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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

Thanks, I'm sure you're right. The only thing I would need it for is the -10 skip and I wouldn't use it much so I'll use the Panny remote for that and the Harmony for everything else. If I can't get the "Netflix" button to work I can always use the "Internet" button which is working fine so there are always work-arounds. smile.gif

I was wondering how the users of the DMP-BDT220 use the -10 second skip but after looking at the user manual, it seems only the users of the models with touch pad remotes have this functionality? Is this correct? I would appreciate some responses from those of you that have the 220 'cause if you do have this functionality, then there should be a way to get to it without a touch pad...
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Originally Posted by akopperl View Post

Has anyone experienced random frame skipping? The first movie (50/50-rental) I played on my 320, had approximately 3 instances where it appears that a frame was skipped. I went back and replayed the same scenes and they played back perfectly the second time.
I also purchased a new Sony player (bdp-s790) and the first movie I played back (Alien - unfortunately I no longer had 50/50 in the house), played back fine.
I actually like the Panasonic better - faster and a better interface for many of the streaming services. However, I am a little concerned about the frame rate skips I experienced and some of the threads I have read about issues while streaming (I am using a wired connection - I think most of the people having issues are using wireless, but not sure). I can only keep one player.

I've seen the problem. Last night I tried disabling BD-Live and going to wired connection to solve it. I read somewhere here on the forum that during BD playback, the player attempts to maintain a network connection to support BD-Live. So far so good but I had to do a hard power cycle for the changes to take effect. The problem is that you can go for a fairly significant time period without seeing the problem. BD discs I've seen the problem on include GoodFellas and various Harry Potter Blu-rays. I'm curious if this solves the problem for others.
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Greetings!

I was SO excited to get the Panasonic DMP-BDT220, so I could finally have Blu-Ray capability, and stream movies/tv (maybe get rid of cable?). Unfortunately, while the interface and picture quality is great, I've been having massive problems with internet connection. I thought I would post my issues here and see if anybody has experienced anything similar and/or has any recommendations for me. I really am at my wit's end (I think you'll be able to see that I've attempted everything I can). Unless any of you can think of anything I haven't tried, I think my next step is to try a different streaming device (Roku?). Thank you in advance for anything you might be able to offer:

- My blu-ray is two rooms away (about 50 feet from my Netgear Gateway Modem/Rouder (combo))
- When powered on, I immediately had connection, however, I only had about 2 of 5 bars (signal strength), which was resulting in streaming movies to stop (black screen and message from Amazon (for example) saying "this movie cannot be played at this time", or something like that)...same issue with Hulu and Netflix
- My Tivo has been (and is now) able to stream Netflix and Amazon flawlessly for the past few years

So, what I've tried to do to remedy the situation:

Panasonic
I've talked to Panasonic tech support (many times). I'm very impressed by the patience of the IT department. They've been very helpful, offering suggestions, but I still have the same issue today...they have recommended the following to no avail:
- They recommended that I Reset the unit
- They recommended a Wi-Fi Extender, which I purchased (Netgear Range Extender). This immediately gave me 5 of 5 bars of connectivity (consistently), but still getting streaming interruptions
- I have noticed that SOMETIMES (maybe once out of every 10 interruptions) the "Link Rate" LED (indicates a wireless connection between the Extender and the router) on the front of the Range Extender will go from Green ("best") to Amber ("good") during a streaming interruption...
- They recommended that I ask Time Warner Cable to open specific ports, but TW stated that they do not block any ports (they are all open)

Time Warner Cable
I've talked to Time Warner tech support (many times). They too have been patient with me, and have suggested/done the following:
- Came to my house and:
- changed the modem/router
- inspected the cable and incoming signal
- changed an outside connector
- Made (internal) changes to my Netgear gateway modem (via remote access)
- Turned on UPNP (Universal Plug n Play)
- Changed the "channel"...I'm not sure what this means exactly...
- They recommended that I move the Range Extender to the Panasonic DMP-BDT220 and wire it with an ethernet cable...I did this, but still same problem.

Amazon
Because I've been trying to figure out what the heck is causing the outages, I've also called Amazon (before I realized that the same thing is happening with Amazon, Hulu, and Netflix). They made the following observation:
- They could see from their end that I was only at approx. 5.5 KBPS and I should be around 8.5 KBPS
- The suggestion was to power down other devices in the house, because I have many that are potentially stealing band width from my router (3 desktops, iPhone, iPad, Tivo, Wii, and Panasonic DMP-BDT220). However, after powering down one desktop, the iphone, the ipad, the wii, and the Tivo (only things on were (2 wired desktops and Panasonic DMP-BDT220) I'm still getting the same problem.


The only thing I haven't done is move my Gateway Modem closer to the Panasonic DMP-BDT220. This is difficult, if not impossible, in my house, as it would require running a cable line through the house or along the outside of the house... But, if I have 5 of 5 bars of connectivity, doesn't that mean I'm getting full internet strength? WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THESE INTERRUPTIONS TO STREAMING?

*EDIT* I just realized that I do have another cable line (that is currently going to my TIVO). Should I try/is it possible to connect a separate modem/router to that cable line, then connect the modem/router directly to the Panasonic DMP-BDT220?
Edited by bseider - 6/24/12 at 9:40am
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I rarely use wireless for many of the same reasons. I use a powerline adapter plugged into my modem and then into my devices downstairs. Works like a charm. All of the benfits of wired without needing to run a cable,

S~
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Originally Posted by bseider View Post

*EDIT* I just realized that I do have another cable line (that is currently going to my TIVO). Should I try/is it possible to connect a separate modem/router to that cable line, then connect the modem/router directly to the Panasonic DMP-BDT220?

Try it! There's no harm. I've always had a better experience with a wired connection versus wireless for streaming video.

Also, the latest firmware does resolve some issues with wireless. However, you will have to perform a factory reset on the player for Netflix to work again.
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Since the last firmware update, my Netflix has been bricked, having worked fine before. I'm hardwired to my router, and other apps like Amazon and Picasa worked fine. Netflix always reported an error connecting, there was an error on the screen in the lower right corner, can't recall exactly, like u-200. Yesterday I went to netflix in my account settings and deleted all devices. On the player I reset to defaults, and tried again. No go. It recognized I was not registered, but still would not connect. Late last night I found this reset sequence on the Panasonic website in a FAQ for resetting the viera password. This process appears to be full factory reset. I reset my player with this sequence and now it works again. I've got the 320 player. Steps to follow:

With the unit Powered OFF:

Press the KEYS button (upper right of the touchpad) and the Y and B Simultaneously for over 5 seconds. You'll see 00 RET on the screen.

Next, Press the R key and the display will cycle through modes, you want to cycle to 08 FIN. With 08 FIN displayed, not press and hold G key. The unit will power off.

After power on, I got the full OOTB experience, I had to select language and screen format, and network setup. I tried netflix twice, it's working.

I hope this works for the rest of you.

Ron
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

I rarely use wireless for many of the same reasons. I use a powerline adapter plugged into my modem and then into my devices downstairs. Works like a charm. All of the benfits of wired without needing to run a cable,
S~

Isn't this a very similar "fix" as the Range Extender I'm currently using? I have a wireless link to the Extender, then a wired (ethernet cable) link to the Panasonic Blu Ray...
post #1808 of 4169
Not quite. This gets rid of the wireless aspect and works exactly like it was wired. No drops.

S~
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Not quite. This gets rid of the wireless aspect and works exactly like it was wired. No drops.
S~

Hmmmm, with that said, I'm very interested.

I'm curious though, how is it "like wired?" Isn't it still a wireless connection from the router to the powerline adapter, then wired from the powerline adapter to the blu-ray? If yes, isn't there the same potential for wireless "problems" during the first route, from the router to powerline adapter?

Anybody else have experience using a powerline adapter? Should I return the Extender and purchase a powerline adapter?
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Originally Posted by bseider View Post

Hmmmm, with that said, I'm very interested.
I'm curious though, how is it "like wired?" Isn't it still a wireless connection from the router to the powerline adapter, then wired from the powerline adapter to the blu-ray? If yes, isn't there the same potential for wireless "problems" during the first route, from the router to powerline adapter?
Anybody else have experience using a powerline adapter? Should I return the Extender and purchase a powerline adapter?

Powerline Networking, or Coax networking (MoCA) both offer superior speeds in almost all cases to wireless. The main reason they perform so much better for streaming content is that wireless adapters, in virtually every case, suffer from drops for a few seconds at a time, almost continuously. With normal work this is fine, as your file transfer will just resume or you won't notice. With streaming content, especially with a small buffer for data, these small drops can lead to continuous rebuffering and stuttering issues. Since the streaming speed isn't that high, the most important factor is being a steady signal without drop-outs, and any wired solution is typically going to beat a wireless one.

I've run Powerline adapters without issue, but be warned that you might need to potentially swap a circuit breaker to make it work as full speed, as some breakers filter more than others, which can kill the powerline data. I found it worked great for me in one bedroom, but another bedroom was on a different breaker and there it failed to be fast.
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To see what Blockbuster has available I do a search with just 3D and then as you see movie titles you have to click on "see all versions" some will list 3D for rental some will list 3D for sale and some do not show 3D at all. Accordingly, any search can be very time consuming as Blockbuster has told me that there is no better way right now to filter the results.
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This player (220) is a BOSS. Very quiet during playback, and BR PQ is outstanding. It also does a fantastic job with upconversion from what I can tell. Color saturation and sharpness look very good for DVD.

File support is limited compared to the sony, but I knew that to begin with. The interface is very pretty. There's even some garish chrome on the front bezel for you stylish types. smile.gif

I don't do a lot of streaming, but the firmware update via wireless went very smoothly. The player accommodates an SD card, which is a cool option.

If you still watch a lot of DVD's, the upconversion could be a swaying factor in favor of this player, IMO.
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Just updated my Panny 220 with firmware upgrade 1.39 this Sunday evening. Immediately checked Viera Connect to see if Netflix, etc. was still working - all fine thru wired LAN connection. Still not seeing any browser yet?? I even checked the market but did not see a browser. The Panny firmware site states the upgrade is for
  • Stability and functionality of VIERA Connect™ Apps
  • Playability of Blu-ray Disc™

Anyone seen a more precise explanation with detail about the upgrade?
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There is a bug with playback with BD-Live enabled. No, I don't use the feature often, but BR should play back with this feature on, obviously. Hopefully Panny can fix this issue.

OTOH, there is a zoom feature which is extremely useful. It actually zooms the picture without stretching it. Very useful for watching the original star wars films on dvd. smile.gif
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I don't see any visible changes in the Viera Cast apps that I use. I was hoping for support for digital 5.1 sound and/or the new Watchlist in the Amazon player but no such luck.
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My issues is specific to one Blu Ray: The Dark Knight (Best Buy Exclusive Released 5/29/12). All other discs are perfect in my player.

I have read various posts that others have experienced issues with this disc, but none were specific to the DMP BDT-220. To those that have this player and this specific release, have you experienced heavily pixelation, stutters, and then full freezing of this movie? I'm going to try it with BD-Live turned off to see if that makes a difference, but I'd like to know if this is just a bad release and if the earlier release of this movie on Blu Ray is worth buying. I'd like to have it in my library.

Thanks in advance!
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Pro-calibrated Panasonic TC-P65GT30

Panasonic DMP-BDT310 on left and Panasonic DMP BDT500 on right. Using same setting on both.

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New firmware update today for this group of players (6/25/12)

Edit: See that someone posted about an update Sunday evening. Just updated myself and running The Dark Knight (5/29/12) release through it's paces.
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I was looking through the manual online for the 220, and it said something about resume on not being supported for Blu-Rays. Is that right? Does that mean if I stop playing a Blu-Ray, I won't be able to resume playing where I left off? Does anyone know about this?
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Originally Posted by avsusername View Post

I was looking through the manual online for the 220, and it said something about resume on not being supported for Blu-Rays. Is that right? Does that mean if I stop playing a Blu-Ray, I won't be able to resume playing where I left off? Does anyone know about this?

This has been discussed a lot. All Blu-ray players work this way. Resume function for BDs must be authored in. Newer java based BDs are writing it in. Older non-java based movies also resume fine. Some studios use bookmasrking (Universal).

S~
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

This has been discussed a lot. All Blu-ray players work this way. Resume function for BDs must be authored in. Newer java based BDs are writing it in. Older non-java based movies also resume fine. Some studios use bookmasrking (Universal).
S~
Ok, so what you're saying is that pretty much all Blu-rays will resume because it's built-in to the disc itself, correct? And that all Blu-ray players of any brand will not have resume function in itself, right?
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Originally Posted by avsusername View Post

Ok, so what you're saying is that pretty much all Blu-rays will resume because it's built-in to the disc itself, correct? And that all Blu-ray players of any brand will not have resume function in itself, right?

No. Not all blu-rays will resume. It must be specifically authored onto BD-J discs. No telling if it is. Disney is good about resume. Older Non Java based discs will reume. All BD players will operate the same way.

S~
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Pro-calibrated Panasonic TC-P65GT30
Panasonic DMP-BDT310 on left and Panasonic DMP BDT500 on right. Using same setting on both.
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Thanks. Not much of a difference which is a good thing because the BDT310 already looked solid smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

Pro-calibrated Panasonic TC-P65GT30
Panasonic DMP-BDT310 on left and Panasonic DMP BDT500 on right. Using same setting on both.

Thanks for the comparison! It looks to me that the 500 handles the dark areas with a bit more "finesse" and provides subtle levels of detail without crushing the blacks.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Why buy the 320 in the first place rolleyes.gif?
You could buy a cheap universal and program it for the Panasonic, or you could download the Android or iOS app into your phone.

For slot loading drive, no flappy front panel, heavier build quality, and sexy looks.

Already have plenty of universals, but they usually end up enraging me, so the OEM remotes are kept nearby. $10 for a 220 remote is a bargain if it's true, and much cheaper than the time I would spend programming anything.

The iOS thing is a joke - those things are always low on battery, I would never count on it for my home theater.
Edited by AVfile - 6/25/12 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by teachsac 
Resume function for BDs must be authored in. Newer java based BDs are writing it in. Older non-java based movies also resume fine. Some studios use bookmasrking (Universal)

It sounds like not too many people are aware of Bookmarks, usually marked during playback with the "green" button.

"One set of buttons exclusive to the remote controls of Blu-ray players includes the "Red," "Blue," "Yellow" and "Green" buttons, which can be used while playing certain discs to access additional content or create a bookmark during playback.

Read more: Blu-ray Remote Features | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7415678_blu_ray-remote-features.html"

Apologies for the off-topic again.
Edited by AVfile - 6/25/12 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by Barana2080 View Post

This sounds crazy to me. Rentals tend to crash, but a store bought one? Stop watching The Help, your not missing much. Problem solved.

Heh heh. I married a California woman. She needs a steady regular diet of white guilt and cultural self-loathing now that she graduated from the California public schooling / UC state universities and no longer gets it there.
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post

Thanks. Not much of a difference which is a good thing because the BDT310 already looked solid smile.gif
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post


Thanks for the comparison! It looks to me that the 500 handles the dark areas with a bit more "finesse" and provides subtle levels of detail without crushing the blacks.
In analyzing those pictures, I noticed a darker spot on the hillside across the lake in the 500 that didn’t show up in the 310. I blew those up for a better look. The land to the top right of the house looks to be more barren in the left photo, whereas the 500 shows a lot more detail in that same area.

Left photo is the 310. The right is the 500.

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post #1829 of 4169
^ Different gamma setting that would be calibrated out with a professional calibration?
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

No. Not all blu-rays will resume. It must be specifically authored onto BD-J discs. No telling if it is. Disney is good about resume. Older Non Java based discs will reume. All BD players will operate the same way.
S~
Oh, thanks. I haven't had a Blu-ray yet, so I wasn't familiar with how it worked and thought it was something about this Panasonic. Thanks for informing me.
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