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I have a question for you as well. I would like to use PS3 server as well but can't get it to work very well (plays almost nothing). Is there anything special you had to do to the config file?

Thanks, I'll likely stake one out at ebay or do a Buy it Now unless Amazon UK can somehow get me NTSC sets.

One more thing: Are all the Insignia blu-ray players the same in this regard or are there preferable models?

So, you wound up with one ~17GB file for each BD ripped when you ripped some of the BBC PAL BDs? That would put the total disk space at under 80GB for the Life series, which is 4 BDs. Is the AV experience comparable?

No, only certain ones and certain firmwares. I don't remember exactly, but there is a link in the Insignia forum here to a site with a detailed list of players and firmware requirements. Unlike many players, with Insignia you can load any firmware version (older or newer) at any time. You just have to find the right one. I used to have them all but deleted them after I sold all my players. I couldn't care less about region free, so my players were more valuable to others than they were to me.

Great information, mdavej, much appreciated.

That's about double the GB/minute of my HDTV timeshifts that I do routinely with my desktop/HTPC. No problem at all. I do it presently to a 2TB Western Digital USB connected external HD. That drive has loads of free space.

How's the quality compared to "live" BD disk play from a player?

hey all just bought the BDP-S590 today, i was upgrading from a BDP-S570 which seems to be in and out with stability those days. had developed an issue with choppy video (even from local media) no network involved. Anyway I noticed sony dropped the internal memory on the 590 for bdlive, any ideas why? i now have to keep a usb stick plugged into the rear, though this isn't a big deal as i have two and one is an extra.

I'm sure it's costs. The S580 dropped it as well and it annoyed me then. I'm certain it's a small cost, but over thousands of units it adds up. The build quality is also not what it was with the S570 IMO, though both have drive mechanisms that are randomly very loud.

Walmart had the choice of the panasonic DMP-BDT321-p player in addition to the sony, from my experience with panasonic though, own the BD85K, while they have excellent video output, and usually are rock solid players, they have less media format support, (even from local media). With sony I can count on h.264 and many other formats to play natively from usb, or disc. This is helpful to me as I Use macs, and i've been trained in production (television) so, h.264, mp4 m4v, even mkv, mov, etc, are all common formats used, which the sony players seem to support with no problem. even when I used Isedora media server for mac, when i tried dlna it was able to transcode these files into a format thle player understood and could play. I just decided, local playback was better for HD content then DLNA streaming, as the network bandwidth used for dlna by the player (at least the 570) wasn't enough for 1080p content, even wired.

The other thing about panasonic, that seems to be a factor, at least with the 85, compared the the sony player is: the panasonic players, seem to have a slower drive. From my experience, depending on the disc, it's not too much slower though.

I know many people here have multiple players, so does anyone who owns a current sony player, also own a current panasonic player? and could give feed back ?

The 2012 Pannys are faster than the 2012 Sonys.

OK, it looks like my review got posted accidentally (we did an upgrade of the CMS with some strange side-effects) but it isn't listed on the front page. You can search and find it, so here is the review of the BDP-S590:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blu-r...ay-player.html

It might get pulled down tomorrow until it can run on the front page, but there you go.

Thanks for the review. What I found unsettleing is that the HDMI chipset might be the cause of the RGB error. The reason I dropped Panasonic was my problem with their players weak HDMI board and the handshake, 3D issues I had with them. My fear is that if it is the HDMI board that in fixing the RGB problem, they weaken the HDMI interface. I guess even if that happens it can't be worse than the Panny's plus I still have full MCH SACD as a perk.

It sounds like it might just be a firmware issue, we will see this month hopefully.

On everything I've tried for web browsing, apps, etc.. I've always been highly disappointed in it, and found no good use really. I think SEN might wind up being well done, but this feels like Revision 1, and something that will work better next year. The speed of it is slow enough to keep me from using it as well.

I don't think there is an "Insignia forum" here. Maybe you meant Insignia specific thread(s) in the Dual Format Players forum?

Edit: Actually I don't see any threads there with "Insignia" in the title. Can you please direct me? Thank you.

Edit2: Looks like the Dual Format Players forum is for HD/Blu-ray. Where can I look for threads about PAL/NTSC compatible players?

Sorry, I meant thread. THIS is the one. Start at the end and work your way back.

I wonder if someone could help or suggest something.....I bought an S590 about a week ago and it's worked fine until yesterday. One of the main uses I had for it was to stream videos from my PC running Serviio (0.6.2).

All of a sudden it no longer see's my Serviio DLNA (after just a week). I don't believe any new updates happened to it since the first one I did on the first day I had it (again, about a week ago).

It can do all the Netflix and other Internet related apps, so I know it is seeing the Internet fine.

I tried to reset the device to factory defaults and go through everything from scratch...still no help.

I have another Blu-ray player (LG) that see's the Serviio DLNA and can stream videos from it just fine (so I know Serviio is working).

I tried to install other DLNA devices on my PC to see if I could get anything to populate the Connection Server screen on the Sony, but nothing does (the DLNA devices do show up on the LG player though). The device doesn't show up in Serviio either...I did add it, but that also didn't help.

I feel like I'm missing something very basic here, but can't think what. I haven't made any changes on my Router in the last couple of days.

Since it was so new, I exchanged it with another S590 at BestBuy (where I bought it from) and have the exact same issue...no DLNA

I have not tried to hook this up through a wired connection yet (only wireless at this point).

Any thoughts?

LDN

** Update - I ran a network cable through the house and when using a wired connection, the S590 can see Serviio just fine (so the issue is related to the wireless). I then change the wireless connections security on my router and I can see Serviio again. I'm still a little confused on what exctly happened, but at least it's working again.....sorry for the interruption.

All my rips are uncompressed m2ts and they all play fine for me.

I hate how Netflix always starts playing the audio of whatever I tell it to play and there's a delay of several seconds before the loading screen goes away and the video shows.

Thanks. And within that thread I found a link to THIS thread, which has info on models, the hack, firmware caveats. It seems that the Insignia NS-BRDVD4 and the Insignia NS-BRDVD3 will do this.

Edit: Ah, in that thread you made mention of an Insignia Forum, which you linked. Curious, of course, I see it's Insignia's own forum: Insignia Forum

Edit2: It looks as though I will need help from someone to get the last firmware that leaves the region free hack in place, which appears to be the Dec. 2010 version. The only ones I see at Insignia's site are the last two versions, Dec. 2011 and June 2011. I believe you said that the players are able to revert to previous firmware versions, so all I need to do is find someone who can send me an appropriate version, oh, and buy one those Insignias somewhere.

Edit3:
Plus I imagine it will let me view the extras, which I would not have if I just rip the main feature to MKV.

I picked this player up at wally world with a $50 gift card swaying my vote.

I've watched several movies so far. I am seeing artifacts in every movie. Are the issues player related, or simply due to the encodes?

1. Clueless: yellow sweater scene: the writing on the chalkboard behind Cher. alternately glimmers, then nearly disappears back and forth.

2. Star Wars 3: the emporer vs. yoda: some really bad aliasing on the doorway's diagonal lines.

3. Terminator Salvation: john connor in the sub 'on a need to know' basis: ghosting (? not sure of the term) of the commander's face as he walks towards seated connor.

Again, I don't know whether to blame the player or the movies. I already checked the settings I should use at the beginning of the thread, so that shouldn't be an issue.

What is the practical impact on picture quality of the "fail" tests on "diagonal filtering" and "source direct mode?"

For diagonal filtering that means with 1080i content, not 1080p, there is some aliasing on diagonal edges. It isn't horrible on the Sony but this is 1080i only. For Source Direct it means it can't always output the native resolution of the content, it outputs at a fixed resolution (like 1080p) for everything so it isn't ideal for an external scaler. Neither should influence when you were seeing.

Your review says that you miss last year's player's indicator of Netflix current download speed, but I don't think it actually had one, did it? Just an indicator of the current measured available bandwidth, as the Amazon player still has--not particularly informative.

Smackrabbit, if you had to choose just one player for blu ray playback under $200 (list), which would it be?

Thanks for info about your review.

Correct, it shows your current transfer speed, not the actual bitrate of the content. Given how much extra buffering we use to have at our last house (new neighborhood is better) it would have been useful to help determine if the issue is that the connection is bad, or the buffer is very small, or something similar to that. Not amazingly useful, but it's still removing data that was there before.


I haven't tested enough 2012 units to say that at the moment. Samsung, Panasonic, and others still have new players I haven't tested, though hopefully those will arrive ASAP. Some companies have lots of review units, some have very few, and I don't know where I fall in the queue order to get one. Last year it was the Panasonic BDT-210, this year I don't know.