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post #2281 of 3464
12/3/12 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by dockster View Post

I just got the S590 and I'm trying to play videos off of my laptop. The problem I'm seeing is that it does not list all of the video files in the specific folder. Only some of them. The new ones are of the .mp4 extension and are playable but are not listed. How can I force a "refresh" of the folder files? Anything else I should be checking? Very frustrated over here...

Assuming your using a DLNA server to serve the files from your pc to the s590, there should be a option to refresh the folder or library.

If your using windows media server as the DLNA server I would suggest you try Serviio.
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post #2282 of 3464
12/3/12 at 9:32pm
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Interesting ... How this thread seems more focused on the DLNA playback over BD or DVD playback lately !! Guess the times they are a changin'
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post #2283 of 3464
12/3/12 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

With Serviio, the good news it does play the file ... The bad news is only around 5 seconds of it before it just stops. Think you saw the same thing though.
It does play on my Apple TV 3 though however the audio is only reported as AAC
I'll have a play around and look at the file in more detail when I get a second.
As a side note for this device you don't need to transcode your disks using hand brake. If they are backed up to a MKV container they will playback directly with absolute no loss of quality.

Thanks for checking. The files in question all play fine from the NAS to XMBC on my ATV2, and pass thru the DTS just fine. It's only an issue on the S390 for some odd reason...
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post #2284 of 3464
12/3/12 at 9:42pm
Oh, and yes on the MKV files... I've been recompressing for iPad:)
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post #2285 of 3464
12/3/12 at 10:16pm
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Originally Posted by MPGjon View Post

Thanks for checking. The files in question all play fine from the NAS to XMBC on my ATV2, and pass thru the DTS just fine. It's only an issue on the S390 for some odd reason...

Did a bit more digging and examining what I have (that is working), and what you provided that didn't.

I use Media Inspector (on the Mac), to find out more about the files in question:

My handbrake X264 encode has two audio files (AAC Stereo and a Dolby Digital 5.1 track).

So my conclusion is that if you change your settings in handbrake so that you create a DD5.1 rather than DTS, that probably will fix the problem. Probably not what you want to hear, but like I said, if you really want to enjoy the best quality, avoid handbrake and create a simple MKV container.

Your File not working:

General
Complete name : /Volumes/MKV Media 2/MKV 2/xxxx-1 - test segment.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 298 MiB
Duration : 8mn 3s
Overall bit rate : 5 176 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:31:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:36:13
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071700

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 8mn 3s
Duration_LastFrame : 2mn 5s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 500 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 13.387 fps
Maximum frame rate : 111.111 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.216
Stream size : 202 MiB (68%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:31:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:36:13
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 8mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 190 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 9.21 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:31:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:36:12

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : ES
Codec ID : A9
Duration : 8mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 7 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 86.9 MiB (29%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:31:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:36:12

Text
ID : 4
Format : Apple text
Codec ID : text
Duration : 8mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 bps
Stream size : 46.0 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:31:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-04 01:36:13

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My file that works fine:

General
Complete name : /Media/iTunes/ABCTEST.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 1.73 GiB
Duration : 1h 15mn
Overall bit rate : 3 274 Kbps
Part/Position : 1
Part/Total : 1
Track name/Position : 1
Track name/Total : 1
Recorded date : 2007
Encoded date : UTC 2010-08-02 05:56:04
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-01 05:34:29
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.4 2009112300
tven : SE
pcst : 0
hdvd : 0
stik : 6
rtng : 0
akID : 0
sfID : 0
atID : 0
plID : 0
geID : 0
iTunMOVI : / / / / cast / / codirectors / / directors / / producers / / screenwriters / / /

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 230 Kbps
Width : 700 pixels
Height : 412 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Minimum frame rate : 12.498 fps
Maximum frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.309
Stream size : 1.18 GiB (68%)
Writing library : x264 core 79 r1347 5ddd61b
Encoding settings : cabac=0 / ref=2 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=0 / wpredp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.2 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2010-08-02 05:56:04
Tagged date : UTC 2010-08-02 07:08:34
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 271 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 403 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 147 MiB (8%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-08-02 05:56:04
Tagged date : UTC 2010-09-14 11:28:30

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 208 MiB (12%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-08-02 05:56:04
Tagged date : UTC 2010-08-02 07:08:34

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 208 MiB (12%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-08-02 05:56:04
Tagged date : UTC 2010-08-02 07:08:34

Text
ID : 6
Format : Apple text
Codec ID : text
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 bps
Stream size : 408 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-01 05:34:29
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-01 05:34:29

Menu
00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
00:01:10.760 : Chapter 2
00:05:05.000 : Chapter 3
00:09:55.880 : Chapter 4
00:14:29.000 : Chapter 5
00:18:34.760 : Chapter 6
00:23:16.520 : Chapter 7
00:29:18.440 : Chapter 8
00:34:52.520 : Chapter 9
00:39:46.280 : Chapter 10
00:45:19.400 : Chapter 11
00:49:49.160 : Chapter 12
00:54:10.280 : Chapter 13
00:58:12.200 : Chapter 14
01:02:30.920 : Chapter 15
01:07:00.680 : Chapter 16
01:11:52.520 : Chapter 17
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post #2286 of 3464
12/4/12 at 4:42am
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. What do you mean, "confirmed with the user manually" ?

The user manual sorry, typo, at the end there is a supported format table and H.264 is not supported over DNLA, I even contacted tech support and they confirmed it. Again this is if you are not using transcoding, if you are you can use the bravia profile for more supported formats.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS590_BX59.pdf

Page 39
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post #2287 of 3464
12/4/12 at 4:47am
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

So, I must be watching my imagination then.
H.264 streams just fine. I can even stream the full-bitrate BD rip with HD audio intact without problem. I actually used this method to watch a few BDs to avoid the annoying forced commercials at the begining of each discs.
The problem is not at the player side. Its your DLNA server side.
The only problem with streaming is the occasional lock up of the player. The firmware is just not stable enough. The biggest advantage of streaming is there is no Cinavia detection on streaming at all.

Yeah, I am not sure, the only way I could get it to work was to use playOn with transcoding enabled. I will get the video info and post it just to confirm I am not missing something. The user manual on page 39 clearly says its not supported though so not sure.
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post #2288 of 3464
12/4/12 at 5:06am
ok here is the media info file, might have something to do with it showing as AVC? Gspot was showing it just as h.264

General
Complete name VID_20120129_125033.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 11.4 MiB
Duration : 43s 423ms
Overall bit rate : 2 212 Kbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : H264
Duration : 43s 118ms
Bit rate : 2 020 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.073
Stream size : 10.4 MiB (91%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 43s 423ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1 018 KiB (9%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 33 ms (0.99 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 336 ms
Writing library : LAMELAME_M@ˆ‘¤èЂ
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post #2289 of 3464
12/4/12 at 5:21am
Avc and h.264 are the same thing. You never posted anything on your pc side. What platform and what are used for DLNA serving?

The only thing in your file that I not sure about is MP3 audio. I have tested, HTS-HD, DTS, AC3, AAC and even DD+. Never tested mp3 audio track.
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post #2290 of 3464
12/4/12 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by GEOgamer View Post

How to do it? Fromthe menu ? Do you think this is the problem?
Second question: Do you think its better keep standalone player over Home theater in a box ?
Is s590 best back for our $100 ? Or there are bertter ones too?

1) A couple of people have addressed the setting but it's in the audio settings - DRC - Auto is default. I'd suggest turning it off and see if that sounds better. If for some reason it was set to off already, turn it on and listen but changing volumes from really quiet to loud on my old tv using a version of DRC drove me nuts and when I turned it off everything sounded ok which is the opposite I'd expect. Content I'm sure has a great deal to do with this but maybe it is over-adjusting the volumes rather than leveling them off.

2) I personally think the standalone is more robust but a $100 standalone is not near the quality of the higher end players so it's too close to call really imo. I bought the s590 just a month ago after reading several reviews and just wanting to go with a familiar interface with the Sony for around a hundred bucks and wanting the networked features. Panasonic had the top scores at the time I checked but even that player had some negative points by reviewers so I felt it was really a 1a and 1b choice between the two. I have found the player just fine except for two things; 1) the crappy fisher price toy remote that actually flexed when you press a button and 2) the disc will not auto-resume at the last point you were watching but goes back to the top menu and then gives you the choice to resume when you hit play. I don't like going through that whole intro sequence again after I've started a movie but maybe they will fix that with a software update.
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post #2291 of 3464
12/4/12 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

So my conclusion is that if you change your settings in handbrake so that you create a DD5.1 rather than DTS, that probably will fix the problem. Probably not what you want to hear, but like I said, if you really want to enjoy the best quality, avoid handbrake and create a simple MKV container.

@MPGjon ... some things to be aware of when using the Sony BDP as a DLNA renderer.

If you use an MKV container, you *may* be limited to lossy audio codecs (i.e. Dolby AC-3 and DTS "core") and will only be able to play back h.264 video. If you are converting Blu-rays, you will want to support VC-1 video and lossless codecs (i.e. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA/HD). The only container that will do that without conversion or transcoding on the Sony is M2TS.

I used to have notes on what worked and what didn't with MKV and Sony BD players, but I can't find them... however, I have a large collection of M4V files encoded for Apple TV (at various resolutions for SD and HD content, similar in format to what apw2607 describes above); encoded by Handbrake and they play well on the S590 w/o transcoding via Serviio (again, making sure you use the Sony Bravia TV 2012 - US profile).

M2TS is universal and will playback re-muxed video and audio, without conversion, on just about anything that spins optical plastic - because that functionality is needed to support actual Blu-rays. This works well with Serviio, supports FF/RW/Pause and allows you to disable transcoding, which means it will stream smoothly on a wired network. Oh yeah, and they look like the original.

If you need to support multiple audio tracks, soft subtitles (i.e. not burned into the video frames), want chapter markers or are worried about the size of the video, then MKV is a great choice as a universal container, but you will need to re-encode the video in many cases, depending on your requirements. Handbrake is a fantastic tool and, in my experience, is the only tool that consistently produces great results (i.e. good PQ and no audio/video sync issues). Handbrake will pass-thru AC-3 and DTS (even the HD versions), but you need to test these on your player. Make sure you use the Sony Bravia TV 2012 profile w/ Serviio and disable transcoding.
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post #2292 of 3464
12/4/12 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Avc and h.264 are the same thing. You never posted anything on your pc side. What platform and what are used for DLNA serving?
The only thing in your file that I not sure about is MP3 audio. I have tested, HTS-HD, DTS, AC3, AAC and even DD+. Never tested mp3 audio track.

im not using a PC, I am using a Western Digital MyBook World Edition II (blue ring) Running Twonky MS 7.
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post #2293 of 3464
12/4/12 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by ASR6491 View Post

im not using a PC, I am using a Western Digital MyBook World Edition II (blue ring) Running Twonky MS 7.

If you are running Twonky on a WD MyBook, you can forget about any kind of transcoding - I use a MyBook Live w/ Twonky 7.0.9-Special to serve music, but there simply isn't enough CPU and HDD I/O on that device to manage video transcoding.

So, you first need to find a file format that works w/o transcoding by placing them on a USB stick and plugging into the Sony BDP (see my previous, lengthy post on this topic). Then, place those same files onto your WD MyBook and disable transcoding on the embedded Twonky media server and you should be all set. I know all of this is a headache, but despite what others will tell you on this forum, the Sony BDP is not a very accommodating DLNA streamer, which it too bad because the video playback quality is excellent.
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post #2294 of 3464
12/4/12 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by CFByrne View Post


Next issue a bit more minor... the Netflix screens are "too big" for my video display...
I am only seeing what appears to be maybe 75% of the menus etc, the rest is "off screen" on my 47" Vizio.
I am using HDMI with all the default settings on the Sony for "Display".

Here is what this problem looks like (screen shots)....

http://community.sony.com/t5/Blu-Ray-Netflix-Streaming-Online/Netflix-Home-Screen-quot-Too-Big-quot-for-TV-Screen-Goes-Off/m-p/42829
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post #2295 of 3464
12/4/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by CFByrne View Post

Here is what this problem looks like (screen shots)....
http://community.sony.com/t5/Blu-Ray-Netflix-Streaming-Online/Netflix-Home-Screen-quot-Too-Big-quot-for-TV-Screen-Goes-Off/m-p/42829

If you're referring to that little sliver of a thumbnail on the left side of the UI, that's what it's supposed to look like. It looks that way on my PS3 and my Panasonic BDT220. You can see a picture of it running on the Boxee Box here and on the PS3 here (not the latest but close). They're just trying to indicate that there're titles that you can scroll into in that direction.
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post #2296 of 3464
12/5/12 at 2:39am
I just bought a Sony BDP-S590 and it's been driving me absolutely nuts. I can't for the life of me get it to connect to my PC so I can stream my files from my PC to my player. I called Sony and they weren't able to help me and I'm probably going to call my internet provider to see if they can help if I can't find the solution here. I've tried turning off my firewall, my anti-virus, media stream is turned on and allowed, and still nothing works. The oddest thing is whenever I log into my account for my router, I force update it, and that gets it working. I've done that twice and it's worked every time but it eventually stops working either because its a temporary fix or because I turn my anti virus and firewall back on. The router is from Verizon FiOS and has a WPA2 key, if that matters. I don't know what to do anymore. Please help!
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post #2297 of 3464
12/5/12 at 7:53am
has anyone bought Finding Nemo on blu-ray? I'm comparing my blu-ray disc and the dvd i bought several years ago. So far I don't see a large number of differences of video quality between the two.

I'm watching on the 590 connected to a 42" panasonic plasma.

Both sources look great! Has anyone here observed any major differences in quality?

I know with some titles, the blu-ray and DVD release, don't have a lot of differences.
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post #2298 of 3464
12/5/12 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

If you are running Twonky on a WD MyBook, you can forget about any kind of transcoding - I use a MyBook Live w/ Twonky 7.0.9-Special to serve music, but there simply isn't enough CPU and HDD I/O on that device to manage video transcoding.
So, you first need to find a file format that works w/o transcoding by placing them on a USB stick and plugging into the Sony BDP (see my previous, lengthy post on this topic). Then, place those same files onto your WD MyBook and disable transcoding on the embedded Twonky media server and you should be all set. I know all of this is a headache, but despite what others will tell you on this forum, the Sony BDP is not a very accommodating DLNA streamer, which it too bad because the video playback quality is excellent.

Yes that is what I was trying to say to begin with lol. You need some sort of transcoding to play a lot more file formats as the player does not support many formats via native DNLA playback, although all advertised work fine over USB. One file that works on USB does not work on DNLA (or atleast not gauranteed according to the manual). I wound up re-encoding in xvid and got a smaller file size and better quality using AVS encoder instead of anyvideoconvertor.
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post #2299 of 3464
12/5/12 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by ASR6491 View Post

Yes that is what I was trying to say to begin with lol. You need some sort of transcoding to play a lot more file formats as the player does not support many formats via native DNLA playback, although all advertised work fine over USB. One file that works on USB does not work on DNLA (or atleast not gauranteed according to the manual). I wound up re-encoding in xvid and got a smaller file size and better quality using AVS encoder instead of anyvideoconvertor.

No, you get it backwards. The DLNA server has a lot to do with it. I used my PC w/ Win7 and installed some codecs (DIVX MF) so that I can stream MKV. I can stream full-bitrate BD rip mkv files straight from MakeMKV without any problem or transcoding (my PC CPU usage is <1%). I found most of those standalone NAS box stream is quite useless (I have one on my router). What you experienced is a POS DLNA server. That's it.
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post #2300 of 3464
12/5/12 at 12:46pm
So I just recently picked up the Sony s590 as a streamer replacement for my first-generation Roku player (wanted something to take advantage of Netflix 1080p/5.1/captions streams and Vudu) and an update-able Blu-ray player to replace my old two-year-old Samsung c6500, whose ethernet connection seems to have broken and which is nearly impossible to connect wirelessly. The Samsung still works fine for DVD/BR, but I'm worried that, eventually, if I don't update the firmware, it's not going to play all discs.

First impressions of the s590 are mixed. Not crazy about the interfaces as compared to the Roku (hard to read/navigate Amazon, Hulu+, etc.), and the DVD upscaling, while competent, doesn't quite match the old Samsung. Not inferior enough to be a deal-killer, but a noticeably more washed out picture compared to the Samsung. Have also had a few weird issues with the quality of streaming from Hulu+, something I've never had an issue with on the Roku, but the issues are not easily repeatable, so I'll just hope they were flukes.

My biggest issue, however, is with judder. The Netflix streams have the worse judder I've seen. Some panning shots are almost unwatchable. Even my non-videophile wife immediately noticed the judder on the opening tracking shot in Hugo. Watching Hugo from Amazon has no judder whatsoever. The "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" panning shot at four minutes in also displayed the worst judder I've seen, compared to the Samsung and the Roku.

Any thoughts as to whether this is correctable within my system, or is it inherent in Netflix? I have the Sony connected through my Denon AVR-2809ci to my Panasonic TH-50PZ85U. I've messed around with what setting I could (output resolution, 24p output, etc.) and haven't been able to overcome the issue.

Should I try a different player, or is it an issue on all Netflix streamers?
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post #2301 of 3464
12/5/12 at 12:48pm
I should add that I am connected to the internet through ethernet, and have very fast download speeds (Amazon streaming shows download speeds between 18mbps and 21mbps). More than enough to stream Netflix in 1080p, I would think...
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post #2302 of 3464
12/5/12 at 10:08pm
Was thinking about buying the S590 but i remembered my sony str-dg910 receiver from 2007 only has hdmi 1.2. I heard you need a receiver that supports hdmi 1.4 for bluray 3d, is this correct?
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post #2303 of 3464
12/6/12 at 12:16am
Regarding the playback of files from USD attached storage:

When it says:

– up to folders in the 9th layer, including the
root folder
– up to 500 files/folders in a single layer

...does that mean there is no overall limit to the number of files you can have on the drive as long as you split them into separate folders of 500.

ie. is there any limit to the number of 500 file folders I can put on the root of the drive?
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post #2304 of 3464
12/6/12 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by morpheus305 View Post

Was thinking about buying the S590 but i remembered my sony str-dg910 receiver from 2007 only has hdmi 1.2. I heard you need a receiver that supports hdmi 1.4 for bluray 3d, is this correct?

Yes, if you want to use 3d and lossless audio. Work arounds are to use optical or coaxial outputs to feed audio to your receiver + connect HDMI directly to the TV or buy a higher end player with two HDMI ports so that one can feed the AVR and the other can connect directly to your TV.
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post #2305 of 3464
12/6/12 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by AliMusa View Post

I just bought a Sony BDP-S590 and it's been driving me absolutely nuts. I can't for the life of me get it to connect to my PC so I can stream my files from my PC to my player. I called Sony and they weren't able to help me and I'm probably going to call my internet provider to see if they can help if I can't find the solution here. I've tried turning off my firewall, my anti-virus, media stream is turned on and allowed, and still nothing works. The oddest thing is whenever I log into my account for my router, I force update it, and that gets it working. I've done that twice and it's worked every time but it eventually stops working either because its a temporary fix or because I turn my anti virus and firewall back on. The router is from Verizon FiOS and has a WPA2 key, if that matters. I don't know what to do anymore. Please help!

I have the similar BDP-S390 and it streams well from my Win7-PC using the Windows DLNA server and Serviio. It also works with my NAS running Twonky. What you describe sounds like a networking issue. Most likely your router is the problem. If possible, exchange the router with a completely different model and see if that works. You might even have to try multiple, different (!!) brands.

In the beginning I had a networking issues as well but only with Internet radio and a certain device, not all of them. After hours of searching I found my router's firmware was the culprit. I replaced it with Tomato and voila! everything works perfectly now.

Phone support is especially useless in these situations. You need to isolate the problem step by step while reducing the complexity of your network setup.

I hope this helps!
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post #2306 of 3464
12/6/12 at 2:40pm
Hi All

I have a curious issue with my S590. When I popped in a DVD that has CC, even after I turned on the CC on my Sony HX850 but I didn't see any subtitles on the screen. Now this DVD has subtitles on it but no menu selection to turn them on but should show up if the TV subtitles are on. When I played it on my regular DVD player, the subtitles came on. Anyone have any suggestions on what may be occuring?

cheers
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post #2307 of 3464
12/6/12 at 5:47pm
Recently purchased the S590...one question I had, a boring one, revolves around the remote. How do you program the remote to control your TV with the two functions near the top and volume? I have a Samsung LED TV.
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post #2308 of 3464
12/6/12 at 6:04pm
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Hi All
I have a curious issue with my S590. When I popped in a DVD that has CC, even after I turned on the CC on my Sony HX850 but I didn't see any subtitles on the screen. Now this DVD has subtitles on it but no menu selection to turn them on but should show up if the TV subtitles are on. When I played it on my regular DVD player, the subtitles came on. Anyone have any suggestions on what may be occuring?
cheers

Your S590 remote should have a subtitle button on it. Use that. It has nothing to do with CC on your TV. Subtitle is controlled and displayed by the player on to the regular video.
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post #2309 of 3464
12/6/12 at 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by eriddler View Post

Recently purchased the S590...one question I had, a boring one, revolves around the remote. How do you program the remote to control your TV with the two functions near the top and volume? I have a Samsung LED TV.

It's in the manual.
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post #2310 of 3464
12/6/12 at 7:06pm
Does the US model of the Sony BDP-S590 support .avi files on USB / disc?

I downloaded the pdf manual from the Sony site and it states it supports Xvid avi, but when I read reviews, some people mention avi is not playable. I am an owner of a Sony BDP-S370 and avi is not supported in the US model, but it is in the Canada and Europe models.

I was looking to upgrade to the 590 and was hoping it does support avi.
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