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post #1891 of 3700
7/3/12 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by morty343 View Post

Apparently another workaround is to set the player's output to PCM. Can anyone tell me if this will lead to equivalent audio quality when choosing 7.1 audio codecs on BDs, as compared to bitstream? I like the assurance of using bitstream and seeing the relevant codec type being displayed on my AVR, rather than just seeing "Multi Ch In" when it's receiving PCM.
I can't see how that would help--you're just shifting decoding of Netflix's DD+ to the BD player. How is it likely that the BD player won't decode the same phenomena you're hearing such that it's audible to you in the PCM output? You've said that you can't hear it in DD+ converted to DD--you could always set the encoded audio output to Bitstream and then turn BD Secondary Audio on, which will get the advance DD formats output as basic DD and the advanced DTS formats output as basic DTS. Of course, that's not very desirable for BD audio.

Also note that for the 220, the maximum PCM output you'll get out of the Dolby formats is 5.1; apparently it will decode the DTS formats into 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 PCM as encoded.
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post #1892 of 3700
7/3/12 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I can't see how that would help--you're just shifting decoding of Netflix's DD+ to the BD player. How is it likely that the BD player won't decode the same phenomena you're hearing such that it's audible to you in the PCM output? You've said that you can't hear it in DD+ converted to DD--you could always set the encoded audio output to Bitstream and then turn BD Secondary Audio on, which will get the advance DD formats output as basic DD and the advanced DTS formats output as basic DTS. Of course, that's not very desirable for BD audio.

Yes it is counter-intuitive, maybe it's related to the part of your reply below. A more remote possibility is that it is an improper implementation of DD+ decoding by Denon; as I experienced it each time on the same model year receiver (but not the same model).
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Also note that for the 220, the maximum PCM output you'll get out of the Dolby formats is 5.1; apparently it will decode the DTS formats into 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 PCM as encoded.

This is helpful to know. Had I learned that PCM offers full 7.1 for both Dolby and DTS, I would have set the BD player for PCM and been done with it. As it sits now, I will use bitstream and connect to the AVR with both HDMI and optical. When I watch disks, I will tell the AVR to use the HDMI audio; when watching Netflix 5.1, I will force it to use optical. A few extra button clicks on the AVR remote, but it's shorter than going into the player's audio setup menu to switch back and forth each time.
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post #1893 of 3700
7/4/12 at 6:48am

Panasonic Smart Apps.

Bought a Panasonic bluray player the 220 from Panasonic Store and was informed by the member of staff I would be able to get BBC Sport and Eurosport apps. Found when I setup the player I cannot get the requested apps. Took back to the store following day spoke to different member of staff and they contacted someone at Panasonic and cannot get the apps I want at the moment on the 220. Was given a refund.
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post #1894 of 3700
7/4/12 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by sbsidlov View Post


Pg 30 of the 220 manual:

PCM Down Conversion

Select how to output audio with a sampling frequency of

96 kHz for the PCM output from the DIGITAL AUDIO OUT.

≥ If On is selected, the signals that are converted to

48 kHz are output.

≥ If Off is selected, and the connected equipment does not

support 96 kHz, the sound will not be output normally.

≥ Signals are converted to 48 kHz despite the settings in the

following cases:

- when the signals have a sampling frequency of 192 kHz

- when the disc has copy protection

- when BD-Video Secondary Audio is set to On

Is this only for optical audio output? I thought hdmi audio was not affected by this.
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post #1895 of 3700
7/4/12 at 1:09pm
Does anyone have any ideas as to why my 320 won't connect to Netflix? I get an error message (u200) after I launch Netflix just as it starts to show the movies in their selection boxes on the screen. Here is what I've tried so far by searching this forum:
updated (successfully) the firmware to 1.39 (connected to internet just fine)
restored unit to factory defaults
powered unit off & let set for a while
made sure that the online video quality setting inside Netflix is set to best
The unit connects fine to the internet (5 bars) and I can access other internet content (youtube, etc.) on the player without a problem. I can access Netflix through other wireless devices in the house just fine (Roku, iTouch). Anyone have any ideas, cause I'm stumped at the moment.
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post #1896 of 3700
7/4/12 at 4:45pm
This is a long shot but has anybody here seen water for elephants bluray. I have some rent version I imagine (Sweden).

My BDT-320 has corruption already in the start menu and it simply don´t work at all. My other bluray players as in Asus BDS-700 and PS3 seem to be able to play it faultlessly until 1h 02 minute and then they don´t want to go along with the ride and get into search mode.

This isn´t the first time I had this type of problem with bluray movies released this year. Just wonder if I am alone with this. I am kind of used to bluray movies just always and always working without issues? (never run bd-live). Doesn´t seem to be player faults as much as bad releases? But why do we get bad releases when bluray format should be matured?
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post #1897 of 3700
7/4/12 at 5:09pm
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the 220 model to automatically output the native resolution the disc is in? So if I'm watching a BD then it should output 1080p, but if I put in a DVD it should output 480p instead of trying to up convert?

I think you can go into the settings and force the output to 480p, etc... but it would be nice for it to output the native format without having to manually adjust it.
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post #1898 of 3700
7/4/12 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post

This is a long shot but has anybody here seen water for elephants bluray. I have some rent version I imagine (Sweden).

My BDT-320 has corruption already in the start menu and it simply don´t work at all. My other bluray players as in Asus BDS-700 and PS3 seem to be able to play it faultlessly until 1h 02 minute and then they don´t want to go along with the ride and get into search mode.

This isn´t the first time I had this type of problem with bluray movies released this year. Just wonder if I am alone with this. I am kind of used to bluray movies just always and always working without issues? (never run bd-live). Doesn´t seem to be player faults as much as bad releases? But why do we get bad releases when bluray format should be matured?
I think your players may be seeing this disk as an illegal disk. That fits with your comment about 2012 releases.
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post #1899 of 3700
7/4/12 at 6:41pm
Has anyone been able to play out of region 3D blurays on a 220? I'm trying to play a UK import of Sammy's Adventure 3D on my player.

When I insert the disc I get the out of region message on the screen. To bypass the message, I did the following:

STOP
1
(wait for 1 to start blinking)
1
ENTER

This starts playing the out of region bluray starts into the movie automatically. I can get to the main menu using Top Menu on the remote, but when I select 3D playback I only get 2D. 2D playback from that menu gives the same results. I've verified on my computer that the disc does have the 3D files on it. I'm not sure if this region bypass method won't work for 3d movies for some reason?

I don't have another 3D import or a non-3d region locked import to test with.

Any ideas?
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post #1900 of 3700
7/5/12 at 12:34am
I recently purchased a 220 and I cannot get any sound when using the optical out connection to a Yamaha RX-V793 receiver. I've confirmed the optical cable works (it plays sound when connected to my cable box), and that the 220 is outputting sound (works through TV speakers). I've tried all combinations of settings (PCM/bitstream, 2ndary audio on/off, etc.) I know the receiver doesn't do DTS, but shouldn't I be able to get sound from DD BDs and/or DVDs?

Thank you for any suggestions.
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post #1901 of 3700
7/5/12 at 2:30am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I think your players may be seeing this disk as an illegal disk. That fits with your comment about 2012 releases.

Cinavia that mess things up? I believe the BDT320 has cinavia am I wrong? But not the Asus BDS-700 and probably not PS3 and Sony BDP-S370 if they havent got it with later firmwares? This is retail copies no backups.
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post #1902 of 3700
7/5/12 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by thefish View Post

I was able to get the network drive working on the 220 (and 110 from last year). First had to setup sharing on windows 7 for specific folder. then on player I entered the ip address of PC, the specific folder name (setup name in advanced sharing), then the user ID and password for logging into windows. connection was no problem. this allowed me to play mkv files over network as those files are not recognized over dnla option (for me at least). So now I can steam mkv over network drive or watch via usb. Hope this helps.

Thanks, after your advice / confirming it works.
I tried again.
This time it worked!
But I'm not sure why.
What I did was to create a new User Account in Windows 7.
Standard User Type.
And gave it a password.

Before all I had was 1 user (administrator) and no password.

I then deleted the Standard User account.
And used the administrator user name and it still worked.
Even though in the past when using the administrator user name, it would not!

I just can not understand it, the administrator user name still has no password.

Anyway thanks again.
I to am playing mkv files.

I also use a USB2 external hardrive (laptop size, self powered).

I have found that HD mkv files work ok over the network.
But only with files less than 9GB (if they are 1hr 30 mins long).
Any larger and you get terrible glitching.

The USB2 drive has no problems, even 13GB files.

I hear it's to do with the speed of the network.

Could also be my computer / router.
The computer is old (since core).
But I shut off the internet and the virus checker and this made no difference.
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post #1903 of 3700
7/5/12 at 5:33am
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Originally Posted by DigitalParasite View Post

Does anyone know if there is a way to get the 220 model to automatically output the native resolution the disc is in? So if I'm watching a BD then it should output 1080p, but if I put in a DVD it should output 480p instead of trying to up convert?
I think you can go into the settings and force the output to 480p, etc... but it would be nice for it to output the native format without having to manually adjust it.

Panasonic does not have direct source option.

S~
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post #1904 of 3700
7/5/12 at 9:18am
Sorry for reposting the same question again. I am curious about the PCM downconversion. I have a panny 220 connected via hdmi to a denon 2311ci. When playing around with my avr, I noticed the audio was being output at 48khz. I read that the 220 can be set to 96khz, if your avr can handle it. Mine can, but I wasn't sure if this applies only to optical audio out or if it includes hdmi connections. Also not sure if it has to do with the encodings on the blu ray disk or dvd. I have played blu rays and have seen tru hd and dts being verified on my avr. Can somebody please clarify this for me? Page 30 of the user manual discusses it a bit, but not in any great detail.
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post #1905 of 3700
7/5/12 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

Sorry for reposting the same question again. I am curious about the PCM downconversion. I have a panny 220 connected via hdmi to a denon 2311ci. When playing around with my avr, I noticed the audio was being output at 48khz. I read that the 220 can be set to 96khz, if your avr can handle it. Mine can, but I wasn't sure if this applies only to optical audio out or if it includes hdmi connections. Also not sure if it has to do with the encodings on the blu ray disk or dvd. I have played blu rays and have seen tru hd and dts being verified on my avr. Can somebody please clarify this for me? Page 30 of the user manual discusses it a bit, but not in any great detail.

It has everything to do with the encoding of the media. The Panasonic can actually handle up to 192k. Anyways, for BD/DVD, the majority are 16/24bit @48k. There is a japanese title that does have 192k. I don't remember the title. It came up in one of the old Panasonic threads 2-3 years ago.

S~
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post #1906 of 3700
7/5/12 at 10:07am
Thanks, teach. So, I do not have to set my PCM downconversion to anything? I can only assume that with an hdmi connection, it will automatically go to the format of the disc. Then again, I have learned not to assume anything when it comes to hdmi!
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post #1907 of 3700
7/5/12 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by hack354674 View Post

Thanks, after your advice / confirming it works.
I tried again.
This time it worked!
But I'm not sure why.
What I did was to create a new User Account in Windows 7.
Standard User Type.
And gave it a password.
Before all I had was 1 user (administrator) and no password.
I then deleted the Standard User account.
And used the administrator user name and it still worked.
Even though in the past when using the administrator user name, it would not!
I just can not understand it, the administrator user name still has no password.
Anyway thanks again.
I to am playing mkv files.
I also use a USB2 external hardrive (laptop size, self powered).
I have found that HD mkv files work ok over the network.
But only with files less than 9GB (if they are 1hr 30 mins long).
Any larger and you get terrible glitching.
The USB2 drive has no problems, even 13GB files.
I hear it's to do with the speed of the network.
Could also be my computer / router.
The computer is old (since core).
But I shut off the internet and the virus checker and this made no difference.

Glad to know it starting working. personally, I am about to give up on my 220. I demoed the LG BP620 this week and it plays dnla (serviio and nero) so much better than the panasonic. I have had no stuttering or lag with the LG so far. And the UI is much easier to navigate on the LG than the Panny - FF/RW in files is smooth and you can jump to minutes marks using options.. LG can even do slideshows with music. As far as I can tell, the PQ is the same on bluray and dvd. Not that the primary purpose of these is streaming, but it is nice to have it built in rather than use another box. I also demoed the WDLive but the lag between files on home video clips was longer than the LG and Panny.
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post #1908 of 3700
7/5/12 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

Thanks, teach. So, I do not have to set my PCM downconversion to anything? I can only assume that with an hdmi connection, it will automatically go to the format of the disc. Then again, I have learned not to assume anything when it comes to hdmi!

PCM downconversion applies to output to a 2 channel source (i.e. television).

S~
Edited by teachsac - 7/5/12 at 10:52am
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post #1909 of 3700
7/5/12 at 11:07am
Thanks!
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post #1910 of 3700
7/5/12 at 11:54am
Since I haven't seen anybody post this as of late, does the "Youtube" app on this thing able to playback HD vids? I'm having issues with my Samsung BD-E5700, which plays youtube HD vids very well, but other issues are preventing me from keeping it. I was looking @ the 220, but if no "HD" playback from youtube app, it would mean I will have to look elsewhere.
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post #1911 of 3700
7/5/12 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

... but if no "HD" playback from youtube app, it would mean I will have to look elsewhere.
You will have to look elsewhere. YouTube has a common embedded UI that you'll find on some platforms (I cannot for the life of me remember what it's called); it recently appeared on TiVo and it plays at least 720p video.
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post #1912 of 3700
7/5/12 at 3:05pm
When the 220 is hooked up to a 1080p display, is it recommended to set "HDMI Resolution" to Auto? The display is the Mitsubishi HC3800 projector. Thanks
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post #1913 of 3700
7/5/12 at 3:12pm
I leave it at auto. It will automatically output the resolution of the display.

S~
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post #1914 of 3700
7/7/12 at 6:35am
Identical problem with my 220 - won't connect to Netflix - connects to YouTube etc., and other devices in the house connect to Netflx just fine. I don't know if it's related, but recently installed firmware 1.39.

Update: Panasonic customer service says they are having a Netflix server issue.
Edited by rrldtx - 7/7/12 at 7:45am
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post #1915 of 3700
7/7/12 at 2:54pm
Netflix has worked fine with my 220 today. I am on the west coast -- on the east coast there have been Amazon EC2 issues recently due to the power outages which may contribute to Netflix issues.
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post #1916 of 3700
7/8/12 at 2:27pm
I cant get Netflix either and still on 1.31 firmware. Updated to 1.39 and still no go. First problem ive had with my 220
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post #1917 of 3700
7/8/12 at 2:52pm
Seems that we should be able to debug this problem ourselves among this forum as there are enough people with different experiences. I'd love to get to the bottom of this since it's working great for me and I am very happy with the picture and DD+ sound quality. If everyone could post the following, we can make a nice statistical table that should give us some insight:

Firmware version
Wired or Wireless
If Wireless, is double speed on
Netflix "manage video quality" setting for your account (on the website in the account section)
Have you tried deregistering app from the Netflix error screen (up/up/down/down/left/right/left/right/up/up/up/up)
City / state / country

Any other items you think are relevant, please add to the list -- I wouldn't know since I've never experienced the problem. I will start with my information:

1.39
Wired
N/A
Best
No
Sunnyvale, California, USA
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post #1918 of 3700
7/8/12 at 7:27pm
Just did a factory reset from page31 of the manual and signed back in to netflix and now it works again.
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post #1919 of 3700
7/8/12 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by aiyagari View Post

Seems that we should be able to debug this problem ourselves among this forum as there are enough people with different experiences. I'd love to get to the bottom of this since it's working great for me and I am very happy with the picture and DD+ sound quality. If everyone could post the following, we can make a nice statistical table that should give us some insight:
Firmware version
Wired or Wireless
If Wireless, is double speed on
Netflix "manage video quality" setting for your account (on the website in the account section)
Have you tried deregistering app from the Netflix error screen (up/up/down/down/left/right/left/right/up/up/up/up)
City / state / country
Any other items you think are relevant, please add to the list -- I wouldn't know since I've never experienced the problem.
How about, "Have you had/are currently having a problem with Netflix? If so, describe it. If fixed, give solution" as the first questions on the list? For me:

1. Had a problem, but fixed it.
2. Netflix dropped my registration and its log-in dialog was screwed up, making it nearly impossible to re-register.
3. The page 31 reset fixed it.
4. Firmware V1.39
5. Wired
6. N/A
7. Never set--nothing selected
8. Yes, it fixed my problem
9. San Diego / CA / United States
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post #1920 of 3700
7/9/12 at 2:03am
The blueray with 192 khz encoding is Akira (2009 version). B001LMU182 It's around $150 new now, and $50-60 used; original list was $44. It's a single disk without the special booklet..
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