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post #361 of 381
hi if you want an opinion from someone who actually has been using 2 ST1080s for 5 weeks now and also owns the HMZT1 check out my on going review . And be warned though my experiences have been positive as well as negative, but those experiences come from someone using a functioning ST1080 , two in fact , with none of the light bleed , grey is black or other issues reported . Currently I use one ST1080 without the light blocker so I can keep in touch with my surroundings , say type this sentence on my 30 inch monitor whilst looking through the ST1080 at a music video ... I am up to part 16 of my now 5 week review which you can find on thegameveda here . I make no apologies for murdering the Queens English in terms of spelling or grammar as being born in Merry olde England I have a divine right 2! Seriously if you want to check out how someone actually using the ST1080 with consoles , games , iPads , Tridef , Raspberry Pi etc check out my ongoing review. If you need to know anything just ask on this forum or find me on twitter.

I have made some video of Max Payne playing in Tridef 3D , 1080p on the ST1080 , in the review you will also find some 3D pics , HMZT1 owners ( I have owned 3 HMZT1s) can also check out at least how Max Payne plays in 3D just watch the youtube videos in top down format on your HMZT1 , and this goes for any ST1080 owners out there too .

here are some parting shots if you happen to be wearing your HMZT1 or ST1080 right now

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and one of 5 videos I recorded with FRAPS , playing the game in 3D
post #362 of 381
Whats the point in captured video? That dont show how the st looks like rolleyes.gif rather listen to the users here
post #363 of 381
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Originally Posted by thegameveda View Post

hi if you want an opinion from someone who actually has been using 2 ST1080s for 5 weeks now and also owns the HMZT1 check out my on going review . And be warned though my experiences have been positive as well as negative, but those experiences come from someone using a functioning ST1080 , two in fact , with none of the light bleed , grey is black or other issues reported .

Mr. thegameveda, YOU ARE NOT HELPING SMD to emphasize these positive opinions everywhere! Because when EVERY customer get his ST1080, he/she will ask one question: "Why mine doesn't work well like thegameveda's one? It must be a faulty one and when I contact SMD to replace it,I should finally get a perfect one like thegameveda gets."

I see recent reviewers start understand some ST1080 problems can't be resolve by replacement, and ready to use it with its defeat. But with your " two in fact , with none of the light bleed , grey is black or other issues reported" ,Who can live with a faulty one when somebody get a perfect one?
Edited by alex76 - 7/19/12 at 2:47am
post #364 of 381
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Originally Posted by alex76 View Post

Mr. thegameveda, YOU ARE NOT HELPING SMD to emphasize these positive opinions everywhere! Because when EVERY customer get his ST1080, he/she will ask one question: "Why mine doesn't work well like thegameveda's one? It must be a faulty one and when I contact SMD to replace it,I should finally get a perfect one like thegameveda gets."
I see recent reviewers start understand some ST1080 problems can't be resolve by replacement, and ready to use it with its defeat. But with your " two in fact , with none of the light bleed , grey is black or other issues reported" ,Who can live with a faulty one when somebody get a perfect one?

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Originally Posted by thegameveda View Post

hi if you want an opinion from someone who actually has been using 2 ST1080s for 5 weeks now and also owns the HMZT1 check out my on going review . And be warned though my experiences have been positive as well as negative, but those experiences come from someone using a functioning ST1080 , two in fact , with none of the light bleed , grey is black or other issues reported . Currently I use one ST1080 without the light blocker so I can keep in touch with my surroundings , say type this sentence on my 30 inch monitor whilst looking through the ST1080 at a music video ... I am up to part 16 of my now 5 week review which you can find on thegameveda here . I make no apologies for murdering the Queens English in terms of spelling or grammar as being born in Merry olde England I have a divine right 2! Seriously if you want to check out how someone actually using the ST1080 with consoles , games , iPads , Tridef , Raspberry Pi etc check out my ongoing review. If you need to know anything just ask on this forum or find me on twitter.
I have made some video of Max Payne playing in Tridef 3D , 1080p on the ST1080 , in the review you will also find some 3D pics , HMZT1 owners ( I have owned 3 HMZT1s) can also check out at least how Max Payne plays in 3D just watch the youtube videos in top down format on your HMZT1 , and this goes for any ST1080 owners out there too .
here are some parting shots if you happen to be wearing your HMZT1 or ST1080 right now
337
675
and one of 5 videos I recorded with FRAPS , playing the game in 3D

Mr. thegameveda - please do not bask in the glory of owning two custom made st1080s for u - if i were to test the units u have been shipped , then the verdict will be that they are with better panels [may be 4k2k] and better [custom ordered] optics ! - that is "made for the Mr. thegameveda" ONLY and u might have paid a fortune to get this or if related to SMD then probably got it for free/pittance !

it's u only who says st1080 is free from blurrs/lightbleed/grey-black - rest all are either reconciling with their choice[good/bad] or asking for refunds/replacement but sadly the replacements will be the same quality anyway just adding to more wait time of 5-6 months !

i have given up on st1080, just hoping that Sony announce the 1080 version of HMZ with portable design and battery added and refined optics this fall.

Even the cinemizer OLED will be better than the st1080 crap!

Guys! remember Sony / cinemizer are brands while SMD is a small ,unknown company - which lives on hype and may disappear off the radar any time !
Edited by ancjob - 8/3/12 at 8:59pm
post #365 of 381
What's sad is, even after so many months with new batches people still complain about how bad they are. Same issues, buzzing sound from headphones, blurry picture, light bleed and fitment issues. Nothing has even changed! I always figured thegameveda is just someone from Silicon Micro hyping up the product to get buyers. I honestly can't believe someone has 2 that have no problems, I call BS on it. I got 2 before and both had all the same issues. I am so happy I got a full refund and didn't get replacements.
I use my Sony HMZ and love it 1,000 times better and pray Sony makes another version that's portable.
post #366 of 381
Mr. thegameveda has two that where made by magical pixies !
post #367 of 381
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

What's sad is, even after so many months with new batches people still complain about how bad they are. Same issues, buzzing sound from headphones, blurry picture, light bleed and fitment issues. Nothing has even changed! I always figured thegameveda is just someone from Silicon Micro hyping up the product to get buyers. I honestly can't believe someone has 2 that have no problems, I call BS on it. I got 2 before and both had all the same issues. I am so happy I got a full refund and didn't get replacements.
I use my Sony HMZ and love it 1,000 times better and pray Sony makes another version that's portable.

even i have reached the same verdict - hmz vs st1080 , hmz is a winner since it's from a brand with mature technology with some optics/comfort issues of first generation product,SMD nobody knows them who they are !
the best part - HMZ can be modded whereas st1080 cannot !

i will buy the hmz-T2 which has the issues [with hmz-T1] resolved , st1080 is a no no from me since i doubted the panel quality from the start.
Edited by ancjob - 8/20/12 at 9:45pm
post #368 of 381
Hi,

Below my opinion on this hmd, and the message i've posted on their forum.

"Hi all,

After 2 weeks and a contact with support team, honestly, my best advice is not to buy this hmd.
The reasons :
- optics are bad (pieces parts are cheap)
- the haze (lights on the borders are normal and couldn't be corrected via a firmware update)

So, i hate saying bad on things but the fact is that if you're not about to make some structural modifications (what i'm about to do due to the next point...), don't even imagine watching a movie or a game with a great experience...

The refund is really expensive too, and it's really really bad (it's clearly a sting)...

It's not a finished product, and in my opinion it shouldn't be sold like...

Regards
(the best representation of the screen could be find here : http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=15100)"
post #369 of 381
That's pretty much how my 2 looked. These things are crap and I suggest never dealing with the company. They need to get their **** together and stop ripping customers off. The product is crap and their refund policy is total BS. A restocking fee for a crap product, heck no I said!
post #370 of 381
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Originally Posted by DAP View Post

This.
It appears that some people don't realize that there are two different types of HMD for completely different purposes.
The ST1080 mimics a big screen TV. This is good for watching movies and playing existing video games not configured for a wide field of view. For this type, head tracking does not make much sense.
The second type tries to mimic your eyes wide field of view. This is similar to the IMAX dome theaters. This setup is terrible for movies and standard video games, but great for head tracking games designed for this display (or watching imax films designed for dome theaters).
The requirements of each are so vastly different, I don't think you will find one device that does both.

Hi

I'm sorry but what type of games are "Head Tracking Games" ?

I'm confused frown.gif

Thanks
post #371 of 381
it's sad - the HMD for consumers are not great - they are just prototypes and that too very bad ones at that !
HMZ has everything good but the ergonomics with very small exit pupil suck big time while st1080 is BS to say the least !

So i have decided to wait and enjoy my acer iconia w500 tab for movies / music etc - sadly for games there are no devices [read HMDs] to exploit computer gaming or console gaming!mad.gif

So gaming on HMDs will only be a distant dream!mad.gif

where are the guys @sony who'd designed glasstrons - they'd have done a great job designing the HMZ as HMZ-T2 is still design-wise A Failure designed by thoses who know nothing of HMD design mad.gif
Edited by ancjob - 9/14/12 at 2:55pm
post #372 of 381
So is this thing dead? Any updates? Everybody gave up on them?
post #373 of 381
I am sure most gave up. They were crap and horrible customer service. Read their forums on their site and even there numerous complain.
post #374 of 381
TBH, i work in retail. I own two Sony HMZ's and i knew the ST1080 would let people down. Because when you work in retail... if you have an amazing product... you dont' hide it. You go around showing it off (Like the Oculous guys are doing). You send out loads of free demo kits to the press and review sites. You get the great reviews then you rake in the money :P

Seeing how ST1080 makers where obviously not keen to let people review their product... from a retailer standpoint... the product has to be rubbish/ not as advertised.

Just my 5cents.
post #375 of 381
Well i orderd one rolleyes.gif got a feeling i might regret it ... Ill post my views when i get it.
post #376 of 381
i bought these so called FHD of the ebay. I was prepared for bad. i removed these terrible silicon cylinders which prevented full arms opening and had no more this vice grip on my head! good... then - i am short sighted and wearing glasses: -3 right eye and -2.20 left eye.So wearing glasses I can see the center and the bottom of the screen clear but everything on the top becomes blurry and in the corners barely visible. you can't even click the cross in the right top corner of the screen to close the opened window without some guessing where to click. playing with IPD adjustment sliders did not help much. then I decided to have a look at these screens without glasses... OUCH! everything on the top and in the corners became crystal clear but the center and the bottom of the screens which were clear before became foggy! so it means that there is fundamental problem with the optics or somebody from the QA department in Silicon company had strong astigmatism when tuning the lenses... Coming back to my slightly modded Sony HMZ T-1 was like a release from prison - the picture, the black levels, colours, FOV...

On a plus side - it's portable - yes - you can take it everywhere with the external lithium polymer battery pack (sold on amazon cheaply) size slightly bigger than a box of cigarette and have full 4 hours of fun on the move (on a long flight for example). Although the FOV is smaller that HMZ I could accept it if I only could remove this bloody blur in the top corners..... When you watch FHD movie which does not take full screen and leaves black borders on the top and the bottom of the screen it looks very good on bright scenes. In the dark scenes the lack of real black and poor contrast level makes it more difficult but again - if I could only remove this blur .... it could be a very good second HMD in my collection after Sony HMZ .... (I own many other older HMDs like Sony Glasstron, Vuzix etc). For games it's also not bad (but without this blur could be much better) and where the picture is crystal clear you can't see individual pixels at all. With Cinemizer OLED head tracker it could be a perfect portable gaming screen you could take anywhere....
So the perfect HMD is still far away from reality but exists in different makes. We need full HD like ST-1080 but with OLED screens like Sony and Cinemizer with a comfort, weight and dioptric adjustment of cinemizer, transparency regulation like old Sony Glasstron, ability to wear full size headphones with HMD like HMZ-T3 - something like that...
post #377 of 381
Got my Smd a few days back its not perfect but the 3D is actually exellent on it i would dare to say in 3D it beats the Sony T1 and T2. Picture it has light bleed but for me the resolution compensate in many ways for it vs the sonys.
Best part is the great sweetspot no more micro adjusting the headset to get clear edges; my is 100percent clear on the picture as i constantly had to do with the sonys.

If sonys t3 has a greater sweet spot i go vs that aswell but im deffo keeping the smd for lying in bed hooked up to my surface pro running netflix.

Ihope smd will carry on with they 4k and 8k planned haedset with sum tweaks in backlight and more picture adjustments this could be a killer product.


Been testing if tinting the lenses makes a diffrence vs the backlight , not decided 100percent on going full on with it but what i notice i can adjust the smd brighter up n still get better blacks and keep the colours neutrual.
sumting others could try by holding a titnt infront of the lenses as a test aswell.
Edited by vaktmestern - 10/7/13 at 1:53pm
post #378 of 381
congratulations - you probably got much better product than me. may be different batch with better QA control. I am amazed that you you find 3d better than Sony! For me - it's even difficult to compare as Sony wipes floor with SMD in terms of colour reproduction , FOV, black levels 3d etc. I wish I could enjoy my SMD as you do. However most of the SMD reviews (except gameveda who probably has custom made SMDs or had eye surgery specifically to enjoy SMD) are in line with my impressions.
post #379 of 381
also - I've disassembled my SMD ST1080 - bloody hell! The build quality is bloody awful! To be honest I've never expected this from the Korean made product. The soldering, the mechanics, the gasket - everything. I now understand why SMD admitted problems with gasket and prism delamination with their product. Also - why their website is dead and no update on the product for ages?
post #380 of 381
Quality could been better but its decent for what it is.
post #381 of 381
decen for $700+ product? you must be kidding!
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