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post #301 of 2546
I just finished reading CNET's review on the UN55EH6000, and was rather surprised. They seem to state the exact opposite of what I have read about the black levels and the color accuracy of this set. I have read in many places, including this thread, that the black level on this set is one of the best out there. I've also read that color accuracy is a bit of a week point. All in all, I'm thinking of getting this set as my new TV for my home theater, upgrading from the LN40A550 and moving that to our front room for my wife to watch. I've had the LN40A550 for 4 or 5 years now and it's been a fantastic HDTV. I've gotten many of compliments on the PQ quality of that set. From what I'm seeing in this thread, it appears at least 90% of you who own the UN55EH6000 are very please with the TV and feels it has a great PQ. I do have one question, is the screen matte or glossy, and if it's glossy, how bad is light reflection?

Thanks!
Ghpr13:)
post #302 of 2546
its not that glossy considering i have plexi glass on it to protect the kids from breaking it,,,i have it in a dark room so its not bothering at all.
post #303 of 2546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghpr13 View Post

I just finished reading CNET's review on the UN55EH6000, and was rather surprised. They seem to state the exact opposite of what I have read about the black levels and the color accuracy of this set. I have read in many places, including this thread, that the black level on this set is one of the best out there. I've also read that color accuracy is a bit of a week point. All in all, I'm thinking of getting this set as my new TV for my home theater, upgrading from the LN40A550 and moving that to our front room for my wife to watch. I've had the LN40A550 for 4 or 5 years now and it's been a fantastic HDTV. I've gotten many of compliments on the PQ quality of that set. From what I'm seeing in this thread, it appears at least 90% of you who own the UN55EH6000 are very please with the TV and feels it has a great PQ. I do have one question, is the screen matte or glossy, and if it's glossy, how bad is light reflection?
Thanks!
Ghpr13:)

yeah i would go for it. i have the 40 inch model and i am still drooling over the picture quality. i got it at Best Buy for $699. It's on sale there until tomorrow. I actually replaced a 2012 LG 3D tv with this one and I won't ever go back to LG. nothing but problems and the picture doesn't even compare to this Sammy.
post #304 of 2546
maybe CNET rated the set so low because thier settings are horrible. they made my set look washed out and faded.
post #305 of 2546
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Originally Posted by rambonea4d View Post

maybe CNET rated the set so low because thier settings are horrible. they made my set look washed out and faded.

I neither agree with CNETs review, nor their settings. CNET is sometimes a good source for basic TV information, but they are spotty on accuracy across the board. I viewed several 40" and 46" EH6000 models at two different stores, got the remote and made some spot tweaks to tone down the store torch mode where possible. I found the TV picture quality to me about what other owners and some other reviews stated. Black level and peak contrast seemed very good and better than other brands next to the EH6000. Color was as stated, a bit less saturation than some TVs, but without using some kind of calibration aid difficult to tell if it can be improved. I think the EH6000 and perhaps the EH5000 might be one of the best mid priced buys this year so far. A limited full array LED panel like this was a smart move by Samsung to deliver decent picture quality at a reasonable price.
post #306 of 2546
Oh, I assume nothing, but perhaps you should not assume other folks can not make valid relative assessments comparing TV picture quality in the same environment with other nearby models and brands. After all, that is all most people do when making a purchasing choice. And there was no "bright store lighting. . . certainly an assumption. rolleyes.gif

All I was simply stating is that after using the remote to select more moderate settings the picture looked very good and concurred with many owner impressions here. Of, course, it could look worse, or better at home after a more conclusive going over with at least a cal disk to make some Media Assisted Settings.wink.gif

And on the internet regarding CNET or anyone else, I'm not sure what really constitutes a "professional".cool.gif
Edited by Phase700B - 6/10/12 at 3:18pm
post #307 of 2546
i tweaked the set myself no calibration machines whatsoever,,strictly trial and error and im very happy with my settings and stated before i will put up some more tweaks,,,if you want to calibrate professionaly,,go right ahead you wont lose but get a greater tv than what it is right out of the box..my settings are
to get people started they should give them a try and slowly tweak themselves to what they are comfortable with..
post #308 of 2546
posting two of my settings here,

disclaimer: by no means is this the 'best' settings out there, nor have true professional experience with calibration. i simply use the tools that are within my grasp and my limits, and chose to share these on my own. if it has helped out anyone, i have succeeded. if not, well, its a starting point. i am also color blind - i cant grasp certain colors, but can perceive some sort of inconsistencies. i focuse primarily on the contrast and brightness settings, to avoid crushed blacks and better whites.

our tools differ from each other, one never the same - our eyes.

*edit*
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO WRITE DOWN YOUR CURRENT SETTINGS, PRIOR TO TRYING MY PERSONAL SETTINGS. biggrin.gif

1. standard setting
- i use this one for my tv viewing, and/or gaming purposes. mostly in a well lit room, with limited or brighter ambient lighting.
- a tad bluer than usual, simply because i like this settings (think i robot, sci fi if you may consider a particular genre)
- calibrated using disneys wow disc, first attempt.

Mode: Standard
Game Mode: off
Backlight: 15
Contrast: 78
Brightness: 50
Sharpness: 50
Color: 33
Tint: G45/R45
Color Space: Native
White Balance: Default
Gamma: 0
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black Tone: normal
Flesh Tone: -1
Motion Lighting: Off
Color Tone: Standard
Size: screen fit
Digital Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal
Film Mode: Off
Auto Motion: Off
LED Motion: Off

2. movie setting
- used mostly for blu-rays, movie watching in a dim or no light environment.
- warmer, gives me the film like appearance i prefer. (think LOTR, green, green, green)
- calibrated using DVE video essentials (HD-DVD version)

Mode: Movie
Game Mode: off
Backlight: 12
Contrast: 70
Brightness: 40
Sharpness: 30
Color: 43
Tint: G45/R55
Color Space: Native
White Balance: Default
Gamma: 0
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black Tone: normal
Flesh Tone: -1
Motion Lighting: Off
Color Tone: Standard
Size: screen fit
Digital Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal
Film Mode: Off
Auto Motion: Off
LED Motion: Off

I cant afford a full fledged calibration, nor am ISF certified. what i DO know is that i like these two settings, and feel very comfortable given the environment i have my set in. our settings vary and of course impact our viewing experiences. also you will notice my backlight isnt on full force, simply because i want to also partially use the economical capabilities of the tv without using any of the eco-modes found on them. dynamic contrast for me sometimes highlights the wrong parts, and/or change the experience for me.

do i like this tv? of course i do, considering that its not an edge lit panel, and has the bells and whistles i want (simply a great display panel, nothing more, nothing less), it fits my bill. i was contemplating on returning it earlier, based on the dynamic contrast ratio mentioned earlier, but since its just that and not your true contrast ratio, i decided it wasnt worth the hassle.

by the way, this is for the 60 inch version.
Edited by jomari - 6/11/12 at 8:06am
post #309 of 2546
thanks for your settings. i will have to try them out. this tv is sweet by the way.
post #310 of 2546
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Originally Posted by getbigg21 View Post

thanks for your settings. i will have to try them out. this tv is sweet by the way.

your welcome!

do let me know how these settings work for you, if it doesnt work as well, we have gexxxy and syntax's settings posted here somewhere.

any contribution made towards making our experience better with this display is always beneficial to the community.

by the way, has anyone discovered where the hdmi-cec setting is? ive been trying to find it but couldnt see it on the menu. my blu-ray player panny bdt-310 doesnt play pandora with the tv off. for some reason, with my previous samsung tv, i could do this. but this doesnt work anymore. its very similar to our colleague previously mentioning it.

TV->HDMI->AVR->Blu-ray player.
post #311 of 2546
Seriously. . . . just sharing my observation as others have. It is a forum.
Edited by Phase700B - 6/12/12 at 1:59pm
post #312 of 2546
Both of you...hover over the other member's name and click "Block Member".

You'll make the site more enjoyable for yourselves and everyone forced to see this stuff over and over.
post #313 of 2546
Thank you Mike Lang. I have tried "self censorship" in the past, hopefully it has better results this time.
post #314 of 2546
Hey Guys,
First time posting on this forum, and I have gone through each and every post of this thread.
I have the 55" of this model.
I have one very peculiar problem, it is termed as the "Silk Screen" effect.
This effect is very prominent on my set. This is worst for soccer matches where the background is green for the soccer ground.
I have seen this in NBA matches and tennis matches also.

Is anybody getting this problem ?

How to describe this silk screen effect - Think of it as someone holding up a silk screen or a clear panty hose up against the screen, and trying to watch TV through it.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Edited by flogix - 6/12/12 at 3:11pm
post #315 of 2546
no problems here whatsover update to the latest firmware then check out my settings i have never had this problem as a matter of fact just watched Euro 2012 again today and the colors the contrast the sharpness the image it is out of this world..and i have the 55 inch model also...

flogix honestly i havent seen this effect do you have maybe a picture of this problem...sorry i couldnt be much help for you is your tv still able to be returned,,are you in the return period by chance..if yes maybe return it for another one??...
Edited by gexxxy - 6/12/12 at 4:32pm
post #316 of 2546
Thanks for the quick reply gexxxy.
I am on the latest firmware and I did try with your setting also ... the silk screen effect is still there.
This effect is really driving me nuts.
Just wanted to see if I am the only one in this forum who has this issue or if someone else has noticed this.
post #317 of 2546
It sounds pretty much like what is also called DSE, or dirty screen effect. If I understand you correctly it's like a stationary film, very small mesh, or smeary but uniform pattern that seems to be what you are looking through.

It is an issue that crops up in some batches of LCD panels for just about all TV brands. It is a type of manufacturing defect where the layers of the LCD panel possibly did not adhere well, or got contaminated.

I would take it back and try to get a different lot number from a different batch if possible.
post #318 of 2546
Thanks phase700b.
I just read about the DSE, and yes, it is same as the Silk Screen Effect.
I think I just got plain unlucky.
Seems nobody else in this forum has noticed this on their set.

@gexxxy
I tried to take a picture, but it does not come up well on a pic.
I still have 20 days to go for the return period, I am pretty sure I am going to return this one and get the same model from Amazon.
post #319 of 2546
Guys this tv is amazing i must have said it many times i dont work for samsung im just a consumer like everyone,,,please i used to have headaches from bad tv bad images,,always unhappy wasting my money,,so i did
the best thing return no more headaches,,,and even before this set i had the lg 55lv4400 not at all happy returned after tweaking for 6 days back to store no more problems what counts is you to be happy with your
investments,,,forget what they say im not happy give me another set,,i remember i went to future shop once before buying the samsung led i have in my bedroom i spent 2 hours looking i asked the salesman to hook up a bluray player so i can view the different tv;s i was interested in,,they werent happy i didnt give a damn it was my money final i got my samsung 46 led no problems,,,got free calibration also cause i bought a demo and 4 years for 100$.. Remember your money your choice,,,,be happy with your purchases,,,its your hard earned money enjoy...smile.gif
post #320 of 2546
settings if anyone interested:
Mode: movie
Backlight-12
Contrast-100
Brightness-32
Sharpness-18
color-44
Tint G48/r52
Advanced settings::
colorspace -auto
White Balance:
R-offset 33
G-offset 31
B-offset 30
R-Gain 38
G-Gain 34
B-Gain 33
Gamma : 2
Dynamic contrast med
Blacktone off
Flesh tone 0
Motion lightning off
Picture options
Color tone warm1
size 16:9
Digital noise off
HDMI level normal greyed out
film mode off
Auto motion clear 9 Blur Judder 10
Led off
post #321 of 2546
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Originally Posted by flogix View Post

Thanks phase700b.
I just read about the DSE, and yes, it is same as the Silk Screen Effect.
I think I just got plain unlucky.
Seems nobody else in this forum has noticed this on their set.
@gexxxy
I tried to take a picture, but it does not come up well on a pic.
I still have 20 days to go for the return period, I am pretty sure I am going to return this one and get the same model from Amazon.

I saw it on a display model in Best Buy, but didn't know what it was.
post #322 of 2546
My friend wanted my advice on this TV, so I do have one question, is the screen matte or glossy, and if it's glossy, how bad is light reflection?
We are both thinking of getting one of these, but our TV rooms are both rather bright during the day. My TV room has only one window, but even with the blinds closed during the day, you can still read a newspaper. Now at night, there's no problem, the room is pitch dark, and I don't turn on any lights.My friend's TV room, as far as I can remember, has a wall of about 4 windows directly across from the TV. At night his wife tends to turn on a light while watching TV.

Any insight from owners of the UN55EH6000 would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)
post #323 of 2546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghpr13 View Post

My friend wanted my advice on this TV, so I do have one question, is the screen matte or glossy, and if it's glossy, how bad is light reflection?
We are both thinking of getting one of these, but our TV rooms are both rather bright during the day. My TV room has only one window, but even with the blinds closed during the day, you can still read a newspaper. Now at night, there's no problem, the room is pitch dark, and I don't turn on any lights.My friend's TV room, as far as I can remember, has a wall of about 4 windows directly across from the TV. At night his wife tends to turn on a light while watching TV.
Any insight from owners of the UN55EH6000 would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ghpr13:)

i have the 60inch version, but hoping this helps out a bit.

per cnet
Quote:
Bright lighting: I appreciated the matte screen in bright lighting since it reduced reflections much better than the glossy finish on the Panasonic plasma and the Samsung UND6400. Compared with the other LCDs, which all have matte screens, reflections were a tad brighter on the UNEH6000. The UNEH6000 also preserved black levels better than the Panasonic and worse than the UND6400; there was little difference I could discern between it and the other matte LCDs in this area.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un46eh6000/4505-6482_7-35159621-2.html?tag=rvwBody;paginate

my 60 does look like the older panel i had, a samsung LN40B540 (also from costco), and is a CCFL panel.

glare is obvious, but its not a 'glossy' screen i see on some screens out there. i cant really say its matte either, because i still see a good amount of reflections (i have a full sliding door on the right side).

consider checking it out at best buy or sears or what not, the next time you head out to see. best way to check is if you can turn the television set off, and see the glare yourself. (you can do this using any samsung remote by the way. biggrin.gif)

is there anyone else who STILL has a unit?

im not certain but it seems like im the only one left with the 60 incher... tongue.gif
post #324 of 2546
personaly i have mine in living room lots of light there and plus i have plexi glass on it to protect it from the kids,,,there is glare and i have to put pillows or pull down drapes but all in all the colors are rich its a nice image even with that i dont mind go through the hassel of darkening the room to watch it its a nice set for the money and im a sports fan its excellent,,
post #325 of 2546
If you want, you can make a "matte" effect on the glare prone plexiglass by using Bartenders Helper scouring powder and an automotive orbital polisher on the shiny plexiglass. I've used that technique to make less glare on plexiglass for photo frames. It softens the image a bit, but works really well. If it gets too "matte" you can use tooth paste or a plastic polish to clear it up to whatever extent you want. You can also use Comet cleanser but it takes a lot longer to get the effect. Or, use a combo of Bartender's and tooth paste with the orbital polisher to start with for a more mild "matte".

If it sounds interesting, you can always try it on a scrap piece of plexiglass.
post #326 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

If you want, you can make a "matte" effect on the glare prone plexiglass by using Bartenders Helper scouring powder and an automotive orbital polisher on the shiny plexiglass. I've used that technique to make less glare on plexiglass for photo frames. It softens the image a bit, but works really well. If it gets too "matte" you can use tooth paste or a plastic polish to clear it up to whatever extent you want. You can also use Comet cleanser but it takes a lot longer to get the effect. Or, use a combo of Bartender's and tooth paste with the orbital polisher to start with for a more mild "matte".
If it sounds interesting, you can always try it on a scrap piece of plexiglass.

i hate mozilla and i hate no script. this is the third gorram time i had to rewrite this.

phase, is this barkeepers friend? if so, its an interesting technique. i like the idea of using a non abrasive cleaner to help with it. pretty cool.

regarding, ghosting that was reported previously, i saw someone posting battlefield 3 so i was curious enough to try it out.

played the scene where they first meet the PLR, with the RPG coming from the building. i hate that i havent played as much as i used to, but what can we do. anyways, it went well, and didnt see any ghosting particularly on the characters firearm and movement.

i also tried COD (the new one), so i did the bot mode, with enemy waves in the 'paris plaza' area. no lag, no apparent ghosting.

i guess im lucky with this display.

am i still the only one with the 60 inch model or did everyone else return theirs?
post #327 of 2546
I have the 60eh6000 but probably not for long. This purchase has been a nightmare from the beginning. The first one I got was scratched badly on the screen. The second one has 2 black shadows on the right side of the screen. I cannot get sound out of my receiver unless the tv is on. And now I have found that I cannot use this tv as a display with my HDMI laptop. My LG 47LH90 worked perfectly with all of my same equipment. I just wanted a bigger screen. This is my first Samsung and if I cannot figure out how to make my laptop work with it then it is going back and will be my last. Even if I can manage somehow to make the laptop work I still have to return this one because of the shadows. VERY disappointing.
post #328 of 2546
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Originally Posted by jomari View Post


phase, (what) is this barkeepers friend? if so, its an interesting technique. i like the idea of using a non abrasive cleaner to help with it. pretty cool.


^ ^ ^ Bartenders Helper is an abrasive scouring cleaner (like Comet but more abrasive) found in many grocery or home maintenance stores. It is normally used to clean stainless steel sinks and get them back to looking good. Just to verify, I wouldn't use it on the TV screen itself , but was replying to gexxy who has an additional plexiglass over his TV screen to keep the kids from marking or damaging the TV screen. I had the issue with an RPTV years ago so know the feeling. $600 for a new screen!

Anyway, I have used the techniques of various abrasive cleaners and polishes also smoked tinted plastic dust covers on vintage Dual and Technics turntables to get out deep scratches and then move up to lighter polishing abrasives. Another compound that works is a cream type stainless steel polish along with Gel Gloss plastic/fiberglass polish. But that's another topic. smile.gif
post #329 of 2546
flippin software caused me to rewrite this so bear with me...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I have the 60eh6000 but probably not for long. This purchase has been a nightmare from the beginning. The first one I got was scratched badly on the screen. The second one has 2 black shadows on the right side of the screen. I cannot get sound out of my receiver unless the tv is on. And now I have found that I cannot use this tv as a display with my HDMI laptop. My LG 47LH90 worked perfectly with all of my same equipment. I just wanted a bigger screen. This is my first Samsung and if I cannot figure out how to make my laptop work with it then it is going back and will be my last. Even if I can manage somehow to make the laptop work I still have to return this one because of the shadows. VERY disappointing.

so sorry to hear about that bond,

1. i had the grey shadows, and they were prominent if you use a white image, a grey image of 20% and around 50%, but left the tv on for a while, and used the disney 'depixel' thingy, and maybe its placebo, but it went away.

2. i wish i couldve helped with the laptop thing, but im not familiar nor have used mine on it. sorry bud.

3. with regards to the sound with tv off, well, this one i just worked around it and just used my tv control to off (as you mentioned earlier too),,,

i guess i AM the only one left then. frown.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

^ ^ ^ Bartenders Helper is an abrasive scouring cleaner (like Comet but more abrasive) found in many grocery or home maintenance stores. It is normally used to clean stainless steel sinks and get them back to looking good. Just to verify, I wouldn't use it on the TV screen itself , but was replying to gexxy who has an additional plexiglass over his TV screen to keep the kids from marking or damaging the TV screen. I had the issue with an RPTV years ago so know the feeling. $600 for a new screen!
Anyway, I have used the techniques of various abrasive cleaners and polishes also smoked tinted plastic dust covers on vintage Dual and Technics turntables to get out deep scratches and then move up to lighter polishing abrasives. Another compound that works is a cream type stainless steel polish along with Gel Gloss plastic/fiberglass polish. But that's another topic. smile.gif

had to underline what you mentioned earlier, just to avoid anyone who might attempt to use it DIRECTLY on the panel. i mightve, but thought a bit harder. biggrin.gif

couldnt find an image of bartenders helper, im assuming its like a paste form like barkeepers friend?

Thanks guys, im sorry that a number of consumers have had problems with theirs, nonetheless, i think im going to keep this one for a while, or at least until my costco return policy can accept it. will put it on a rigorous workout for now.
post #330 of 2546
I have the 55es6550 purchased from BJ's, and after a couple of weeks just noticed these 3 horizontal black bars. I think it's part of the design of the TV, but it shouldn't show up at any point. Anyone else had a problem like this? It is much more noticable at a different brightness.

700

I am planning on returning it, but not sure if I should even try to get the same. I just saw the 55eh6070, anyone have any opinion on this model?
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