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Good news on 513 & 515, but likely ephemaral

post #1 of 27
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As of this morning when I checked (Yes, the EH59 open-box had been sold) J&R had BOTH the Magnavox MDR513H/F7 and the MDR515H back in stock - both refurbished of course. The pricing listed as $170 and $200. For those who were waiting eagerly, even anxiously, for them, they are back in stock. How many thay have, and how long they'll stay in stock is anyones guess. I am no way near clairvoyant enough to even take a stab at it.
post #2 of 27
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...and I can't believe that I spelled ephemeral incorrectly in the thread title! My fingers are not going where my mind is directing them.
post #3 of 27
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

As of this morning when I checked (Yes, the EH59 open-box had been sold)...

Meant to ask you about that. I looked at it and saw it's an international machine that's meant for the PAL format.

I assume it can play back region 1 NTSC discs, but can you use it to record here in the States? Doubt it has an ATSC or QAM tuner, but does it have an NTSC tuner, or can it take A/V input off a N. American video source? Can it even record NTSC discs, or would they come out in PAL even if it can record from a N. American source?
post #4 of 27
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

Meant to ask you about that. I looked at it and saw it's an international machine that's meant for the PAL format.

I assume it can play back region 1 NTSC discs, but can you use it to record here in the States? Doubt it has an ATSC or QAM tuner, but does it have an NTSC tuner, or can it take A/V input off a N. American video source? Can it even record NTSC discs, or would they come out in PAL even if it can record from a N. American source?

Everything you need to know about the international Panny DVDRs here, courtesy of jjeff.
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

Meant to ask you about that. I looked at it and saw it's an international machine that's meant for the PAL format.

I assume it can play back region 1 NTSC discs, but can you use it to record here in the States? Doubt it has an ATSC or QAM tuner, but does it have an NTSC tuner, or can it take A/V input off a N. American video source? Can it even record NTSC discs, or would they come out in PAL even if it can record from a N. American source?

The link that dare2be posted has a lot of information, but to specifically answer your questions:

1) Yes, it SAYS it was intended for PAL, and it might have been, but it will playback NTSC and PAL DVDs. The playback is in the format of the disk. It won't convert or translate NTSC to PAL or PAL to NTSC. And it has been modified to be region free, at least mine have been, so I assume it has been also.

2) It does not have a tuner that is usable in North America. It has video and S-Video inputs that can record any conventional video source that you send it. I use my DirecTV receiver to feed my EH59/69 and it records the video stream with no problems, barring the ones listed (black level and such). It also has SCART input and output connectors, which work just fine and I use them regularly. If you record an NTSC source to the hard drive, it wll make an NTSC DVD. There is a setup option allowing you to select the video type you use, PAL/NTSC.
post #6 of 27
In the link I posted, I wanted to call attention to the items that were NOT specifically asked about, namely the darkness/brightness issues with the line-in/out on N.American TVs and signals (the *asterisked paragraph)
post #7 of 27
Beat me to it! I just ck'd at J&R after getting on computer for first time today, & saw the refurbs. I ordered a 515 about 5 minutes ago- bigger HD & better remote easily worth the extra $30 to me. Don't have to buy a remote or a hard drive! (Have you seen the price of hard drives lately? That must have been one heckuva flood!)

Will return the 513 I ordered back to Walmart, hope that goes OK. Or if anyone is in East Texas & wants a brand new unopened 513, I'll sell it for my cost, no markup. Probably easier to just order it from WallyWorld though.
post #8 of 27
Yep, i grabbed one. I checked J&R this morning, they showed out of stock, but on a whim i checked this afternoon, snagged one. One question, i only have OTA tv coming from an antenna on the roof going thru a Samsung DTB H260F. Will i lose any PQ with the 515 or could i use a splitter to run to both boxes. Have a toshiba 51H84 rear projection tv that has alot of inputs on the back including HDMI. Kind of a newbie on these things, but have been doing alot of reading on here.
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by 84GNLT1 View Post

Will i lose any PQ with the 515 or could i use a splitter to run to both boxes.

The 515 is only a SD unit, but it has a RF Passthru which is HD capable.

Also, check this wajo thread:

HDTV Passthru and "Aspect Ratio... Converters/CP Strippers
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by 84GNLT1 View Post

Yep, i grabbed one. I checked J&R this morning, they showed out of stock, but on a whim i checked this afternoon, snagged one. One question, i only have OTA tv coming from an antenna on the roof going thru a Samsung DTB H260F. Will i lose any PQ with the 515 or could i use a splitter to run to both boxes. Have a toshiba 51H84 rear projection tv that has alot of inputs on the back including HDMI. Kind of a newbie on these things, but have been doing alot of reading on here.

See more on the Mag's coax passthru of HD or SD signals, whichever is fed to it, and connection sketch and tips here.

Click HDD DVDRs in my sig. and bookmark that page for an index of info and help files for future use.
post #11 of 27
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

...and I can't believe that I spelled ephemeral incorrectly in the thread title! My fingers are not going where my mind is directing them.

Ain't that the truth!

AFAICT, somewhere ~55 the 'Brain-to-Fingers' connection begins deteriorating. By 60, IME , COMPLETELY different (*BUT* CORRECTLY SPELLED!) words RANDOMLY appear when you proofread. That's why COMPOSING one of my posts may take an hour. But, then I have to spend ~2-3 hours more PROOFREADING, checking LOGIC, checking GRAMMAR, checking for INCOMPLETE THOUGHTS...

Happily, I recently learned that CHROME actually drops letters! (Strange thing to be HAPPY about, eh? ) Yeah, I know I'm running a ~2003 Gateway laptop w/WinXP Home and 512MB RAM but "Remember When...". Thus, when 'Current Day' Laptop & Desktop Win7 Home users are complaining that CHROME drops letters, personally I feel SO MUCH BETTER about myself! (i.e. It's *NOT* ME!!!)

Finally, without EXPLICITLY naming names, I'm very gratified to see other 'DVDR Forum Regulars' starting to use FORMATTING and SMILIES - Yep, instead of hearing the 'Stephen Hawkings Monotone Computer-Generated Voice', I'm now hearing you as (almost!) *REAL* people, having face-to-face conversations, with some personality injected.

Thanks for expanding your horizons!

Generously / genuinely complimenting one another *AND* REFRAINING from *CONTINUOUSLY* "Tooting One's Horn" adds IMMEASURABLY to the Community Spirit. As on the now 'Ghost Town' ReplayTV Forums, there are *VERY* few of us 'DieHards' left here. So, let's try to become / remain 'Best Friends' and cordially SHARE our *YEARS* of experience.

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Do *ANY* of you actually HEAR the tonal / facial inflections that I attempt to add via my "Excessive Formatting"? Thus far, only *ONE* person PM'd me that he does.

UPDATE: If the 'Lemmings' would stop following their 'Misguided Leader' off the edge of the cliff, I believe things would improve in this 'Shortly to be "Oblivious / Obsolete / Ghost Town" ' Forum.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by dvrtyro View Post

Beat me to it! I just ck'd at J&R after getting on computer for first time today, & saw the refurbs. I ordered a 515 about 5 minutes ago- bigger HD & better remote easily worth the extra $30 to me. Don't have to buy a remote or a hard drive!...

You just reminded me!

The 513 I ordered just before the new batch of both showed up at J&R...

It's got the old remote!

Believe it or not, I like.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

...and I can't believe that I spelled ephemeral incorrectly in the thread title! My fingers are not going where my mind is directing them.

I checked out the thread just to see what it meant.
post #14 of 27
^^^ ya spell check doesn't work in thread titles sometimes I type my thread title in the main body of the thread if I'm unsure of spelling, with my browser misspelled words underline if spelled wrong, but not on titles.
post #15 of 27
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...and speaking of ephemeral (as in short-lived) news, the 515 page now shows them as sold out. I checked this morning, but didn't check over the weekend, so they may have been sold out for some time already. The 513 is still in stock though. I wonder how many they had, because they sold out quickly.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by joed32 View Post

I checked out the thread just to see what it meant.


It means that they won't last long! And as the 515s are gone already, I was correct in my assessment.
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

...and speaking of ephemeral (as in short-lived) news, the 515 page now shows them as sold out. I checked this morning, but didn't check over the weekend, so they may have been sold out for some time already. The 513 is still in stock though. I wonder how many they had, because they sold out quickly.

They had 96 ea. 515's and 70 ea. 513's.
post #18 of 27
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They had 96 ea. 515's and 70 ea. 513's.

They went through 96 of those in a very short time. They appear to be more popular than the manufacturer believes. Maybe only at that price point though.
post #19 of 27
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They went through 96 of those in a very short time. They appear to be more popular than the manufacturer believes.

They might have been bought by (a) people/person who were/was planning on re-selling them.
post #20 of 27
Don't necessarily think the price point is as big a factor as basic supply and demand...people know the supply is dwindling, so correspondingly, the demand goes up. I myself wouldn't have purchased 2 more units last month if I hadn't known about the impending shortage.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

They might have been bought by (a) people/person who were/was planning on reselling them.

That too.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

They might have been bought by (a) people/person who were/was planning on re-selling them.

Good point, and if true, we'll be seeing them on Ebay at twice the J&R cost very shortly.
post #23 of 27
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Well, not too surprisingly, this morning bioth the 513s and the 515s show out of stock. For those that waited, it's now too late. I wonder just how many more shipments of these they will get?
post #24 of 27
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I checked this morning, and the 515s (again) show out of stock. The 513s are still available. Those devices sure sell out quickly!
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

I checked this morning, and the 515s (again) show out of stock. The 513s are still available. Those devices sure sell out quickly!

Now I'm sweating it out. I ordered a 515 on Saturday and it's still showing as in process on the J&R website. I wonder if I actually got one.
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post #27 of 27
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I never suggested, or implied, that the 515s were no longer available anywhere in the world, just that J&R no longer had any stock of the referb 515s. In the "Uh Oh" thread you said that they got 94 in on the 7th. It's now the 12th, and all of them have been sold, not necessarily to individuals, but sold from J&R. They might have been sold out before this morning, I never checked over the weekend. My point is, that they sell out very quickly. The 513s only slightly less quickly. Presumably, some (many?) of the 515s were sold to people who will be reselling them, so these should be available through other sources.
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