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post #2221 of 3462
11/28/12 at 12:09pm
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Hi all, speaking of Sony Essentials is anyone able to log into it?
I can't log in for 9 days and Sony is no help. I get the message "Login failed. Either your login information is incorrect, or the account has been disabled. Please try again." and I try a few more times and I get this message " You have exceeded the maximum number of log in attempts. Please contact us at 1-877-731-7669 or by email at sonystyle@custhelp.com for assistance with your Account".
I can't understand why it would take this long for Sony Website Support Team to correct my log in issue.

Double check your spam folder ... this once happened to me, and they had sent me a link to reset my password, but it went to my spam folder.
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post #2222 of 3462
11/28/12 at 3:12pm
Is there any way to stream flash videos from the browser? I'm able to do it from my PS3 which is even older so I find this a bit sad.

Also is there no way to stream an HD youtube video?
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post #2223 of 3462
11/28/12 at 4:25pm
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Is there any way to stream flash videos from the browser? I'm able to do it from my PS3 which is even older so I find this a bit sad.
Also is there no way to stream an HD youtube video?

Nope to both.
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post #2224 of 3462
11/28/12 at 4:40pm
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Double check your spam folder ... this once happened to me, and they had sent me a link to reset my password, but it went to my spam folder.

They did sent me a reset link but it was messed up. No box to enter new password and no box to re-enter new password to confirm. All it had was the words "Reset Your Password" and "Submit" but neither was I able to click on (odd).
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post #2225 of 3462
11/28/12 at 4:51pm
Hey Guys, just bought this unit today and having a few issues. Did a quick thread search but did not see anything specific.
I have several home videos I encoded and am having random issues. Is there a full list of audio and video supported?

I have several hundred avi files encoded as H.264 (I thought they were xvid) I would hate to re-encode them all and degrade them all
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post #2226 of 3462
11/28/12 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by ASR6491 View Post

Hey Guys, just bought this unit today and having a few issues. Did a quick thread search but did not see anything specific.
I have several home videos I encoded and am having random issues. Is there a full list of audio and video supported?
I have several hundred avi files encoded as H.264 (I thought they were xvid) I would hate to re-encode them all and degrade them all

apparently you cant play H.264 via DLNA according to support. I am kinda mad now. I really dont want to deal with hunting down another device or re-encoding all my home videos.
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post #2227 of 3462
11/28/12 at 5:30pm
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Nope to both.

Thanks for the reply. Hopefully they get that fixed because from what I can tell, other players such as recent Samsung's can stream HD youtube and they DO have a flash browser (though I'd assume it's laggy for flash videos unless you have a great internet set-up).

I did find info from this thread on how you can use Serviio using this tutorial (http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=stream_pc) to stream your desktop including any videos from your PC on the internet to the blu-ray player. It seems long and I dunno if it'll work on a laptop from 3 yrs ago running on an older dual core processor but I'll give it a try.

There aren't any media players under $100 in Canada that successfully have flash internet browsers plus HD youtube are there? Otherwise going with that plus a cheap blu-ray player would work for me instead of the 390.
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post #2228 of 3462
11/28/12 at 5:48pm
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apparently you cant play H.264 via DLNA according to support. I am kinda mad now. I really dont want to deal with hunting down another device or re-encoding all my home videos.

H.264 streams through DLNA just fine but you need the proper software on your DLNA server to make them streamable. Xvid or not is up to your PC how to serve them. You need somekind of software (either a codec pack or special DLNA server software). I can stream BD ripped in mkv with DTS-HD audio intact directly to my player.
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post #2229 of 3462
11/28/12 at 5:57pm
Must be cuz my twonky server on my MyBook World Edition II is still ver 5.1. Attempting to upgrade the firmware and might have to purchase a license for v7 of twonky and I should be good to go.
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post #2230 of 3462
11/28/12 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

H.264 streams through DLNA just fine but you need the proper software on your DLNA server to make them streamable. Xvid or not is up to your PC how to serve them. You need somekind of software (either a codec pack or special DLNA server software). I can stream BD ripped in mkv with DTS-HD audio intact directly to my player.

Well no luck, upgraded to twonky 7.0.9 on my NAS and the blu ray is still saying unsupported format or corrupt file :/
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post #2231 of 3462
11/28/12 at 8:03pm
From what I am reading, twonky on the NAS is not going to do any live transcoding etc. I still need to have the videos on the NAS in the format that the 590 supports. Is the case? Otherwise I might need something like tversity or whatever.
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post #2232 of 3462
11/28/12 at 9:39pm
So I got the 590 the other day. So far playback has been flawless -- it's had no problems playing discs that my late model Panasonic had all kinds of problems with.

But there have been a few times when the player locked up when loading a disc -- the screen is blank and the display just says home. If I pull the power cord and plug back in everything returns to normal. Is this a known issue with the 590?
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post #2233 of 3462
11/29/12 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by von Levi View Post

So I got the 590 the other day. So far playback has been flawless -- it's had no problems playing discs that my late model Panasonic had all kinds of problems with.
But there have been a few times when the player locked up when loading a disc -- the screen is blank and the display just says home. If I pull the power cord and plug back in everything returns to normal. Is this a known issue with the 590?

Did you check the Sony support page here? http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=BDPS590&template_id=1&region_id=1&tab=howto#/howtoTab

There is also firmware updates if you don't have yours connected to the internet to update it automatically.
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post #2234 of 3462
11/29/12 at 6:39am
thanks, but I've already done all of that.
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post #2235 of 3462
11/29/12 at 8:56am
I just got a Samsung PN60E8000 60" 16:9 plasma tv and a Sony BDP-S590 Blu-ray player. Then I went to the library and borrowed several Blu-ray movies that advertised 16:9 on the back.

Avatar
Harry Potter
Underworld

Avatar was beautiful and filled the screen! But the other two had black bars on top and bottom. Why is that? And no matter what settings I choose on the Blu-ray player or the tv I can't get rid of the bars.

I feel like a movie that specifies that it is 16:9 should be exactly 1.78 and should have no black bars on a 16:9 tv but apparently it doesn't work lik that?

Does anyone know how to get rid of the black bars on my particular tv or blu-ray player? I don't want to burn in those stupid black bars!

Thanks!
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post #2236 of 3462
11/29/12 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity View Post

I just got a Samsung PN60E8000 60" 16:9 plasma tv and a Sony BDP-S590 Blu-ray player. Then I went to the library and borrowed several Blu-ray movies that advertised 16:9 on the back.
Avatar
Harry Potter
Underworld
Avatar was beautiful and filled the screen! But the other two had black bars on top and bottom. Why is that? And no matter what settings I choose on the Blu-ray player or the tv I can't get rid of the bars.
I feel like a movie that specifies that it is 16:9 should be exactly 1.78 and should have no black bars on a 16:9 tv but apparently it doesn't work lik that?
Does anyone know how to get rid of the black bars on my particular tv or blu-ray player? I don't want to burn in those stupid black bars!
Thanks!

Without getting into the details, generally speaking, films are shot at two different widescreen aspect ratios: 1.85:1 and 2.35:1.

1.85:1 almost entirely fits the 16:9 screen size, and sometimes the films are reframed down to 1.78:1 so that they are an exact fit.

2.35:1 is wider, and thus, you get the black bars at the top and bottom.
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post #2237 of 3462
11/29/12 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by von Levi View Post

Without getting into the details, generally speaking, films are shot at two different widescreen aspect ratios: 1.85:1 and 2.35:1.
1.85:1 almost entirely fits the 16:9 screen size, and sometimes the films are reframed down to 1.78:1 so that they are an exact fit.
2.35:1 is wider, and thus, you get the black bars at the top and bottom.

Got it. But should I worried about the black bars burning into the plasma screen into this new tv? And if so, I'd there a option to zoom in to the image to get rid of the bars? I can't find an option to zoom in enough.
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post #2238 of 3462
11/29/12 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity View Post

Got it. But should I worried about the black bars burning into the plasma screen into this new tv? And if so, I'd there a option to zoom in to the image to get rid of the bars? I can't find an option to zoom in enough.

Maybe if you're doing a 12-hour marathon of 2.35:1 films. Plasmas have been on the market for so long that at this point I'd think you'd really have to abuse the TV to get burn in.

The TV has a zoom function -- it should be on the remote.
Edited by von Levi - 11/29/12 at 9:53am
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post #2239 of 3462
11/29/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

H.264 streams through DLNA just fine but you need the proper software on your DLNA server to make them streamable. Xvid or not is up to your PC how to serve them. You need somekind of software (either a codec pack or special DLNA server software). I can stream BD ripped in mkv with DTS-HD audio intact directly to my player.

For H264 ? I dont think so. The 590 can stream those without any trans-coding enabled on the DLNA server (so long as the files are not DRMed).

Stick the file on a Hard drive/USB stick and try it in the front usb slot ... see if it plays.

Again though folks when you say files dont play, its much better to provide details of the file using a program like Media Inspector. It provides all the info you need when trying to troubleshoot playback issues. So many audio and video codecs, profile level, versions, resolutions, frame rates, bit-rates to consider.

E.g. Media info output.

General
Complete name : /Media/iTunes/test.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Codec ID : M4V
File size : 54.7 MiB
Duration : 4mn 8s
Overall bit rate : 1 842 Kbps
Movie name :
Album :
Album/Performer :
Performer :
Recorded date :
Encoded date : UTC 2008-02-20 23:42:05
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-14 07:31:25
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Copyright :

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 4mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 542 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4 006 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.167
Stream size : 45.7 MiB (84%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2008-02-20 23:51:22
Tagged date : UTC 2008-02-20 23:51:48
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 4mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 255 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 327 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 7.58 MiB (14%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2008-02-20 23:51:22
Tagged date : UTC 2008-02-20 23:51:48

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ID : 3
Language : English
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post #2240 of 3462
11/29/12 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by von Levi View Post

Maybe if you're doing a 12-hour marathon of 2.35:1 films. Plasmas have been on the market for so long that at this point I'd think you'd really have to abuse the TV to get burn in.
The TV has a zoom function -- it should be on the remote.

Excellent! Then I won't worry so much about burn in and just watch the occasional letterbox movie!

Can't find a zoom button on mupy remote though. Oh well.
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post #2241 of 3462
11/29/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity View Post

Excellent! Then I won't worry so much about burn in and just watch the occasional letterbox movie!
Can't find a zoom button on mupy remote though. Oh well.

Check the manual, but if it's like my Samsung TV, it's labeled as "P.SIZE"
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post #2242 of 3462
11/29/12 at 11:45am
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Excellent! Then I won't worry so much about burn in and just watch the occasional letterbox movie!
Can't find a zoom button on mupy remote though. Oh well.

I wouldn't worry about burn in from black at all. White leaves the most ghosting burn-in but even my 5 year old Samsung plasma has a screen saver feature that will do rolling white to black gradient that in effect restores the screen back to original state if I've been watching too much ESPN with a ticker or station with a logo showing up. I run that screen saver for about 1 min and I can't see a thing after.

Check your tv menu for a screen saver or similar option that may flicker/flash/scroll a gradient to help restore it back to remove any burn-in which is sorta a misleading term any longer. Image retention is more correct these days as the retained image does fade - rather quickly and not truly burn-in like the early plasmas did. The caveat to this is a brand new Plasma is the most susceptible to image retention and you want to take it easy on a new display for the first 100 hours or so and be extra careful to not let a static image display for a long time.

Letterbox away.
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post #2243 of 3462
11/29/12 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by von Levi View Post

Check the manual, but if it's like my Samsung TV, it's labeled as "P.SIZE"

I see p.size. But none of the options zoom in enough to get rid of the bars. And zoom 1 and zoom 2 are greyed out (I read it is greyed out for 1080 source material). frown.gif
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post #2244 of 3462
11/29/12 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity View Post

I see p.size. But none of the options zoom in enough to get rid of the bars. And zoom 1 and zoom 2 are greyed out (I read it is greyed out for 1080 source material). frown.gif

Well, if you zoom you're going to degraded the quality of the picture...
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11/29/12 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity View Post

I see p.size. But none of the options zoom in enough to get rid of the bars. And zoom 1 and zoom 2 are greyed out (I read it is greyed out for 1080 source material). frown.gif

Well, if you zoom you're going to degraded the quality of the picture...

Zooming should not noticeably degrade the quality of the picture. It spreads each incoming pixel over more than one display pixel, although it does cut off the sides of widescreen presentations if you're using a display with a fixed size. This slight blurring normally is undetectable.

Many people who have a front projector like to electronically stretch the image vertically so it uses all of the scanlines of their projector's display chip(s). They then use an anamorphic lens to expand the image horizontally, which corrects for the vertical stretch. This can provide some advantages -- like being able to watch movies with a constant height, but differing widths. This is similar to how movies are shown in many commercial theaters. Black panels are moved to the sides to expose a larger width of screen when widescreen movies are shown.
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post #2246 of 3462
11/29/12 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

For H264 ? I dont think so. The 590 can stream those without any trans-coding enabled on the DLNA server (so long as the files are not DRMed).
Stick the file on a Hard drive/USB stick and try it in the front usb slot ... see if it plays.
Again though folks when you say files dont play, its much better to provide details of the file using a program like Media Inspector. It provides all the info you need when trying to troubleshoot playback issues. So many audio and video codecs, profile level, versions, resolutions, frame rates, bit-rates to consider.


Are you talking to me? Did you even understand what I posted?
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post #2247 of 3462
11/29/12 at 3:43pm
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Are you talking to me? Did you even understand what I posted?

Sure. Perhaps not.

I thought you said "H.264 streams through DLNA just fine but you need the proper software on your DLNA server to make them streamable"

What special software are you referring to? You just need to tell the DLNA server where the files are. Transcoding is not required for these files nor is "special software". The 590 will play them back natively.

"Xvid or not is up to your PC how to serve them. You need somekind of software (either a codec pack or special DLNA server software)."

Xvid's playback on the S590 without again any "special software"

When you say special software ... are you just referring to the DLNA server software itself or something else?

Am I missing something here ?
Edited by apw2607 - 11/29/12 at 3:49pm
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post #2248 of 3462
11/29/12 at 4:42pm
For example, mkvs are not going to be listed or streamable out of box on a Win7 PC using the default Windows Media Sharing which is a quite capable DLNA server. Same goes for Divx or Xvid. What part of that you are not agree with? You can stream m2ts, mpeg and wmv files with the default Win7 DLNA server. You will need to install either 3rd party codecs or 3rd party DLNA server software in order to stream these other formats that Windows does not natively support.
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post #2249 of 3462
11/29/12 at 6:13pm
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I know nothing about "windows media sharing". I was just replying to the original question about Mpeg4/XVid or H264 with DLNA that the OP asked about. I didn't realize they were trying to use Windows 7, windows media sharing and a PC. In any case, the 590 can play all those back via a DLNA server or USB thumb/hard drive despite what might be printed in the owners manual or speaking to Sony support. The fact that some or all of those formats isn't supported by Windows Media Sharing suggests Windows Media Sharing isn't very flexible to me (to put it mildly)

I'm using DLNA on a Mac with my 590 and 790, although do have a VMware with Windows 7 on it. Guess i could fire that up, to do some testing, but all the testing I have done with DLNA when I started this thread is with Mac OSX Serviio/Homestream and EyeConnect.
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post #2250 of 3462
11/30/12 at 7:38am
No problem. My statement is still true. On Windows, you can use the default DLNA server without the need to install 3rd party server software. But you have to live with the limitation (MKV is deliberately not supported by MS). On Mac OSX you have to install those 3rd party DLNA server software. So, how a mkv or divx is served to your player is totally dependen on the capability of the DLNA server software.

The special software I refering to is the DLNA server or codecs for Win7. And there are million different codec packs for Windows out there.
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