Official Samsung UNXXEH6000 Owners' Thread - Page 33

Originally Posted by Mupi 

Yep they had a big lot of 55" 6001 models and all were AH or CH. I knew I would be returning it. Since no one mentioned the AH version here, I thought I would try it.
Looks like Samsung does bother to do any quality checks on the panels. Shouldn't they be checking how the other panels perform compared to their TS or TH panels? Why flood the market with lousy panels? They deserve to take back all the returned panels. I am sure they will sell them back as refurbished TV's for $990 after the holiday season and some unlucky guy is going to fall for that price.
I guess I would go back to SONY and read up if they also use so many panels. When I bought my 46" SONY 2 yrs ago , I didnt do any research at all. I was only researching the Samsung LCD/LED TV's. But when saw the Samsung and SONY side by side at BB, it was a no brainer. I returned 2 Samsung TV's and got the SONY.

Originally Posted by p51mustang 

I just picked up a Samsung UN55EH6001FXZA and so far I'm not happy with it. It has that horrible soap opera/video look and has frequent screen tears and jerkiness with any kind of fast motion. It is driving me nuts. I am so sorry I bought this thing. The 51" looked ok in the store, I had been looking at a Sharp Aquos 52" and was pretty happy with the picture on that, should have just gotten thta. I don't care for this TV at all. Even if I can turn off the image interpolation or whatever is causing the Mexican soap opera look, I'm not sure I'm interested in keeping this set.

Originally Posted by clutchm3 

Man this sucks, I have mine ordered for delivery and I canot cancel it. Guess I will get it dropped off, check it out and return the moment after. So the AH01 and CH01 is not good. Those are the only Panels avail for that?

Originally Posted by p51mustang 

Ok, I set the Digital Noise Reduction back to auto and I think that is what is causing the pixellation and screen tearing. I didn't notice any of that when I had it turned off.
My impressions so far: if you make the adjustments I noted and you're using a good source, it is an ok TV and $800 is I imagine a fair price. Would not pay $1500 based on what I saw out of the box. You'll need to see what you think and if you're happy with the quality. I think I'm going to try and do a return for the Aquos as I was more impressed by that picture in the store.

Originally Posted by p51mustang 

BTW how do you know what version of the panel you have? I'd be curious to confirm if I have one of the garbage panels.

Originally Posted by Schwiing 

Says so on the version # on the back, and also if you enter the service menu, it tells you too. Also on the Box. Can't miss it.

Originally Posted by p51mustang 

It says version CH02. So this is not the bad panel? If this is the good panel, I hate to see the bad. Maybe it is the source I'm using it with. It is just standard def cable. I still need to try a DVD and see what that is like.
Am I going to be happy with the Aquos? Would I be better off with the 55" Viera class Panasonic? I think it was about $800 or $900. I'm not that big into the 3d, but if the picture is tons better I don't really care. As long as I can turn off the soap-opera look.

Originally Posted by Schwiing 

Turning off all motion processing will get rid of the soap-opera look. Since I hooked mine up to a PC, this is especially important (since I want no input lag). As far as the "bad panel", honestly, I think you can get a bad panel regardless of manufacturer. Samsung wouldn't buy from Chi Mei if they were all junk. And as far as I read, most UN50EH6000s (50" model) are Chi Mei panels. Regardless, if you see no issues when you turn it on, regardless of manufacturer, then you're good to go. Tweak the settings to your liking, and turn off all the motion processing.
As far as the Aquos or Panasonic..sure, they might be good displays, but it depends on what you're looking for. For me, I was looking for a TV without all the "extras" (3D/smart apps), and for one that is backlit (not edge) since the thickness of the display doesn't matter to me (hangs on the wall..who cares). Picture quality is the most important in my book

Originally Posted by Schwiing 

The UN50EH6000 is workin out for me so far. I replaced my Vizio XVT3D474SV, which had all the nonsense features, but was a full array, with local dimming set for < $1000. It was incredibly unreliable however...replaced/repaired it 4 times throughout the first year. Honestly, it all depends on what features you want:
Here's what I looked for:
1) LED Backlit (not edge)
2) Local Dimming
3) Good price
4) Good reviews
The Un50EH6000 fit the bill, sans Local dimming.
But the only other options I had were either the Vizio, or a Sony XBR, which, as you know, are extremely expensive.
Plasmas are less bright, but have excellent image quality, though I opted out of plasmas since I'm using mine for my PC, and can't take the risk of image retention.
So, I'd recommend exchanging yours for another UN50(or55)EH6000. I think you just got a bad set.
Hope that helps!

Originally Posted by LeftyTwoGuns 

Turning off the Digital Noise Filter seems to have helped my jittering problem a lot. Assassin's Creed 3 is gorgeous on this T.V and I haven't even really messed with settings yet. Can't wait to check out some Blurays.

Originally Posted by clutchm3 

Man this sucks, I have mine ordered for delivery and I canot cancel it. Guess I will get it dropped off, check it out and return the moment after. So the AH01 and CH01 is not good. Those are the only Panels avail for that?

Originally Posted by p51mustang 

I still need to try a DVD with it. I was so frustrated last night I just went to bed.
I am probably going to take this back, I haven't seen the image tearing like last night again, maybe it was the signal. I hate to think that I keep this TV though and it starts acting up again. I may just take it back and get the Aquos. I've read good reviews on the Sharp LC-52LE640U, I can't afford to spend $2k on TV, absolute most I want to spend is $1200 to $1500. Anyone have any words of warning about the Aquos, or recommendations for good alternatives in the 50 to 55" range?

Originally Posted by Crawlin 

I just picked up the 55" 6001 from best buy as well. it is listed as a CH02 on the box. Thought about the other options like the Panasonic they had same size for 899, but had read some reviews that weren't favorable as well on that one, and I'm not a 3D viewing person.
Earlier in this thread, post 897 lists some setups to try. I saw others mention this post.
I tried Gexxxy's setup with the movie mode. Picture looks incredible. Has the look that fits what my eyes like. Seems like you are just looking through a plate of glass.
However, any fast action has the pixelation or maybe thats the "screen tear" people are talking about. Its just the small area in which the fast action is at.
It will be interesting to see what an actual fast paced movie will look like versus what I'm currently watching (Paul). Probably gonna try one of the Transformer movies at some point.
One thing I did notice, is if you take the "automotion" to clear, you cannot set the blur and judder setting it grays them out. So I set it to custom and set the blur and judder to their respective numbers.
When you change it from those settings and go to off/clear/etc... the picture detail drops. Its still a high quality image, but the "realism" of the image is reduced.
If I can figure out how to adjust it to get rid of that pixelation without giving up the image that I was hoping for out of this TV.
Another cool video to watch for detail and setup, for the snowboarders out there, is Travis Rice's Art of Flight. Amazing mountain scenes and the color vs. white backgrounds is always cool
PS - this is all on an old bluray player. Don't watch tv alot so no cable of any kind, just watch a movie here or there when time allows

Originally Posted by Crawlin 

I just picked up the 55" 6001 from best buy as well. it is listed as a CH02 on the box. Thought about the other options like the Panasonic they had same size for 899, but had read some reviews that weren't favorable as well on that one, and I'm not a 3D viewing person.
Earlier in this thread, post 897 lists some setups to try. I saw others mention this post.
I tried Gexxxy's setup with the movie mode. Picture looks incredible. Has the look that fits what my eyes like. Seems like you are just looking through a plate of glass.
However, any fast action has the pixelation or maybe thats the "screen tear" people are talking about. Its just the small area in which the fast action is at.
It will be interesting to see what an actual fast paced movie will look like versus what I'm currently watching (Paul). Probably gonna try one of the Transformer movies at some point.
One thing I did notice, is if you take the "automotion" to clear, you cannot set the blur and judder setting it grays them out. So I set it to custom and set the blur and judder to their respective numbers.
When you change it from those settings and go to off/clear/etc... the picture detail drops. Its still a high quality image, but the "realism" of the image is reduced.
If I can figure out how to adjust it to get rid of that pixelation without giving up the image that I was hoping for out of this TV.
Another cool video to watch for detail and setup, for the snowboarders out there, is Travis Rice's Art of Flight. Amazing mountain scenes and the color vs. white backgrounds is always cool
PS - this is all on an old bluray player. Don't watch tv alot so no cable of any kind, just watch a movie here or there when time allows

Originally Posted by Mupi 

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out

Originally Posted by Mupi 

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out

Originally Posted by Mupi 

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out