Originally Posted by audio/videoman
The Oppo's do have video processing circuitry to sweeten the signal. My guess is that once this circuitry is bypassed, I'm willing to bet that the pan. and oppo signals are essentially identical in a/b testing.
As far as sacd, you can get this on a sony blu ray player, a good one, for under $70.
The downside, at least with the 2011 pan. is build quality. They did not do a good job with noise suppression. As far as I can tell, it was not a design goal at all.
If pan. addressed and solved this issue for 2012, I'd say it's a superior value for PQ.
Originally Posted by teachsac
Honestly. We're getting kind of tired hearing this over and over and over in thread after thread after thread. My 210 is quiet. The only noise I hear is when I load a disc. Same thing I hear on a computer. My 320 with the slot drive is even quieter. As far as video processing.... The Oppo puts out a correct signal as does the Panasonic. No difference in BD PQ and virtually no difference in DVD scaling.
I don't understand the noise thing. People want fast load times, so the faster the drive spins, the louder it's going to be. Once you're in playback mode, the disc spins at a normal slower rate and is virtually silent. If it's not, then you either have an unbalanced disc, which isn't the player's fault, or you have a defective drive, which is the player's fault and should be exchanged. If you have super hearing and notice normal drive noise all the time, then you just need to take some common sense steps to mitigate it, like adding pads on the bottom and/or top to dampen it, relocate the player, etc.
I've opened up every player I've ever owned and all of them have essentially the same dampening on the drive and the same generic chinese drive. I even discovered that my $80 Insignia player has exactly the same drive as a $500 Oppo and the same dampening. So unless you're talking about a $10K player, the build quality argument doesn't hold water.