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post #961 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Yep they had a big lot of 55" 6001 models and all were AH or CH. I knew I would be returning it. Since no one mentioned the AH version here, I thought I would try it.
Looks like Samsung does bother to do any quality checks on the panels. Shouldn't they be checking how the other panels perform compared to their TS or TH panels? Why flood the market with lousy panels? They deserve to take back all the returned panels. I am sure they will sell them back as refurbished TV's for $990 after the holiday season and some unlucky guy is going to fall for that price.
I guess I would go back to SONY and read up if they also use so many panels. When I bought my 46" SONY 2 yrs ago , I didnt do any research at all. I was only researching the Samsung LCD/LED TV's. But when saw the Samsung and SONY side by side at BB, it was a no brainer. I returned 2 Samsung TV's and got the SONY.

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Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post

I just picked up a Samsung UN55EH6001FXZA and so far I'm not happy with it. It has that horrible soap opera/video look and has frequent screen tears and jerkiness with any kind of fast motion. It is driving me nuts. I am so sorry I bought this thing. The 51" looked ok in the store, I had been looking at a Sharp Aquos 52" and was pretty happy with the picture on that, should have just gotten thta. I don't care for this TV at all. Even if I can turn off the image interpolation or whatever is causing the Mexican soap opera look, I'm not sure I'm interested in keeping this set.

Man this sucks, I have mine ordered for delivery and I canot cancel it. Guess I will get it dropped off, check it out and return the moment after. So the AH01 and CH01 is not good. Those are the only Panels avail for that?
post #962 of 2546
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Originally Posted by clutchm3 View Post

Man this sucks, I have mine ordered for delivery and I canot cancel it. Guess I will get it dropped off, check it out and return the moment after. So the AH01 and CH01 is not good. Those are the only Panels avail for that?

Well, after much fooling around with the picture settings, I'm not noticing screen tear anymore, or pixellation. I think most of my objections with the picture came from these settings in the Picture Options menu:

Film mode: default ON, I turned off
Auto motion plus: default STANDARD, I set it to clear
LED Motion plus: made sure this was turned off

Turning the above on gives you that weird depth of field/soap opera/ video look. I also turned off the digital noise reduction which may also have been causing some of the jerkiness.

It is an ok set but I think I preferred the look of the Sharp Aquos 52" model. It also had more HDMI inputs. I had to go for "bigger is better" though. frown.gif
55" is almost too big for my room, I don't think I'll notice much difference with a 52".

I'm going to try turning the noise reduction back on and see if that makes things worse or better. It could also have been maybe that the TV needed to warm up, I tried setting it back to the factory settings and while that brought back the awful soap opera look, I was not getting the screen tear so maybe it just had to warm up a bit.

I'm going to pop Bladerunner in my DVD player and see how that looks. I'm using a crappy standard def cable signal, which after making the adjustments to the advanced image settings honestly doesn't look too bad. I also want to see how this looks with HD before I make a final call but I need to hook up an antenna to see what over-the-air HD looks like (I have no HD cable or blu-ray for testing).
post #963 of 2546
The 6030 model is almost a guaranteed TS01 from what i've read (and the fact that the one i just got is TS01) and is actually cheaper from a lot of places (although maybe not now that black friday is over). Of course it's only available in 2 sizes, so that might be a factor.


Someone earlier mentioned glare, and just a warning the 6030 has a lot of glare with the lights on if there's a lot of black on screen or the screen is dark. The 4 corners are also darker than the rest of the picture, but it's very minor (the darkness only extends about 1/4 of an inch. The viewing angle is pretty good from what i can tell, which is surprising because i hear it wasn't so great. So far so good with this set. Anyone else have this model and agree with me? Can't wait to receive my Blu-ray player and actually watch some HD content (best i saw today was 720p football... i really wish they would move on from that).
post #964 of 2546
Ok, I set the Digital Noise Reduction back to auto and I think that is what is causing the pixellation and screen tearing. I didn't notice any of that when I had it turned off.

My impressions so far: if you make the adjustments I noted and you're using a good source, it is an ok TV and $800 is I imagine a fair price. Would not pay $1500 based on what I saw out of the box. You'll need to see what you think and if you're happy with the quality. I think I'm going to try and do a return for the Aquos as I was more impressed by that picture in the store.
post #965 of 2546
Got my UN50EH6000 today. Hooked it up to my computer via HDMI. Picture looks great! Still have to mess with the settings, but I don't see any issues so far with about ~30m of use. I also was afraid of the results since I have a CH01 panel, but it seems to be going strong.
post #966 of 2546
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Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post

Ok, I set the Digital Noise Reduction back to auto and I think that is what is causing the pixellation and screen tearing. I didn't notice any of that when I had it turned off.
My impressions so far: if you make the adjustments I noted and you're using a good source, it is an ok TV and $800 is I imagine a fair price. Would not pay $1500 based on what I saw out of the box. You'll need to see what you think and if you're happy with the quality. I think I'm going to try and do a return for the Aquos as I was more impressed by that picture in the store.

Damn, still getting screen tear, even with the DNR off. Not sure if it is my cable or the TV but it is pretty bad. I never noticed anything like this with my old 32" Aquos, so my guess is it is the TV and not the signal. If I try a DVD and I get the same thing I am for sure taking this thing back and getting the Aquos or maybe the Panasonic Viera.
post #967 of 2546
BTW how do you know what version of the panel you have? I'd be curious to confirm if I have one of the garbage panels.
post #968 of 2546
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Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post

BTW how do you know what version of the panel you have? I'd be curious to confirm if I have one of the garbage panels.

Says so on the version # on the back, and also if you enter the service menu, it tells you too. Also on the Box. Can't miss it.
post #969 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Schwiing View Post

Says so on the version # on the back, and also if you enter the service menu, it tells you too. Also on the Box. Can't miss it.

It says version CH02. So this is not the bad panel? If this is the good panel, I hate to see the bad. Maybe it is the source I'm using it with. It is just standard def cable. I still need to try a DVD and see what that is like.

Am I going to be happy with the Aquos? Would I be better off with the 55" Viera class Panasonic? I think it was about $800 or $900. I'm not that big into the 3d, but if the picture is tons better I don't really care. As long as I can turn off the soap-opera look.
post #970 of 2546
First time poster here

I picked up the UN40EH6000FXZA from Best Buy today for $550 to finally replace my ancient tube T.V . Feels good to finally step into the HD world.

I personally love the 120hz effect that other people don't seem to like. I don't like it in overwhelming proportions but I do like it there in balance, as I think it adds more depth to the picture. But when playing Assassin's Creed 3 on the 360 (I'll be mainly using the T.V for gaming and Blu-ray) I noticed that there is a bit of that 120hz feeling there but some times there is jittering and sluggishness. I haven't tried any other games yet or watched any Blu-ray. Cable looks like absolute garbage but I expected as much because we have basic cable (the HD channels looks pretty good) Seems like the character movement is smooth and pops but a lot of the background can jitter and stutter. Is that just the game or is that my settings? I haven't messed with any settings seriously as I'm a complete noob when it comes to that. But as good as the T.V looks I haven't seen anything in my room yet that looks as good as the display model did. Anyone have any suggestions or a guide of some sort that explains what all these settings do?

That being said, I think it's a great T.V. especially for the price. Colors even at default settings are really deep and pop. The black levels are what impress me the most so far. Dark scenes have lots of sharp detail and loading screens are so dark it looks like my T.V turned off. And you also realize how ugly a lot of people are when you watch the HD chanels tongue.gif
post #971 of 2546
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Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post

It says version CH02. So this is not the bad panel? If this is the good panel, I hate to see the bad. Maybe it is the source I'm using it with. It is just standard def cable. I still need to try a DVD and see what that is like.
Am I going to be happy with the Aquos? Would I be better off with the 55" Viera class Panasonic? I think it was about $800 or $900. I'm not that big into the 3d, but if the picture is tons better I don't really care. As long as I can turn off the soap-opera look.

Turning off all motion processing will get rid of the soap-opera look. Since I hooked mine up to a PC, this is especially important (since I want no input lag). As far as the "bad panel", honestly, I think you can get a bad panel regardless of manufacturer. Samsung wouldn't buy from Chi Mei if they were all junk. And as far as I read, most UN50EH6000s (50" model) are Chi Mei panels. Regardless, if you see no issues when you turn it on, regardless of manufacturer, then you're good to go. Tweak the settings to your liking, and turn off all the motion processing.

As far as the Aquos or Panasonic..sure, they might be good displays, but it depends on what you're looking for. For me, I was looking for a TV without all the "extras" (3D/smart apps), and for one that is backlit (not edge) since the thickness of the display doesn't matter to me (hangs on the wall..who cares). Picture quality is the most important in my book
post #972 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Schwiing View Post

Turning off all motion processing will get rid of the soap-opera look. Since I hooked mine up to a PC, this is especially important (since I want no input lag). As far as the "bad panel", honestly, I think you can get a bad panel regardless of manufacturer. Samsung wouldn't buy from Chi Mei if they were all junk. And as far as I read, most UN50EH6000s (50" model) are Chi Mei panels. Regardless, if you see no issues when you turn it on, regardless of manufacturer, then you're good to go. Tweak the settings to your liking, and turn off all the motion processing.
As far as the Aquos or Panasonic..sure, they might be good displays, but it depends on what you're looking for. For me, I was looking for a TV without all the "extras" (3D/smart apps), and for one that is backlit (not edge) since the thickness of the display doesn't matter to me (hangs on the wall..who cares). Picture quality is the most important in my book

Well, maybe I just got a bad panel but so far I have seen nothing but pixellation and screen tearing with this TV.

I don't really care about 3d, smart tv BS or how thin it is, either. I would like a 50 to 55" TV with good picture quality for plain old movie watching (and maybe some gaming by hooking up a PC to it) and preferably don't want to pay more than $1k. I could go as high as $1200, but don't want to spend more than that.
Any specific recommendations given my above preferences?

Hopefully they are not going to give me too hard a time about taking it back.
post #973 of 2546
The UN50EH6000 is workin out for me so far. I replaced my Vizio XVT3D474SV, which had all the nonsense features, but was a full array, with local dimming set for < $1000. It was incredibly unreliable however...replaced/repaired it 4 times throughout the first year. Honestly, it all depends on what features you want:

Here's what I looked for:

1) LED Backlit (not edge)
2) Local Dimming
3) Good price
4) Good reviews

The Un50EH6000 fit the bill, sans Local dimming.

But the only other options I had were either the Vizio, or a Sony XBR, which, as you know, are extremely expensive.

Plasmas are less bright, but have excellent image quality, though I opted out of plasmas since I'm using mine for my PC, and can't take the risk of image retention.

So, I'd recommend exchanging yours for another UN50(or55)EH6000. I think you just got a bad set.

Hope that helps!
post #974 of 2546
Turning off the Digital Noise Filter seems to have helped my jittering problem a lot. Assassin's Creed 3 is gorgeous on this T.V and I haven't even really messed with settings yet. Can't wait to check out some Blurays.
post #975 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Schwiing View Post

The UN50EH6000 is workin out for me so far. I replaced my Vizio XVT3D474SV, which had all the nonsense features, but was a full array, with local dimming set for < $1000. It was incredibly unreliable however...replaced/repaired it 4 times throughout the first year. Honestly, it all depends on what features you want:
Here's what I looked for:
1) LED Backlit (not edge)
2) Local Dimming
3) Good price
4) Good reviews
The Un50EH6000 fit the bill, sans Local dimming.
But the only other options I had were either the Vizio, or a Sony XBR, which, as you know, are extremely expensive.
Plasmas are less bright, but have excellent image quality, though I opted out of plasmas since I'm using mine for my PC, and can't take the risk of image retention.
So, I'd recommend exchanging yours for another UN50(or55)EH6000. I think you just got a bad set.
Hope that helps!

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Originally Posted by LeftyTwoGuns View Post

Turning off the Digital Noise Filter seems to have helped my jittering problem a lot. Assassin's Creed 3 is gorgeous on this T.V and I haven't even really messed with settings yet. Can't wait to check out some Blurays.

What Panel version do you guys have and did you get the best buy 6001 version?
post #976 of 2546
I have the 6000 (not 6001) and I have a CH01 panel
post #977 of 2546
Folks, I posted about this before but here's a quick summary: try turning off all AMP, all digital noise reduction, and set Film Mode to Auto for any TV source, then compare how your satellite, cable or OTA HD antenna looks. Next, try setting your Blu-Ray or other source to 1080i (yes, you read that right) and make sure Film Mode is on Auto for that source as well. If you have a 120hz set, Film Mode by itself could do a much better job for your eyes when it comes to smoothness, but you need to let it do the de-interlacing work! Don't give up too early with these 6 series sets--as long as you get a good panel, you need to work with them to make them look their best.
post #978 of 2546
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Originally Posted by clutchm3 View Post

Man this sucks, I have mine ordered for delivery and I canot cancel it. Guess I will get it dropped off, check it out and return the moment after. So the AH01 and CH01 is not good. Those are the only Panels avail for that?


Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.

I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again smile.gif

The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.

May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.


All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!


Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out smile.gif
post #979 of 2546
Hi Guys,

I got the 6001 version yesterday. Its not bad at all. The question you have to ask is how much you would have to spend to get a difference in picture quality. I think you would have to get a full backlit led with micro dimming to notice a difference. Then you are around $1400 I believe. This was a great deal. Its the CH02 panel GO CHINA! LOL I am coming from a CRT SONY XBR 34". My computer is powering everything via hdmi and I am using powerdvd 12 ultra for blu rays. It switches to 24hz when playing the blu rays. I think the best movie to look at is Dark knight.

I messed a lot with the settings:

Mode Movie
Backlight 5
Contrast 89
Brightness 45
Sharpness 25
Color 49
Tint Default
Advanced settings
Color space auto
Gamma 0
Dynamic contrast off
Black tone off
Flesh tone 0

White balance
R offset 26
G offset 24
B offset 25
R gain 24
G gain 25
B gain 21

Picture options
Warm2
Size 16:9
Digitanl Noise filter off
Hdmi black level normal
Film mode is grayed out to off
Auto Motion Plus off
Led MOtion Plus off
post #980 of 2546
I still need to try a DVD with it. I was so frustrated last night I just went to bed.
I am probably going to take this back, I haven't seen the image tearing like last night again, maybe it was the signal. I hate to think that I keep this TV though and it starts acting up again. I may just take it back and get the Aquos. I've read good reviews on the Sharp LC-52LE640U, I can't afford to spend $2k on TV, absolute most I want to spend is $1200 to $1500. Anyone have any words of warning about the Aquos, or recommendations for good alternatives in the 50 to 55" range?
post #981 of 2546
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Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post

I still need to try a DVD with it. I was so frustrated last night I just went to bed.
I am probably going to take this back, I haven't seen the image tearing like last night again, maybe it was the signal. I hate to think that I keep this TV though and it starts acting up again. I may just take it back and get the Aquos. I've read good reviews on the Sharp LC-52LE640U, I can't afford to spend $2k on TV, absolute most I want to spend is $1200 to $1500. Anyone have any words of warning about the Aquos, or recommendations for good alternatives in the 50 to 55" range?

You should hook up a blu ray player, the tv is only going to look as good as the source. Or if you have a laptop with hdmi out put the on the tv, go to youtube and play a gopro3 video in 1080p. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PDXmYoF5U Also remember at best buy you have till January to return it, because its a holiday buy.
post #982 of 2546
I just picked up the 55" 6001 from best buy as well. it is listed as a CH02 on the box. Thought about the other options like the Panasonic they had same size for 899, but had read some reviews that weren't favorable as well on that one, and I'm not a 3D viewing person.

Earlier in this thread, post 897 lists some setups to try. I saw others mention this post.

I tried Gexxxy's setup with the movie mode. Picture looks incredible. Has the look that fits what my eyes like. Seems like you are just looking through a plate of glass.

However, any fast action has the pixelation or maybe thats the "screen tear" people are talking about. Its just the small area in which the fast action is at.

It will be interesting to see what an actual fast paced movie will look like versus what I'm currently watching (Paul). Probably gonna try one of the Transformer movies at some point.

One thing I did notice, is if you take the "automotion" to clear, you cannot set the blur and judder setting it grays them out. So I set it to custom and set the blur and judder to their respective numbers.

When you change it from those settings and go to off/clear/etc... the picture detail drops. Its still a high quality image, but the "realism" of the image is reduced.

If I can figure out how to adjust it to get rid of that pixelation without giving up the image that I was hoping for out of this TV.

Another cool video to watch for detail and setup, for the snowboarders out there, is Travis Rice's Art of Flight. Amazing mountain scenes and the color vs. white backgrounds is always cool

PS - this is all on an old bluray player. Don't watch tv alot so no cable of any kind, just watch a movie here or there when time allows
post #983 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Crawlin View Post

I just picked up the 55" 6001 from best buy as well. it is listed as a CH02 on the box. Thought about the other options like the Panasonic they had same size for 899, but had read some reviews that weren't favorable as well on that one, and I'm not a 3D viewing person.
Earlier in this thread, post 897 lists some setups to try. I saw others mention this post.
I tried Gexxxy's setup with the movie mode. Picture looks incredible. Has the look that fits what my eyes like. Seems like you are just looking through a plate of glass.
However, any fast action has the pixelation or maybe thats the "screen tear" people are talking about. Its just the small area in which the fast action is at.
It will be interesting to see what an actual fast paced movie will look like versus what I'm currently watching (Paul). Probably gonna try one of the Transformer movies at some point.
One thing I did notice, is if you take the "automotion" to clear, you cannot set the blur and judder setting it grays them out. So I set it to custom and set the blur and judder to their respective numbers.
When you change it from those settings and go to off/clear/etc... the picture detail drops. Its still a high quality image, but the "realism" of the image is reduced.
If I can figure out how to adjust it to get rid of that pixelation without giving up the image that I was hoping for out of this TV.
Another cool video to watch for detail and setup, for the snowboarders out there, is Travis Rice's Art of Flight. Amazing mountain scenes and the color vs. white backgrounds is always cool
PS - this is all on an old bluray player. Don't watch tv alot so no cable of any kind, just watch a movie here or there when time allows

Thanks for that link man to the excel! I like thaose settings too, it looks a lot better and deeper now. Also about the tearing, I believe thats when you have the auto motion on, I have it off.
post #984 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Crawlin View Post

I just picked up the 55" 6001 from best buy as well. it is listed as a CH02 on the box. Thought about the other options like the Panasonic they had same size for 899, but had read some reviews that weren't favorable as well on that one, and I'm not a 3D viewing person.
Earlier in this thread, post 897 lists some setups to try. I saw others mention this post.
I tried Gexxxy's setup with the movie mode. Picture looks incredible. Has the look that fits what my eyes like. Seems like you are just looking through a plate of glass.
However, any fast action has the pixelation or maybe thats the "screen tear" people are talking about. Its just the small area in which the fast action is at.
It will be interesting to see what an actual fast paced movie will look like versus what I'm currently watching (Paul). Probably gonna try one of the Transformer movies at some point.
One thing I did notice, is if you take the "automotion" to clear, you cannot set the blur and judder setting it grays them out. So I set it to custom and set the blur and judder to their respective numbers.
When you change it from those settings and go to off/clear/etc... the picture detail drops. Its still a high quality image, but the "realism" of the image is reduced.
If I can figure out how to adjust it to get rid of that pixelation without giving up the image that I was hoping for out of this TV.
Another cool video to watch for detail and setup, for the snowboarders out there, is Travis Rice's Art of Flight. Amazing mountain scenes and the color vs. white backgrounds is always cool
PS - this is all on an old bluray player. Don't watch tv alot so no cable of any kind, just watch a movie here or there when time allows

As a follow up real quick since I'm playing with the settings, using Gexxxy's standard mode settings, the Art of Flight snowboard bluray with the very fast paced images that would get slightly pixelated previously have not done the same on this setting. Weird though because it seems the settings that would relate to this issue are not changed between the two. I am a noob when it comes to this tech stuff so I may be wrong.

This movie is the whole reason I wanted a new TV with the winter coming up, haha. Getting excited for a couple trips out west, hahaha.
post #985 of 2546
I used the movie mode from the excel. I like that, havent tried the others.
post #986 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again smile.gif
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out smile.gif

Hahah ya true. BTW so funny how everyone is raving about the TV on BestBuy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+55%22+Class+(54-5/8%22+Diag.)+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+HDTV/6846823.p;tab=reviews?id=1218809154532&skuId=6846823
post #987 of 2546
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again smile.gif
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Yep I only saw AH and CH in the UN55EH6001 lot. Lesson learned: Never buy a TV without seeing it in action.
I guess this is all due to the darn outsourcing. They build a factory in some nook and corner in the world where labor is cheap, put whatever junk is available locally, add some version number for their reference and dump them in the US market. Did I say this before? Well I have said it again smile.gif
The lack of performance uniformity among the TV's is a clear indication of lack of quality control. I dont mind if they exploit outsourcing, but it is outrageous when they dont enforce strict quality control and focus mainly on making profits. The fact that their brand is so popular could be because most people who buy Samsumg products dont care to hang out at AVS and those who spend hours here reading all the opinions here at AVS are just so picky about minor things that we are always looking for issues in a product than try to enjoy it.
May be if I had not known about all these versions, I would have kept the UN55EH6001 -AH01? Probably not. Because I have the SONY 46" LED to compare and so even if I had not read all about the version stuff, I would not have liked it. If I am not impressed the moment I turn on the TV, chances are that I will never like it no matter how much I fine tune it i.e buyer's remorse. So if I am not happy right away, I just return it.
All this venting is never going to reach Samsung as they really dont care about what a few people at AVS think. We are probably just a small fraction of their market. No wonder they do not have a presence here at AVS. No salesman at BB or ABC Warehouse or SEARS knew what those version numbers are!. They didnt even know what the difference is between different models like 6000, 6001, 6030. The salesman at ABC warehouse asked me if 6030 is like Costo or Sams club model!
Anyway...next time I will go to BB a couple of weeks before thanksgiving instead of going there when all the good ones are sold out smile.gif

Hahah ya true. BTW so funny how everyone is raving about the TV on BestBuy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+55%22+Class+(54-5/8%22+Diag.)+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+HDTV/6846823.p;tab=reviews?id=1218809154532&skuId=6846823
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yeah, those reviews sound like they're coming from samsung employees... they're so over the top. i can't believe so many people bought the tv, then went to BB website just to post great reviews. could be true, but.....
post #989 of 2546
Well I'm a little disappointed after reading the last 2-3 pages of this thread about this tv. I just purchased it online to pick up in store at best buy and now I'm practically expecting to return it frown.gif. (6001)

I'll give it a chance since I'm using it in my living room that has some ambient light and its not my main tv. That is one of the reasons I liked it at this price point. We'll see if the setting changes will help.
post #990 of 2546
as a follow up to my earlier post, I must say I am thoroughly dissapointed thus far with the TV. My 6 years old samsung 40lnt61f reproduces better colors that this. The 65unex6000 cannot hold up against it no matter what type of media I throw at them.
Edited by avidracer - 11/24/12 at 12:35pm
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