Official Sony BDP-S590 and BDP-390 Thread - Page 41

It looks like my Sony S590 review is now down until tomorrow or Wednesday. It wasn't supposed to be up yet, but I figured while it was I would post for everyone to see, but once it goes back up on Wednesday or Tuesday I'll note it again.

Does the S590 have Amazon Video app? I don't see it on the specs. The Panny 220 does.

Hi whsbuss, yes it does.

That's interesting. Cnet also endorses the panasonic this year: the 220 in this case. I'll look for the best price on this player then.

Thanks for confirming!

Does anyone have any screen cap comparisons between players?

They endorsed it before even testing any other players, so I think that has more to do with money than test results. And they completely glossed over the fact that Panny's DLNA implementation sucks, and that their Netflix app is buggy.

When you say screen caps, what are you looking for exactly, frame by frame so you can scrutinize PQ, or a few caps of the GUI? What features are you concerned about? Most of us in this forum who've had both prefer the Sony over all.

I feel that Panasonic also has an HDMI interface that is weak and not fault tolerant at all. No problems with 3D since switching to Sony.

I bought the sony, and I am amazed by the feature set. But my main interest is in blu ray playback first and foremost. This is my first player, so my only point of reference for HD is OTA and directv. I thought there would be a much bigger difference between 1080i broadcasts and 1080p blu ray. The quality difference is much more subtle than I expected.

I've read both the panasonic 220/320 and sony 390/590 threads in their entirety (and a lot of the panny 110/210 thread as well), and the panny seems to draw a lot of praise for blu ray playback.

So, if anyone has screencaps of the sony vs. panny, that would be awesome.

I too had the choice between a panny and the sony when getting a 2012 player. Most of my players have been about the same quality when it comes to blu-ray on a 32" 42" HDTV 1080p. DVD up conversion looks about the same too. One thing I found out about panasonic I don't like is a slot loading drive. In my experience tray loaders are much more reliable, and if you have an issue are often easy to remove a disc from. I think the only reason i would buy a new panasonic over the 85 i own is just to keep the interface unity between the panasonic tv and player. Hence why i put the new sony on the sony tv.

Actually, after yesterday I'm blessed to have anything left at all, the cable company was working on the lines, and the guy shorted the transformer with his ladder and it surged everything connected in my apt and a couple others.. I only ended up losing the computer speakers, the coffee maker and possibly the microwave. Also a surge protector was burned. everything else seems ok. Including the UPS i thought was dead seems to be ok now after the problem was corrected.

I had a Panasonic BDT 220 and returned it for the Sony BDP-S590. The Sony, although slower loading than the 220 had more apps, a nicer user interface, and also owning a Panny BDT 210, was ready for change (these Netflix black flashes with the 210 were annoying). Very happy with the Sony.

If you remove a DVD from the S590 player after having watched part of a movie, and then you put the DVD back in later, will the player resume playback at the last point you left off?

What about with a Blu-ray disk?

Not that I'm aware of. There are some BDs that will do that, but they have to have it programmed in, like the 2D Avatar disc (when you start it up it will display a dialog with a thumb of where you left off and ask you if you want to start from there in the graphical motif of its menus). I don't think that DVDs can do that.

It likely does with DVDs provided you have memory in there for saving the location. I'll try it out later to see. With Blu-ray discs is comes down to if the BD-J implementation of the disc supports it or not. Since the entire BD-J software has to be unloaded from RAM when you stop the disc, it's the disc that has to save it, not the player. This would also require you to have memory in the player (like a USB Flash Drive) to save this information to. DVDs don't have the BD-J limitation so more can stop and restart where they were without issue.

Unless you buy a high end player such as an Oppo, many Blu-ray players don't have the resume play feature for DVDs after the disc is removed. If you want this feature, buy an up converting sony DVD player, that's just a DVD player, they can remember up to 5 disc locations. Last time I had one it cost $50/60. I will say, that DVDs will resume on many blu-ray players is not removed. But to take it a step further like you're asking about the units I find best for that and are fairly cheap are the up converting sony DVD players.
Edited by MacinMan - 6/6/12 at 11:37am

Smackrabbit, what was it about the 210 panny that differentiated it from last year's sony in blu ray playback?

Thanks, Smackrabbit, for being willing to test a removed DVD and later, see if it will resume at the previously stopped location. Im curious to know your result (with or without a flash drive.)

...and thanks for the other replies about my disk resume playback question.

The S580 had bad HDMI output, where everything was too dim and dark when set to factory defaults. The Panasonic also has a more responsive menu, and you can customize the online content order, so I don't have to search through 200 online services to find the one I want. Sony is getting better with the SEN portal, but it's too slow to load IMO and I still want to reduce the choice on the cross media bar.

Also true of the Panasonics--just sayin' .

That leaves the problem with hdmi out. Hopefully, the problem has been solved with the 590.

It does not remember your place in a DVD after you remove it. I tried it with a couple of different titles. Weird thing is that it starts the disc differently depending upon whether it was in the drive when you turned it on. If you insert the disc while the player is on it will start with the FBI/Interpol warning and any trailers, etc. If the disc was in the drive when you turned it on and hasn't been played yet, it will start chapter 1 of the main title, skipping all that.

It is with YCbCr. RGB has an issue on the 590 and 790 and Sony has said they're working on it, hopefully getting fixed this month.

The services thing is all personal preference. I hate that I can't hide them on the Sony, it drives me insane, but I totally understand it won't bother other people as much. But it's one reason why I personally prefer the 210 over the 590.

Anyone able to get dolby digital plus 5.1 (was playing Gone in HDX version with DD+ 5.1) from Vudu?

My AVR display that it's getting a Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 but sound is only coming out of the 2 front speakers.

Just a quick Question on a slightly different topic, now that I've upgraded to the BDP-S590, is there any reason to keep the S-570 around? i don't need component outs and the internal memory is not a big loss since i don't use BDLive anyway. I was going to donate itt possibly to the complex here as a player for the clubhouse, or anyone else who wanted a player. If there is a reason I should keep the 570, then I could either donate the magnavox profile 1.1 player from 2010, or the Panny 85. i'm stuck with 4 players now, and only really need two. The other 3, are all 2010 models, and as far as blu-ray disc playback and dvd playback, are all rock solid players that could be donated.

I've already initialized personal data from the 570, and have unlinked it from my sony account, so none of my services are going to carry over to the new owner.

Any suggestions would be helpful, when choosing from 3 2010 models as a secondary player to the new 2012 player.

Thanks

Choose to keep whichever secondary player has features you might want to use. The 570 seems to me to be the most likely to go, but I'm not familiar with the features available in your other players. For example, can any of them decode the extra resolution available on CDs formatted with HDCD or can your AVR do that? Do any of them play All-Region PAL (50Hz) discs? Do you care about either of those possibilities? The 590 does not have either of those two features.

The two examples listed here would not apply to me, I'm not familiar with HDCD, and I don't have an AVR, the sony is connected directly to the TV in the bedroom via HDMI, the panasonic is connected to a sound bar in the living room via optical and uses PCM for output. So in those circumstances just about any player would work. I may get rid of the 570 and the magnavox players then, Doing this would leave me with the 2 players that have features i want, and are also the same brand as the connected TV.

As far as PAL, i've never been one to import discs. I've always just used region 1 Discs, or discs solid for ALL regions.