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post #1681 of 3461
8/7/12 at 7:06am
You might have noticed this already, but... the S590 remembers DVD stopping points over a power cycle. A few times lately I've happened to turn mine off in the middle of watching a DVD and when I turned it on again, it started up where it left off. Sometimes I have to back up a chapter or two because I couldn't remember what had been happening, but that's a separate issue wink.gif
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post #1682 of 3461
8/7/12 at 7:06am
I'm always one for another electronic device be it entertainment, computer or Aibo!
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post #1683 of 3461
8/7/12 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

You might have noticed this already, but... the S590 remembers DVD stopping points over a power cycle. A few times lately I've happened to turn mine off in the middle of watching a DVD and when I turned it on again, it started up where it left off. Sometimes I have to back up a chapter or two because I couldn't remember what had been happening, but that's a separate issue wink.gif
That's good to know. I so rarely watch DVDs I hadn't noticed or remembered. Thanks
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post #1684 of 3461
8/7/12 at 2:41pm
So the latest firmware fixes the rgb issue.

Question: I have read that the firmware renders avi files unusable. Is this correct? I hope not.
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post #1685 of 3461
8/7/12 at 3:48pm
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So the latest firmware fixes the rgb issue.
Question: I have read that the firmware renders avi files unusable. Is this correct? I hope not.

No, however depending on which DLNA server you use, you may need to change the DLNA servers settings. See earlier posts on the subject particularly with Serviio.

EyeConnect for example (available for Mac), required no changes with the new firmware.
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post #1686 of 3461
8/7/12 at 6:37pm
Thanks. I'll go ahead and update the firmware. I'll take a look at the earlier posts for serviio. May install eyeconnect as well. Are reviews positive for this server?
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post #1687 of 3461
8/7/12 at 7:31pm
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Thanks. I'll go ahead and update the firmware. I'll take a look at the earlier posts for serviio. May install eyeconnect as well. Are reviews positive for this server?

Its easier to set up and runs in the main preferences. It's got easy integration into iTunes and iPhoto too. If you use it with eye connect then content recorded can then be made available to thr 590. The only downside is it won't see any M2TS files.

You can try it out. 30 day trial. It's quite pricey. I would personally stick with serviio or Homestream.

The easiest way to fix the AVI and mkv issue with serviio or Homestream with the new firmware is to change the profile the DLNA server uses with the bd player with Bravia 2012 on serviio or Bravia on Homestream.
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post #1688 of 3461
8/7/12 at 8:40pm
I was on the fence between this player and the Panasonic 220, as were a lot of other folks. I chose the Sony (59X from Costco), primarily because I was able to configure it fairly easily to stream media from my media center PC. With a few minor tweaks, I was able to use Serviio (and Homestream) pretty easily. I had very little success with Panasonic DLNA, and didn't want to do a network share (clumsier interface) on the Panny, although that is a nice feature. I did prefer the Hulu Plus app on the Panny, I think it has a cleaner interface to search TV shows (including season breakdowns) instead of just huge lists on the Sony. The Panasonic was faster at loading Blu Rays, so there are pros/cons... But in general very happy with the purchase, returning the Panasonic (moving up from a Panny BD35, so this is like light years ahead). DLNA on the Sony is simply very nice.

I do have a question - I looked quickly at the Sony specs on line, does anyone know if the Ethernet port supports 1Gbps, or just 100 Mbps?
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post #1689 of 3461
8/7/12 at 9:04pm
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Just a 100.
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post #1690 of 3461
8/8/12 at 1:08am
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I was on the fence between this player and the Panasonic 220, as were a lot of other folks. I chose the Sony (59X from Costco), primarily because I was able to configure it fairly easily to stream media from my media center PC. With a few minor tweaks, I was able to use Serviio (and Homestream) pretty easily. I had very little success with Panasonic DLNA, and didn't want to do a network share (clumsier interface) on the Panny, although that is a nice feature. I did prefer the Hulu Plus app on the Panny, I think it has a cleaner interface to search TV shows (including season breakdowns) instead of just huge lists on the Sony. The Panasonic was faster at loading Blu Rays, so there are pros/cons... But in general very happy with the purchase, returning the Panasonic (moving up from a Panny BD35, so this is like light years ahead). DLNA on the Sony is simply very nice.
I do have a question - I looked quickly at the Sony specs on line, does anyone know if the Ethernet port supports 1Gbps, or just 100 Mbps?

I can't get the panny to play any video files over dlna aside from .mp4. One of the exclusive niceties of the panny is that has a true zoom for dvd's. To be honest, I only need the feature for 4 movies! Aside from that the panny 220 is the quietest player I've ever used.
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post #1691 of 3461
8/8/12 at 1:09am
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Its easier to set up and runs in the main preferences. It's got easy integration into iTunes and iPhoto too. If you use it with eye connect then content recorded can then be made available to thr 590. The only downside is it won't see any M2TS files.
You can try it out. 30 day trial. It's quite pricey. I would personally stick with serviio or Homestream.
The easiest way to fix the AVI and mkv issue with serviio or Homestream with the new firmware is to change the profile the DLNA server uses with the bd player with Bravia 2012 on serviio or Bravia on Homestream.

Thanks again! I've updated now, and avi file playback with usb stick still works perfectly. Will check out the rgb setting later, and verify that dlna still works with avi.
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post #1692 of 3461
8/8/12 at 3:46am
The main complaint, I've seen about 2012 Panasonic players in general are: network and streaming complaints. While i didn't try the 220, I did try the 87, and while it was the basic feature set of the 2012 models, and I didn't have any issues with streaming. I found that the interface for networked streaming services ran slower. (Netflix was considerably slower to load then on the sony, and it's the same interface now.) The other complaint i had, was the 2012 Panasonic players don't seem to be fully compatible with my 2009, panasonic plasma. While, the operations of the tv turning on, and switching to the player's input worked, and turning off the tv also turned off the player, i was not able to control navigation options from the tv's remote, even though the tv and player recognized each other.

I'm happy to say the sony works perfectly in this respect on both the panny tv and the sony tv.

I've owned 3 panasonic players through the years i've invested in blu-ray, while they are wonderful players, and i'd certainly recommend them to people, for me personally i've gotten to like the sony interface and set of features as a primary player for each room. Living room, and bedroom.
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post #1693 of 3461
8/8/12 at 6:25am
The Costco version, BX59, is currently selling for $119 ($129 minus $10 instant rebate).

Yesterday, I received a sale brochure where it's advertised as $30 off, beginning 8/16. I assume it means $30 off the regular $129, which would make it $99.
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post #1694 of 3461
8/8/12 at 7:58am
If it is 30.00 off the $129.00 price making it 99.00. you still have to add 4.99 shipping & handling plus tax. In my case that would come to $112.53, an excellent price.

I do have some doubts about Costco though. Years ago I bought a Phillips Boom Box from Costco, the model # differed slightly from the original as is the case with the Sony.
Model # BDP-S590 opposed to BDP- BX59.

I did find the Costco unit price cheaper but discovered it was missing a feature the original had, thus the price reduction. I have never forgotten that and since been reluctant to buy electronics from Costco. I'm wondering if the BDP-BX59 is made specifically for Costco and may have inferior parts or missing some features.

I may be overreacting and the Costco unit is exactly like the BDP-S590.
Kindly post your thoughts on my concerns.
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post #1695 of 3461
8/8/12 at 8:43am
Price club versions are usually identical to the retail versions but include extras like an HDMI cable or better remote. At least that's been the case with sony, panasonic, toshiba, LG and samsung for the past several years.
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post #1696 of 3461
8/8/12 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Price club versions are usually identical to the retail versions but include extras like an HDMI cable or better remote. At least that's been the case with sony, panasonic, toshiba, LG and samsung for the past several years.

Thanks for the reply, gives me confidence to make the purchase on August 16,
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post #1697 of 3461
8/8/12 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Itzbinnice View Post

If it is 30.00 off the $129.00 price making it 99.00. you still have to add 4.99 shipping & handling plus tax. In my case that would come to $112.53, an excellent price.
I do have some doubts about Costco though. Years ago I bought a Phillips Boom Box from Costco, the model # differed slightly from the original as is the case with the Sony.
Model # BDP-S590 opposed to BDP- BX59.
I did find the Costco unit price cheaper but discovered it was missing a feature the original had, thus the price reduction. I have never forgotten that and since been reluctant to buy electronics from Costco. I'm wondering if the BDP-BX59 is made specifically for Costco and may have inferior parts or missing some features.
I may be overreacting and the Costco unit is exactly like the BDP-S590.
Kindly post your thoughts on my concerns.

Thanks for the note on this - I'll be able to do a price match at Costco for my purchase at Costco!
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post #1698 of 3461
8/8/12 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by johncourt View Post

I can't get the panny to play any video files over dlna aside from .mp4. One of the exclusive niceties of the panny is that has a true zoom for dvd's. To be honest, I only need the feature for 4 movies! Aside from that the panny 220 is the quietest player I've ever used.

They are both great units. The main reason for my purchase of a new blu ray player was to use dlna streaming from various video library sources on my media center. I could connect directly to a shared drive and play some of my videos (mp4s). But with the Sony, I was able to stream most of my videos natively with no transcoding required. I also installed Homestream, a Sony-rebranded and limited Serviio, for dealing with recorded tv from WMC, and that worked well (after making a few tweaks to the dlna profile). I've since switched back to Serviio, very happy. Now experimenting with some other video feeds with Serviio configuration. I also use Plex, and have had good luck playing anything through that. Panasonic just seemed limited/more work to get dlna working.
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post #1699 of 3461
8/8/12 at 7:29pm
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Its funny. When I first purchased the player and started this thread my main use was using the player with the main streaming services. Its the only player out there that offers all the main streaming services and supports DD or DD+ bitstream playback. Disk playback was definitely secondary. The feature I ended up using the most is actually the DLNA client ! Yup, archive disks and use the Sony to play them back via DLNA. Its a **really, really** good DLNA client !
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post #1700 of 3461
8/8/12 at 8:24pm
For DLNA Sony is clearly superior. Oddly, my computer's fans go crazy with serviio with the sony, but remain completely silent with the panny. Maybe because the panny completely ignores most files except for .mp4?
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post #1701 of 3461
8/8/12 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by johncourt View Post

For DLNA Sony is clearly superior. Oddly, my computer's fans go crazy with serviio with the sony, but remain completely silent with the panny. Maybe because the panny completely ignores most files except for .mp4?

Do you think you might be using file formats that Serviio is transcoding for the Sony? That would explain the high fan activity...
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post #1702 of 3461
8/8/12 at 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by kurnis View Post

ok im going to ask a question that i already know is bad.
but how do i switch profiles (or even choose one to begin with?) i see there is a default profile named "profile" in the folder, but how do i make new ones or choose which ones are selected? is it through the Serviio console?

See the image in post 1666, left click on the profile and you'll be able to change the profile on a drop down menu
Edited by Hikertrash - 8/9/12 at 2:52am
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post #1703 of 3461
8/9/12 at 7:09am
Hi, I recently bought the BDP-S390 and have a few questions. (I tried searching the thread, but with these huge threads you know how that can go...)

- generally the Netflix app is fine, though I prefer Roku's. My only big issue with the Sony version is that 4:3 streaming content, such as the X-Files, gets stretched into 16:9 format. I don't want this, I want it in the original aspect ratio, with bars on the side. Is there a way to fix this? (It's not my TV settings, other 4:3 content such as .avi files will play at the original ratio)

- when streaming files via DLNA, such as .avi or .mkv, how does one skip ahead to points later in the file? Surely, there must be some way other than simply fast-forwarding. Even my previous LG TV from about 4 years ago, which had DLNA, would place skip points every 2 minutes so you could easily jump forward in a media file. Is there nothing similar on this 2012 Sony model? If I have to stop watching a video halfway through, when I want to finish it I find myself transferring the file to my laptop and connecting it to the TV to watch the rest - better than spending 7 minutes fast-forwarding on the Sony DLNA interface.

Thanks for any input. I'd like to see if there's a way to resolve these issue before I consider taking this back to the store.
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post #1704 of 3461
8/9/12 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by slowpogo View Post

Hi, I recently bought the BDP-S390 and have a few questions. (I tried searching the thread, but with these huge threads you know how that can go...)
- generally the Netflix app is fine, though I prefer Roku's. My only big issue with the Sony version is that 4:3 streaming content, such as the X-Files, gets stretched into 16:9 format. I don't want this, I want it in the original aspect ratio, with bars on the side. Is there a way to fix this? (It's not my TV settings, other 4:3 content such as .avi files will play at the original ratio)
- when streaming files via DLNA, such as .avi or .mkv, how does one skip ahead to points later in the file? Surely, there must be some way other than simply fast-forwarding. Even my previous LG TV from about 4 years ago, which had DLNA, would place skip points every 2 minutes so you could easily jump forward in a media file. Is there nothing similar on this 2012 Sony model? If I have to stop watching a video halfway through, when I want to finish it I find myself transferring the file to my laptop and connecting it to the TV to watch the rest - better than spending 7 minutes fast-forwarding on the Sony DLNA interface.
Thanks for any input. I'd like to see if there's a way to resolve these issue before I consider taking this back to the store.

Welcome to AVS. I have the 790, but this should work the same. Go into the setup menu. Go into "Screen Settings", Go to "Screen Format", make sure normal is selected. Full stretches.

S~
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post #1705 of 3461
8/9/12 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by slowpogo View Post

Hi, I recently bought the BDP-S390 and have a few questions. (I tried searching the thread, but with these huge threads you know how that can go...)
- generally the Netflix app is fine, though I prefer Roku's. My only big issue with the Sony version is that 4:3 streaming content, such as the X-Files, gets stretched into 16:9 format. I don't want this, I want it in the original aspect ratio, with bars on the side. Is there a way to fix this? (It's not my TV settings, other 4:3 content such as .avi files will play at the original ratio)
- when streaming files via DLNA, such as .avi or .mkv, how does one skip ahead to points later in the file? Surely, there must be some way other than simply fast-forwarding. Even my previous LG TV from about 4 years ago, which had DLNA, would place skip points every 2 minutes so you could easily jump forward in a media file. Is there nothing similar on this 2012 Sony model? If I have to stop watching a video halfway through, when I want to finish it I find myself transferring the file to my laptop and connecting it to the TV to watch the rest - better than spending 7 minutes fast-forwarding on the Sony DLNA interface.
Thanks for any input. I'd like to see if there's a way to resolve these issue before I consider taking this back to the store.

If chapter markers are present in the MKV file (and you're not transcoding on the DLNA server ... so the Sony is playing them native), then the Sony BDP respects them. You can hit next track / previous track on the remote to move forward and back.

One other thing the Sony will do. If you hit stop in the middle of playing a file, so long as you ... dont try and play another file, or stop the DLNA server .... or you dont switch the player off, then it will playback from where it was stopped last time.
Edited by apw2607 - 8/9/12 at 9:21am
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post #1706 of 3461
8/9/12 at 1:56pm
Looks like I'm a new S390 owner. It will be arriving from Amazon on Friday! smile.gif
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8/9/12 at 2:54pm
Is the BDPBX59 being sold @ BJ Wholesale the same model as the S590?
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post #1708 of 3461
8/9/12 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Do you think you might be using file formats that Serviio is transcoding for the Sony? That would explain the high fan activity...

Could be! I just turned off transcoding in settings. We'll see.

OTOH, I see my thumbnails in photos have disappeared after this firmware update. Anyone else notice this? I jus get a generic camera icon instead.
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post #1709 of 3461
8/9/12 at 3:22pm
I'll get a price match next week then. Woohoo! Thanks for posting this dougotte!
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Originally Posted by Itzbinnice View Post

If it is 30.00 off the $129.00 price making it 99.00. you still have to add 4.99 shipping & handling plus tax. In my case that would come to $112.53, an excellent price.
I do have some doubts about Costco though. Years ago I bought a Phillips Boom Box from Costco, the model # differed slightly from the original as is the case with the Sony.
Model # BDP-S590 opposed to BDP- BX59.
I did find the Costco unit price cheaper but discovered it was missing a feature the original had, thus the price reduction. I have never forgotten that and since been reluctant to buy electronics from Costco. I'm wondering if the BDP-BX59 is made specifically for Costco and may have inferior parts or missing some features.
I may be overreacting and the Costco unit is exactly like the BDP-S590.
Kindly post your thoughts on my concerns.
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post #1710 of 3461
8/9/12 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by BFJ 96 View Post

Is the BDPBX59 being sold @ BJ Wholesale the same model as the S590?

The 59 includes a HDMI cable in the box. Other than that its the same.
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