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post #1621 of 3709
5/31/12 at 12:15pm
I have just set up my new BDT220. The setup was easy and fast and everything so far seems to be working well except for playing video files over the DLNA network from my PC.
A small number of videos will play, but most when prompted to play display a message this video will not play. There's no rhyme or reason why because all the files are mp4 videos. Interesting also is that when these files display on my TV they display in a date recorded order and show erroneous lengths from
00 seconds to 03 seconds. The home videos average 5 minutes in length.
Has playing videos over the DLNA network been a problem for any of you, and can it be fixed? Thanks for your help!
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post #1622 of 3709
5/31/12 at 12:58pm
If you have a chance to peruse the 110/210/310 thread, you'll see that panasonic's DLNA capability is terrible. Some choose to spend countless hours re-mastering all their content to the few formats panny understands. But I think life is too short. Just get a player that actually works with DLNA, like LG or Sony, or a file streamer like WD. Panasonic is a lost cause in that department.
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post #1623 of 3709
5/31/12 at 1:14pm
HTPC soon!!!
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post #1624 of 3709
5/31/12 at 8:28pm
So my ps3 got the yellow light of death recently and I don't see the point in replacing/repairing it as I only use it for blu-ray and netflix anyway. The thing is I have the Sony Htss360 Surround Sound system that I bought to use with the ps3 because the PS3 converts all the sound stuff for bluray since my receiver doesn't do any of that.

I am not sure what the conversion is called that the ps3 does, I just know it does something and I was wondering if anybody on here knew what blu ray player would do the same thing as the ps3? In other words, what blu ray player would convert the sound of blu ray movies to work with my surround sound like my ps3 used to do so that I can get the best sound possible? (I think its like HD MA or something like that or something about linear PCM).

Additionally, I really like that the ps3 updates the firmware via the internet and I would like a blu-ray player that does the same thing (but it needs to be cheaper than a replacement ps3). I have been looking at the Panasonic DMP-BDT220, would that satisfy all my needs?

I don't mean to sound like a total noob but I don't know anything about the sound and conversion stuff and I just need something that will do everything the ps3 will do for my blu-ray movies but not die after a few years of frequent use. Thanks in advance for the help!
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post #1625 of 3709
5/31/12 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by gary50 View Post

It is very frustrating and puzzling. I didn't have this problem prior to the firmware upgrade. I think I had to restart one time before the update,, now it happens often.

Are you having the same issue with the blu-ray not powering on for a few minutes after turning it off?

Good luck with your experimenting. I hope you're able to figure out a solution.

I shouldn't have said my symptoms were "exactly" like yours. Streaming crashes, yes; power problems, no. When I power off my player to regain wireless connectivity, it'll come right back on with no waiting. That said, it could be due to me having a different player model than yours. With regard to blu-ray, I tried turning off the player and turning it back on - no delay in powering on.

Good luck with your situation, and I'll post if I can solve my Netflix streaming crash issue - so far, no joy!
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post #1626 of 3709
5/31/12 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by DayWalkerSC400 View Post

So my ps3 got the yellow light of death recently and I don't see the point in replacing/repairing it as I only use it for blu-ray and netflix anyway. The thing is I have the Sony Htss360 Surround Sound system that I bought to use with the ps3 because the PS3 converts all the sound stuff for bluray since my receiver doesn't do any of that.

I am not sure what the conversion is called that the ps3 does, I just know it does something and I was wondering if anybody on here knew what blu ray player would do the same thing as the ps3? In other words, what blu ray player would convert the sound of blu ray movies to work with my surround sound like my ps3 used to do so that I can get the best sound possible? (I think its like HD MA or something like that or something about linear PCM).

Additionally, I really like that the ps3 updates the firmware via the internet and I would like a blu-ray player that does the same thing (but it needs to be cheaper than a replacement ps3). I have been looking at the Panasonic DMP-BDT220, would that satisfy all my needs?

I don't mean to sound like a total noob but I don't know anything about the sound and conversion stuff and I just need something that will do everything the ps3 will do for my blu-ray movies but not die after a few years of frequent use. Thanks in advance for the help!

The BDT220 will replace your dead PS3 for purposes of playing BDs and streaming Netflix. It runs the same Netflix user interface but responds to controls and updates the UI much less quickly. It can be set to decode all BD sound for output as multi-channel linear PCM if you have an AVR which can't decode the "advanced" formats (DD+ and TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA).

As for "not die after a few years of frequent use", who can say? It can be had for less than half the cost of a new PS3.
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post #1627 of 3709
6/1/12 at 6:20am
You may want to consider Sony as well. They have a bitrate and quality display like PS3 that Panasonic lacks. Sony is also a lot better at file streaming.
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post #1628 of 3709
6/1/12 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If you have a chance to peruse the 110/210/310 thread, you'll see that panasonic's DLNA capability is terrible.

But what about connecting the Panasonic through the net drive mode (samba) instead of DLNA? I was also looking for Sony's blu-ray but i need a player with streaming support of subtitles in mkv from a NAS
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post #1629 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by sdz View Post

But what about connecting the Panasonic through the net drive mode (samba) instead of DLNA? I was also looking for Sony's blu-ray but i need a player with streaming support of subtitles in mkv from a NAS

That should work. Panny can play mkvs directly from a net drive where sony can't. But I'm not sure about subtitle support. Maybe someone else can answer that.
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post #1630 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:19am
Have many videos on Vimeo, and would like to access that site.
Is this possible? Cannot find any way of browsing to a site via DLNA interface other than You Tube...thanks for your help!
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post #1631 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by DayWalkerSC400 View Post

So my ps3 got the yellow light of death recently and I don't see the point in replacing/repairing it as I only use it for blu-ray and netflix anyway. The thing is I have the Sony Htss360 Surround Sound system that I bought to use with the ps3 because the PS3 converts all the sound stuff for bluray since my receiver doesn't do any of that.

I am not sure what the conversion is called that the ps3 does, I just know it does something and I was wondering if anybody on here knew what blu ray player would do the same thing as the ps3? In other words, what blu ray player would convert the sound of blu ray movies to work with my surround sound like my ps3 used to do so that I can get the best sound possible? (I think its like HD MA or something like that or something about linear PCM).

Additionally, I really like that the ps3 updates the firmware via the internet and I would like a blu-ray player that does the same thing (but it needs to be cheaper than a replacement ps3). I have been looking at the Panasonic DMP-BDT220, would that satisfy all my needs?

I don't mean to sound like a total noob but I don't know anything about the sound and conversion stuff and I just need something that will do everything the ps3 will do for my blu-ray movies but not die after a few years of frequent use. Thanks in advance for the help!

I made this exact upgrade, primarily because my fat PS3 couldn't handle Dolby TrueHD and 3D at the same time.

The BDT220 will do everything you need i.e. it can decode the lossless formats and pass the sound as PCM. As someone mentioned above it won't be as fast as your PS3 when navigating the interface but besides that it's a great player.
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post #1632 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by idreos View Post

Have many videos on Vimeo, and would like to access that site.
Is this possible? Cannot find any way of browsing to a site via DLNA interface other than You Tube...thanks for your help!

Serviio has a plugin for Vimeo and therefore should work with Sony. I've had no success at all with Serviio and Panasonic.
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post #1633 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:37am
I'am looking at the specs for the 500 and it mentions that the 24hz produces less flicker in 2012 models....

Anyone here with a panasonic tv using 48hz mode and a BD500 outputting 24hz,is there truly less flicker as the specs claim or is it just marketing jurgan?Thanks..
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post #1634 of 3709
6/1/12 at 8:42am
Do MKV files play at 24p with these BD players or no?
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post #1635 of 3709
6/1/12 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by PeterLewis View Post

I'am looking at the specs for the 500 and it mentions that the 24hz produces less flicker in 2012 models....

Anyone here with a panasonic tv using 48hz mode and a BD500 outputting 24hz,is there truly less flicker as the specs claim or is it just marketing jurgan?Thanks..

I had the VT series, so I always used 96hz. I didn't care for 48.

S~
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post #1636 of 3709
6/2/12 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by cosmic22 View Post

After several months of research i finally bought the panasonic DMP BDT 220 a few days ago. I updated to the latest firmware 1.31 from factory default 1.01 and configured netflix via wireless. After a few minutes of streaming i lost wireless connectivity. Strangley i could not pick up any wireless broadcast, there are several broadcast at my apartment. I did a power cycle, factory reset and the system and was able to connect back on... a few minutes of streaming and the same issue.

Tired of it i returned the piece to retail store i purchased from. They were kind to give me a replacement. Back home and I start the whole process again and update the firmware and seeing the same problem- netflix streams for a while and then times out. I cant reconnect and cant see any wireless broadcast after that. I have to power cycle and can get it work for a few minutes and then times out again. I read this blog and disabled quick start and still have the same issue.

As anyone else seen this problem? Any fix? If this problem persist my last option is to return it for a sony S590. Its a shame every one seems to like this player.

Same exact problem here. It started happening immediately after updating to v1.31.

My scenario: Netflix times out, no wireless connection, no networks found (dozens should be shown). Power button on remote turns unit off but not back on. Power cord reboot returns everything to normal for an indeterminate amount of time (20-30 mins?) then it happens all over again. Rebooting and reconnecting is, obviously, tedious.

Any help would be welcomed.
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post #1637 of 3709
6/2/12 at 3:09pm
I picked up a pan bdt500 this week based on good comments I've seen about its subtitles capability for netflix. I'll confirm it does a very nice job at this.

A couple of other features I'm happy with are the support for larger disk drives through the usb and for the large sdhc chips, since I have one of the pan tm900 hd cameras.

I've been using an oppo bdp95 into the the balanced inputs of a yamaha amp, and very happy with its sound, so I'll primarily use this bdt500 for the internet apps. I tried vudu, amazon and netflix, and everything worked fine.

One note ... if you are going to use stereo mixdown from the internet apps, you need to plugin into the 2ch/surround back audio outputs.
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post #1638 of 3709
6/2/12 at 9:15pm
New and unamusing BDT220 weirdness: it had been sitting in the Netflix player for a while when I tried to use it I was told that the player had become unregistered. Annoying, but usually fairly quickly fixed. It brought up the "Are you a Netflix Member?" dialog but with a twist--no selection highlighting. The words "Yes" and "No" appear, but both as black text on a light background; the left and right keys had no effect in indicating which was selected. There is a selection, I just can't see what it is . On the text input keyboard, some of the "keys" aren't even visible, like the cursor, shift and delete ones. Quickstart is off; powering down and restarting doesn't change anything. It's just permanently munged up.

With much effort I entered my email adress and password "blindly" only to somehow miss the "continue" button. Pretty stupid situation--I'd pretty much given up on these BD players for Netflix anyway, but still.

I notice that it's showing 18 new items in the Viera Connect Marketplace. I hadn't noticed that you could order pieces of Panasonic equipment there before now.
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post #1639 of 3709
6/2/12 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

New and unamusing BDT220 weirdness: it had been sitting in the Netflix player for a while when I tried to use it I was told that the player had become unregistered.

Blu-ray players should be thought of as computers. When something strange happens, turn the power off (not standby), and disconnect the player's power cord for about 15 seconds. That should reboot it when you reconnect the cable and turn the player back on, and in most cases the player will return to normal.

I've no idea what caused your original problem.
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post #1640 of 3709
6/2/12 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Blu-ray players should be thought of as computers. When something strange happens, turn the power off (not standby), and disconnect the player's power cord for about 15 seconds. That should reboot it when you reconnect the cable and turn the player back on, and in most cases the player will return to normal.

I've no idea what caused your original problem.

Yeah--I've been a software engineer for over 30 years, the last 15 of which spent writing firmware for consumer electronics so I'm vaguely familiar with the concepts. Unplugging the board for a while and turning it back on doesn't help this problem; the little sign-in/sign-up menu remains screwed up.

As for why it decided to de-register the unit, I've probably been playing with more devices on my Netflix account than are allowed. I started Netflix up in my old BDT110 the other day because I was discussing its version of the Netflix UI with someone and wanted to check something. That made 3 BD players, my PS3, Xbox, Roku 2, TiVo and this PC (I tried it on my tablet once but never used it again).

I do notice that when I started the Viera Connect menu it asked me to authorize that (I don't remember it ever asking for that before)--that little menu's selection indication was working just fine. That's when I noticed it claiming 18 new items in the Marketplace.
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post #1641 of 3709
6/3/12 at 4:13am
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

New and unamusing BDT220 weirdness: it had been sitting in the Netflix player for a while when I tried to use it I was told that the player had become unregistered. Annoying, but usually fairly quickly fixed. It brought up the "Are you a Netflix Member?" dialog but with a twist--no selection highlighting. The words "Yes" and "No" appear, but both as black text on a light background; the left and right keys had no effect in indicating which was selected. There is a selection, I just can't see what it is . On the text input keyboard, some of the "keys" aren't even visible, like the cursor, shift and delete ones. Quickstart is off; powering down and restarting doesn't change anything. It's just permanently munged up.

With much effort I entered my email adress and password "blindly" only to somehow miss the "continue" button. Pretty stupid situation--I'd pretty much given up on these BD players for Netflix anyway, but still.

I notice that it's showing 18 new items in the Viera Connect Marketplace. I hadn't noticed that you could order pieces of Panasonic equipment there before now.

For various quirky issues, I exchanged my 220 for a Sony BDP-S590. It's slower loading but runs into less snags like this. I do also have a Panny BDT-210 which has worked fine except for Netflix flashes.
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post #1642 of 3709
6/3/12 at 9:11am
Do all these models offer the same video quality for DVD? do they have the same video chip?
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post #1643 of 3709
6/3/12 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Blu-ray players should be thought of as computers. When something strange happens, turn the power off (not standby), and disconnect the player's power cord for about 15 seconds. That should reboot it when you reconnect the cable and turn the player back on, and in most cases the player will return to normal.

I've no idea what caused your original problem.

Shouldn´t have to be like this though... I find it amazing that the PS3 has never ever failed me. It has litterary never crashed in I don´t know how many years. Not a single disc but the BDT320 and BDS700 can occasionally hang for no reason requiring reboot. For regular disc playback not this funcy stupid TV crap
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post #1644 of 3709
6/3/12 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post

Shouldn´t have to be like this though... I find it amazing that the PS3 has never ever failed me.

There is nothing amazing about it.

The PS3, as a gaming device, is actually a real computer with significantly more computing power than any display or player. Also, because of the PS3's market penetration, it's the standard test bed for studios doing transfers to Blu-ray. The studios make their crappy Java code work on the PS3, and all the other manufacturers have to play catchup.
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post #1645 of 3709
6/3/12 at 3:49pm
I wasn't able to play the beatles stereo usb 44.1khz 24 bit flac in the usb slot of the bdt500. It played fine on an oppo bdp95. Win xp says the beatles usb is fat32, and it is 8GB.

I copied one of its 44khz, 24 bit flac albums to a 32GB ntfs formatted flash drive, and it would play on the bdt500, but would skip frequently. It played fine on oppo bdp95.

I was able to play 96khz 24 bit flac recordings from both the ntfs formatted USB drive and from a dvdr data disk with no problems on both players.

I updated my firmware to whatever was the latest (I think it said 1.31) prior to these tests.
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post #1646 of 3709
6/3/12 at 3:58pm
mdavej:

Thanks for your insight into the inherent shortcoming of the bdt220
I purchased the Sony S590 to compare its file handling capability with the panasonic player

What a difference from the panny 220..The Sony S590 flawlessly handled all the video files I tried to play from my pc via dlna...it even played the edited movies I copied and pasted to and fed it via a usb flash drive.
It worked like a charm!

The panny is going back...it just couldn't deliver on its shared file handling,,,,
Thanks again for your advice. Hopefully it will prevent the frustration of some who think of possibly using a 220 in a dlna mode to share video files from their pc's hard drive or via sd and usb drives. The panny failed to read 90% of my pc's video files, and will not read copied and pasted video files from sd or usb media. The only way it can read from an sd card is if the card are right from the camera in the cameras file system (unedited raw videos)

thanks again for your advice
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post #1647 of 3709
6/3/12 at 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

For various quirky issues, I exchanged my 220 for a Sony BDP-S590. It's slower loading but runs into less snags like this. I do also have a Panny BDT-210 which has worked fine except for Netflix flashes.

I bought both the BDT220 and the Sony S390, intending to return one but I waited too long. I can switch to the S390, which has its benefits--navigation of the Netflix UI is significantly snappier (particularly of the television series episodes submenus) and it has a nice stream quality/status/timestamp display that you can bring up in the corner (this). It is significantly slower at starting streams and at starting BD playback and has a few other annoying quirks of its own.

Hopefully this problem (with the BDT220) goes away with the next firmware upgrade--I don't feel like I can sell it now as anyone who wanted to use it for Netflix would likely return it.
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post #1648 of 3709
6/3/12 at 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I bought both the BDT220 and the Sony S390, intending to return one but I waited too long. I can switch to the S390, which has its benefits--navigation of the Netflix UI is significantly snappier (particularly of the television series episodes submenus) and it has a nice stream quality/status/timestamp display that you can bring up in the corner (this). It is significantly slower at starting streams and at starting BD playback and has a few other annoying quirks of its own.

Hopefully this problem (with the BDT220) goes away with the next firmware upgrade--I don't feel like I can sell it now as anyone who wanted to use it for Netflix would likely return it.

good luck with that. it takes some time if anything. I had problems in the past with panasonic players. they never got fixed.

Jacob
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post #1649 of 3709
6/3/12 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by earowles View Post

Gary50,

I have been experiencing this with the 220 I just bought over this past weekend from day one (after firmware upgrade of course). The symptoms are exactly as you and Cosmic22 (Post #1600) describe. I'm still trying different combinations of settings, but I'm thinking it's a firmware issue with wireless connectivity. The timing of the disconnect is quite variable, but so far I haven't gotten past about one hour of Netflix streaming before it happens. Frustrating!!

I'm currently experimenting with different combinations of fixed ip wireless config, quickstart setting, BD Live setting, etc. I'll post back if I discover a magic combination of settings to prevent this behavior. I am also interested if anyone else is seeing this on their players after the 1.31 firmware upgrade.

I have had no problems streaming with my 220 with the latest 1.31 firmware. However I only use wired - have never even turned on wifi. This might confirm your suspicion that the bug is in wifi.
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post #1650 of 3709
6/3/12 at 11:39pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

good luck with that. it takes some time if anything. I had problems in the past with panasonic players. they never got fixed.

This bug is not original--it didn't come broken, it acquired it. I believe that something's become corrupted in the Netflix app.
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