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post #841 of 2546
I was almost sold on the UN65EH6000, and a full array (well, yes I read Samsung reduced te LEDs behind the panel), but there just seems to be so many problems wtih this set from this forum. And I don't like how the set will shut off LEDs if the section of the TV is dark, and it is NOT controlled in the menu settings (Playing Skyrim for example, per a few posts on this forum).

So seeing how there are different sizes of this TV, is there ANY chance the 65" has more LEDs behind it due to the screen size being the biggest Samsung offers for htis line, and that the uniformity issues from the LEDs are lessened?
post #842 of 2546
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Originally Posted by CyberCT View Post

I was almost sold on the UN65EH6000, and a full array (well, yes I read Samsung reduced te LEDs behind the panel), but there just seems to be so many problems wtih this set from this forum. And I don't like how the set will shut off LEDs if the section of the TV is dark, and it is NOT controlled in the menu settings (Playing Skyrim for example, per a few posts on this forum).
So seeing how there are different sizes of this TV, is there ANY chance the 65" has more LEDs behind it due to the screen size being the biggest Samsung offers for htis line, and that the uniformity issues from the LEDs are lessened?
Very unlikely IMO. It almost certainly has more LEDs but the ratio (# per square inch) is most likely the same. Uniformity issues in general are more likely the bigger the screen gets and the 65 uses the same tech as the rest of the eh series.
post #843 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Read pages 27-29.

I looked at pages 27-29. I do see people having issues with the EH6000 but I could not figure out why the MSRP of the EH6000 is so much more than the EH6030.
post #844 of 2546
Is that UN55EH6001 or 6000? Typo?

I went through many posts but I cant conclusively say that 6030 is better than 6000. There are people who have issues even with 6030. Also are all the issues people seeing with 6000 only due to other panels or the TSXX panels also.

I really dont need 3D or any smart features. So if the 6000 with the TSXX panels has no issues, I am leaning towards that. I dont mind if there is slight motion blur. When things are moving fast on the screen, I dont think I can say if there is a blur. I also dont use them for any video games. But if there is a strong purple trail, that would be noticeable.

Even though the price of $799 looks low, when you add the tax, 2 yr in-home plan, it comes to $1000 and that is a lot of money to live with any issues.

These big companies dont always have someone at AVS as they know that more people will walk into Best Buy and buy these TV's and never notice any issues or check for the panel type, than the people here. So they may never know the issues with other panels, unless there are a lot of returns of the non Samsung panels and someone figures out the common things to all those returns is the non Samsung panels. That may not happen before Black Friday or in the next few of months.

I have a Sony KDLEX46 model which I bought some 2 yrs ago. I first got the Samsung 46" LED but after looking at the black level of the Sony at the store, I returned the Samsung and got the Sony. I didnt have time to do any research on what panels Sony uses. This would be the case with most people who buy at Best Buy and so all the findings here may just go unnoticed if Samsung has no presence here unlike the smaller ID companies who make audio gear which are directed mainly towards folks at AVS and other forums.

Big companies are very slow to react to issues as they are more concerned about their stock going down due to any bad publicity. So they are not going to admit that some panels are bad, especially during the holiday season. It is not like gas pedal failures in cars that could be fatal. Where as smaller ID companies who make audio gear and who have a presence at AVS get to the issues a lot faster.

Anyway...

When I checked at BB, they didnt have the 55EH6000 or 55EH6030 on display. I will go this weekend and see if I can take a look at them. May be ABS Warehouse has them on display. I looked at the 50EH6000 right next to the 51" Samsung plasma and I didnt not see any issues at all with the EH6000. I watch my 46" LED with backlight at 5 and still that is too bright for me. I prefer the lesser brightness of the plasma but the reflective screen and burn-in (which is still an issue) are deal breakers even though the 51" plasma was $799. If I can get the 55EH6000 or even the 50EH6000 for $799, I would go with that than the plasma. Also plasma may be too heavy and the box depth may not fit in my Civic.
post #845 of 2546
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Originally Posted by allyn View Post

Still on the fence?
Black Friday at Best Buy
https://blackfriday.bestbuy.com/
UN40EH6030 $497.99
UN46EH6030 $647.99
UN55EH6001 $799.99
UN65EH6000 $1497.99

Thanks.
Now, reading the first ten pages of this there was nothing but clouding complaints.
In these last five pages, nothing.
Did the T**** panels make this a non issue for everyone?
Going to BB to look around.
post #846 of 2546
I found this on HD Guru, hope it helps to answer your question.. Samsung UN55EH6001 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED HDTV (Black)Amazon Now $1133.99.72 Best Buy Black Friday model is a derivative (number UN55EH6001) It’s similar except it lacks PC/DVI audio input and has a different edge color BF $799.99
post #847 of 2546
How is the SOE of the eh6000? Also what is the deal with the faint black lines I have been seeing on here? Is this something that is inherently wrong with all sets?
post #848 of 2546
For anyone that owns the UN65EH6000, can you discuss the picture quality and glare? The Best Buy price is pretty good, but I don't want to shell out $1,500 for a pile of crap. I've been looking at the UN60ES6100, however, Consumer Reports rates the EH higher in picture quality and overall rating. Just wanted to hear some thoughts from actual owners.

Thanks!!
post #849 of 2546
Looks like Best Buy changed their minds. They've changed the web site and NONE of the Samsung sets are listed any longer.
post #850 of 2546
Just got my 55" EH6000 at Walmart for $995.
I like it!!!
I also have a Samsung UN46D6400 I use a computer monitor.

My current settings are:

Mode Standard
Backlight 16
Contrast 100
Brightness 50
Sharpness 50
Color 50
Tint G50/R50

Adv. Settings:
Color Space Auto

White Balance: Default
R-Offset 25
G-Offset 25
B-Offset 25
R-Gain 25
G-Gain 25
B-Gain 25
Gamma 0
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Black tone Off
Flesh tone 0
Motion Lighting Off

Picture Options:
Color Tone Standard
Size 16:9
Digital Noise Filter Off
HDMI Level Normal (greyed out)
Film mode Off
Auto Motion Clear
Blur 9
Judder 10
LED Motion Off

I got these settings from averaging what others have done on this forum.
Any suggestions on changes?
Edited by rcmark - 11/9/12 at 5:12pm
post #851 of 2546
Double post please delete!
Edited by rcmark - 11/9/12 at 5:53pm
post #852 of 2546
I've owned the 46" 6100 and currently own the 46" 6000. The PQ of the 6000 is much better than the 6100's. The 6100's clouding was so distracting and degrading to its picture that I returned the 6100 3 hours after purchasing it. Hopefully this answers your question (whoever was asking about the 6000 vs 6100)...
post #853 of 2546
Hello All,

I've been following this thread for some time now and am interested in purchasing either the 60" or 65" eh6000. Its seems the consensus here is that the "best" overall panel is the TSxx (Samsung) version. Does anyone know whether or not Samsung makes 60" or 65" panels? I don't remember reading anyone reporting their version with a 60 or 65 size eh6000.

Thank you for all the informative discussion.
post #854 of 2546
My 46" just came in the mail from Amazon. ( $9 next day saturday delivery with Prime )

It's a CS01 panel and Firmware version 1018. I've calibrated it, but it hasn't been easy. My only source is a HTPC. When connected through my AVR, I get tons of issues I never had with my old Samsung.

The audio and video cuts out for a second randomly.. about once a minute sitting on the windows desktop, and sometimes 10 times a minute watching movies through XBMC.

There are lines of bright pixels that randomly show up on the screen constantly. They range from a quarter inch long to 2-3 inches.

Going directly from HTPC to TV, these problems go away, but video playback through XBMC is impossible. Any MKV file I try to play comes out stuttering badly. I'd guess it's hitting about 10FPS, and the mouse is jerky along with the frame stuttering. Netflix and Hulu play fine however.

I've got a Geffin HDMI Detective coming, but I'm not sure whether to expect that it'll take care all of the issues I'm having with the AVR in between. Maybe I'll be trying my frist TV return with Amazon next week.

EDIT: I skimmed through most of this thread. Someone said there was a Blue-Only Mode, but then I wondered why there were people talking about getting glasses/films. I'm guessing that's why I'm having trouble finding the blue-only mode--it doesn't exist?
Edited by erc - 11/10/12 at 1:48pm
post #855 of 2546
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Originally Posted by erc View Post

My 46" just came in the mail from Amazon. ( $9 next day saturday delivery with Prime )
It's a CS01 panel and Firmware version 1018. I've calibrated it, but it hasn't been easy. My only source is a HTPC. When connected through my AVR, I get tons of issues I never had with my old Samsung.
The audio and video cuts out for a second randomly.. about once a minute sitting on the windows desktop, and sometimes 10 times a minute watching movies through XBMC.
There are lines of bright pixels that randomly show up on the screen constantly. They range from a quarter inch long to 2-3 inches.
Going directly from HTPC to TV, these problems go away, but video playback through XBMC is impossible. Any MKV file I try to play comes out stuttering badly. I'd guess it's hitting about 10FPS, and the mouse is jerky along with the frame stuttering. Netflix and Hulu play fine however.
I've got a Geffin HDMI Detective coming, but I'm not sure whether to expect that it'll take care all of the issues I'm having with the AVR in between. Maybe I'll be trying my frist TV return with Amazon next week.
EDIT: I skimmed through most of this thread. Someone said there was a Blue-Only Mode, but then I wondered why there were people talking about getting glasses/films. I'm guessing that's why I'm having trouble finding the blue-only mode--it doesn't exist?
Never heard of a "blue-only mode".
post #856 of 2546
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

It's on the sticker outside the box. There's a picture in the link in my sig.
All versions starting with Txxx should be a S-PVA panel made by S-LCD for Samsung. I believe the numbers are supposed to indicate where the panel was made (there are a couple different facilities where they manufacture the panels)
I don't know that the TS01 guarantees better picture than a TS02. You would probably have to compare two identical models, one with each T panel. Models with different refresh rates should have different panels even with the same version code, but they should all be S-PVA. Examining the subpixels would also help to identify what kind of S-PVA it is. I wouldn't necessarily hold out for a TS01, I would just try and find any T panel and get that. It could be hard to find one, but if there are plenty of them then by all means get whichever you want.

how would you be able to guarantee getting a TS01 from say BestBuy? I was thinking about asking for this TV (EH6030FXZA) for Christmas on Black Friday so I will not be the one picking it up in person.. thanks
post #857 of 2546
I've seen a lot of people mention a "PC Mode" but haven't found anything about it in the manual or in the menus. I'm using "Screen Fit" for the size, which seems to be doing 1:1 pixel mapping, at least the test patterns look good that way.

16:9 overscans quite a bit.

The manual mentions a lot of settings that are conditional if the TV is connected to a PC, but I couldn't find where it explained how it knew a PC was the input, or whether there was a setting specifically for that mode.
post #858 of 2546
Hey folks.... think I have a problem here. I've been noticing a 1 inch bar at top of screen that is darker than the rest of the screen. It occurs irregularly when I turn on the TV. To clear the bar, I just turn off and then turn back on. Warranty time???

Here's some pics of the bar:

IMG_2414.jpg
IMG_2413.jpg

Here's the pic after I turn off and turn on (bar gone):
IMG_2415.jpg
post #859 of 2546
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Originally Posted by erc View Post

I've seen a lot of people mention a "PC Mode" but haven't found anything about it in the manual or in the menus. I'm using "Screen Fit" for the size, which seems to be doing 1:1 pixel mapping, at least the test patterns look good that way.
16:9 overscans quite a bit.
The manual mentions a lot of settings that are conditional if the TV is connected to a PC, but I couldn't find where it explained how it knew a PC was the input, or whether there was a setting specifically for that mode.

There is no "PC" mode mentioned in the manual. If you rename the input to the "PC" label the screen will flicker and you will be in a different mode with it's own settings. This mode also doesn't subsample, so it's a little sharper.
post #860 of 2546
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Originally Posted by ryker99 View Post

Hey folks.... think I have a problem here. I've been noticing a 1 inch bar at top of screen that is darker than the rest of the screen. It occurs irregularly when I turn on the TV. To clear the bar, I just turn off and then turn back on. Warranty time???

Have you tried a factory reset?
post #861 of 2546
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

There is no "PC" mode mentioned in the manual. If you rename the input to the "PC" label the screen will flicker and you will be in a different mode with it's own settings. This mode also doesn't subsample, so it's a little sharper.

Thanks for the info.

Still having lots of trouble with the HTPC. Once in a while the entire screen turns pink or purple like the tint is way off. If I change any of the graphics settings (color mode, resolution, frequency, etc) the TV goes back to Normal. If I try to set the frequency/refresh rate to 60p in the Intel driver settings, I get the screen turning off and on and those weird pixels flashing all over the place.

I wonder if all of these issues are related to the CS01 panel.
post #862 of 2546
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Originally Posted by erc View Post

Thanks for the info.
Still having lots of trouble with the HTPC. Once in a while the entire screen turns pink or purple like the tint is way off. If I change any of the graphics settings (color mode, resolution, frequency, etc) the TV goes back to Normal. If I try to set the frequency/refresh rate to 60p in the Intel driver settings, I get the screen turning off and on and those weird pixels flashing all over the place.
I wonder if all of these issues are related to the CS01 panel.

I doubt they are related to what panel tech it uses. It sounds like software problems, either from the computers HDMI output or the TV's board. I would try resetting the TV and also try hooking it another computer to see if it happens with multiple computers.
post #863 of 2546
I've had my 46" EH6000 TS02 from amazon for about 2 weeks. it wasn't too bad to calibrate to what I think looks good.
However, I've noticed the four corners of the tv or slightly darker than the rest of the screen. Vignetting is the term I believe. Its significant enough that my wife picked it up. Has anyone had this issue? I called samsung and sending someone to look at it.
post #864 of 2546
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Originally Posted by mex2309 View Post

I've had my 46" EH6000 TS02 from amazon for about 2 weeks. it wasn't too bad to calibrate to what I think looks good.
However, I've noticed the four corners of the tv or slightly darker than the rest of the screen. Vignetting is the term I believe. Its significant enough that my wife picked it up. Has anyone had this issue? I called samsung and sending someone to look at it.

How much vignetting? You could take a picture on an all white screen and upload it...
post #865 of 2546
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Originally Posted by mex2309 View Post

I've had my 46" EH6000 TS02 from amazon for about 2 weeks. it wasn't too bad to calibrate to what I think looks good.
However, I've noticed the four corners of the tv or slightly darker than the rest of the screen. Vignetting is the term I believe. Its significant enough that my wife picked it up. Has anyone had this issue? I called samsung and sending someone to look at it.

I have an identical set (specs) and also noticed this after I had used it for a little while. However it was mild enough and only at the very edges so I didn't return the set or ask for warranty service. I don't think it's my imagination but the issue has improved over time (owned the set for 6 months now). I think some of the pixels in the corners may "wake up" as they're used for longer, or possibly the calibration I did may have helped. I've also heard (although it sounds snake oil-ish to me) that "massaging" the screen with a non-abrasive cloth in some areas can have positive results. Worth a try?
post #866 of 2546


Chicolom: That's the screen, the vignetting is very noticeable in white backgrounds.

Do you think the service tech will be able to fix it? If not, what do you think Samsung will do to try to correct this?
post #867 of 2546
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Originally Posted by mex2309 View Post


Chicolom: That's the screen, the vignetting is very noticeable in white backgrounds.
Do you think the service tech will be able to fix it? If not, what do you think Samsung will do to try to correct this?

It looks like the right hand side of the screen might have a little darker vertical band.


I doubt that's something a tech could do anything about.

I don't see that vertical band on the right side on mine (40"), but maybe that's normal for that screens size. My corners are also a little dark, which I think is a normal. I don't expect the TV to be able to light the corners all that well when it's got such a slim bezel around the corners.


Here's mine:

post #868 of 2546
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post

I have it and it's great. I prefer it over the 5000 and 6000 (both which I had before). If you get it, be sure to get panel "Version: TS01".
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN46EH6030FXZA

How do you check for a "TS01" panel? Is it written on the box or the TV itself?
post #869 of 2546
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd View Post

How do you check for a "TS01" panel? Is it written on the box or the TV itself?


Look at my sig....
post #870 of 2546
The 50" is on sake for 799 at best buy this week. Any thoughts on if it's a good buy at that price vs others out there?

Thanks!
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