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post #2101 of 4169
I definitely recommend the 220. It is the quietest of 3 blu ray players I've owned: it's quieter than the sony 590, and that's a very quiet player also. Upscaling is very, very good. Plus, you'll want the 220 for any streaming you do: netflix is in 1080 now.
post #2102 of 4169
Does the 220 still have Netflix issues, or has that been patched?
post #2103 of 4169
Hello, I'm thinking of getting one of these, but there are SO many reviews saying Netflix is terrible on it. Did the 1.39 firmware improve Netflix performance?
post #2104 of 4169
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Originally Posted by bennyjk View Post

Hello, I'm thinking of getting one of these, but there are SO many reviews saying Netflix is terrible on it. Did the 1.39 firmware improve Netflix performance?

Netflix was working perfectly for me until the 1.39 FW update. Since then it will lose wifi connection right in the middle of streaming and the players has to be shut off and back on as it doesn't recognize the connection.

Amazing that this problem has been going on so long and Panny can't fix it.
post #2105 of 4169
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Originally Posted by gary50 View Post

Netflix was working perfectly for me until the 1.39 FW update.
Oh, that sucks. Did you do the factor reset thing after the FW update?
post #2106 of 4169
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Originally Posted by gary50 View Post

Netflix was working perfectly for me until the 1.39 FW update. Since then it will lose wifi connection right in the middle of streaming and the players has to be shut off and back on as it doesn't recognize the connection.
Amazing that this problem has been going on so long and Panny can't fix it.

A way around it is to connect the 220 and router via ethernet cable? I don't have a problem with that - plus streaming might be a little bit faster.
post #2107 of 4169
My first 220 had all sorts of Blu-Ray blackback issues. Brought it back and the second had the same issues. Would lock up at the exact same places as the first player. Looked mainly to be Fox titles for some reason. My PS3 plays back the same movies with no issues. Time to try a different brand.
post #2108 of 4169
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Originally Posted by bennyjk View Post

Oh, that sucks. Did you do the factor reset thing after the FW update?
I personally wouldn't worry too much about problems seen by individuals (unless there were a large number of individuals reporting it). I haven't seen the problem he reports--if it was something caused by the update that would manifest for everyone everywhere you'd expect Panasonic's regression and/or beta testing to have found it.

In regards to the BDT220's performance in Netflix the principle problem is UI responsiveness. It's response to commands is pretty sluggish as compared to some, though usable. On the other hand, it starts streams faster than some others I've used with smoother UI navigation.
post #2109 of 4169
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Originally Posted by bennyjk View Post

Oh, that sucks. Did you do the factor reset thing after the FW update?


Yes, I did the reset and the problem still exits. Never had one problem prior to the update.
post #2110 of 4169
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Originally Posted by bennyjk View Post

Oh, that sucks. Did you do the factor reset thing after the FW update?

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Originally Posted by whoisyuri View Post

A way around it is to connect the 220 and router via ethernet cable? I don't have a problem with that - plus streaming might be a little bit faster.

Unfortunately, I can't connect via ethernet cable. Not not possible for me.
post #2111 of 4169
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Originally Posted by phunyguy View Post

OK, so I bought the 320 this weekend, and here is what I am running into. It is driving me crazy!
Playing MKV files from USB works flawlessly.
Playing those same MKV files from a network share (Tried Windows XP, 7 and Ubuntu 12.04) is VERY slow. 720p content chokes up every few minutes, and 1080p content is just horribly slow. I look on the fileserver end, and the network is only hitting about 1.5-2.0MB/s. It is a 100 meg connection from client to server, and just one switch in between. I even tried my laptop directly connected with a crossover cable, and just a couple link-local addresses to remove anything else from the network, same thing. My guess is their CIFS implementation cannot handle the I/O required to play the files.
So I tried DLNA with PS3MediaServer, uShare, MediaTomb, and even Windows Media Player. The Bluray player wont even touch the MKVs with either of them serving it up. It is just an immediate "Cannot Play" without even an attempt. FLAC will play with everything, with no transcoding, and when Transcoding MKVs with PS3MediaServer, it produces a green garbled mess of randomness.
What in the world is going on here? I contacted Panasonic Support 3 times, and each time they say that if it can play via USB, then it should play via DLNA just fine, and they tested/designed it with WMP in mind for serving up the files. They even tested it on the phone with me and it worked fine for them on their end.
I tried putting just the video in an MP4 container, and it played that via DLNA flawlessly with the network peaking up to 3-4MB/s as needed.
Is anyone else having these same issues? I am ready to throw this thing back in the box and send it back to Amazon.
mad.gifmad.gifconfused.gif

If you don't mind trying yet another server, try Serviio. It has worked pretty well for me in the past, but I have yet to try it on my 220 because my media center is a mess while I rewire everything. I will try it myself in the next 24 and try to come back with my results.
post #2112 of 4169
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Originally Posted by bennyjk View Post

Oh, that sucks. Did you do the factor reset thing after the FW update?

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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I personally wouldn't worry too much about problems seen by individuals (unless there were a large number of individuals reporting it). I haven't seen the problem he reports--if it was something caused by the update that would manifest for everyone everywhere you'd expect Panasonic's regression and/or beta testing to have found it.
In regards to the BDT220's performance in Netflix the principle problem is UI responsiveness. It's response to commands is pretty sluggish as compared to some, though usable. On the other hand, it starts streams faster than some others I've used with smoother UI navigation.

Others have reported the same problem after the update. I don't understand why everyone doesn't have this issue but there were others who posted the same issue on here.
post #2113 of 4169
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Originally Posted by gary50 View Post

Others have reported the same problem after the update. I don't understand why everyone doesn't have this issue but there were others who posted the same issue on here.
I understand. Others reporting it doesn't imply to me that large numbers of people will see the same problem. Only the people with the problem will report it; people who aren't seeing it won't report that they aren't seeing it.

Anyone else using Netflix on the BDT220 and not seeing gary50's post 1.39 update problem?
post #2114 of 4169
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Originally Posted by Ingeborgdot View Post

If anyone would care to help I would greatly appreciate it. If not, that is fine also. I have been looking for some setting questions but must have missed some. I have found some but need some more advice.
I have a Denon 3808CI and a Pansonic projector 3000. I first was wondering if anyone with those items have set their video and audio?
I was looking for sure to see what most have done for the
Picture Mode
Chroma Process
Detail clarity
Super Resolution
HDMI output
Black Level
For audio I have sound effects off, dialog enhancer off, dynamic range compression off, Dolby D/ Dolby D+ etc to bitstream, DTS etc to bitstream, secondary audio off,
PCM down conversion off BUT what should the downmix be? stereo or surround encoded?
If there are any setting you see I should change or anything special you think a person needs to do, please let me know. Thanks.
If anyone would even just steer me in the right direction I would be truly grateful.
post #2115 of 4169
I am having the same problem after the update. I have to unplug the DVD player then reset the wireless to get Netflix streaming again.
post #2116 of 4169
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Originally Posted by darinf View Post

Is there a way to resume or skip to a specific time when playing files via USB?
I have a BDT320 and I finally figured out how to format MKV files so they will play, but if I stop a movie in the middle, I can't figure out a way to resume watching where I left off.
If I try to fast forward, the fastest it will fast forward is maybe 2x but it's stops and stutters at about the same speed regardless of how fast I try to fast forward.
It would take a LONG time to get to an hour or more into the movie.
Is there a way to resume or jump to a particular time, etc.?
Thanks.
P.S. I just tried to resume, and it will resume playback, BUT once you try to play another file, you lose the resume info for the previous file. So I tried just re-starting the movie and pressing fast forward. It fast forwarded about 10 minutes into the movie and then quite out to the file list.
That's a real pain. So there's no way for me to get back to the middle of the movie without just letting it play for an hour or more to get back to where I was? That's not really useable. I am surprised no one has mentioned this unless I am missing the search or skip feature.

I can't believe no one finds this to be a problem. Or maybe everyone knows it's an issue, but there's nothing that can be done about it.

So, I went to bed last night after watching 1 hour of a 2 hour movie.

Now I want to finish watching the movie. I have to start at the beginning and wait 1 hour before I can resume watching where I left off. Pretty sad if you ask me. I rarely have a full two hours to watch a movie from start to finish.

I guess I need to find another player...
post #2117 of 4169
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Panasonic can only play MPEG2, MKV and WMV. Non-US players can also play Divx. I would say MKV is optimum since it has the best PQ at high compression, and the codec is free.

Thank you so much!!

Anyone with a recommendation for the best free/affordable file conversion software i can use to convert all my mp4/avi/mov files into MKV so I can play them on my panny via USB?
post #2118 of 4169
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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo View Post

Thank you so much!!
Anyone with a recommendation for the best free/affordable file conversion software i can use to convert all my mp4/avi/mov files into MKV so I can play them on my panny via USB?
MakeMKV is popular. I'm not sure about the capabilities. IMO life is too short to convert all my files when a different player or DLNA server will play everything as-is with no effort.
post #2119 of 4169
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Originally Posted by parry View Post

Does BDT220 have a web browser inbuilt or not?
No, but sony and samsung do.
post #2120 of 4169
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Originally Posted by darinf View Post

I can't believe no one finds this to be a problem. Or maybe everyone knows it's an issue, but there's nothing that can be done about it.
So, I went to bed last night after watching 1 hour of a 2 hour movie.
Now I want to finish watching the movie. I have to start at the beginning and wait 1 hour before I can resume watching where I left off. Pretty sad if you ask me. I rarely have a full two hours to watch a movie from start to finish.
I guess I need to find another player...

That does sound incredibly lame. I've never used this type of streaming, but think about how it would have to work. The player can only work with the data sent to it. How does it ask the server sending the video data to skip ahead or send only every 10th block or whatever? Is this a problem with limited functionality on the server end? Are there better servers available? How does somebody like Netflix do it?
post #2121 of 4169
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Originally Posted by darinf View Post

Is there a way to resume or skip to a specific time when playing files via USB?
I have a BDT320 and I finally figured out how to format MKV files so they will play, but if I stop a movie in the middle, I can't figure out a way to resume watching where I left off.
If I try to fast forward, the fastest it will fast forward is maybe 2x but it's stops and stutters at about the same speed regardless of how fast I try to fast forward.
It would take a LONG time to get to an hour or more into the movie.
Is there a way to resume or jump to a particular time, etc.?
Thanks.
P.S. I just tried to resume, and it will resume playback, BUT once you try to play another file, you lose the resume info for the previous file. So I tried just re-starting the movie and pressing fast forward. It fast forwarded about 10 minutes into the movie and then quite out to the file list.
That's a real pain. So there's no way for me to get back to the middle of the movie without just letting it play for an hour or more to get back to where I was? That's not really useable. I am surprised no one has mentioned this unless I am missing the search or skip feature.

Sorry to keep bringing up this issue, but I confirmed with Panasonic tech support that there is no way to skip forward when watching a movie on a USB hard drive. I assume the same holds true for anything streaming.

Last night I wanted to finish watching the 2nd half of a two hour movie on my USB hard drive. I knew I had to plan an hour in advance, so I started the playback, and then made sure I came back an hour later so I could finish watching the rest of the movie.

I guess I have to write an app that keeps track of where I left off watching a movie and then sets a timer when I start the movie the next time. Then when the alarm goes off, I know I have to go back to to my TV so I can finish watching my movie. eek.gif

(Good thing I can still get a refund for my BDT320.)
Edited by darinf - 8/15/12 at 10:20am
post #2122 of 4169
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Originally Posted by L David Matheny View Post

That does sound incredibly lame. I've never used this type of streaming, but think about how it would have to work. The player can only work with the data sent to it. How does it ask the server sending the video data to skip ahead or send only every 10th block or whatever? Is this a problem with limited functionality on the server end? Are there better servers available? How does somebody like Netflix do it?

I am not talking about streaming. I am talking about playing back a file from a hard drive connected to the USB on the BDT320.

There is NO technical reason why a player can't jump to a specific part of a file. Can you imagine if that were the case with all computer files on drives?

For streaming, yes, it's up to the server to be able to handle requests to jump to a specific part of a file, but ultimately that's not a problem since the file is always local to the server that's serving up the file. Yes, the server software has to be written to be able to do that.

I don't use Netflix, but I assume there has to be a way to skip to a particular point in a movie even when streaming from Netflix.

Can anyone confirm that you don't have to always start watching a movie from the beginning when streaming on Netflix?

-Darin
post #2123 of 4169
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Originally Posted by Gondola View Post

If you don't mind trying yet another server, try Serviio. It has worked pretty well for me in the past, but I have yet to try it on my 220 because my media center is a mess while I rewire everything. I will try it myself in the next 24 and try to come back with my results.

I have, it did the same thing. Says "Cannot Play" and that's it. Doesn't even try.
post #2124 of 4169
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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo View Post

Thank you so much!!
Anyone with a recommendation for the best free/affordable file conversion software i can use to convert all my mp4/avi/mov files into MKV so I can play them on my panny via USB?

Check out HandBrake, it can do everything you need with a pretty intuitive interface.
post #2125 of 4169
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Originally Posted by Gracepreacher View Post

So I'm seeing conflicting reports in terms of comparing DVD upscaling between the last few generations of Panasonic players. Does anyone that has had experience with a BD 65/85, BDT 110/210, and/or BDT220/320 care to weigh in? I am generally hearing that BD quality is going to be about the same, so at least that is consistent (though I realize load times have improved with time). I'm wondering if I could save a few bucks and grab a used BD65/85 and be just as happy for my occasional DVD and BD needs. Anymore, the bulk of my watching is streaming and I'm covered there with a Roku XS. The DVD upscaling is important though, because I do have quite a few DVD's that I'd like to milk for all they are worth.

Anyone? Comments on DVD upscaling PQ over the past few years of Panasonics?
post #2126 of 4169
I have a question about the ARC capabilities of the 220, and maybe about ARC capabilities in general.

I have an old receiver that I plan to connect to the TV to play sound for movies, TV and games. This is easy for the movies and games, because those sources have analog outputs (my receiver only has analog inputs). However, the TV I've just purchased, the Panasonic ST50, doesn't have analog RCA outputs. I think it has a headphone jack maybe.

I understand that ARC typically sends audio upstream back to a receiver, but could it instead stream back to the 220, and then to the receiver? That would be nifty and solve a lot of problems.

Thanks for your help, everyone.
post #2127 of 4169
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Originally Posted by lorkp View Post

I have a question about the ARC capabilities of the 220, and maybe about ARC capabilities in general.
I have an old receiver that I plan to connect to the TV to play sound for movies, TV and games. This is easy for the movies and games, because those sources have analog outputs (my receiver only has analog inputs). However, the TV I've just purchased, the Panasonic ST50, doesn't have analog RCA outputs. I think it has a headphone jack maybe.
I understand that ARC typically sends audio upstream back to a receiver, but could it instead stream back to the 220, and then to the receiver? That would be nifty and solve a lot of problems.
Thanks for your help, everyone.
Sounds like your receiver won't support ARC if it's more than a few years old. I'm a little confused by what you are trying to do, but if you are just trying to get the TV sound to the receiver, check your receiver for an optical input because your ST50 should have it...looks like this (The one on the right):

http://img.tfd.com/cde/_TOSLINK.JPG
post #2128 of 4169
Lorkp, please post the make and model of your receiver. Sounds like you're trying to do this the hard way.
post #2129 of 4169
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Originally Posted by Gracepreacher View Post

So I'm seeing conflicting reports in terms of comparing DVD upscaling between the last few generations of Panasonic players. Does anyone that has had experience with a BD 65/85, BDT 110/210, and/or BDT220/320 care to weigh in? I am generally hearing that BD quality is going to be about the same, so at least that is consistent (though I realize load times have improved with time). I'm wondering if I could save a few bucks and grab a used BD65/85 and be just as happy for my occasional DVD and BD needs. Anymore, the bulk of my watching is streaming and I'm covered there with a Roku XS. The DVD upscaling is important though, because I do have quite a few DVD's that I'd like to milk for all they are worth.
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Originally Posted by Gracepreacher View Post

Anyone? Comments on DVD upscaling PQ over the past few years of Panasonics?

The 85 has the newer Unipher processor while the 65 didn't. The 210 is an upgraded processor over the 85. I can't speak for the 220. Both are a big improvement over the 65. The 65 had the same processor as the 60 and had a problem detecting mixed/ bad cadences resulting in jaggies. As one member described it Charlie Brown's head looked like stair steps. The newer Panasonic players do great with DVD upscaling. There are settings in the Panny that will make DVD's look like crap, turn them off and you should be happy.
Edited by moxie1617 - 8/15/12 at 4:32pm
post #2130 of 4169
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Originally Posted by darinf View Post

Sorry to keep bringing up this issue, but I confirmed with Panasonic tech support that there is no way to skip forward when watching a movie on a USB hard drive. I assume the same holds true for anything streaming.
Last night I wanted to finish watching the 2nd half of a two hour movie on my USB hard drive. I knew I had to plan an hour in advance, so I started the playback, and then made sure I came back an hour later so I could finish watching the rest of the movie.
I guess I have to write an app that keeps track of where I left off watching a movie and then sets a timer when I start the movie the next time. Then when the alarm goes off, I know I have to go back to to my TV so I can finish watching my movie. eek.gif
(Good thing I can still get a refund for my BDT320.)
I'd tested playback from USB, but I didn't spend much time on it cause I'd rarely if ever use it. I played around with playback from a 16GB FAT32 formatted USB flash drive on my BDT220 and FF was interesting. It takes about 4 seconds to go from level to level of FF, but I could gradually get up to the highest level. At the highest level it seemed to suddenly skip to the end of a 90 minute clip when it got to around 30 minutes, unless I had the progress bar up while doing it (I don't know which remote button does this since I use a Harmony universal--the function I have mapped to the button is labelled "Status" by the Harmony database; two presses gets the progress bar).

That was a 2.7 Mbps AVC clip in an mpg container. I'm going to try a few other things to see whether they work any differently.
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