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post #211 of 3700
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

The DISPLAY button is a no-op on my 220. No reaction to pressing it at all.

EDIT: I'd look to see whether the manual had a label for that button in its picture of the remote but of course I can't find it .

I found the manual. At a glance I thought that the new remote was identical (though I'd noticed that its part number wasn't) and it turns out that it isn't quite the same. The red NETFLIX button has been moved to where the DISPLAY button was; the AUDIO button was moved down to where NETFLIX was and the button where AUDIO was is now PIP, which is labelled as toggling secondary video on and off. The round button just above the red button at the bottom was labelled SUB MENU and is now labelled OPTION (I'd read instructions to push the OPTION button in the manual wondered what the hell they were talking about. There is no button labelled SUB MENU now so the code may be the same.

I think that OPTION is the same code as the old SUB MENU. I thought that PIP might be the same code as the old DISPLAY but the player does respond to PIP--on the disc in my drive (the T2 BD) it just pops up a message that the operation is not allowed by the disc. What comes up when you press OPTION is similar to what popped up on the BDT110, only bigger and more colorful. It does not have the Playback Information tab.

I really, really wish that they'd get a PDF copy of the manual up. I'm used to being able to run a text search on the digital copy.
post #212 of 3700
I can't post links yet so I will tell you how to see it.
Just go to panasonics website. Look at the DMP-BDT210 model and open the link for that manual.
Then in the address bar of your browser change the part of the address that has 210 and make it 220 then the 220 manual will show up.
post #213 of 3700
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Originally Posted by booboo357 View Post

I can't post links yet so I will tell you how to see it.
Just go to panasonics website. Look at the DMP-BDT210 model and open the link for that manual.
Then in the address bar of your browser change the part of the address that has 210 and make it 220 then the 220 manual will show up.

That worked. Here's a direct link to the 220's PDF manual:

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...BDT220-MUL.PDF

I really liked the display option on the previous generations, from a look at the manual it seems like it is gone
It seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth to remove a little feature like that, which has been in their player's UI since their first BD player models. So now how are you supposed to see the time left of a DVD/Blu-ray title/chapter?

This makes a bit cranky, I really like Panny players I have two 2011 models right now (and I've had 2008 and 2010 model year players previously), but I don't think I have any need to go to a 2012 model, the Netflix black flicker thing is annoying so I was thinking about replacing my main player in the living room with a 2012 model... but I don't know if I'll be in any hurry. Panny's remotes have gotten more annoying and dumbed down over the last two years, I still have my BD65's remote which could be programmed with to control the volume of another brand of TV or receiver and not be locked into Panasonic only. I'm sad they did away with that feature in the 2011 and newer models...
post #214 of 3700
is there any penny player with dvd audio? I still have a few
post #215 of 3700
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Originally Posted by booboo357 View Post

I can't post links yet so I will tell you how to see it.
Just go to panasonics website. Look at the DMP-BDT210 model and open the link for that manual.
Then in the address bar of your browser change the part of the address that has 210 and make it 220 then the 220 manual will show up.

Thanks for that--now I have a copy. Sadly there's no copy of the 320 manual that I can see. I guess you can't have everything.
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Originally Posted by SpHeRe31459 View Post

I really liked the display option on the previous generations, from a look at the manual it seems like it is gone
It seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth to remove a little feature like that, which has been in their player's UI since their first BD player models.

The BDT110 did not have the playback info display--only the 210 and 310 did. It seemed kind of petty to omit the feature to distinguish the more expensive products, but they did it. I really think that the BDT220 is more a successor to the BDT110 than the BDT210 and that the BDT320 is sort of the new 210. I suspect that all of the other players will have the playback info display--thebat68 says that the 320 does.
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So now how are you supposed to see the time left of a DVD/Blu-ray title/chapter?

Doesn't the STATUS display give you that information? EDIT: I answered my own question--that just shows title number, chapter number, elapsed time in title and total time in title. No remaining times.
post #216 of 3700
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

is there any penny player with dvd audio? I still have a few

No. You'll need to go with one of the universal players like Oppo.

S~
post #217 of 3700
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Thanks for that--now I have a copy. Sadly there's no copy of the 320 manual that I can see. I guess you can't have everything.
The BDT110 did not have the playback info display--only the 210 and 310 did.

I have a 110 in my living room and 210 in my bedroom, I just realized I'm not sure I understand what playback info you're refering too. Since both show times when you hit STATUS I use that the most. I've not found much use for DISPLAY except for occasionally checking on the current audio track and playing around with the video processing options on poorer quality DVD discs. I didn't think the 110 and 210 had any significant differences to their core firmware, of course the 210 has built-in Wi-Fi (and a couple of dubious audio features like the "tube amp" simulation mode).

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It seemed like a piddling to add to the feature distinguishing the more expensive products, but they did it. I really think that the BDT220 is more a successor to the BDT110 than the BDT210 and that the BDT320 is sort of the new 210.

Yep Panasonic seems to have inflated the numbers this time, the 220 is definitely considered the 110's replacement given their same MSRP at introduction, this time they just included Wi-Fi for the same price, so it got a "2" in the product number like their previous Wi-Fi players. I'm interested to see what people think of the 320's trackpad remote, it seems like it would be a bit odd to use over proper hard buttons.
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I suspect that all of the other players will have the playback info display--thebat68 says that the 320 does.Doesn't the STATUS display give you that information? EDIT: I answered my own question--that just shows title number, chapter number, elapsed time in title and total time in title. No remaining times.

I've always used STATUS since it shows graphically what's left in the current title. I've never seen an explicit time remining display on any of my Pannys, but I've also never gone looking since I can find what I need in the status.
post #218 of 3700
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Originally Posted by SpHeRe31459 View Post

I've always used STATUS since it shows graphically what's left in the current title. I've never seen an explicit time remining display on any of my Pannys, but I've also never gone looking since I can find what I need in the status.

I was just trying to answer your question from back here:
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Originally Posted by SpHeRe31459 View Post

So now how are you supposed to see the time left of a DVD/Blu-ray title/chapter?

I took that to mean that the playback information display includes some kind of remaining time display.

I personally like remaining time displays and I'm surprised that this player doesn't implement one, but I rarely watch discs so I haven't really missed it.
post #219 of 3700
Doesn't pressing the STATUS button multiple times change the displayed information?

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Originally Posted by SpHeRe31459 View Post

I have a 110 in my living room and 210 in my bedroom, I just realized I'm not sure I understand what playback info you're refering too. Since both show times when you hit STATUS I use that the most. I've not found much use for DISPLAY except for occasionally checking on the current audio track and playing around with the video processing options on poorer quality DVD discs. I didn't think the 110 and 210 had any significant differences to their core firmware, of course the 210 has built-in Wi-Fi (and a couple of dubious audio features like the "tube amp" simulation mode).

Yep Panasonic seems to have inflated the numbers this time, the 220 is definitely considered the 110's replacement given their same MSRP at introduction, this time they just included Wi-Fi for the same price, so it got a "2" in the product number like their previous Wi-Fi players. I'm interested to see what people think of the 320's trackpad remote, it seems like it would be a bit odd to use over proper hard buttons.

I've always used STATUS since it shows graphically what's left in the current title. I've never seen an explicit time remining display on any of my Pannys, but I've also never gone looking since I can find what I need in the status.
post #220 of 3700
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Originally Posted by sbsidlov View Post

Doesn't pressing the STATUS button multiple times change the displayed information?

Not really. You press STATUS once and it tells you what its doing in a little square (like "BD/PLAY"); you press it a second time and it shows the time bar; press it a third time and it goes away.
post #221 of 3700
I'm having a problem with Netflix on the 220--no matter what I try to play it gives me "We're having trouble playing this title right now. Please try again later or select a different title". It was happening last night but I thought that some Panasonic gateway to Netflix might be down but it's still happening. I'm going to hook my 110 back up and see if it's having the same problem.

EDIT: Well, so much for that theory--the 110 works just fine, as does VUDU on the 220. I suppose that I have little choice but to deactivate all of my devices and reactivate this one. It was working fine a couple of days ago. I really hope that the firmware update didn't do this.
post #222 of 3700
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Originally Posted by Brandenborg View Post


Edit: I have a 110 (2011) and it is almost completely silent, except when loading and spinning up a disc. I have no experience with 2012 models.

I have 2 110s that I have had for close to a year and they are horrible with noise because there is a high pitched whine that happens at various areas while it reads a blu-ray disc and it is better/worse depending on the position one sits from the player since you can either be in a bad spot of that frequency's soundwave or a good spot. With one of my players I am in a somewhat decent spot and the other I am in a horrible spot where it is very annoying from 12 feet away. Turning one's head also factors into how annoying this sound is.

Note that this whine seems to only happen on blu-rays and it isn't continual throughout the playback and I believe happens more near the first handful of chapters on a disc and the last. It's also not the same pattern from disc to disc as some barely cause the player to make the sound.

This isn't simply a situation of getting a replacement (just do a search here and on the web and you'll see many people mention this) as it is quite clearly the BD drive they used in these machines and the fact there is no fan to help cover this sound up. If you and others who own the X10 line of players can't hear this and have your players outside of a closed cabinet then all the power to you people although you may want to go get a hearing test done since you may have a bit of a hearing loss of some higher frequencies...it is THAT obvious.

Aside from that damn noise, I think the BDT110 is a great player and the picture quality is fantastic.

I'd easily buy a 220 or 320 if Panasonic changed the drives in them to eliminate this sound. Hopefully someone who is annoyed by this sound with the last line of players will buy one of these new units and report that they are free of this high pitched sound.
post #223 of 3700
^^
Thanks. I believe you, I do.

As I wrote to another poster, I think there is a difference between units, some are less perfectly balanced and hence more noisy. At this price range I would expect that QA is one of the areas where they save. I don't know why this is so hard to believe, when obviously people have different experiences.

I compare it to other players, including my older Oppo, and the Panny is still the most quiet.

In any case, posting your personal experience, as you do here, is valuable. Claiming that all Panasonic players are bad, including models you never tried (not you, audio/videoman), was what prompted my response earlier.
post #224 of 3700
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I'm having a problem with Netflix on the 220--no matter what I try to play it gives me "We're having trouble playing this title right now. Please try again later or select a different title". It was happening last night but I thought that some Panasonic gateway to Netflix might be down but it's still happening. I'm going to hook my 110 back up and see if it's having the same problem.

EDIT: Well, so much for that theory--the 110 works just fine, as does VUDU on the 220. I suppose that I have little choice but to deactivate all of my devices and reactivate this one. It was working fine a couple of days ago. I really hope that the firmware update didn't do this.

Well, no such luck--I deactivated all devices and reactivated 220 and it's still broken. Is anyone else with a 220 having this problem?
post #225 of 3700
I got my DMP-BDT320 today. First task was to update firmware. I checked out Netflix and watched Transformers DoM 3D already. So far, so good.

This thing is about half the depth of my BD65K it replaced. The touchpad remote takes some getting used to. It is exactly like a laptop touchpad, but IMO a little overly sensitive to the taps. It took me a while to get my Netflix login in. I probably won't use this remote much though, and since my Harmony 700 didn't recognize the 320 as a device yet, I used the 310 and everything works fine.

I was thinking about an Oppo, but I don't listen to music through my player so I couldn't pass on this price range.
post #226 of 3700
I'm getting tired of the long load times on my bdt100 and am considering an upgrade.

Since panasonic's site doesn't have the new players listed yet, can anyone give me an opinion (or a link explaining the differences) on whether the 320 is worth the extra money over the 220 and exactly what the differences are?

The one thing I don't like about the 320 is the trapezoid shape; I will probably go with the 220 unless there's a feature that it's completely missing.
post #227 of 3700
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Originally Posted by jhm_vbnl View Post

What I am most interested in is if Panasonic has fixed the bug where analog audio was disabled when playing 1080/24p material. I returned my 310 because of that. So if anyone could test that, I would be grateful.

THIS! I had to return a 210 as well because there was no audio output over analog!
post #228 of 3700
Does anyone's Netflix have audio lag issue? Yesterday was the first time I was watching netflix and there was a lag. If you put subtitles on, the lag is worse. Would it have to to anything with internet connection? Mine isnt that bad. 20 mbits
post #229 of 3700
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Originally Posted by ozer19 View Post

Does anyone's Netflix have audio lag issue? Yesterday was the first time I was watching netflix and there was a lag. If you put subtitles on, the lag is worse. Would it have to to anything with internet connection? Mine isnt that bad. 20 mbits

No Netflix issues. No black flashes, no audio synch issues and is 1080p.
post #230 of 3700
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

Thanks for your answers! I use the Harmony 880 so hopefully it should continue to work with the newer models of players? I'm also waiting on the 500 model for the twin HDMIs because I have an older receiver that doesn't support 3D.

I'm using a Harmony One with the new 220. Harmony did not ave the 220 in their database yet, so I just used the 210 and everything is working fine.
post #231 of 3700
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Originally Posted by lonestarwings View Post

I'm getting tired of the long load times on my bdt100 and am considering an upgrade.

Since panasonic's site doesn't have the new players listed yet, can anyone give me an opinion (or a link explaining the differences) on whether the 320 is worth the extra money over the 220 and exactly what the differences are?

The one thing I don't like about the 320 is the trapezoid shape; I will probably go with the 220 unless there's a feature that it's completely missing.

If you go to this link on Amazon for the 220 and scroll down there is a grid showing features with the different models.
post #232 of 3700
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Originally Posted by Weaselboy View Post

If you go to this link on Amazon for the 220 and scroll down there is a grid showing features with the different models.

It appears like the BDT500 has not come out yet because when you click on the link, no page containing the player comes up.
post #233 of 3700
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

It appears like the BDT500 has not come out yet because when you click on the link, no page containing the players comes up.

The 500's not due out until May. There was a similar delay in the launch of the 310 last year. Perhaps it'll make it to market earlier, since the 220 and 320 did.
post #234 of 3700
Is anyone else with a 220 having a problem with Netflix?
post #235 of 3700
I just hooked up my new 220, and I need some help with settings.

1) Chroma Process - Off, Normal or Advanced ?

2) Detail Clarity - Zero or something else ?

3) HDMI Color Mode - 4:4:4, 4:2:2, RGB Standard, or RGB Enhanced ?



Thanks very much.
post #236 of 3700
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

I just hooked up my new 220, and I need some help with settings. Do 4 and 5 matter when using HDMI ?

1) Chroma Process - Off, Normal or Advanced ?

2) Detail Clarity - Zero or something else ?

3) HDMI Color Mode - 4:4:4, 4:2:2, RGB Standard, or RGB Enhanced ?

4) PCM Down Conversion - Off or On ?

5) Downmix - Stereo or Surround Encoded ?

Thanks very much.

only if you have HDMI set to PCM. If you have HDMI set to bitstream, then they don't matter.
post #237 of 3700
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Originally Posted by Weaselboy View Post

If you go to this link on Amazon for the 220 and scroll down there is a grid showing features with the different models.

Thanks! Looks like I will be ok with a 220.
post #238 of 3700
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Is anyone else with a 220 having a problem with Netflix?

I am having audio lag issue and pisses me off
post #239 of 3700
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

only if you have HDMI set to PCM. If you have HDMI set to bitstream, then they don't matter.

Thanks moxie1617.
post #240 of 3700
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

I just hooked up my new 220, and I need some help with settings. Do 4 and 5 matter when using HDMI ?

1) Chroma Process - Off, Normal or Advanced ?

2) Detail Clarity - Zero or something else ?

3) HDMI Color Mode - 4:4:4, 4:2:2, RGB Standard, or RGB Enhanced ?

Thanks very much.

Anyone ?
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