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post #151 of 195
8/20/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

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that was ONE SCARY crash the 55 had today... eek.gif not just the actual impaction, but those crashes where the car comes to an absolute stop when it hits the wall like that are rarely good...

The really scary part is the way that the wall pierced the car like it was a knife. Luckily it was a foot or two behind the driver's seat but imagine if the point of impact was where Martin was sitting instead of behind him. I've got to think that might have killed him or at least shattered his hip so badly he'd never have walked again.
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post #152 of 195
8/20/12 at 8:42am
my guess (sadly) is that we mght have had our first nascar fatality in awhile.... with the way the drivers are locked into position in the car, his body would have taken a massive wallop...

once more it's proven that a race car can find the worst possible spot to impact, regardless of how many safer barriers, etc. get erected...

just glad mark survived it...
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post #153 of 195
8/20/12 at 9:30am
I'm pretty sure NASCAR is going to take this as another lesson learned and will take action to correct it pretty quickly. Could be tires or water barrels stacked at the entrances, reshaping them, or something else.
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post #154 of 195
8/27/12 at 6:03pm
Standings after Bristol 24/36

1. Greg Biffle (849)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-11)
3. Dale Earnhardt Jr (-15)
4. Matt Kenseth (-26)
5. Martin Truex Jr. (-52)
6. Clint Bowyer (-55)
7. Brad Keselowski (-59)
8. Denny Hamlin (-75)
9. Kevin Harvick (-82)
10. Tony Stewart (-103)

Wild Card

11. Kasey Kahne 2 wins
12. Kyle Busch 1 win

Wins

Denny Hamlin - 3
Jimmie Johnson - 3
Brad Keselowski - 3
Tony Stewart - 3
Greg Biffle - 2
Kasey Kahne - 2
Marcos Ambrose - 1
Jeff Gordon - 1
Clint Bowyer - 1
Dale Earnhardt Jr. - 1
Joey Lagano - 1
Kyle Busch - 1
Ryan Newman - 1
Matt Kenseth - 1
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post #155 of 195
9/4/12 at 2:22pm
Standings after Atlanta 25/36

1. Greg Biffle (879)
2. Dale Earnhardt Jr.(-8)
3. Matt Kenseth (-21)
4. Jimmie Johnson (-31)
5. Martin Truex Jr. (-41)
6. Brad Keselowski (-48)
7. Denny Hamlin (-57)
8. Clint Bowyer (-68)
9. Kevin Harvick (-72)
10. Tony Stewart (-110)

Wild Card

11. Kasey Kahne 2 wins
12. Kyle Busch 1 win

Wins

Denny Hamlin - 4
Jimmie Johnson - 3
Brad Keselowski - 3
Tony Stewart - 3
Greg Biffle - 2
Kasey Kahne - 2
Marcos Ambrose - 1
Jeff Gordon - 1
Clint Bowyer - 1
Dale Earnhardt Jr. - 1
Joey Lagano - 1
Kyle Busch - 1
Ryan Newman - 1
Matt Kenseth - 1
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post #156 of 195
9/12/12 at 8:08pm
Sorry i haven't been online here's the 12 chase drivers going for the Sprint Cup Championship

1. Greg Biffle
2. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
3. Matt Kenseth
4. Jimmie Johnson
5. Martin Truex Jr.
6. Brad Keselowski
7. Denny Hamlin
8. Clint Bowyer
9. Kevin Harvick
10. Tony Stewart
11. Kasey Kahne
12. Jeff Gordon
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post #157 of 195
9/12/12 at 8:11pm
Thanks man. Jeff Gordon in, Kyle Busch out. AWESOME!!! biggrin.gif
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post #158 of 195
9/13/12 at 4:22am
Yep, and as usual he pulled his Big Baby move and refused to talk to the media after the bad pit call left him out of the chase. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. wink.gif
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post #159 of 195
9/13/12 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Yep, and as usual he pulled his Big Baby move and refused to talk to the media after the bad pit call left him out of the chase. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. wink.gif
He did not have an obligation to talk to anyone after the race is over. Only the top 5 finishers do.
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post #160 of 195
9/14/12 at 4:30am
Doesn't make him any less of a baby for only wanting to talk when things go good. He and Tiger are the two biggest babies in sports right now.
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post #161 of 195
9/14/12 at 6:51am
Kyle? He was interviewed by an ABC/ESPN reporter after the race.
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post #162 of 195
9/14/12 at 9:59am
Not that I saw, and I scanned through all the interviews on my recording after they blew the chase. I saw in the paper next day that he was unavailable to talk to the media after ripping Dave Rogers (crew chief) a new one. Maybe I missed it.
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post #163 of 195
9/18/12 at 2:51pm
Standings after Chicagoland 27/36

1. Brad Keselowski (2056)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-3)
3. Tony Stewart (-8)
4. Denny Hamlin (-15)
5. Kasey Kahne (-15)
6. Clint Bowyer (-15)
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-17)
8. Greg Biffle (-19)
9. Martin Truex Jr. (-21)
10. Kevin Harvick (-24
11. Matt Kenseth (-26)
12. Jeff Gordon (-47)
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post #164 of 195
9/25/12 at 11:34am
Standings after Loudon 28/36

1. Jimmie Johnson (2096)
2. Brad Keselowski (-1)
3. Denny Hamlin (-7)
4. Tony Stewart (-10)
5. Kasey Kahne (-15)
6. Clint Bowyer (-15)
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-26)
8. Kevin Harvick (-31)
9. Greg Biffle (-33)
10. Martin Truex Jr. (-34)
11. Matt Kenseth (-35)
12. Jeff Gordon (-45)
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post #165 of 195
9/25/12 at 12:12pm
I'll admit I didn't watch much of this last race, but what I did was horrible, PQ-wise. (on DishNetwork) Looked worse than SD.
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post #166 of 195
9/26/12 at 12:31pm
You didn't miss much, that one went down as one of the most boring races of the year.
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post #167 of 195
10/4/12 at 1:05pm
Standings after Dover 29/36


1. Brad Keselowski (Leader)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-5)
3. Denny Hamlin (-16)
4. Clint Bowyer (-25)
5. Tony Stewart (-32)
6. Kasey Kahne (-32)
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-39)
8. Martin Truex Jr. (-42)
9. Kevin Harvick (-46)
10. Jeff Gordon (-48)
11. Greg Biffle (-51)
12. Matt Kenseth (-72)
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post #168 of 195
10/7/12 at 6:16pm
Standings after Talladega 30/36

1. Brad Keselowski (2179)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-14)
3. Denny Hamlin (-23)
4. Kasey Kahne (-36)
5. Clint Bowyer (-40)
6. Jeff Gordon (-42)
7. Tony Stewart (-46)
8. Martin Truex Jr. (-48)
9. Greg Biffle (-49)
10. Kevin Harvick (-49)
11. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-51)
12. Matt Kenseth (-62)
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post #169 of 195
10/7/12 at 11:37pm
Dam! Posted in record time! wink.gif
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post #170 of 195
10/8/12 at 12:29am
I'd have to agree with Junior's comments that he doesn't even want to run at Talladega or Daytona anymore.
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Originally Posted by Dale Earnhardt Jr 
"I can't believe nobody is sensible enough to realize just how ridiculous that was," he said, looking at a group of reporters. "That is ridiculous that all those cars were tore up. And everybody is just, 'Ho hum, no big deal.' That's not alright."

Asked for suggestions as for what NASCAR could do to fix the problem, Earnhardt Jr. said he was just a driver, not an engineer. But he wondered aloud why smart people couldn't come up with a way to separate the cars a bit more than they are now.

"Everybody can get on the chip about it and get all excited about what just happened, but for the longevity of the sport, that ain't healthy," he said. "I don't care what anybody says. It's good for the here and now – it'll get people talking today – but for the long run, that's not good for the sport, the way that race ended and the way the racing is. It's not going to be productive for years to come."
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post #171 of 195
10/8/12 at 4:33am
He's right but NASCAR doesn't care because fans like pack racing and the potential big wrecks. Just look what happened when the tandems got going a couple of years ago, they changed the rules to force them back into packs because fans said tandems were boring.

I'm not sure that any aero package is going to break up the packs like Junior wants, and/or make Talladega a handling track.
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post #172 of 195
10/8/12 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

He's right but NASCAR doesn't care because fans like pack racing and the potential big wrecks. Just look what happened when the tandems got going a couple of years ago, they changed the rules to force them back into packs because fans said tandems were boring.
I'm not sure that any aero package is going to break up the packs like Junior wants, and/or make Talladega a handling track.
Even if the wreck didn't happen, seeing 4 wide around the entire track was freaking awesome. Jr can go race on little bitty race tracks if he wants to.

I hated the tandem racing. I'm glad they fixed that. I wish they would be able to go back to the type of racing when there was like 100 lead changes in a race, where every lane could speed up to the front.
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post #173 of 195
10/8/12 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

He's right but NASCAR doesn't care because fans like pack racing and the potential big wrecks. Just look what happened when the tandems got going a couple of years ago, they changed the rules to force them back into packs because fans said tandems were boring.
I'm not sure that any aero package is going to break up the packs like Junior wants, and/or make Talladega a handling track.

One thing will, a worn out racetrack. Case in point, Daytona a couple years ago before they repaved it. ISC and Speedway Motorsports have been Repave happy lately. Drivers don't want a one groove racetrack. They want a worn out track, with multiple grooves for passing. Where they have to search for grip and speed.
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post #174 of 195
10/8/12 at 9:30am
For Daytona sure, but not Talladega. That has always been a wide-open, pedal to the floor track no matter how old the surface is. The only way you can add handling (that I can think of) is to make the cars unstable, which introduces more possibility for wrecks.
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post #175 of 195
10/8/12 at 10:03am
The way to end this sort of racing is to change the track, or simply stop racing at Talledega. I agree with Jr. as well, as soon as I saw the wreck I thought the very same thing, when are they finally going to end this? Seeing Stewart's car land on Kayne was pretty scary, he could have been killed, is that what it's going to take end this nonsense, someone dying?

On another note, what the hell was Johnson thinking straddling Jr's door like that with an obviously flat tire? If that tire had come apart it could have severely damaged his leg.
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post #176 of 195
10/8/12 at 10:19am
Someone already did die in a plate race. Earnhardt?? All they did as a result was make them wear the hans device. The cars are built so safe now. Guys used to have big wrecks and break a leg or arm. Nobody even gets hurt now

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post #177 of 195
10/8/12 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

Someone already did die in a plate race. Earnhardt?? All they did as a result was make them wear the hans device. The cars are built so safe now. Guys used to have big wrecks and break a leg or arm. Nobody even gets hurt now
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Yep, although technically it was Daytona. biggrin.gif

Getting rid of Daytona and Talladega, well then you would have to get rid of all tracks where they got 170+. I'm sure they hit speeds near 200 at California, Pocono, Charlotte, those would have to go bye-bye. Or if you got rid of the banked tracks you lose Bristol, Dover, Darlington.
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post #178 of 195
10/11/12 at 2:05pm
Well apparently the Talledega crash had a big causality that will definately affect the ratings for the next two weeks. One of the chasers will not be racing due to TWO concussions he recently suffered at Talledega and a tire test in Kansas. Regan Smith (who was supposed to replace Kurt Busch this week) instead will be driving that Diet Mountain Dew 88 car for Hendrick Motorsports, while AJ Allmendinger will drive the Phoenix Racing car vacated by Busch,

I wonder how far NASCAR's ratings will fall without it's poster boy out there racing. The folks at the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network must be having a heart attack about now.

The news conference from this morning at Charlotte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNxTjiXd7Y&feature=player_embedded
Edited by dmking12370 - 10/11/12 at 2:13pm
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post #179 of 195
10/18/12 at 5:28pm
Standings after Charlotte 31/36


1. Brad Keselowski (Leader)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-7)
3. Denny Hamlin (-15)
4. Clint Bowyer (-28)
5. Kasey Kahne (-35)
6. Greg Biffle (-43)
7. Martin Truex Jr. (-49)
8. Tony Stewart (-50)
9. Jeff Gordon (-50)
10. Kevin Harvick (-56)
11. Matt Kenseth (-67)
12. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-86)
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post #180 of 195
10/21/12 at 3:00pm
Standings after Kansas 32/36

1. Brad Keselowski (Leader)
2. Jimmie Johnson (-7)
3. Denny Hamlin (-20)
4. Clint Bowyer (-25)
5. Kasey Kahne (-30)
6. Martin Truex Jr. (-43)
7. Tony Stewart(-47)
8. Jeff Gordon (-51)
9. Matt Kenseth (-55)
10. Kevin Harvick (-59)
11. Greg Biffle (-62)
12. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-122)
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