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post #3391 of 4171
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Originally Posted by pclement View Post

Does anyone know what the difference is between a 220 and a 220CP? There are no differences when I do a comparison on the Panasonic webiste.
Same player, but CP (Cable Package) has an HDMI cable in the box. Plain 220 does not. CP models are usually exclusive to warehouse stores like Costco, etc. If the price is the same, go for the CP to get the free cable.
post #3392 of 4171
I just wrote a review on this device in the Review section. I totally agree with you on this. I used an OPPO and I just couldn't justify paying the price for it. When you consider that machines change every 2-3 years, pouring all of that money for something that could change was just not justifiable.

Additionally, I recall buying one of the first DVD players (Sony) many years ago, only to realize that it was a 1-bit player that was soon superseded within months by 8, 16 bit players. I spent over $300 and found myself on the Bleeding Edge, instead of the cutting edge.

Additionally, if you have a decent receiver, I think that the receiver kicks in as well to help with video processing making the Oppo not a value choice. But again, that's just my line of thinking.

This device does a heck of a lot and I have to admit that for the first time ever, a salesman told me about and sold me a device that actually lived up to the hype.
post #3393 of 4171
Errata. Ignore post.
post #3394 of 4171
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Originally Posted by seafan View Post

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a blue-ray player, probably the Panasonic BDT-500 or 220. The spec of them show that they both have USB slot, and compatible with AVCHD and FLAC. I have over 100 hours of home video shot in AVCHD format, and stored in external hard drive. I'm also in the process of putting my CD collection on external HD in FLAC format. Will these music and video files on HD plug-n-play on the Panasonic BDT-500 or 220?

thanks!

Jason



I've played Flac files on the device. But it's not a smooth device for this. Song titles are not searched for etc.
I think that if you have a few songs on a USB stick then it's okay. I haven't hooked up a USB disc system with
an entire library of music. But rest assured it does play FLAC.
post #3395 of 4171
I have everything going into my denon 4311 receiver , then to samsung 72" DLP. The 220 is plugged into the 4311- no picture.
My direct tv genie plays fine. I disconnected the hdmi cord from the direct tv genie, plugged it into the 220.
No picture.
I disconnected the long hdmi cord that goes from the reciever and plugged it into the 220- got picture! Plugged it into my insignia 32' set in bedroom- got picture!
So, it IS output picture out the HDMI, but what is it that the Denon doesn't like?
This is driving me nuts!
post #3396 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

I have everything going into my denon 4311 receiver , then to samsung 72" DLP. The 220 is plugged into the 4311- no picture.
My direct tv genie plays fine. I disconnected the hdmi cord from the direct tv genie, plugged it into the 220.
No picture.
I disconnected the long hdmi cord that goes from the reciever and plugged it into the 220- got picture! Plugged it into my insignia 32' set in bedroom- got picture!
So, it IS output picture out the HDMI, but what is it that the Denon doesn't like?
This is driving me nuts!

That's why I beleive that HDMI is the cause of many problems on these players and other devices. Some HDMI ports are more sensitive than others with certain HDMI cables more sensitive than others in certain HDMI ports. I hope that's not too confusing but what I mean is some ports will work with certain cables and some won't and by trying different cables many issues can be resolved. Of course there is always the chance that a device can just have a bad HDMI port.

I believe the first step should be trying different cables before assuming device is faulty.

As for the Denon, have you checked the owners thread? Handshake and other HDMI issues are all over the AVS forum.

Al
post #3397 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

I have everything going into my denon 4311 receiver , then to samsung 72" DLP. The 220 is plugged into the 4311- no picture.
My direct tv genie plays fine. I disconnected the hdmi cord from the direct tv genie, plugged it into the 220.
No picture.
I disconnected the long hdmi cord that goes from the reciever and plugged it into the 220- got picture! Plugged it into my insignia 32' set in bedroom- got picture!
So, it IS output picture out the HDMI, but what is it that the Denon doesn't like?
This is driving me nuts!

I have a 4311 and the Panny 320 linked via HDMI and do not have any problems, no HDMI issues. I'd start by checking the Input Assign menu on your 4311 and confirm that you have the correct HDMI port assigned to the 220. If the assignment is correct and still no picture-try using one of the other HDMI inputs, reassign and see if that helps.
post #3398 of 4171
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I have a 4311 and the Panny 320 linked via HDMI and do not have any problems, no HDMI issues. I'd start by checking the Input Assign menu on your 4311 and confirm that you have the correct HDMI port assigned to the 220. If the assignment is correct and still no picture-try using one of the other HDMI inputs, reassign and see if that helps.

I have tried every port for the 220. I even disconnected my Directtv box (which works fine) and plugged the 220 in, using the same plug that worked for the directtv box. Same result- no picture. I have also done things like unplug power from receiver and 220 for 15+ minutes, then replug.
I think if I called panasonic, they'd tell me its a problem with the denon and if I called up denon, they'd say it panny's fault.
post #3399 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

I have tried every port for the 220. I even disconnected my Directtv box (which works fine) and plugged the 220 in, using the same plug that worked for the directtv box. Same result- no picture. I have also done things like unplug power from receiver and 220 for 15+ minutes, then replug.
I think if I called panasonic, they'd tell me its a problem with the denon and if I called up denon, they'd say it panny's fault.

If you have NOT already tried this - How About the 220 into the TV or PJ directly.

It sounds like a 220 problem. A connection to the DISPLAY directly should prove this.
post #3400 of 4171
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

If you have NOT already tried this - How About the 220 into the TV or PJ directly.

It sounds like a 220 problem. A connection to the DISPLAY directly should prove this.

I tried that. Connecting to either tv of mine produces a picture.
Connecting to the receiver doesn't. Can't say the receiver is bad as other things plugged into it have no problem putting out a picture.
post #3401 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

I tried that. Connecting to either tv of mine produces a picture.
Connecting to the receiver doesn't. Can't say the receiver is bad as other things plugged into it have no problem putting out a picture.

In My Book that says the 220 is NOT BAD.

It does not say the Receiver is BAD either.

There could be settings in the 220 that might need to change for the Receiver.

There are also changes in the receiver that might need a change also.

Simply plugging in any HDMI into a port that did work is not enough.
post #3402 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

I have tried every port for the 220. I even disconnected my Directtv box (which works fine) and plugged the 220 in, using the same plug that worked for the directtv box. Same result- no picture. I have also done things like unplug power from receiver and 220 for 15+ minutes, then replug.
I think if I called panasonic, they'd tell me its a problem with the denon and if I called up denon, they'd say it panny's fault.

Just to be clear - when you hooked up the 220 to the 4311 - did you enter the Denon setup menu > input assign > select the input (BluRay or DVD) and then assign the correct HDMI input in the setup menu and then make certain that the Denon is set to the correct HDMI input when you want to use the 220.
What remote do you use to control everything - are you certain that the remote is programmed correctly?
post #3403 of 4171
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Same player, but CP (Cable Package) has an HDMI cable in the box. Plain 220 does not. CP models are usually exclusive to warehouse stores like Costco, etc. If the price is the same, go for the CP to get the free cable.

Thanks. This was on the Panasonic site. The Blu-Ray Product home page does indicate the CP model includes an HDMI, but it is not in the comparision. I bought a 220 model from Amazon for less than the Panasonic 220CP.
post #3404 of 4171
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Just to be clear - when you hooked up the 220 to the 4311 - did you enter the Denon setup menu > input assign > select the input (BluRay or DVD) and then assign the correct HDMI input in the setup menu and then make certain that the Denon is set to the correct HDMI input when you want to use the 220.
What remote do you use to control everything - are you certain that the remote is programmed correctly?

yup, all checks out. I use the BD input for the 220, I get no video, just sound. I plugged my Sony BD player into that same input, got video and sound.
Don't see how the remote would affect anything. When i plug in the 220, it says "no signal" then for a second, flashes "mode not supported" then goes back to "signal not supported".
post #3405 of 4171
I see the BDT230 is out. I saw a couple of them at the local BestBuy. But they didn't have a display model out or a price on it.
post #3406 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

yup, all checks out. I use the BD input for the 220, I get no video, just sound. I plugged my Sony BD player into that same input, got video and sound.
Don't see how the remote would affect anything. When i plug in the 220, it says "no signal" then for a second, flashes "mode not supported" then goes back to "signal not supported".
If you don't have Deep Color set to off do that and try again.
post #3407 of 4171
This may have been answered in a previous reply but could some one tell me where the ir/remote sensor is on the 220? We just moved to a new house and the 220 is in a wood cabinet. I'm using an IR extended and can get it to work with all of my devices except the 220. I placed an extended sensor in several places on the 220 but get no response. The remote works fine with the cabinet doors open but I want to keep my kids away. Thanks in advance! We're using this IR extender.
post #3408 of 4171
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I see the BDT230 is out. I saw a couple of them at the local BestBuy. But they didn't have a display model out or a price on it.

Price?
post #3409 of 4171
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Price?

I'm guessing it will be the full retail price of $130. There was nothing listed and I didn't check. I was planning on getting one a few weeks ago, but I decided to wait to see how they are. Right now my plan is to pick up one of the new Sony S5100 3D BD players.Which what I was looking for when I ran across the two BDT230 boxes.
post #3410 of 4171
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

If you don't have Deep Color set to off do that and try again.

Ding ding ding- we have a winner! I plugged the 220 directly into my Samsung 72", turned off deep color, plugged it back into the denon 4311 and was amazed to see a picture.
Thank you very much!
post #3411 of 4171
Hello, I received yesterday a BDT220. So far so good. I'm impressed of the functionality of this device. Quick setup. I was able to connect it to the network easily too. I quickly loaded Avatar. Picture was good and the picture seems more smooth but without the 120mhz effect on. TV is set to 60mhz.

Coming from a 2010/2009 (can't remember) Samsung player and a un46c6400.
post #3412 of 4171
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Originally Posted by dclark View Post

Ding ding ding- we have a winner! I plugged the 220 directly into my Samsung 72", turned off deep color, plugged it back into the denon 4311 and was amazed to see a picture.
Thank you very much!

Glad to hear that you got this issue resolved. I had Deep Color enabled on my 320 going to a Panasonic Plasma with no problems, so the Deep Color issue appears to be TV related.
post #3413 of 4171
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Glad to hear that you got this issue resolved. I had Deep Color enabled on my 320 going to a Panasonic Plasma with no problems, so the Deep Color issue appears to be TV related.
Usually doesn't affect a direct connection between the player and TV. Most problems occur when an AVR or HDMI switch is between the player and TV.


Edit: My issue with Deep Color had to do with 3D playback. No problem with 2D going thru my AVR, but 3D wouldn't work. So there are at least a couple of ways the problem with Deep Color can show up.
Edited by moxie1617 - 3/16/13 at 7:33am
post #3414 of 4171
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

Usually doesn't affect a direct connection between the player and TV. Most problems occur when an AVR or HDMI switch is between the player and TV.


Edit: My issue with Deep Color had to do with 3D playback. No problem with 2D going thru my AVR, but 3D wouldn't work. So there are at least a couple of ways the problem with Deep Color can show up.

It wasn't just playback, there was no "home screen" produced at all. The only way to disable the deep color was to connect it directly to TV, go to settings and do it on that tv.
post #3415 of 4171
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Originally Posted by chico_pr View Post

Hello, I received yesterday a BDT220. So far so good. I'm impressed of the functionality of this device. Quick setup. I was able to connect it to the network easily too. I quickly loaded Avatar. Picture was good and the picture seems more smooth but without the 120mhz effect on. TV is set to 60mhz.

Coming from a 2010/2009 (can't remember) Samsung player and a un46c6400.
That's just Hz, not MHz. In any case, for best results, you should be using 24 Hz for the smoothest picture. Choose that setting on your player, and the TV should adjust automatically (120 Hz with each frame repeated 5 times).
post #3416 of 4171
I'm debating between picking up either a refurb'd DMP-BDT 210/215 or a new DMP-BDT 220.

I've had the DMP-BDT 110 before so I am pretty familiar with these players.

Just wondering if the player advanced from one generation to the next in terms of networking features or consistency. Beyond this aspect, searching this thread, it appears the 220 can play at least one more file format (mp4). Anything else to warrant the BDT 220 over a pre-Cinavia instituted 210/215 player?

It's up in the air at this point for me regarding my need and follow-thru for ripping blu-rays for streaming and for playing mp4 content. My initial instinct is to just get a player for discs and eventually get something more advanced for streaming (a Dune player or the like), which would *probably?* negate any Cinavia concerns.

Thoughts welcomed and encouraged.
post #3417 of 4171
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

I'm debating between picking up either a refurb'd DMP-BDT 210/215 or a new DMP-BDT 220.

I've had the DMP-BDT 110 before so I am pretty familiar with these players.

Just wondering if the player advanced from one generation to the next in terms of networking features or consistency. Beyond this aspect, searching this thread, it appears the 220 can play at least one more file format (mp4). Anything else to warrant the BDT 220 over a pre-Cinavia instituted 210/215 player?

It's up in the air at this point for me regarding my need and follow-thru for ripping blu-rays for streaming and for playing mp4 content. My initial instinct is to just get a player for discs and eventually get something more advanced for streaming (a Dune player or the like), which would *probably?* negate any Cinavia concerns.

Thoughts welcomed and encouraged.

The 220 has much better Netflix streaming than the 210 (no black flashes) I believe both units still have the same file streaming limitations that may others have posted.
post #3418 of 4171
If Cinavia isn't a concern, I would say get the 220. If nothing else, it is more likely to have firmware support longer than the x10 series. I had a 110 and now have a 220. While I haven't tested every possible feature, I didn't see they broke anything in 220. One thing stood out for me was the NTFS support in 220 vs lack thereof in x10. I could write more but so already seem to know quite a bit about these players.
post #3419 of 4171
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Originally Posted by jtrippe View Post

This may have been answered in a previous reply but could some one tell me where the ir/remote sensor is on the 220? We just moved to a new house and the 220 is in a wood cabinet. I'm using an IR extended and can get it to work with all of my devices except the 220. I placed an extended sensor in several places on the 220 but get no response. The remote works fine with the cabinet doors open but I want to keep my kids away. Thanks in advance! We're using this IR extender.

Anyone? I couldn't find where the sensor is on the unit by a google search or in the manual
post #3420 of 4171
Has anyone seen the newer gen 230 in any store in Canada? It seems to be available from Panasonic US site now but the Canadian site does not even mention it anywhere.

On a different note, does 220 support DLNA DMR (renderer) functionality? Its listed in the spec sheet as being supported but when i check certification on the DLNA website, i cannot find mention of DMR under the product type, it only shows DMP. Can anyone confirmif it works as DMR? Thanks!
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