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post #691 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Borvok View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKjxZ4pEktA&feature=plcp Heres another video of smearing brightness is set to 46,Its in the resident evil 6 demo at the beginning of the leon part.

FYI the RE6 Demo code seems to have a bug in the Leon section where there is a dark splotchy digital artifact around the middle of the screen. Smearing is something else though. All VA type panels will smear a little on dark scenes though.
post #692 of 2546
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Originally Posted by cd5tuner View Post

Well my luck with samsung tvs is ****! LOL at least their warranty and customer service is cool. I just found out i have a Samsung Authorized repair shop in a 7 min walking distance from my apartment. So i walked down there, showed him the pics and he told me that my panel is definitely faulty. I took my reciept from BB with me we were 15 min on the phone with samsung customer service and i got my service ticket already...the only weird thing is that my warranty on the ticket says im covered parts and labor till 2014!! even though my reciept says 10/1/2012 LOL
You are not alone. I got 3 bad 60" panels when this model was fairly new before I gave up and bought a different brand. Many were referring to it as a panel lottery it was so bad. You can see some of my posts near the beginning of this thread. First and last experience with Samsung. I am not trying to bash them but that was definitely enough for me.TV gets a great picture if you can get a good panel.
post #693 of 2546
Repair tech just left and the culprit was a dirty connection on the ribbon between the panel and the processor!!! He still ordered a new ribbon for good measure before closing the ticket, so he'll be back to install that. BUT!!! im extremely satisfied to report that my panel is once again pristine looking!!! No banding at all, excellent uniformity and also got it calibrated by the tech. The purplish shadowing was greatly reduced also it is barely noticeable. So if anyone one wants to get rid of the banding HS01 is good.
post #694 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

which panel did you get on each? were they all Sharp panels (Version: Hxxx)?
I dont know. That was not part of the discussion at the time so it was not brought up. I was going through this back in April and May.
post #695 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

which panel did you get on each? were they all Sharp panels (Version: Hxxx)?
:I just looked at some of my old posts and the second bad panel was an an HS01 and it was in June.
Edited by Bond 007 - 10/6/12 at 3:10am
post #696 of 2546
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Originally Posted by cd5tuner View Post

Repair tech just left and the culprit was a dirty connection on the ribbon between the panel and the processor!!! He still ordered a new ribbon for good measure before closing the ticket, so he'll be back to install that. BUT!!! im extremely satisfied to report that my panel is once again pristine looking!!! No banding at all, excellent uniformity and also got it calibrated by the tech. The purplish shadowing was greatly reduced also it is barely noticeable. So if anyone one wants to get rid of the banding HS01 is good.
A Panasonic tech calibrated your tv while doing repairs? Did he charge you for the calibration?
post #697 of 2546
I dont think he's a Panasonic tech...He only does warranty repairs for Samsung, Sony and Viore and anything else privately (read: not through warranty). Its a small shop 7 min walking distance from my house and turns out the owner is a guy ive seen around the bakery where my wife used to work and he came to my house for the repair. So he had a WOW disc with the filters and calibrated it. Update on the panel btw...After he left i used the tv for about one hour then turned it off and left to the mall. Came back after 3 hours and turned it on and the problem was back :S At least he was wise enough to not close the ticket when he left and ordering a new cable cause just cleaning the ribbon connectors was not enough.
post #698 of 2546
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Originally Posted by cd5tuner View Post

I dont think he's a Panasonic tech...He only does warranty repairs for Samsung, Sony and Viore and anything else privately (read: not through warranty). Its a small shop 7 min walking distance from my house and turns out the owner is a guy ive seen around the bakery where my wife used to work and he came to my house for the repair. So he had a WOW disc with the filters and calibrated it. Update on the panel btw...After he left i used the tv for about one hour then turned it off and left to the mall. Came back after 3 hours and turned it on and the problem was back :S At least he was wise enough to not close the ticket when he left and ordering a new cable cause just cleaning the ribbon connectors was not enough.
Sorry to hear that. My mistake about the "Panasonic" thing. Trying to keep track of too many forums.
post #699 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

what was wrong with the three bad panels?
First off not sure that they were all HSO1 but the second one was. The first one was severely scratched as if someone had taken a key to the panel and had a field day. Second one had 2 comma shaped (( grey areas on the right side that went all the way from top to bottom. 3rd panel had 2 gray vertical bands on the right side about 2 inches wide a piece that went from top to bottom on the right and an identical band on the left. And get this. The first tv I brought home from Walmart had a tabletop in it. Yes. Someone had stolen the tv, stand and instructions and put a tabletop and the foam packing material back into the box. 4 attempts to get a good tv and they were all bad. There were other issues as well. I could not get sound from my receiver through bluray for Pandora unless the tv was on and my LG was not like that. I also could not get my HDMI laptop to work with it when I also had no problems with my LG for this. All in all a horrible experience. This was the 60eh6000 too so every setup, break down, put it back in the box, take it back to the store, etc was not loads of fun. I got a TCP 60ST50 from Amazon delivered to my door for free and it has been perfect from the beginning. My opinion is that the Panasonic is a better tv and is cheaper. Very happy with it.
post #700 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I watched two BD movies yesterday and I didn't really see any banding (digital nor vertical) during either. The only time I may have seen the digital banding was on static screens before the movie started. So, with high quality BD movies, the banding is not really noticeable at all.
Given that the digital banding only shows up under very specific circumstances, could you try putting up a grayscale ramp test pattern on your set to check if you can see the kind of very fine banding on it shown here, especially near black. I'd really like to know if all EH6000s have this issue or only the Samsung panels and a test pattern is the only way to be 100% sure about this as it may not really be noticeable under typical viewing.
If you could send me a link to where i can download that exact grayscale ramp you used ill bemore than happy to posts some pics. Keep in mind they will be with my current defect till the tech repairs my faulty wire mad.gif.


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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

First off not sure that they were all HSO1 but the second one was. The first one was severely scratched as if someone had taken a key to the panel and had a field day. Second one had 2 comma shaped (( grey areas on the right side that went all the way from top to bottom. 3rd panel had 2 gray vertical bands on the right side about 2 inches wide a piece that went from top to bottom on the right and an identical band on the left. And get this. The first tv I brought home from Walmart had a tabletop in it. Yes. Someone had stolen the tv, stand and instructions and put a tabletop and the foam packing material back into the box. 4 attempts to get a good tv and they were all bad. There were other issues as well. I could not get sound from my receiver through bluray for Pandora unless the tv was on and my LG was not like that. I also could not get my HDMI laptop to work with it when I also had no problems with my LG for this. All in all a horrible experience. This was the 60eh6000 too so every setup, break down, put it back in the box, take it back to the store, etc was not loads of fun. I got a TCP 60ST50 from Amazon delivered to my door for free and it has been perfect from the beginning. My opinion is that the Panasonic is a better tv and is cheaper. Very happy with it.
I'm sorry but i lolled so hard at the tabletop in the tv box part!!! I bet this was your face when you saw it:
post #701 of 2546
hi
Plazmapz80u do you find your Sammy more clear than lk450? I'm finding my lgcs570(similar to lk450) looks blurrier than other tvs ive had.
post #702 of 2546
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Originally Posted by cd5tuner View Post

If you could send me a link to where i can download that exact grayscale ramp you used ill bemore than happy to posts some pics. Keep in mind they will be with my current defect till the tech repairs my faulty wire mad.gif.
I'm sorry but i lolled so hard at the tabletop in the tv box part!!! I bet this was your face when you saw it:
Lol Something like that. Then when I went back to Walmart to exchange they treated me like I was stupid! They had to do an investigation that took 2 days and then I had to argue with them to just get a $25 discount to atleast help cover my gas. I bought it online and it was supposed to be just a simple pick up. I will never make another large purchase at Walmart. Hell I thought for sure that they would offer me something for my trouble (discount, gift card). They were gonna just let me walk outlike nothing ever happened. Thats when I got the second one (technically first) home and it looked like someone had taken a key to the display. It was gouged all to hell. You dont want to imagine my reaction to that one.
post #703 of 2546
Hi, I'm new and this is the first HDTV I've ever owned and had some questions about the TV. I bought this TV just to play video games on it. I was inspired to buy this tv because about a year ago I played Arkham City on my friends TV and it was absolutely perfect. He has the 46D6300 which I thought was just an older version of this TV. I've been playing Borderlands 2 on my TV recently (UN46EH6000) and I gotta say it's kind of underwhelming. . . One of the things I've noticed in both games is a sort of Bleeding effect? I'm not sure if there's anyway to get rid of it as I've tried multiple settings from this forum and a couple of others. . Anytime there is any source of bright light behind the character (which is pretty much constant in Arkham City and can occur at almost anytime in Borderlands 2 as well if you just look up at the satellite) black lines just shoot off of anything thats in front of it. What's up with that? Also a lot of the little things (in game posters, achievement icons, etc) look kind of gritty? These are my current settings and they have provided the clearest picture by far, but it still seems like somethings missing , , , not to mention Arkham City just seems way darker on my tv than it ever looked on his

mode: standard
backlight: 20
contrast 90
brightness 51
sharpness 30
color 55
Tint G50R50

Advanced Setting
color space auto
gamma 0
dynamic Low
Black tone Dark
Flesh Tone +4
Motion Lighting Off

White Balance
R offset 20
G offset 30
B offset 20
R gain 25
G gain 25
B gain 30

picture options
color tone standard
size screen fit
digital noise filter off
HDMI black level: Low
Film Mode: Off
LED motion plus Off

Auto motion Plus Custom
Blur Reduction 7
Judder Reduction 5

If anyone can relate to this bleeding issue and help with a way to remove it or fix it , I think I could be happy with this tv. Thanks ahead of time
post #704 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Chris Pomaski View Post

Hi, I'm new and this is the first HDTV I've ever owned and had some questions about the TV. I bought this TV just to play video games on it. I was inspired to buy this tv because about a year ago I played Arkham City on my friends TV and it was absolutely perfect. He has the 46D6300 which I thought was just an older version of this TV. I've been playing Borderlands 2 on my TV recently (UN46EH6000) and I gotta say it's kind of underwhelming. . . One of the things I've noticed in both games is a sort of Bleeding effect? I'm not sure if there's anyway to get rid of it as I've tried multiple settings from this forum and a couple of others. . Anytime there is any source of bright light behind the character (which is pretty much constant in Arkham City and can occur at almost anytime in Borderlands 2 as well if you just look up at the satellite) black lines just shoot off of anything thats in front of it. What's up with that? Also a lot of the little things (in game posters, achievement icons, etc) look kind of gritty? These are my current settings and they have provided the clearest picture by far, but it still seems like somethings missing , , , not to mention Arkham City just seems way darker on my tv than it ever looked on his
mode: standard
backlight: 20
contrast 90
brightness 51
sharpness 30
color 55
Tint G50R50
Advanced Setting
color space auto
gamma 0
dynamic Low
Black tone Dark

Flesh Tone +4
Motion Lighting Off
White Balance
R offset 20
G offset 30
B offset 20
R gain 25
G gain 25
B gain 30
picture options
color tone standard
size screen fit
digital noise filter off
HDMI black level: Low
Film Mode: Off
LED motion plus Off
Auto motion Plus Custom
Blur Reduction 7
Judder Reduction 5
If anyone can relate to this bleeding issue and help with a way to remove it or fix it , I think I could be happy with this tv. Thanks ahead of time

I can see you've got the brightness turned up while simultaneously having dynamic contrast and black tone turned on. This is a bad idea as your crushing the blacks then trying to brighten them again.

I would turn off dynamic contrast and black tone and lower brightness using a test pattern. Also check to make sure you've got the "Black level" setting matching whatever your console is outputting (full range vs limited range levels).
post #705 of 2546
No in game resolution settings and I do have both of them broadcasting at 1080 p. Seriously it is a little weird that an 800 dollar tv would have gritty images of in game posters right? I'm kind of debating returning this thing
post #706 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Chris Pomaski View Post

No in game resolution settings and I do have both of them broadcasting at 1080 p. Seriously it is a little weird that an 800 dollar tv would have gritty images of in game posters right? I'm kind of debating returning this thing

Gritty images are probably because of your settings. Sharpness of 30 is quite high. I would put it on movie mode and turn sharpness down and see if it looks better.
post #707 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

Do you have a Sharp panel? Check "Version" on the sticker on the back of the TV or on the box. If it's Hxxx, it's a Sharp. If it's Txxx, it's a Samsung S-PVA.
You are asking everyone whether they have a Sharp or Samsung panel. Mind explaining why?
post #708 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I'm trying to see whether the problems described with certain sets are related to the panel type/maker. It seems motion issues are mainly on the Sharp panels.
Thats good to know. Especially for people who are still looking to buy.
post #709 of 2546
Hi guys. Didn't post on here in a long time so take it easy on me. Just bought a new UN55EH6000 and have a few questions. First, the version number on it is a CH01, and I just want to know if it's a good panel. What is the difference between this panel and the Sharp and Samsung panels? I played it and there's no blur or purple ghosting as of yet, which I had seen can be a problem. I mostly play it for games so should I put it on game mode or will there be a problem with lag? I just want to know what the best settings are for games. If I play it on Dynamic with all the extras for motion shut off, would that be similar to playing on game mode? Does game mode make any difference at all with input lag? Any help with answering these questions is appreciated. Thanks.
Edited by HDMaDnEsS - 10/10/12 at 11:45pm
post #710 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

Anyone know what all the letters and numbers in the type code mean? (46A1AF0D)
I know 46 means 46-inch and the first A means Samsung.

They indicate whether it's edge lit or back lit and whether it has a 60hz or 120hz panel. Also whether it's glossy/ultra clear or more matte.

It says somewhere in this thread what exactly they mean http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1113353-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed.html

I wouldn't worry about it though, because all xxeh6000 will have the same code except for the letter indicating the panel manufacturer.
post #711 of 2546
I have a TS02 panel which I guess is Samsung, and no issues described. I'm astonished that Samsung uses other manuf. components like Sharp in their TVs. I thought they sourced everything since they actually have the factories and design patents and so on.
post #712 of 2546
Plazmapz what has better motion lk450 or sam6000?
post #713 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

Yeah one would think Sharp TVs would have Sharp panels and Samsung TVs would have Samsung panels. I can understand them using other companies like CMO and AUO, but a Samsung TV using a Sharp panel is just weird. Kinda of like a Ford car using a Chevrolet engine.
In this global economy I wouldnt be surprised if the Sharp and Samsung panels both have Chinese components. Most "American" cars have very few American made parts and some are not even assembled in America.
Edited by Bond 007 - 10/11/12 at 8:48pm
post #714 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

Cxxx means CMO S-MVA... I think you're the first to post this panel version on the EH6000.
How are the viewing angles? I know this panel tech (S-MVA) on the LNxxD630 was known for a very uniform screen but with a pretty limited viewing angle. How are the blacks?
Regarding input lag, game mode can help OR you can label the input as "PC". However, I personally just use movie mode with all picture enhancements and noise reduction off (you can also turn off AMP to further reduce input lag, but motion blur will get worse).

Hi PlasmaP and and everyone else,After having this tv for 3 days now i have to say im disappointed.The Viewing angles are pretty bad for me,cant move 2 feet without the picture looking just plain awful.The blacks are bluish,and no matter what
i put the AMP on or shut it off i get ghosting and and a purple like streak when playing games.Played RE6 on the 55inch Sammy and it was awful,ghosting and purple trailing on dark scenes.Tried Dishonered,not as bad
with the ghosting but the purple trailing is still there.Does a decent job on Blu-ray and HD picture but on fast scenes i get ghosting,even my wife noticed it and she never says anything about the TV picture.Im
sure this is a wonderful TV for most but im having a hard time enjoying it.I wanna give it a shot still but i don't know what else i could do,it's the panel or maybe just a lemon i guess.Like i said, im sure it's a Fantastic TV
but for me right now im not very happy with it.
Edited by HDMaDnEsS - 10/12/12 at 3:24pm
post #715 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U

Cxxx means CMO S-MVA... I think you're the first to post this panel version on the EH6000.
How are the viewing angles? I know this panel tech (S-MVA) on the LNxxD630 was known for a very uniform screen but with a pretty limited viewing angle. How are the blacks?
Regarding input lag, game mode can help OR you can label the input as "PC". However, I personally just use movie mode with all picture enhancements and noise reduction off (you can also turn off AMP to further reduce input lag, but motion blur will get worse).

SQ01 Panel on the Samsung LNxxD630 has amazing viewing angles. Not as good as plasma but very close. Minimal flashlighting though.
post #716 of 2546
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdkWSy1HTEk alright so i went to check out this easter egg and it looks like pure **** on my UN46EH6000 It's literally completely pixelated and blurry. I changed sharpness from 0 to 100 it makes no difference. Am I missing something here? I thought this TV was supposed to be pretty legit? how do I clear up the picture? ?? Or what tv should i get to replace it? LG?
post #717 of 2546
Okay so back with the 65EH6000 here after a few weeks. I have decided to keep it, after thinking pretty hard about it. I was leaning toward a 65" plasma, but decided to stick with this.

Coming from a 5 year old Toshiba 62HM196, it is a huge upgrade in picture quality. Clarity of the picture, uniformity and blacks are a huge improvement. I was concerned having seen other LCD panels that look super-real (ie: fake), but that is probably because they leave on all the motion stuff. I got a very acceptable picture by using the settings recommended on here, but I will have a proper calibration done now that I have decided to keep it.

The uniformity seems excellent to me. There has been a touch of clouding here and there, but it is slight (nothing like my S-IPS 24" monitor) and not noticeable except on an all-black screen. I have noticed slight digital banding occasionally, but it is an improvement compared to the banding that was present on my other set - and not as bad as many I have seen.

I would actually give my old DLP the edge in display of SD content, but it's not a primary consideration, and it will just encourage me to upgrade what is left of my DVD collection. I suspect the higher picture clarity causes SD content to look worse in comparison more than anything else.

With my 9-10ft seating distance, the viewing angles are bad. Since the only other displays in my house are a 24" S-IPS monitor and the DLP, they seem really bad. Sitting straight on from 9 feet, I can lean side to side (can't be more than 10 degrees off center) and see the sides of the screen fade out and lose color. This is what had me considering a plasma.

Given my current room, this is as good as it gets for me for now. I expect to be leaving this apartment by end of summer, so ultimately this was not a dealbreaker for me. I am considering putting it on a mount on the wall - but again, I'll be leaving this place soon so I am not sure if I won't just put up with it as is. There is one place off-angle that I can get a look at it at about 14ft (about a 25 degrees of center), and it is hard to notice any fading from there. I think the 9' distance is just pushing it for this panel's viewing angle capabilities.

Other than this issue, I have tried games and movies and sports, and am very happy with the panel overall. I don't notice any ghosting or the purple streaking they have mentioned elsewhere.
post #718 of 2546
how do you enter the service menu on the UN60EH6000? Thanks
post #719 of 2546
Question regarding AMP for USB media. Occasionally, we'll miss a show, so it's downloaded from sources such as FX or ABC and put on a USB drive, usually an .mkv file or .mp4 . Works great, but video from the USB drive has major issues with the SOE, like AMP on steroids. I couldn't even replicate how bad it is on an HDMI source with the AMP settings set to 10 & 10.

There doesn't seem to me a way to customize video settings for the USB media source? Is there a way I may be missing?

Thanks
post #720 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

Sound like the CMO S-MVA panel is really bad on the EH6000. Try to get a Samsung S-PVA instead; it still won't be perfect but should be FAR better than what you have described with your set.
Look for Version: Txxx (my 46" is TS02)
One other thing to ask is did you calibrate your TV to some extent (and try Movie mode)? Movie mode turns off a lot of crap by default which can help minimize ghosting/blurring. Also be sure to turn off Digital NR and try setting AMP to Clear or Custom: BR 10 and JR 0. Also, are your source devices set up properly (correct resolution, video levels (16-235) and correct HDMI color space (RGB vs. YCbCr)? If you were to connect another TV to this setup, is everything running normal?
HDMI Black Level should be low for Standard/Limited RGB levels and normal for Expanded/Full RGB levels; doesn't apply to YCbCr signals, which are always 16-235 video levels.

Yes i was playing it on movie mode most of the the time with the BR at 10 and JR at 0,tried all the rgb setting on my 360,PS3,Satelite box,Blu-ray player and ofcourse the TV itself.
Played around with the Amp on Clear,Custom,and Smooth,tried my 2 year old Sony tv plays fine with every device.Went to two of my local Best buys and a HHgregs and they all are CHO1 on the box,
Made the managers bring out every box he had in the back at my local best buy,no luck..So where do i go from here i just want my new TV to play Decent,do i go with a different model or try the same one,but they all are CH01?At my local Best buy and HHgregs ,they have a Sony KDL55BX520 LED, Samsung PN60E530 Plasma, that were pretty nice and with in my price range,Don't know which to go with just
don't want these problems anymore.Wish i could find a TS02 model of this Sammy in 46 or 55 inches but none are to be found around here.Im sure this TV is amazing if you get the right panel....
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