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post #1651 of 3991
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Planet Earth has a package that sells for all regions. I own it, and it plays on the 590 without problems. I mentioned this earlier in the thread.

Hm, I suppose I should log in to my amazon.co.uk account and see if I can find what version it is. I already own the disks... it's this set http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000SKNIWE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 which specifically says it's 50i ... but then one comment says it's 1080/24p which obviously is fine. (I imagine I could create 25p streams and then use a frame rate adjuster to slow that down to 24 if I really had to).

Also, no one has answered yay or nay on XviD / DivX via USB without DNLA. Anyone who's got a few minutes to test that for me would have my thanks. smile.gif

Is there any point to the 590 over the 390 if I don't care one bit about 3D?
post #1652 of 3991
I cant find the M12.R.0369 firmware available for download anywhere! anyone got a link?
post #1653 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

The USA BDP-S590 will playback the 1080/50i file on your USA HD tv. You need to create a MKV file from the BD using MakeMKV (or similar). Unfortunately they used the VC-1 codec, so you need to do one extra step, to remux the file to a M2TS file. You can use tsMuxeR. The video or audio content is not actually converted at all. All tsMuxeR does is that it extracts (demuxes) the video and audio from the Matroska .MKV file and wraps them (muxes) to a .m2ts transport stream format. It takes very little time to do the remux (30 seconds).
Some DLNA servers can be set up to do this on the fly, such as Serviio .... In any case, once this is done, youre good to go. If the 1080/50i file was authored with AVC, then you wouldn't have to do the extra step.
Hope this helps.

Greeteings apw2607. Great news that the s590 can handle 50i material.

My s185 (UK) is having difficulty playing BBC's coverage of the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony. Would appreciate if you could kindly try it on your machine.

Here's link to sample.

http://netload.in/dateiTbBl1AItqO/London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts.htm

Many thanks and best regards.
post #1654 of 3991
Hi everybody I recently bought a SONY BDPS590 on the USA and I'm from Argentina so it doesn't recognize my dvd region (4) and I have a lot of DVD'S it's something thath I've got to buy or see in the webpage to make it region free
I see something in this page that talk of something on ebay,
I hope that can be able to Argentina, can you gave me the link page?
Thank you so much
And sorry about my english, it doesn't good!
post #1655 of 3991
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Originally Posted by kurnis View Post

I cant find the M12.R.0369 firmware available for download anywhere! anyone got a link?
What region are you in? Can you not just connect the player to the internet?
post #1656 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

I read the S470 was able to playback SBS MKV files fine in 3D. I have a MKV SBS 3D file, but no 3D tv. The S590 plays the file fine ... its just i get two separate windows of video .. since my TV is not 3D !

Has some one with a 3D tv tried this? MKV SBS 3D file on the S590?
post #1657 of 3991
I picked up a 590 at Target two days ago for only $99 ($95 with the RedCard discount) for Netflix and BD capability in our bedroom (to keep the kids happy on weekends until my wife and I are ready to wake up smile.gif ). Immediately extremely impressed by the wireless Netflix streaming, two floors up and at the opposite end of the house from our old, g router: not a single hitch. I loved it so much for that price that I bought a second to replace our main BD player, a Panny BD30 bought in the late Cretaceous. The pleasure of a player that takes less than a week to load discs (a month if Java-heavy) and doesn't make you wait 3-5 seconds for most remote commands to register is bliss. Oh, and it also performs beautifully with PQ, AQ, and features that'll take me quite some time to play with fully. But I'm basking in the simpler things now. smile.gif
post #1658 of 3991
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

What region are you in? Can you not just connect the player to the internet?

Im in the US, but I didnt want to just connect it because i thought the most recent firmware stopped it from being able to play AVI's?
post #1659 of 3991
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Originally Posted by gunner23 View Post

Has some one with a 3D tv tried this? MKV SBS 3D file on the S590?

I have 3D TV and most MKV SBS 3D files would work fine, but some are not recognized. Others would start playing but would freeze later on. I would say that it plays about 80% of the 3D SBS MKVs I've thrown at it without a problem.
post #1660 of 3991
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Originally Posted by infocynic View Post

Also, no one has answered yay or nay on XviD / DivX via USB without DNLA. Anyone who's got a few minutes to test that for me would have my thanks. smile.gif

Is there any point to the 590 over the 390 if I don't care one bit about 3D?

Well I've just done a small test on my S390 and my XviD's played back with no problem.

None of my DivX stuff would (unsupported format) but I changed their FourCC and then they played fine.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/515141

As for the 590 over the 390, apart from 3D (which I don't care about) I couldn't see any difference in the specs so that's why I chose the S390.

My only complaint is the build quality. The case is made from cheap plastic and looks (IMHO) like something you'd see at a supermarket checkout for £40. A far cry from the quality build of Sony's a couple of years ago. I don't know whether the 590 has a higher quality build.
post #1661 of 3991
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Originally Posted by kurnis View Post

Im in the US, but I didnt want to just connect it because i thought the most recent firmware stopped it from being able to play AVI's?
I don't think it will update without asking. So connecting it is probably safe. Word is with a few tweaks to your DLNA server config AVI's will play fine on the latest F/W. Details are a few posts back in this thread. Haven't had a chance to test it myself yet but will definitely report back when I do.
post #1662 of 3991
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Originally Posted by ColinTaylor View Post

Well I've just done a small test on my S390 and my XviD's played back with no problem.
None of my DivX stuff would (unsupported format) but I changed their FourCC and then they played fine.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/515141
As for the 590 over the 390, apart from 3D (which I don't care about) I couldn't see any difference in the specs so that's why I chose the S390.
My only complaint is the build quality. The case is made from cheap plastic and looks (IMHO) like something you'd see at a supermarket checkout for £40. A far cry from the quality build of Sony's a couple of years ago. I don't know whether the 590 has a higher quality build.

Thanks, I don't have much DivX floating around anymore... man, that would have to be like 10 years old... and I'm sure I could batch change the FourCC if I really needed to watch it.

So the current price difference is $11 USD (about £7 at current exchange rates). Pretty chump change to be 3D ready I guess in case something awesome should come out.

As for the Planet Earth 50i problem... well, a certain bay of sea-faring raiders may just be the answer. smile.gif
post #1663 of 3991
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I don't think it will update without asking. So connecting it is probably safe. Word is with a few tweaks to your DLNA server config AVI's will play fine on the latest F/W. Details are a few posts back in this thread. Haven't had a chance to test it myself yet but will definitely report back when I do.

well it has already prompted me for updates which i declined, but i DID take a look at those config files for serviio that were posted, but mine are already changed to the "recommended" settings. Im afraid if i update i wont be able to fix it. also the update says it give "cinavia" which ive heard can cause problems? please correct me if im wrong, im new to a lot of this smile.gif and thank you for your help
post #1664 of 3991
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Originally Posted by infocynic View Post


As for the Planet Earth 50i problem...

It isn't a problem because the version you linked above IS 1080p24. I had it since release. Nothing in BD was in 1080i50 then. The Special Edition released more recently is 1080i50. Don't trust the info on Amazon's listing. Amazon used to label UK Blu-rays as PAL region 2. I very much doubt 2 Entertain has re-released the original PE in 1080i50, even if it did it would have a different UPC and Amazon ASIN and thus a different listing.

If you plan to import more BBC documentaries the newer ones since PE are now 1080i50 and you should get a player which plays 50i or convert to 60i in the US. It's a much simpler solution than ripping and rapping it in various formats.
post #1665 of 3991
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Originally Posted by kurnis View Post

well it has already prompted me for updates which i declined, but i DID take a look at those config files for serviio that were posted, but mine are already changed to the "recommended" settings. Im afraid if i update i wont be able to fix it. also the update says it give "cinavia" which ive heard can cause problems? please correct me if im wrong, im new to a lot of this smile.gif and thank you for your help

Are you sure you were looking under the Sony player profile?

I saved the default profile, as well as the modded for avi profile in a special folder. I have some old dvix videos that aren't playing and a 4c change to xvid didn't help so rather than having all the avi transcoding, I plan on making yet another profile with the dvix mod for when I want to watch those I have.

It would be nice to automatically switch profiles when needed, but right now that's above my pay grade.
post #1666 of 3991
After the latest S590 firmware update, I was able to fix MKV playback issues under Serviio 1.0 by selecting "Sony Bravia TV (2012)" for the device render profile. I don't know if this will correct the AVI playback issues some are experiencing, but my Blu-ray MKVs are now playing flawlessly (again).




Joseph
post #1667 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Hikertrash View Post

Are you sure you were looking under the Sony player profile?
I saved the default profile, as well as the modded for avi profile in a special folder. I have some old dvix videos that aren't playing and a 4c change to xvid didn't help so rather than having all the avi transcoding, I plan on making yet another profile with the dvix mod for when I want to watch those I have.
It would be nice to automatically switch profiles when needed, but right now that's above my pay grade.

ok im going to ask a question that i already know is bad.

but how do i switch profiles (or even choose one to begin with?) i see there is a default profile named "profile" in the folder, but how do i make new ones or choose which ones are selected? is it through the Serviio console?
post #1668 of 3991
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mariner888 View Post

Greeteings apw2607. Great news that the s590 can handle 50i material.
My s185 (UK) is having difficulty playing BBC's coverage of the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony. Would appreciate if you could kindly try it on your machine.
Here's link to sample.
http://netload.in/dateiTbBl1AItqO/London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts.htm
Many thanks and best regards.

Yes, plays fine. No issues.

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* * * MediaInspector for Mac - Version 2.0, build 896
* * * ©2012 by Diego Massanti
* * * MediaInfo Lib by Jerome Martinez
* * * Raw File Report for London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : /Volumes/MKV Media 2/Media/London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 64.4 MiB
Duration : 29s 664ms
Overall bit rate : 18.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=48
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 29s 640ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 17.0 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.329
Stream size : 60.2 MiB (94%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 4
Duration : 29s 760ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 698 KiB (1%)
Language : English

post #1669 of 3991
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephR. View Post

After the latest S590 firmware update, I was able to fix MKV playback issues under Serviio 1.0 by selecting "Sony Bravia TV (2012)" for the device render profile. I don't know if this will correct the AVI playback issues some are experiencing, but my Blu-ray MKVs are now playing flawlessly (again).
Joseph

Yes, it does. It fixes both the MKV and AVI issue reported.

Homestream users, simply use the BRAVIA profile and you will be all set. MKV and AVI files are presented to the BDP-S390/590/790 correctly.

post #1670 of 3991
My local Target (Los Angeles) had $50 off on the S590 for a total of $94 if anyone is currently shopping.
post #1671 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Yes, plays fine. No issues.
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* * * MediaInspector for Mac - Version 2.0, build 896
* * * ©2012 by Diego Massanti
* * * MediaInfo Lib by Jerome Martinez
* * * Raw File Report for London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts
General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : /Volumes/MKV Media 2/Media/London.2012.Olympics.Opening.Ceremony.BBCHD.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.H264-dm8000_Sample.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 64.4 MiB
Duration : 29s 664ms
Overall bit rate : 18.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=48
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 29s 640ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 17.0 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.329
Stream size : 60.2 MiB (94%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 4
Duration : 29s 760ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 698 KiB (1%)
Language : English

Greetings apw2607. Many thanks for testing the sample.

1. I notice the screen cap posted shows 60p instead of 50p. Did you have to convert to mkv? Was the playback smooth?

2. Another user also experienced jerky playback on the s380. His observed that for every 8 frames displayed, the order of 7th and 8th frame was reversed. This problem appears to plague the entire product line. Perhaps Mr Chris Heinonen would be kind enough to look into this in greater detail.

Best regards.
post #1672 of 3991
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Originally Posted by mariner888 View Post

Greetings apw2607. Many thanks for testing the sample.
1. I notice the screen cap posted shows 60p instead of 50p. Did you have to convert to mkv? Was the playback smooth?
2. Another user also experienced jerky playback on the s380. His observed that for every 8 frames displayed, the order of 7th and 8th frame was reversed. This problem appears to plague the entire product line. Perhaps Mr Chris Heinonen would be kind enough to look into this in greater detail.
Best regards.

The S790 and S590 are now with FedEx on their way back to Sony so someone else can review them unfortunately. I only kept them this long so I could verify the RGB issue was fixed on them.
post #1673 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

The S790 and S590 are now with FedEx on their way back to Sony so someone else can review them unfortunately. I only kept them this long so I could verify the RGB issue was fixed on them.

How come you didn't keep them? I haven't found anything about the 590, that i haven't liked. I was even satisfied with the 570. I just wanted the updated features like vudu and other things.

Otherwise, i wouldn't have updated either.
post #1674 of 3991
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

How come you didn't keep them? I haven't found anything about the 590, that i haven't liked. I was even satisfied with the 570. I just wanted the updated features like vudu and other things.
Otherwise, i wouldn't have updated either.
If he kept every player he reviewed, he would be flat broke and have no room left in his house. I imagine his personal players are much higher end than sony. Plus sony probably wanted them back.
post #1675 of 3991
Oh, is he someone who simply just reviews products? Wasn't aware of that. I've considered doing that for some things, just never went through with it.
post #1676 of 3991
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariner888 View Post

Greetings apw2607. Many thanks for testing the sample.
1. I notice the screen cap posted shows 60p instead of 50p. Did you have to convert to mkv? Was the playback smooth?
2. Another user also experienced jerky playback on the s380. His observed that for every 8 frames displayed, the order of 7th and 8th frame was reversed. This problem appears to plague the entire product line. Perhaps Mr Chris Heinonen would be kind enough to look into this in greater detail.
Best regards.

To clarify, I played the file you sent me, and did no conversion.

Bear in mind that the 1080/60p on-screen display is showing what the output resolution is, not what the original file resolution is. The only indicator on the OSD for the file, is at the bottom of the screen that shows the file codec and encoded bit rate.

Note, you can change the output resolution to 1080i or 720p, and the player will playback the file in that resolution (do that in screen settings)

USA players wont output 50fps though. Everything will go out at 60fps (or 24fps when applicable).

Testing the clip you sent me, and testing other 50fps (1080i and 1080p) material, I've seen no jerky playback.
Edited by apw2607 - 8/6/12 at 10:01am
post #1677 of 3991
I was wondering, if there was any reason for me to buy a stand alone DVD player at this point of time, I have the two 590s and the 570 for backup currently. Everything i put in them plays with no problem, I do have one thing I do miss though and it's not so much a need, as it would be a nice extra, which is the A-B repeat function, that many stand alone players still have, unlike many blu-ray players. The other thing is while i haven't had issues with DVDs on my blu-ray players do the stand alone players handle DVDs in any different way, then a BD player that might make playback overall more stable in the long run ?

It wouldn't be a huge investment as I can get a player cheap, I do have more DVDs then blu-ray discs currently so I was just wondering if I'd benefit from owning a stand alone player at this point in time.

Thanks
post #1678 of 3991
With the exception of one region free, code free DVD player from years ago in my bedroom, I don't use DVD players at all. I don't have any problem with DVD playback on either my PS3, Sony 590 or Panny 210. But then, DVD players are so cheap ($29???) go ahead!
post #1679 of 3991
An advantage is that DVD players are ready almost immediately. You don't have to wait for them to boot like you do with BD players.
post #1680 of 3991
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

With the exception of one region free, code free DVD player from years ago in my bedroom, I don't use DVD players at all. I don't have any problem with DVD playback on either my PS3, Sony 590 or Panny 210. But then, DVD players are so cheap ($29???) go ahead!

Thanks Steve, I thought about getting a stand alone sony, they usually have the resume feature that saves the location up to 5 discs played, and you can take the discs out, and it still remembers. Not sure if the current models do that or not, but they always used to. I'll do a bit of research into that.

Thanks
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