Official Panasonic DMP-BDT 220/320/500 Owners Thread - Page 44

Originally Posted by Jacob305

teach.
can you try the t2:skynet edition again. they finally fixed the long lag on the loading up with the blu ray. can you try again and report back.
thanks
Jacob

Originally Posted by apw2607

8.8.8.8 is just one of the google public DNS server

Originally Posted by teachsac

I might not get to it before Thursday, but I will.

S~

Originally Posted by Devianza

Ok, this is odd.

So I contacted Vudu, they told me to put these dns numbers in my router..

Primary DNS - 8.8.8.8
Secondary DNS 4.2.2.2

I have no clue what they meant by that seeing as how my router obtains the dns from the modem. However, I tossed those dns numbers into my player.

Originally Posted by sbsidlov

Everyone keeps repeating this. Theory and practice are not the same.

DTS-HD MA greater than 5.1 can ONLY be 96mhz and 24bit* that's the low end of the MA bitrate http://www.dts.com/~/media/45C1661C1...erview_PDF.pdf . This is also EXACTLY the max on optical. 5.1 DTS can go up to 192 mhz/6mbps and is beyond optical-- but that doesn't actually mean that they are using 192 mhz for the 5.1 and may still only go to 96 mhz or less, never topping out at the max bit rates. ( http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=91776) Additionally the DTS 'legacy' upto bit rate, 1509 kbps, is actually also just 96 mhz. In other words, why would you use a DTS core that's less than 96 mhz on a blueray? (unless you don't have or want to distribute a 96mhz track) Even if you were using DTS-HD/MA 5.1 @ 192 mhz, the core would still be 96 mhz by the legacy rule and any additional information would be encoded outside the core, would be what is increasing the bitrate.

I know that the LOTR BD are described as lossless 6.1 DTS-HD (so it's 'only' 96 mhz being over 5.1 channels). I also own the DVD LOTR extended edition with 6.1 DTS-ES soundtracks (again my avr is fully 96mhz/24bit 6.1-DTS-ES capable). Letting the avr do the decoding, the audio quality on these are NOT the same to my ears, and not the same to others as witnessed by the reviews: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/The_Lo...ay_Review/6544 What am I hearing then if it's not the lossless core version? The way it's been described it I would not be able to tell the difference between the two but there is a difference.

My AVR certainly doesn't understand DD-TrueHD all the time. When LFE are present (gunshots, explosions etc), my AVR goes silent and thinks that the soundtrack has a blank spot. If what everyone is saying were 100%, I wouldn't have to change the settings to get it to downmix if it just 'became' DD5.1 because it's output on the optical. Again, DD-TrueHD can go to 192 mhz when there are only 6.1 tracks or less otherwise it's max is once again, 96 mhz, but please tell me which discs actually have such a track besides Akira?


* See here: http://www.dts.com/professionals/sou...ter-audio.aspx

Originally Posted by sbsidlov

You can use Google's other dns server ip of 8.8.4.4 or opendns' 208.67.222.222 or 208.67.220.220, for the secondary.

Originally Posted by whitesoxwin


Sorry, but you totally lost me. Seems you're confusing sampling rate with bitrate. Also, you constantly refer to "mhz" when I think you mean "kHz".

Pretty sure that the new lossless codecs (DTS-HD MA, and Dolby TrueHD) can not be sent over optical without modification.

Originally Posted by MrRoy

Lossless audio cannot be sent over optical. There simply isnt enough bandwidth. Click the display button when watching a blu ray and it will tell you the bitrate for the audio and video. Lossless is many Mbps and the most iI have seen over optical is 1.5Mbps and that is with DTS.

Originally Posted by mdavej

I think the confusion over this issue is the fact that optical fiber theoretically has enough bandwidth, but no AV device has been or ever will be designed and built to use it. ... So if all you have is optical, go ahead plug it in and enjoy it until you upgrade to an HDMI capable AVR.

Originally Posted by blporter

I've had the 220 for about a month and love it...with one exception. I was watching an old DVD (Star Trek: Nemesis) and notice that when the Enterprise was moving in space, there was a bit of "judder". Can't say I've noticed this on any newer DVDs or Blu-rays. Is this the TV (Samsung HL-S6187W 1080P DLP, 4 years old), receiver (Onkyo TX-NR509) or the 220?

Originally Posted by sexsational

Hi I'm excited to pick up one of these this week. Although I've been looking through the tread and can't find a clear indication if cinavia is included within the firmware when you get this straight out of the box.

Just a few questions, I appreciate all the help.

-Does this include cinavia right out of the box?
-If not, will the streaming services work without updating? (I know sony requires this)
-Also, does this output 24p when playing mkv's off an external usb drive.

Thanks again, I look forward to picking one of these up.

Originally Posted by steve ans

I want to reiterate that that extremely long audio lag was present ONLY on the 220 and not on any other devices that had the Netflix app (Sony 52EX701, Sony 55HX729, PS3, my Macs & iPhone). The same titles played on my other devices were normal I did not check my Panny BDT210, however. My very long audio delay was gone the next morning but I remained concerned and returned it back to BB and exchanged it for my original purchase: a Sony BDP S590. No issues with Netflix or anything; slower load times but I can live with that. Having black flashes on my BDT-210 was enough. Although I have Netflix built into both TVs and my PS3, I still wanted my BD player to not have issues. The 220 is a real nice player-I just made the decision to try another Sony. It really was weird that the audio delay just left as quickly as it came. Might it have been a server issue? Netflix worked perfectly on all my other devices that night. It just shook my confidence and I was way at the start of my exchange period.

Originally Posted by mdavej

With DVD on a panasonic, you must enable 24p everytime you watch a disc (assuming your display supports it). IIRC, press Info, then advanced to change enable 24p. If your display doesn't support 24p, then there's nothing you can do.

Originally Posted by NateDoggg

I've never had a Blu Ray player before. I'm liking the Panasonic reviews. I have an 82" Mitsubishi 3D HDTV, a Sony STRDH720 3D AV Receiver, and a set of MartinLogan 5.1 speakers.

I'm looking for my Blu Ray to: 1) Have great picture and sound; 2) Upscale my DVD's as good as possible; 3) Good built-in wireless; 4) 3D clarity; and 5) Able to stream NetFlix movies well.

I don't think I need my Blu Ray to do a lot else for me. Do you guys have any suggestions on whether the BDT 220 or BDT 320 is a better option for me given the things I'm asking it to do? Thank you in advance for your insights!

Nate

Originally Posted by drhankz

I own the 2011 & 2012 panny's and my new favorite
Is the Sony S790 - Check it out as well.

Originally Posted by NateDoggg

that puppy is slightly out of my price range. I was more in the price range of the S590, but it wasn't as highly rated as the Panny 220 or 320. I appreciate the info though - I just can't find the S790 for under $250, and my price limit is about $160.

you said you own the 2011 & 2012 Panny's...do you like them? and which models do u own?

Originally Posted by drhankz

Save up $80 it will be worth it.

$250 is a steal.

Originally Posted by michaeltscott

It's only a "steal" if you actually desire and will use whatever features it offers over the $150-or-less BDP-S590. (Also No one seems to be significantly discounting it as yet).

Originally Posted by NateDoggg

I just simply can't afford the S790. And, from all the reviews I've read, the Panny 220 and 320 were rated higher than the Sony S590. My original question is: what is better for my needs - the 220 OR the 320. I want good PQ and sound, upconvert DVD, good 3D, and good NetFlix stream. I don't need a ton of other stuff. Which model (220 or 320) best fits the bill for what I'm doing?

Originally Posted by teachsac

What you are mentioning as important will be exactly the same on either model. The main difference between the two is that the 320 has the slot drive and the touchpad remote. If those two features aren't important, go with the 220.

S~

Originally Posted by lujan

Go to the Amazon site and scroll to the middle of the page and you will see a list of the differences. Sounds like the 220 will suite your needs.

Originally Posted by NateDoggg

Not sure what the "slot drive" is, but the touchpad remote doesn't sway me one way or another. Thank you for your answer though - I'm not up to speed on Blu Rays yet so I need some guidance. They are both solid components for their price right?