IMAX ratio during the scenes. Feel way better about my pre-order now.

Weird that Digital Bits says that considering all of the tweets that Bird posted the last week or so.

Well to be fair Bird said that shifting aspect ratio at home "didn't work", otoh he didn't say Ghost Protocol wouldn't have it.

.....I'm glad it's confirmed btw! as I said I think he has a point when he's saying the experience cannot be possibly reproduced at home, yet I do enjoy my shifting AR Blu-rays!