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post #151 of 2546
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Originally Posted by aracnoz View Post

@syntax53
televisioninfo in their reviews set the backlight to 20,

are they crazy? or there is a difference from eh and d serie's backlight ?

in d8000 backlight to 20 can burn the retina

Until last night, I had left my EH5000 at the default backlight setting of 12 in the standard mode. I turned it up last night to the full 20 in a very dark room, and it was a major improvement--definitely NOT too bright. And my retinas remain completely unsinged.

Can't speak to how these settings compare to those in the D series (which is, after all, a completely different edge-lit system and not the direct-lit backlight of the EH series), but the maximum 20 setting on my EH works extremely well (with the color currently dialed down to 45), even in a dark room. Perhaps it has something to do with the diffuser used with the direct-lit LED array--using fewer LEDs than previously--in the EH series.
post #152 of 2546
I'm really interested to know if this TV properly handles 24p playback. I'm eager for some major sites to start reviewing it but I don't know when that's going to happen.
post #153 of 2546
Does anybody knows if this tv and the rest of the EH series can work with usb external hdd? can you please try this and tell?
post #154 of 2546
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Originally Posted by dfp View Post

It could be that your set is erroneously in Store Demo mode. When you first turned it on, you were asked to select Store Demo or Home Use, which you should have selected. Store Demo resets all settings to default mode when you turn off the set.

I am definitely in Home mode, not Store mode. I reset the TV to factory settings as part of the troubleshooting with Samsung Tech Support and I definitely chose that.

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Originally Posted by Test Pattern View Post

I ended up setting Auto Motion Plus to "custom" and dialing down the two available settings to "0," and that seemed to do the trick. See if that makes sense in the menu settings (again, that's what I recall doing when I had this TV a couple of months ago), and let us know if it works.

Sounds like this may be a known issue. I'll try this and let you know if it solves it.
post #155 of 2546
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Originally Posted by kaitokaito View Post

Does anybody knows if this tv and the rest of the EH series can work with usb external hdd? can you please try this and tell?


From the manual.

xxMedia Play only supports USB Mass Storage Class (MSC) devices. MSC is a Mass Storage Class Bulk-Only Transport device. Examples of MSC are Thumb drives and Flash Card Readers. Devices should be connected directly to the TV's USB port. USB HDD is not supported.
post #156 of 2546
Just got my UN55EH6000F from Amazon yesterday thought I'd share my experience. First I have the unit hooked up to a HTPC that I built and watch all my TV through the media center using an HDHomeRun Prime for my cable connection. I was a little surprised that the 1080p setting in the HTPC resulted in the picture "falling off" of the tv and the font in Windows looking terrible. Then I noticed the little "tip" in the TV's getting started guide that says to label the connection as "PC" if connected to a PC using an HDMI. As soon as I did this the TV resized the image to fit perfectly and the font was smoothed out! Now though I noticed that much of the TV settings beyond the basic "back lighting, contrast, brightness settings, etc." are ghosted (i.e., colors, motion plus, etc.)? Seems like the TV is letting the video card in the HTPC control the settings.

So after I get done tweaking the computer to make the TV look as it should, I peel off the protective tape on the bezel only to notice a hairline crack in the top left and bottom right corners. First I thought it was scratched but on closer inspection the bezel is truly cracked.

After talking to Samsung it looks like this won't be covered under warranty so Amazon is exchanging it. Hopefully this isn't a model specific defect so I thought I'd check to see if anyone else noticed this. Also, just wanted to see if anyone else is hooking this TV up to a computer and what experiences they've had with the settings. I'm using Catalyst 12-3 drivers and the two settings that I modified in there to make the TV shine was under the video, setting: type set to Theater, and clicking on Dynamic Range.
post #157 of 2546
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Originally Posted by kaitokaito View Post

Does anybody knows if this tv and the rest of the EH series can work with usb external hdd? can you please try this and tell?

Well, I just hooked up my 1tb WD hard drive and without any problems it played all the movie files be it MKV. or others. Hope this helps.
post #158 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Aveamantium View Post

Then I noticed the little "tip" in the TV's getting started guide that says to label the connection as "PC" if connected to a PC using an HDMI. As soon as I did this the TV resized the image to fit perfectly and the font was smoothed out!

wow, that does make a big difference. Thanks!
post #159 of 2546
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Originally Posted by zeroputt View Post

wow, that does make a big difference. Thanks!

I wonder if input lag will be lower on that pc labeled hdmi connection.
post #160 of 2546
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Originally Posted by ruudboek View Post

I wonder if input lag will be lower on that pc labeled hdmi connection.

Everything I've read said that labeling the input as PC removes the TV's post processing of the signal, similar to Game Mode. So yes, I'd assume that it would reduce input lag.
post #161 of 2546
I'm interested in Samsung's new EH series and folks are right, this really is one of the few places you can actually get info about this set. So back to an old topic, a Samsung Rep assigned to Best Buy confirms twice that this television is edge-Lit. Short of having someone disassemble their set, will we ever get the final word on this?
post #162 of 2546
Had my 60" version for about a week now. Wasn't initially "wowed" out of the box (Came from a 52" LNA860) but after some calibrating, I'm really happy with the set as a whole. Tiny bezel. Great picture. No blur. SOE easy to dismiss using the "clear" option. I definitely don't enjoy the effect the TV seems to have when it's "Off".

Overall, for $1400, great deal.
post #163 of 2546
For what it's worth, this is the response to my 24p question on Best Buy's site:

Question:
Does this TV perform 5:5 pulldown or whatever pulldown is necessary to properly display a 24p feed, such as a 24p feed from a Blu-ray movie on a PlayStation 3?

Answer:
From the available information, the UN60EH6000 will be able to accept a 24p signal and display it on the screen.
post #164 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Scmedic View Post

Overall, for $1400, great deal.


Fry's
has it for a few 'Benjamins' less than that for the next couple days, but in store only B & M.
post #165 of 2546
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Originally Posted by NoOTforIT View Post

I'm interested in Samsung's new EH series and folks are right, this really is one of the few places you can actually get info about this set. So back to an old topic>>>is this television edge-Lit. Short of having someone disassemble their set, will we ever get the final word on this?

From all accounts, this is a 'backlit' set. I wouldn't go by a bb sammy rep, or csr for that matter, just e-mail tim.baxter @ samsung for clarification.
post #166 of 2546
So no one that has bought this has had it calibrated professionally yet? Really interested in getting some base numbers for it. I'm a best buy silver member and as of June will get 1 free calibration from geek squad. So I'll get it then at the very least. Hoping someone would post one though.
post #167 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Scmedic View Post

Had my 60" version for about a week now. Wasn't initially "wowed" out of the box (Came from a 52" LNA860) but after some calibrating, I'm really happy with the set as a whole. Tiny bezel. Great picture. No blur. SOE easy to dismiss using the "clear" option. I definitely don't enjoy the effect the TV seems to have when it's "Off".

Overall, for $1400, great deal.

Can you (or other owners) comment on the off angle viewing for this set? Is the viewing angle fairly wide? It's nice to hear that the SOE is easy to get rid of and there is no motion blur.

Also I thought I read somewhere that they are going to make this in a 50" model? I currently have a 50" Samsung Plasma which is fine size wise. If I did go bigger I would probably get the 55" and not the 60." I only sit about 8' from the set.

-Guru
post #168 of 2546
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Originally Posted by ListedGuru View Post


Also I thought I read somewhere that they are going to make this in a 50" model?
-Guru

50" in June. That goes for the EH5000 and EH53000 as well.
post #169 of 2546
The TV I bought had issues...
I took this pic with my iPhone unfortunately, with a gray image displayed and you'll need to ignore the window and light glares, but at least you get the idea of the vertical lines it displayed.


The lines were visible behind a variety of colors and lighting. I went though every picture option and moved all of them back and forth to see if that would fix the issue. It did not. It was like I was seeing the LEDs though the LCD panel or something.

Outside of this issue, after I figured how to turn the 120Hz crap off to remove the soap opera effect, the picture I was able to display from Toy Story on Bluray was impressive. So I knew if I just got a 'good' TV I'd be set.

Last night we packed up the TV and exchanged it for another (same model)

Once that TV was setup, I was happy to see the vertical lines were not there. But since luck is rarely on my side, I went from one issue to another...
(Pic taken w/ DSLR on Tripod, 5 sec exposure, no lights on in room, 100 ISO) Default Out-of-the-box TV settings. The mute icon is there because in default mode if you view a picture that's 100% black, the TV will go into a deep black mode (not sure exactly what it does but it looks like the LEDs go off or something) so mute was the smallest thing I could make the TV put on screen to force the LEDs to be on.


Based on the few hours I spent looking at different material last night including Blurays, DVDs, HD & SD + test pattern images from Apple TV, the light leaking is too much for me. So unfortunately I'm not happy with this TV either. The light leaking is distracting and visible in all dark scenes and all over Apple TVs menu system (which is mainly black) and frankly, after spending $1500 I expect my TV to look good and I know this model can provide me with the picture I want if the TV was without backlight issues.

The UN55EH6000 is a direct lit LED, would I have less issues with one of the more expensive (but thinner) edge lit LEDs?

Do you have similar issues?

That brings me to Best Buy questions...
Has anyone here exchanged a TV a SECOND time? a third time?
Will I be able to swap my TV again?
What happens if the next one is just as bad or worse?
At what point will Best Buy start getting pissed off?

Please share your experiences.

Thanks!
post #170 of 2546
I noticed the same patches of led last night on black screens. Although it is kinda distracting the blue ray movie(Skynet Edition Terminator) was not effected. On a side not I watched Avatar last night(first time) from 1tb WD HDD. Colors looked very faded. I tried to adjust the colors but there is no option to fix the colors during the playback. Regardless the Blueray movie looked darn good. I will try and check out a couple more movies before I form a solid decision.
post #171 of 2546
The only flaw in mine (UN40EH6000) is on a completely white screen, the right fifth of the screen has a slightly darker greenish tint, barely noticeable.
post #172 of 2546
i checked out the UN60EH6050 @ costco today & came away very impressed with the pq.
post #173 of 2546
I got the 60" delivered from Frys today. Very nice upgrade from a 42" 720p Sammy plasma (HPT-4254), primarily used for PS3. Since my sitting distance isn't changing, I'm able to see a lot more detail. Unfortunately I can also see how pixelated 720p gaming content can be. It seems that activating Auto Motion Plus helps smooth the pixels out for me, even though it's meant more to deal with motion blurring, right? So either I see pixelation or experience the SOE that makes it seem like I'm watching a game trailer. Either way I've really wanted to upgrade and for various practical reasons a monster plasma was out of the question, so I plan to just get used to it.

Other than that, the biggest bummer is not having two antennae inputs for cable & OTA. I guess I'll have to shell out a couple bucks for a coax A/B switch.
post #174 of 2546
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Originally Posted by dgregryc View Post

I am definitely in Home mode, not Store mode. I reset the TV to factory settings as part of the troubleshooting with Samsung Tech Support and I definitely chose that.



Sounds like this may be a known issue. I'll try this and let you know if it solves it.

I am having the exact same problem. I have to cycle my AMP setting from Off -> Something else -> Back to Off every time I turn off my TV. I'm definitely in Home mode as well. Once I cycle the setting, it's perfectly fine -- no Soap Opera Effect at all.

Also, just to reiterate what was posted here earlier -- I'm connecting my PC to this display via DVI -> HDMI to the HDMI Port 1, and renaming the port to DVI made a pretty big difference with text clarity. You can see the video processing visibly cycle (TV goes black then comes back on) when you select the DVI option, so it's not just some kind of placebo effect or anything. The color seems to have dulled a little bit, but I haven't experimented with the settings much yet.

PC Gaming on this has never looked so beautiful
post #175 of 2546
There is a bit light leaking in my 60' TV. However, I can stand for that. I'd like to share some experiences with you.

My eyes are sensitive to those background fast moving (panning) contents, I have to change the setting to the followings:

auto motion plus=smooth
LED motion plus=ON
Film mode=auto

P.S

When you have a HDMI input, if it's from bluray, as the bluray output by default is 1080p, film mode would be grey out. You have to change the bluray output to 1080i and then you should be able to change film mode to be auto.
post #176 of 2546
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Originally Posted by baker12013 View Post

I'm interested in picking up this set but was hoping someone could confirm something for me first. I have a device I need to hook up that has DVI out for video and dual RCA out for audio. Can the UNXXEH6000 link the HDMI1 input (via DVI-HDMI cable) with the RCA audio inputs? I'm assuming so since it's labeled HDMI1(DVI) but haven't seen this confirmed in the manuals or reviews. Thanks for the help!

Doesnt seem to. I cant get the RCA audio input to work in conjunction with either of the HDMI inputs regardless of any input labeling, menu settings etc. Also there is no menu item referencing the analog inputs at all.
post #177 of 2546
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Originally Posted by thespuff View Post

I am having the exact same problem. I have to cycle my AMP setting from Off -> Something else -> Back to Off every time I turn off my TV. I'm definitely in Home mode as well. Once I cycle the setting, it's perfectly fine -- no Soap Opera Effect at all.

Try setting it to Custom, and then set both Custom parameters to 0. I had this same problem when I briefly had this television, and that solved it (i.e., the motion interpolation/SOE stayed off when the TV was turned off and then back on again).
post #178 of 2546
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Originally Posted by canonelan2 View Post

The mute icon is there because in default mode if you view a picture that's 100% black, the TV will go into a deep black mode (not sure exactly what it does but it looks like the LEDs go off or something) so mute was the smallest thing I could make the TV put on screen to force the LEDs to be on.

Do you really notice that much light leakage in real-world testing? Sure, you'll notice it on a camera with a 5-second exposure. Make it 10-second and see how much worse it gets.

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Originally Posted by canonelan2 View Post

after spending $1500 I expect my TV to look good and I know this model can provide me with the picture I want if the TV was without backlight issues.

You wont find a TV for less than $2000 with less backlighting issues than this TV. Hell, I doubt you'd fine one for less than $3000. I don't know how much research you've really put into it but unless you buy a true full-array LED backlit TV with proper localized dimming (e.g. boku $$), it's going to have some sort of backlighting issues.

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Originally Posted by canonelan2 View Post

The UN55EH6000 is a direct lit LED, would I have less issues with one of the more expensive (but thinner) edge lit LEDs?

You may get less bleeding issues (maybe, maybe not), but you'll downgrade to having flashlighting effects which IMO are way worse.

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Originally Posted by canonelan2 View Post

Has anyone here exchanged a TV a SECOND time? a third time?
Will I be able to swap my TV again?
What happens if the next one is just as bad or worse?
At what point will Best Buy start getting pissed off?

I've returned 3 TVs to best buy. After returning the 3rd I found out I had hit a magic limit when I tried to return something stupid (a case for an iPad that didn't fit). After crossing a magic number (somewhere between $3000 and $5000) you'll be locked out for 90 days. However, it's all tied to the driver's license ID you bring in. So all you need to do is bring someone else with you and use their ID.
post #179 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Test Pattern View Post

Try setting it to Custom, and then set both Custom parameters to 0. I had this same problem when I briefly had this television, and that solved it (i.e., the motion interpolation/SOE stayed off when the TV was turned off and then back on again).

Just FYI - this solved it for me. I spent probably 4 hours over the course of the last 2 weeks trying to get this solved with Samsung Customer Support and this was their exact solution also. I expect that there will be a firmware update to address the problem eventually - although CS tried to tell me this was "as designed". HA! Stupid design, if so.
post #180 of 2546
How does the EH6000 handle pixel smearing when used as a PC monitor?
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