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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Supporting the new wishlists feature with Amazon VOD is awesome. Note that the Sony players are some of the few out there that can play Dolby Digital 5.1 bitstream audio from Amazon.
Nice to see the minor facelift for the Amazon player; much better organization, but the miniscule, mostly unreadable cover thumbs are still in force. It also continues to take typically 45 seconds or longer to start stream playback for me.
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OK, so after reading all 60 pages of this thread; I picked up the 59x from Costco (which BTW has a no clip coupon for $30 off, bringing the total to $98, counldnt resist)

I must say, I didn't encounter any issues with the setup. Using wireless (802.11g), the unit updated itself and turned off. was around 8min.
When it rebooted I logged into Netflx and then Amazon. Didn't like that I had to register with Sony first to use the Amazon app, but whatever.

Netflix came right up and I started streaming Captain America. Picture looked great. Next was Oceans Eleven on Amazon. Again, looked great. According the Amazon app, network speed was around 17.5 to 19mbps.

Haven't even tried a disc yet. Going to fire up the newly released Jaws tonight.

I downloaded the app for my iPhone and its not bad. The frustrating part is that the keyboard text entry cant seem to be used everywhere. I could use it for Amazon, but not for Netflix.

Thanks for all the great info, so far very happy with the purchase!
Ron
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I've been watching some shows on netflix lately and i've noticed a few glitches. Most go away on their own though. Lately i've had one issue of jerky playback, and sync issues with a couple episodes.

I have my netflix quality set to good, so it's optimized for my mobile data, so i can still use netflix without killing my data cap really fast. Has anyone had issues with netflix streaming lately? or is this just maybe netflix network issues ? As a whole things have worked fine, these are only intermittent one time issues it seems like.
post #1804 of 3991
MacinMan,

Jerkiness is caused by limited or intermittent network throughput. If you're using a wireless connection, there are many things which can interfere with that signal (microwave oven, cordless phones, other wireless networks in the neighborhood, etc). You could also be seeing problems caused by your neighbors using a large fraction of your ISP's locally available bandwidth, or there could be problems farther upstream from you.
post #1805 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

MacinMan,
Jerkiness is caused by limited or intermittent network throughput. If you're using a wireless connection, there are many things which can interfere with that signal (microwave oven, cordless phones, other wireless networks in the neighborhood, etc). You could also be seeing problems caused by your neighbors using a large fraction of your ISP's locally available bandwidth, or there could be problems farther upstream from you.

I've used wireless for years, without a lot of these issues. I am aware of what you are talking about. These problems seem to be either encoding issues on behalf of netflix or, the 590 units have a bug in the netflix software..

Let me give you a better example of what i'm experiencing, since i was somewhat vague before.

I'm watching the spider man series from the 90's, and the episodes play fine, however on the 590 units it seems to be on the very last couple frames of the episode when it's ending, the video will freeze and the audio will continue, and then the video will catch up and it will end. I am aware of network problems,but since it seems to happen about the same place on several episodes in a similar way, I'm thinking encoding issues. I'm also watching from the 570, to see if unit related, and i'm only seen the random issues on the 590 units and the current netflxi interface. I'm trying to see if it's a player issue or content issue to see if the problem is reproducible on any netflix interface. The only other thing I can think of is if verizon is having a problem with their 4G network. I don't have cable internet currently I have verizon 4G via a MiFi hotspot that powers my devices by wifi.
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Originally Posted by John Stockton View Post

Forgive me if this has been covered before, but If I want to use the 590 to browse the web, can I connect a Keyboard and a Mouse to the USB ports and browse like a regular PC??
Thanks

Not sure but I tend to doubt it. I think they're used for audio or video files.

I recently (yesterday) got a Droid 4 and installed the Media Remote app. With it I was able to not only use the phone as a remote but as a keyboard and mouse. Once I zoomed in, the browser was a lot more readable, but the touch pad was rather sensitive. I suppose with a little more practice it would be more practical.
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Where's Serial Number on S-390?

Hello Everyone,
I recently bought a Sony S390 which a friend installed, I'm disabled and so couldn't install it myself. I need to get the serial number off the Blu-ray player, I was able to turn it enough to see the back where I see two numbers that could be the serial numbers but can't tell for sure. One is a seven digit number printed below the model number and the other is a nine digit number that looks as though it's stamped into the lower right-hand corner in the back of the player, I'm assuming that number is the serial number? Thanks in advance for your info.

PS, this is the first Blu-ray player I've ever bought, so far I've only seen parts of WALL-E and Saving Private Ryan in Blu-ray on my Sony 46EX620 (also a recent purchase) and was totally AMAZED at the picture quality. Can't wait to get the audio issues straightened out (can't seem to get DTS) but I'm psyched!
post #1808 of 3991
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Originally Posted by John Stockton View Post

Forgive me if this has been covered before, but If I want to use the 590 to browse the web, can I connect a Keyboard and a Mouse to the USB ports and browse like a regular PC??
It can recognize a wired USB keyboard (doesn't have drivers for wireless) but not a mouse.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Nice to see the minor facelift for the Amazon player; much better organization, but the miniscule, mostly unreadable cover thumbs are still in force. It also continues to take typically 45 seconds or longer to start stream playback for me.

Yea, I agree. Its not great for browsing through Amazon's selection. Fortunately (for me), I can use my iPad, add it to the wishlist and view on the Sony ... then I'm all set.
post #1810 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Yea, I agree. Its not great for browsing through Amazon's selection. Fortunately (for me), I can use my iPad, add it to the wishlist and view on the Sony ... then I'm all set.

I don't own an iPad, but I own a verizon iPhone 4. I've been looking for a solution to get access to my amazon instant video on my iphone. do you have any solutions? I have amazon's mobile app but it doesn't seem to do instant video playback. If you have suggestions, I'd like to know.


Thanks.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

It can recognize a wired USB keyboard (doesn't have drivers for wireless) but not a mouse.

Yes it does recognize a mouse BUT believe that the mouse is a "real basic" mouse like one from Kensington or some other very low cost version.

Don't know how well the mouse does as the browser has Java script & that locked up a website I was trying to get to for checking a video clip online. The huge problem with with many websites, including those by the news channels, is the "popups" that also include very annoying sound effects especially when one is listening to a CD.

Some "popup" won't allow exiting unless you click on OK for the popup to do its thing. The popup I encountered stayed on & just locked up the Sony as it was "doing something" or whatever. Perhaps that is how the Opera browser works badly.

Thinking of getting a usb splitter, it it exists, so that the keyboard & mouse can work at the same time; but not sure the websites allow it. Also, the font size need to be enlarged but don't know if Opera/Sony is disallowing increasing system font size to follow the Apple way of doing things.
post #1812 of 3991
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Originally Posted by citrus View Post

Yes it does recognize a mouse BUT believe that the mouse is a "real basic" mouse like one from Kensington or some other very low cost version.
Don't know how well the mouse does as the browser has Java script & that locked up a website I was trying to get to for checking a video clip online. The huge problem with with many websites, including those by the news channels, is the "popups" that also include very annoying sound effects especially when one is listening to a CD.
Some "popup" won't allow exiting unless you click on OK for the popup to do its thing. The popup I encountered stayed on & just locked up the Sony as it was "doing something" or whatever. Perhaps that is how the Opera browser works badly.
Thinking of getting a usb splitter, it it exists, so that the keyboard & mouse can work at the same time; but not sure the websites allow it. Also, the font size need to be enlarged but don't know if Opera/Sony is disallowing increasing system font size to follow the Apple way of doing things.

Get an apple usb keyboard, they have two usb ports in the keyboard one on each end, so you can plug in a mouse.

And they aren't real expensive now, about $50.
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A USB "splitter" is alwo known as a USB hub. They're readily available at your local computer hardware outlet. A powered hub (one which includes a "wall wart" external power supply) can be used if you want to try using a disk drive which needs a lot of power. They cost more than the un-powered hubs which usually are adequate for keyboards, mice and thumb-drives.
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@Selden Ball:

I seem to have fixed my netflix issues, i switched the video quality from Good to Better Quality in netflix settings, it still doesn't allow for HD playback since I want to conserve data over 4G, but the problems seem to have gone away. I'm also on the next season of the show, so, it could have also been a few badly encoded episodes.
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MacinMan,

Thanks for the update! It's annoying how complex, buggy and obscure the "smart media" services are.
post #1816 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla View Post

Hello Everyone,
I recently bought a Sony S390 which a friend installed, I'm disabled and so couldn't install it myself. I need to get the serial number off the Blu-ray player, I was able to turn it enough to see the back where I see two numbers that could be the serial numbers but can't tell for sure. One is a seven digit number printed below the model number and the other is a nine digit number that looks as though it's stamped into the lower right-hand corner in the back of the player, I'm assuming that number is the serial number? Thanks in advance for your info.
PS, this is the first Blu-ray player I've ever bought, so far I've only seen parts of WALL-E and Saving Private Ryan in Blu-ray on my Sony 46EX620 (also a recent purchase) and was totally AMAZED at the picture quality. Can't wait to get the audio issues straightened out (can't seem to get DTS) but I'm psyched!

The Serial number is always on the Box the 390 came in. It's a lot lighter to handle and rotate.
post #1817 of 3991
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

I don't own an iPad, but I own a verizon iPhone 4. I've been looking for a solution to get access to my amazon instant video on my iphone. do you have any solutions? I have amazon's mobile app but it doesn't seem to do instant video playback. If you have suggestions, I'd like to know.
Thanks.

Until amazon release instant video for iPhone then no.

You can however still goto the instant video area at amazon.com using safari (on your phone) and add content to your wishlist. Then it's ready for your Sony BDP.
post #1818 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

A USB "splitter" is alwo known as a USB hub. They're readily available at your local computer hardware outlet. A powered hub (one which includes a "wall wart" external power supply) can be used if you want to try using a disk drive which needs a lot of power. They cost more than the un-powered hubs which usually are adequate for keyboards, mice and thumb-drives.

Dummy me. I was thinking in terms like a splitter for headphone jacks & the like.

I still have a small usb hub & just tried it on the Sony BX58/S590 I got yesterday. The huge problem with the mouse is on websites that do "fancy" stuff in popups & new windows where the java script can run "forever".

One can hit the options button to get to the browser setup & disable the java script for Opera browser; may have to flip it off/on to try to get past the "get a good experience with java script on". With java script on, the mouse arrow kinda "floats" or has a floating movement; hard to get quick accuracy on a selection.

Nice idea that needs much working & there should be an instruction that the "home" button is also the exit key to exit the browser; just like when using netflix which exits netflix into the sony menu.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

It can recognize a wired USB keyboard (doesn't have drivers for wireless) but not a mouse.

I got a USB mouse to work for web browsing on the S790, so I am assuming it will work on the 390/590. I am hoping the upcoming Harmony QWERTY will intergrate remote, keyboard, mouse into one device to use with the player.
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Am I missing something? I can't seem to get my BDP-BX59 to output any dts signal at all. Any DTS-ES dvd gets switched to Dolby Pro-Logic, and any DTS-HD blu-ray gets the same. It can play Dolby Digital just fine. Last time this happened, I had to enable DTS in my PS3 XMB but I don't see any settings for this on the blu-ray XMB. I've read the thread and turned BD Audio mix to OFF, but that isn't helping.

I had this working with my PS3 and my ONKYO TXSR-500 so I don't know why this blu-ray player is not working right....mad.gif
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Originally Posted by Wedge View Post

Am I missing something? I can't seem to get my BDP-BX59 to output any dts signal at all. Any DTS-ES dvd gets switched to Dolby Pro-Logic, and any DTS-HD blu-ray gets the same. It can play Dolby Digital just fine. Last time this happened, I had to enable DTS in my PS3 XMB but I don't see any settings for this on the blu-ray XMB. I've read the thread and turned BD Audio mix to OFF, but that isn't helping.
I had this working with my PS3 and my ONKYO TXSR-500 so I don't know why this blu-ray player is not working right....mad.gif

Hunger Games had no audio on either my Sony BDP-S790 nor my OPPO 93 on the 7.1 DTS-HD. The OPPO, the Forum Members said to change the Bitstream to LPCM, and that got the OPPO working. On the Sony, I changed some of the settings, and then had Audio for the 7.1 as well. Can't remember which ones I changed (I changed about 3 items), but did have audio after. So you just have to work on the Audio settings.
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Originally Posted by Wedge View Post

Am I missing something? I can't seem to get my BDP-BX59 to output any dts signal at all. Any DTS-ES dvd gets switched to Dolby Pro-Logic, and any DTS-HD blu-ray gets the same. It can play Dolby Digital just fine. Last time this happened, I had to enable DTS in my PS3 XMB but I don't see any settings for this on the blu-ray XMB. I've read the thread and turned BD Audio mix to OFF, but that isn't helping.
I had this working with my PS3 and my ONKYO TXSR-500 so I don't know why this blu-ray player is not working right....mad.gif


You didn't mention any limitations of your receiver, but from some quick research online, the TX SR-500 seems to be an older receiver that does not support HDMI. Therefore you cannot reproduce full DTS-HD, or Dolby TrueHD. However, you should still be able to get the core DTS or Dolby surround soundtrack in those cases. It sounds like the player is sending out a stereo PCM signal when DTS audio is present for some reason.

Do you have the "Dolby Digital/DTS" setting set to "Bitstream" and the "Downmix" setting on "Surround" on the BD player? How do you have the audio connected to the receiver, optical or coaxial?
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I have all my sources connecting to my Sony EX-500 TV thru HDMI. I have my TV's audio out going back to my receiver via Optical. The TV passes the digital bitstreams to the Receiver for output. On my PS3, I had to manually set the HDMI audio settings to include DD and DTS and that allowed the standard (non HD) bitstreams to be sent and decoded correctly. On the BDP-BX59, there is no way to manually set the bitstreams for HDMI audio, just PCM or AUTO are the selections. So for some unknown reason this player is only sending DD bitstreams through HDMI, and not DTS. This is kind of a deal breaker... I've got everything set the way it's supposed to according to the first post in this thread so I'm getting upset. If I can't find a solution for this my only choices are, return the player and get a new one, or buy a brand new AVR. UGH.

J.
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Originally Posted by Wedge View Post

I have all my sources connecting to my Sony EX-500 TV thru HDMI. I have my TV's audio out going back to my receiver via Optical. The TV passes the digital bitstreams to the Receiver for output. On my PS3, I had to manually set the HDMI audio settings to include DD and DTS and that allowed the standard (non HD) bitstreams to be sent and decoded correctly. On the BDP-BX59, there is no way to manually set the bitstreams for HDMI audio, just PCM or AUTO are the selections. So for some unknown reason this player is only sending DD bitstreams through HDMI, and not DTS. This is kind of a deal breaker... I've got everything set the way it's supposed to according to the first post in this thread so I'm getting upset. If I can't find a solution for this my only choices are, return the player and get a new one, or buy a brand new AVR. UGH.
J.


As I think you have surmised, the problem seems to be that the BD player is sending the audio to your TV via HDMI in a format in which your TV is not able to pass through directly to your receiver. Therefore, the TV is likely downmixing the soundtrack to stereo PCM. I think your solution is to connect the optical or coaxial digital audio output from the BD player directly to one of the inputs on your receiver. This will mean that you have to make two source selections to select the BD player (via the TV for HDMI video and via the receiver for audio), but it should allow you to get discrete surround sound with any disc which has a discrete surround soundtrack. If you don't have an extra digital cable laying around, try moving the optical cable from your TV over to your BD player temporarily to confirm this will work.
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So I've got this situation sorted. I had to connect the blu-ray player to my receiver via optical and assign a new input. So now at least I have the DTS output.

Funny how my PS3 will work in the current setup and the BDP- BX59 won't.
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Hi all. We just picked up the CostCo version of this player (bx59) and are aiming to stream movies and whatnot using a DLNA server via our Mac. I think we're set on the server side and have been foiled by what should be the easiest part. The instructions say to select the DLNA server icon from video, music or photo menus on the player... but I swear, no such icon is showing up! I feel like this thing is trying to gaslight me. Is there a setting on the player to turn on DLNA? Has anyone experienced this? And yep, the internet is connected and is working...
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Originally Posted by delecto View Post

Hi all. We just picked up the CostCo version of this player (bx59) and are aiming to stream movies and whatnot using a DLNA server via our Mac. I think we're set on the server side and have been foiled by what should be the easiest part. The instructions say to select the DLNA server icon from video, music or photo menus on the player... but I swear, no such icon is showing up! I feel like this thing is trying to gaslight me. Is there a setting on the player to turn on DLNA? Has anyone experienced this? And yep, the internet is connected and is working...

Try going to Setup > Network Settings > Connection Server Settings. From there, choose Options and select 'Update Server List'. Make sure the server you want is set to 'Shown', you should then see your server under the various source menus.
Edited by Vampidemic - 8/27/12 at 7:08am
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Has anyone had problem with a white flickering line? I do.

I just got this player 2 days ago, and from the moment I started using it there was a flickering line of pixels across the screen that would appear every once in a while. It's not just during video playback, it happens on the player's menu and everything. I was watching a movie on it yesterday, and sometimes it happened every few minutes, sometimes every few seconds. It's connected by HDMI to a Sony Bravia. I already tried using a different HDMI cable...no go.

Any thoughts? Sony's support hasn't helped me much.

Thanks in advance. Buying BD players has been a hassle for me. Last time we got one for another room in the house, the player was so horrible we just returned it and bought a PS3. I don't want to have to get another PS3. This player is pretty awesome aside from the flickering.
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Originally Posted by lazengann View Post

Has anyone had problem with a white flickering line? I do.

I just got this player 2 days ago, and from the moment I started using it there was a flickering line of pixels across the screen that would appear every once in a while. It's not just during video playback, it happens on the player's menu and everything. I was watching a movie on it yesterday, and sometimes it happened every few minutes, sometimes every few seconds. It's connected by HDMI to a Sony Bravia. I already tried using a different HDMI cable...no go.

Any thoughts? Sony's support hasn't helped me much.

Thanks in advance. Buying BD players has been a hassle for me. Last time we got one for another room in the house, the player was so horrible we just returned it and bought a PS3. I don't want to have to get another PS3. This player is pretty awesome aside from the flickering.

Try disabling 'Deep Color' on the BD player. I had various issues including weird flickering white lines and audio drop outs on my AVR that were resolved by turning Deep Color off.
post #1830 of 3991
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Originally Posted by lazengann View Post

Has anyone had problem with a white flickering line? I do.
I just got this player 2 days ago, and from the moment I started using it there was a flickering line of pixels across the screen that would appear every once in a while. It's not just during video playback, it happens on the player's menu and everything. I was watching a movie on it yesterday, and sometimes it happened every few minutes, sometimes every few seconds. It's connected by HDMI to a Sony Bravia. I already tried using a different HDMI cable...no go.

Have you upgraded the firmware? That may work if Vampidemic's suggestion of Disabling Deep Color didn't help.
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