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post #2581 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

So, I asked the folks at Serviio about this and here's their reply:
To which I replied:
To which Serviio replied:
This matches my experience with MKV and subtitles; however, as I stated earlier, if something has changed or there is an approach that works better than what the folks at Serviio are aware of, please do tell.

Haven't heard back from you on this topic, but here's another recent development. As I've said, I never had any issues with FF/RW and embedded subtitle support when streaming MKVs containing H.264 video with DTS or AC3 audio and MKVToolnix-embedded SRT subtitles and using Sony Bravia TV 2012 US profile in Serviio. However, I noticed that I've lost FF/RW capability in any MKV that I have recently remuxed to embed subtitles. After a lot of snooping around with MediaInfo, the only difference I could find was that FF/RW was lost only in MKVs remuxed with the most recent version of mkvmerge, which is v5.9.0. I downgraded back to v5.8.0, re-remuxed the problematic MKVs and got FF/RW back. I wish I could get to the root of the problem and gain back the ability to update MKVToolnix, but this is a workable interim solution for anybody who has similar issues.

EDIT: Apparently, MKVToolNix5.9.0 writes two new elements that are not recognized by the BDP. Using the '--engage no_cue_duration,no_cue_relative_position' MKVToolNix command line option suppresses the writing of these elements and allows the BDP to seek within MKVs remuxed with 5.9.0 again.
Edited by Kisakuku - 1/7/13 at 9:04am
post #2582 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Rudy1 View Post

Turn off the TV's speakers & connect it (either via Toslink or RCA stereo audio cables) to your Yamaha AVR. You won't have access to Dolby Digital Plus or DTS-HD Master Audio tracks but you will hear multichannel Dolby Digital and DTS audio from movies played on the S590. In the S590's audio menu, set BD AUDIO MIX SETTING to OFF, and DOLBY DIGITAL to BITSTREAM. In your AVR's menu system, you should be able to configure the input settings accordingly for each device (TV, BDP, etc.). Before I bought AVRs with HDMI inputs, I had my gear hooked up this way and it worked perfectly...especially since I used a Harmony universal remote to control all of the components. wink.gif
Okay I will give that a try... Thanks!!
post #2583 of 3991
I just picked up an S-390 and am having what I think is a sound issue. I'm using an HDMI cable to attach it my my TV and then an optical cable from the TV to my receiver for digital sound. It's an older Sony receiver (Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1) without HDMI inputs or outputs. I have the S-390 set up as suggested on here, but I'm not getting digital sound to my receiver. The receiver doesn't show Digital 3/2 or have the signal light come on. The only way to get digital sound in the receiver is to use the coax cable (S-390 straight to the receiver). I'm asking if there is an issue here as I also have an Apple TV hooked up via HDMI to the TV and I get a digital signal from it to my receiver (via the TV's optical cable) where I can't from the Sony. Any input would be appreciated as I'm kinda frustrated that I need an extra cable to get digital sound and I have to change the input on my receiver. And if it matters, I only am playing DVDs...no Blu Rays as of yet.
Edited by Vegaspilot - 1/7/13 at 12:05am
post #2584 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

EDIT: Apparently, MKVToolNix5.9.0 writes two new elements that are not recognized by the BDP. Using the '--engage no_cue_duration,no_cue_relative_position' command line option fixes this issue and allows the BDP to seek within MKVs remuxed with 5.9.0 again.

That's an awesome find and something that you may want to post to the folks on the Serviio forum. I sort of threw in the towel on MKVs, however, after failing to find a combination of settings that would work for me. I wasted way too much time on this :-)

For my DVD/BD collection, I am back to M4V w/ Handbrake - I can easily add multiple audio and subtitle tracks, chapter markers and film meta data - everything just works w/ my Apple TV. I do miss the HD audio, but Handbrake will encode HD audio as 640 kbps AC-3 which is good enough for most content, IMO.

For critical viewing/listening (i.e. 24fps and HD audio), I have abandoned S590 in favor of a Pioneer BDP-62FD w/ a Qdeo scaler.

For discs in my collection that I re-watch a lot, I remux BDs to M2TS and DVDs to a single VOB file - no compression, but I have plenty of disk and the Qdeo does wonders with the DVD VOBs on playback. The Pioneer will accept the streamed content described above from Serviio w/o transcoding the audio or video, supports FF/RW (really well w/ Serviio 1.1), and even plays back 24fps content at 24fps.

I drive the whole thing with an Android tablet (Nexus 7) running the Pioneer Control app and a DLNA control point app called BubbleUPnP that lets me browse by movie poster or whatever meta data you expose from Serviio.

FWIW, you could do all of the above with the Sony S590 (I've tried the M2TS playback, but I assume the VOBs will work, as well) and someone on the Pioneer -62FD thread states convincingly that the Sony S790 works as well as the -62FD for half the cost.

Edit: oh, I meant all of the above *except* 24fps with streamed content - I always see 1080p60 w/ streamed content on the Sony player.
post #2585 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

That's an awesome find and something that you may want to post to the folks on the Serviio forum. I sort of threw in the towel on MKVs, however, after failing to find a combination of settings that would work for me. I wasted way too much time on this :-)
For my DVD/BD collection, I am back to M4V w/ Handbrake - I can easily add multiple audio and subtitle tracks, chapter markers and film meta data - everything just works w/ my Apple TV. I do miss the HD audio, but Handbrake will encode HD audio as 640 kbps AC-3 which is good enough for most content, IMO.
For critical viewing/listening (i.e. 24fps and HD audio), I have abandoned S590 in favor of a Pioneer BDP-62FD w/ a Qdeo scaler.
For discs in my collection that I re-watch a lot, I remux BDs to M2TS and DVDs to a single VOB file - no compression, but I have plenty of disk and the Qdeo does wonders with the DVD VOBs on playback. The Pioneer will accept the streamed content described above from Serviio w/o transcoding the audio or video, supports FF/RW (really well w/ Serviio 1.1), and even plays back 24fps content at 24fps.
I drive the whole thing with an Android tablet (Nexus 7) running the Pioneer Control app and a DLNA control point app called BubbleUPnP that lets me browse by movie poster or whatever meta data you expose from Serviio.
FWIW, you could do all of the above with the Sony S590 (I've tried the M2TS playback, but I assume the VOBs will work, as well) and someone on the Pioneer -62FD thread states convincingly that the Sony S790 works as well as the -62FD for half the cost.
Edit: oh, I meant all of the above *except* 24fps with streamed content - I always see 1080p60 w/ streamed content on the Sony player.

I really appreciate the write-up, gives me some ideas on where to go with my setup. S590's inability to stream 24fps content has been bothering me as well.

Also, I might have been unclear in my previous post. The command line arguments are for remuxing with MKVToolNix, not for Serviio, so I'm not sure what the point of posting this work-around on the Serviio forum is.
post #2586 of 3991
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Few people asked about new 2013 players. Sony just announced some details at CES.

New players for 2013 will be BDP-S5100, BDP-S3100 and BDP-S1100. Specifics are a bit sketchy right now but in time more details will become available. The BDP-S5100 and S3100 will be compatible with Sony new tablet app called "SideView", a 2nd screen app.

BDP-S5100:



Press Release:



SONY TAKES A NEW ANGLE ON THE TOTAL HOME ENTERTAINMENT EXPERIENCE
Innovative and Stylish New 3D and Wi-Fi-enabled Blu-ray Disc/DVD Players Deliver the Perfect Combination of Form and Function

Inventive Designs Move Blu-Ray DiscTM Player to the Top of the Stack
Sony is adding three new models to its acclaimed line of Blu-ray Disc players: the BDP-S1100, BDP-S3100 and BDP-S5100. Each model is Internet-connected and packed with apps, and offers stunning performance when playing back Blu-ray Discs or DVDs thanks to a fully encased optical drive and powerful image processors. The S3100 and S5100 players are also equipped with improved Wi-Fi capability offering a stronger signal and excellent range. In addition to giving consumers more entertainment choices than ever before, the new Blu-ray Disc players also incorporate Sony's striking new premium design.
"Consumers have so many choices at retail and these new players were designed to make a striking first impression the minute you walk into a store," said Yamato Tanikawa, director of product management, Sony Electronics. "'Premium' is the best way to describe these new models, with their stylish quartz design and high end performance. They are the perfect example of form following function, delivering all the features consumers want for home entertainment and creating a striking focal point of the living room."

Entertainment Choices: Blu-ray discs, DVDs and Streaming Services Enhance the Experience
The S5100 player is also Blu-ray 3DTM playback-capable, so consumers can choose to enjoy videos from nearly any media. All three new models offer access to more than 100 online apps and content services, including Sony Entertainment Network's Video Unlimited and Music Unlimited, as well as the most popular entertainment options from Netflix®, Pandora®, HuluPlusTM, Amazon Video on Demand, YouTube®, Slacker® Internet Radio, Crackle and many more. The BDP-S1100 player is compatible with the most services of any entry Blu-ray Disc Player on the market.

The newest addition to Sony Entertainment Network is a Fitness and Wellness channel, offering a variety of interactive nutrition, healthy cooking and workout services.

Innovative Engineering with a "Touch" of High Performance

The new Sony Blu-ray Disc home theater systems (available this Spring) feature One-touch, Near Field Communication (NFC) technology too. NFC promises to offer unprecedented interconnectivity across much of the Sony home ecosystem. By simply touching an NFC-enabled mobile phone or tablet to the player, users can automatically connect and play music from that mobile device while controlling the entertainment experience across multiple screens. All new Blu-ray disc home theater systems as well as the BDP-S5100 and BDP-S3100 players are compatible with the TV SideView universal remote control app for Android and iOS devices. The app also allows consumers to play personal videos, pictures, and music on their TV via the Blu-ray disc player, simply by "throwing" the content from their tablet or smart phone.

Update:

BDP-S5100:

3D Blu-ray Disc Player with Wi-Fi

Highlights:
  • Premium design and built-in Wi-Fi with superior range and strength
  • 100+ streaming apps: Netflix, Hulu Plus, Pandora and more
  • Full HD 1080p Blu-ray Disc 3D playback with 2D to 3D conversion
  • "Throw" content to your TV from your tablet with TV side view
  • I/P noise reduction helps eliminate excess noise for a better viewing experience


BDP-S3100:

Blu-ray Disc Player with Wi-Fi

Highlights
  • Built-in Wi-Fi® with superior wireless range and strength
  • 100+ streaming apps: Netflix®, Hulu Plus™, Pandora® & more
  • "Throw" content to your TV from your tablet with TV side view
  • Full HD 1080p Blu-ray Disc playback & DVD upscaling
  • I/P noise reduction helps eliminate excess noise for a better viewing experience


BDP-S1100

Blu-ray Disc Player with Wi-Fi

Highlights
  • Full HD 1080p Blu-ray Disc playback & DVD upscaling
  • Over 100 streaming apps: Netflix, Hulu Plus, Pandora and more
  • Easily share your photos and videos via the front USB slot
  • Fully encased optical drive for a better quality disc playback
  • Dolby® TrueHD and dts®-HD Master Audio support

Edited by apw2607 - 1/7/13 at 6:27pm
post #2587 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

I really appreciate the write-up, gives me some ideas on where to go with my setup. S590's inability to stream 24fps content has been bothering me as well.

NP. It took me about a year to get to where I am now and I like the results, although I spent more than I had anticipated, above and beyond what I spend for content. The BD player was pricy and so was the RAID array to hold the data smile.gif
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Also, I might have been unclear in my previous post. The command line arguments are for remuxing with MKVToolNix, not for Serviio, so I'm not sure what the point of posting this work-around on the Serviio forum is.

Yep... I got that, but the Serviio forum is lit up with posting from people that are wrestling with MKVs and subtitles, albeit in many cases the issue has more to do with player support than the MKV itself. Your discovery may save people a bunch of time and headaches that attribute the problem to either Serviio or their player. Who knows... My new rule is the file has to playback natively, without transcoding of any kind, and then it becomes easier to narrow down the cause of any issues.

Thanks for your comments...
post #2588 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Few people asked about new 2013 players. Sony just announced some details at CES.

Interesting that they seem to only include 3D BD capability in the top of the line model this year.
post #2589 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

Yep... I got that, but the Serviio forum is lit up with posting from people that are wrestling with MKVs and subtitles, albeit in many cases the issue has more to do with player support than the MKV itself. Your discovery may save people a bunch of time and headaches that attribute the problem to either Serviio or their player. Who knows... My new rule is the file has to playback natively, without transcoding of any kind, and then it becomes easier to narrow down the cause of any issues.
Thanks for your comments...

Makes sense, I'll post over there too. Agree about transcoding, pretty much always have it disabled.
post #2590 of 3991
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Interesting that they seem to only include 3D BD capability in the top of the line model this year.

Yes. Seems 4k has being removed from the top line player too. I suspect that's because its somewhat redundant as there's normally good scalers in the 4k display devices themselves.
post #2591 of 3991

anyone know if the 590 can play 5.1 flacs? i tried via DLNA (ps3mediaserver) but no luck.

post #2592 of 3991
I just bought the Sony BX18 from Costco and now thinking if I should get the BX59 instead ... there is only $20 difference. Advice please if there is any advantage.. note that I dont have any 3D TV neither planning to get one this year.

Also if anyone interested in buying Costco has these players for sale:

Sony BX59 (S590 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $79.99 plus Tax (Tax will be chagred for actual value $119.99)
Sony BX18 (S390 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $64.99 plus Tax (Tax will be charged for actual value $89.99)
post #2593 of 3991
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Originally Posted by HDMI Guy View Post

I just set up my 390 for Netflix. The netflix selection screen is stretched off the screen on the left and looks enlarged compared to my Sony BDP-570. Do I have a setting messed up or is this the normal appearance on the 390?
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post


Hmm, I didn't notice any issues on the S390. Are you sure you don't have some odd screen setting set on your display/TV ?


THis is what Neflix looks like on my S590 ... but it looks identical to the S390 (when I had it).
LL

Hi - just picked up a S590 to take advantage of Netflix 1080p/5.1 and ran into this "issue" as well. I too have a BDP-570 and greatly prefer that Netflix interface, which is more neatly organized and makes far better use of the Options button IMO for browsing and searching. The 390/590 interface is like "Netflix for the visually-impared" with no disrespect meant to people who are visually impaired and might benefit from the much larger thumbnails.

I can certainly live with this interface, especially with the upgrade to both audio and video quality, but man it would be sweet to combine that with the superior UI from the previous gen Sony BDPs. The optimal solution would be to have the option of using the "classic" display or the newer enlarged display, but not sure if that's possible.

I was reading a PS3 forum on another web site and the consensus seemed to be that this is an issue that Netflix would have to fix, not Sony. Is that correct? I'm also assuming, since these BDPs have been out for a while now, that folks have complained; to Sony, Netflix or both. Can anyone fill me in on what the response was to the complaints or the current status? I'd like to share my opinion with either or both.

Other than that, this player is great, as is my 570, which has now replaced the Samsung BDP in my bedroom.

Thanks! smile.gif
post #2594 of 3991
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Originally Posted by astrogeeker View Post

anyone know if the 590 can play 5.1 flacs? i tried via DLNA (ps3mediaserver) but no luck.

S590 has no native FLAC support. You can transcode to LPCM 2.0 for streaming via DLNA.
post #2595 of 3991
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Hi - just picked up a S590 to take advantage of Netflix 1080p/5.1 and ran into this "issue" as well. I too have a BDP-570 and greatly prefer that Netflix interface, which is more neatly organized and makes far better use of the Options button IMO for browsing and searching. The 390/590 interface is like "Netflix for the visually-impared" with no disrespect meant to people who are visually impaired and might benefit from the much larger thumbnails.
I can certainly live with this interface, especially with the upgrade to both audio and video quality, but man it would be sweet to combine that with the superior UI from the previous gen Sony BDPs. The optimal solution would be to have the option of using the "classic" display or the newer enlarged display, but not sure if that's possible.
I was reading a PS3 forum on another web site and the consensus seemed to be that this is an issue that Netflix would have to fix, not Sony. Is that correct? I'm also assuming, since these BDPs have been out for a while now, that folks have complained; to Sony, Netflix or both. Can anyone fill me in on what the response was to the complaints or the current status? I'd like to share my opinion with either or both.
Other than that, this player is great, as is my 570, which has now replaced the Samsung BDP in my bedroom.
Thanks! smile.gif

You're in the minority. The overall consensus was that Sony's older Netflix implementation sucked with small low resolution crappy artwork.

The new interface is Netflix own and is standard across most newer players. You'll have to live with it or get a older bdp x70 or x80 player.
post #2596 of 3991
how come no one is interested in discussing Youtube HD playback issue on S590, or it is a dead issue that it cannot do it at all. I posted the question a few days ago did not get any response. i saw a few old posts, same thing, they did not generate any discussion. Why is it that a blu-ray player cannot stream HD content from Youtube when they are available?
post #2597 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

You're in the minority. The overall consensus was that Sony's older Netflix implementation sucked with small low resolution crappy artwork.
The new interface is Netflix own and is standard across most newer players. You'll have to live with it or get a older bdp x70 or x80 player.

Wow, a bit surprised that more people would prefer such a clumsy UI. Who other than the visually-impaired gives a hoot about the size and/or quality of the "artwork?" After all, it's not the artwork you're there to watch, it's the content associated with the artwork! rolleyes.gif

What's more important, at least to me are A) ease of use - so you can quickly and easily find the content you want and B) the quality of the programming itself. On the latter count, Netflix scores big (possibly bad news for VUDU?). On the former, it's an epic fail by Netflix IMHO.

As I said previously, I already have a perfectly good 570, which unfortunately doesn't and will never support the Netflix 1080p/DD content. That's why I got the new player in the first place.

And as I also said, I can live with it. But it would be good to have a choice of UIs. Just sayin'

Thanks for the reply. I will send my thoughts along to Netflix. Not expecting any changes if I'm in the minority, but as a paying subscriber, I'd still like my voice to be heard by them.

OK, down from my soapbox and back to work! smile.gif
post #2598 of 3991
Has anybody else had trouble playing the Tamara Drewe blu-ray in the Sony BDP-S590? I have trouble with the disc menus (audio and special features), the player just quits responding and I have to shut it down. My BDP-S590 is a week old and has the latest firmware available (version M12.R.0430) and hasn't had any problems with other blu-rays. My Tamara Drewe disc is spotless and doesn't have any scratches and I've successfully tried out the disc and menus on a LG BD530 and an old Sharp BD-HP21U, no problems.

I've tried with BD-Live enabled, and BD-Live disabled, I've erased the data on the 1gb flash drive and still have problems with this disc.on the BDP-S590. Tamara Drewe is a Sony Pictures Classic blu-ray released in February 2011, so I really am surprised I'm having trouble with it in a Sony player.
post #2599 of 3991
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Wow, a bit surprised that more people would prefer such a clumsy UI. Who other than the visually-impaired gives a hoot about the size and/or quality of the "artwork?" After all, it's not the artwork you're there to watch, it's the content associated with the artwork! rolleyes.gif
What's more important, at least to me are A) ease of use - so you can quickly and easily find the content you want and B) the quality of the programming itself. On the latter count, Netflix scores big (possibly bad news for VUDU?). On the former, it's an epic fail by Netflix IMHO.
As I said previously, I already have a perfectly good 570, which unfortunately doesn't and will never support the Netflix 1080p/DD content. That's why I got the new player in the first place.
And as I also said, I can live with it. But it would be good to have a choice of UIs. Just sayin'
Thanks for the reply. I will send my thoughts along to Netflix. Not expecting any changes if I'm in the minority, but as a paying subscriber, I'd still like my voice to be heard by them.
OK, down from my soapbox and back to work! smile.gif

Like you say the new interface supports 1080p with dolby digital plus. I think that's most important for the majority of people.

If you are looking for the best netflix UI experience buy a Apple TV ! Best for search and discovery. Supports 1080p streams but only dolby digital. Not dolby digital plus.
post #2600 of 3991
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Originally Posted by lwchen View Post

how come no one is interested in discussing Youtube HD playback issue on S590, or it is a dead issue that it cannot do it at all. I posted the question a few days ago did not get any response. i saw a few old posts, same thing, they did not generate any discussion. Why is it that a blu-ray player cannot stream HD content from Youtube when they are available?

Good question. No technical reason. ... Suspect it's a license / business reason. The new YT interface on tivo supports YT HD streams.
post #2601 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Yes. Seems 4k has being removed from the top line player too. I suspect that's because its somewhat redundant as there's normally good scalers in the 4k display devices themselves.

Ok. Turns out the 5100 isn't a replacement for the 790. Sony UK are indicating the 790 will still be available for sale and is roughly twice the price of the 5100. I will open up a new thread on the new players and we can continue the discussion there !!
post #2602 of 3991
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Originally Posted by nrq007 View Post

I just bought the Sony BX18 from Costco and now thinking if I should get the BX59 instead ... there is only $20 difference. Advice please if there is any advantage.. note that I dont have any 3D TV neither planning to get one this year.
Also if anyone interested in buying Costco has these players for sale:
Sony BX59 (S590 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $79.99 plus Tax (Tax will be chagred for actual value $119.99)
Sony BX18 (S390 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $64.99 plus Tax (Tax will be charged for actual value $89.99)

There both excellent prices !!
post #2603 of 3991
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Originally Posted by nrq007 View Post

I just bought the Sony BX18 from Costco and now thinking if I should get the BX59 instead ... there is only $20 difference. Advice please if there is any advantage.. note that I dont have any 3D TV neither planning to get one this year.
Also if anyone interested in buying Costco has these players for sale:
Sony BX59 (S590 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $79.99 plus Tax (Tax will be chagred for actual value $119.99)
Sony BX18 (S390 with HDMI Cable for Costco) for $64.99 plus Tax (Tax will be charged for actual value $89.99)

The BX18 is the BX185 Model and bottom of the line. BX39 is the 390 Model.
post #2604 of 3991
Hi - I'm experiencing occasional buffering when streaming HD content from Netflix to my new S590. Since I have enough downlink bandwidth (15 Mbps) from the Internet I'm pretty sure this is related to my 802.11g router, which is supplied by Verizon. The issue could be related to other devices in my house (laptops, iPhones, etc.) contending for bandwidth in 2.4Ghz, or it could be related to the distance between my router and the S590. I suspect that most likely both factors are playing a role.

I think having an 802.11n connection would help significantly but I can't get an 802.11n router from Verizon unless I significantly upgrade ($$$) my Internet service with them.

In that case, my best bet might be to buy an 802.11n AP ($60-$70??) and simply connect it via Ethernet to the router. Then I'm hoping the 590 would auto-connect to the 802.11n AP (is there a way to force this assuming I continue to maintain my 802.11g network?) and take advantage of the less contentious 5GHz frequency range as well as the other advantages offered by 802.11n.

My other option would be to simply run a wired Ethernet connection from my router to the den although it might be a bit tedious to snake the cable through the walls (second floor to the basement, then across the basement and back up into the den) so a wireless option is preferable. I do own a cable snake so this is not outside the realm of possibility wink.gif

I'm wondering if anyone else here has faced this issue and been able to solve it and how, and also looking to validate my thinking on this. Any thoughts? TIA!
post #2605 of 3991
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Hi - I'm experiencing occasional buffering when streaming HD content from Netflix to my new S590. Since I have enough downlink bandwidth (15 Mbps) from the Internet I'm pretty sure this is related to my 802.11g router, which is supplied by Verizon. The issue could be related to other devices in my house (laptops, iPhones, etc.) contending for bandwidth in 2.4Ghz, or it could be related to the distance between my router and the S590. I suspect that most likely both factors are playing a role.

I think having an 802.11n connection would help significantly but I can't get an 802.11n router from Verizon unless I significantly upgrade ($$$) my Internet service with them.

In that case, my best bet might be to buy an 802.11n AP ($60-$70??) and simply connect it via Ethernet to the router. Then I'm hoping the 590 would auto-connect to the 802.11n AP (is there a way to force this assuming I continue to maintain my 802.11g network?) and take advantage of the less contentious 5GHz frequency range as well as the other advantages offered by 802.11n.

My other option would be to simply run a wired Ethernet connection from my router to the den although it might be a bit tedious to snake the cable through the walls (second floor to the basement, then across the basement and back up into the den) so a wireless option is preferable. I do own a cable snake so this is not outside the realm of possibility wink.gif

I'm wondering if anyone else here has faced this issue and been able to solve it and how, and also looking to validate my thinking on this. Any thoughts? TIA!

Could try power line. More consistent that wifi.
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Could try power line. More consistent that wifi.

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that and not at all familiar with how it's implemented in the home. I think I've heard of it in commercial use cases but no clue how it works. I assume it's Ethernet-based? Could you possibly send a pointer to other information or to someone who sells the gear? Thanks!
post #2607 of 3991
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that and not at all familiar with how it's implemented in the home. I think I've heard of it in commercial use cases but no clue how it works. I assume it's Ethernet-based? Could you possibly send a pointer to other information or to someone who sells the gear? Thanks!

I second that suggestion. It works over your existing electric wiring, hence the name. Check out reviews under http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/labels/powerline. I've been very happy with my Netgear XAVB5101 and XAVB5001 adapters.
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PLEASE GOD..................HELP ME!

I know I have not been a regular at church (in fact, truth be known, I was never ever in a church unless there was a wedding or a funeral), but I get the feeling only you can help me with my problem. So I'm calling on your good graces to help me out.smile.gif
You see I spent thousands of dollars for a surround sound system, added a new a basic Panasonic Plasma TV, and bought a Sony S590 BluRay player with Web Access for the other stuff? but now when I try to watch a BluRay Movie all kinds of additional Web or (whatever) BluRay features are cluttering up the screen and are preventing me from enjoying the movie (basically at 68 I'm just an old timer ... I want to put a movie in and watch it ...... period!). Usually, with some effort I can figure out how to get back to the movie and play it, but I really am not enjoying trying to solve the "how do I get to the movie" puzzle that the various blurays appear to be presenting. (Reminds me of the Memento DVD where you had to solve a puzzle to play it. Finally, after about 1/2 hour, I went on line and got the solution and wrote it on the cover so the other Usual Suspects that hang around my place wouldn't commit suicide when they couldn't figure out how to play the movie).
The worst experience was tonight, when we tried to watch Green Zone, Somehow (after about 15 minutes of pushing buttons on the Sony Remote) I finally got to the main selection screen, but it was cluttered with numerous web and DVD options. It took me about another 15 minutes to get to where I could play the movie, as initially "play movie" was greyed out, and even then all the other screen web selections including pic within a pic were still active. After about a half an hour, of randomly pressing buttons on the remote I was able to remove most of the extranious stuff, but I was still left with 4 large icons on the R/H side of the screen that activated in and out as required throughout the movie. I'm pretty sure this was a DVD selection issue. but no matter what I tried I could not get rid of them. Pretty well ruined what appeared to me to be a decent movie.
Simple Question. I have a Sony S590, but I just want to watch a BluRay movie all the time, every time (absolutely for certain.. nothing else .... really!). Just like I was in the theater, no less, how do I do that?
Yes! Can I set it up this mot*e*f*ck*r up to do that? I still have 45 days left on the Costco NQA 90 day warranty, so if it is a BluRay player issue I would like to know. Basically for now and for all time "Me want to put movie in and watch movie ugh!, grunt!" O.K?" if I have to fast forward through upcoming previews like on the old DVDs, I can live with that, but this other sh*t is absolutely absurd!
Thanks, Dave
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

PLEASE GOD..................HELP ME!

I know I have not been a regular at church (in fact, truth be known, I was never ever in a church unless there was a wedding or a funeral), but I get the feeling only you can help me with my problem. So I'm calling on your good graces to help me out.smile.gif
You see I spent thousands of dollars for a surround sound system, added a new a basic Panasonic Plasma TV, and bought a Sony S590 BluRay player with Web Access for the other stuff? but now when I try to watch a BluRay Movie all kinds of additional Web or (whatever) BluRay features are cluttering up the screen and are preventing me from enjoying the movie (basically at 68 I'm just an old timer ... I want to put a movie in and watch it ...... period!). Usually, with some effort I can figure out how to get back to the movie and play it, but I really am not enjoying trying to solve the "how do I get to the movie" puzzle that the various blurays appear to be presenting. (Reminds me of the Memento DVD where you had to solve a puzzle to play it. Finally, after about 1/2 hour, I went on line and got the solution and wrote it on the cover so the other Usual Suspects that hang around my place wouldn't commit suicide when they couldn't figure out how to play the movie).
The worst experience was tonight, when we tried to watch Green Zone, Somehow (after about 15 minutes of pushing buttons on the Sony Remote) I finally got to the main selection screen, but it was cluttered with numerous web and DVD options. It took me about another 15 minutes to get to where I could play the movie, as initially "play movie" was greyed out, and even then all the other screen web selections including pic within a pic were still active. After about a half an hour, of randomly pressing buttons on the remote I was able to remove most of the extranious stuff, but I was still left with 4 large icons on the R/H side of the screen that activated in and out as required throughout the movie. I'm pretty sure this was a DVD selection issue. but no matter what I tried I could not get rid of them. Pretty well ruined what appeared to me to be a decent movie.
Simple Question. I have a Sony S590, but I just want to watch a BluRay movie all the time, every time (absolutely for certain.. nothing else .... really!). Just like I was in the theater, no less, how do I do that?
Yes! Can I set it up this mot*e*f*ck*r up to do that? I still have 45 days left on the Costco NQA 90 day warranty, so if it is a BluRay player issue I would like to know. Basically for now and for all time "Me want to put movie in and watch movie ugh!, grunt!" O.K?" if I have to fast forward through upcoming previews like on the old DVDs, I can live with that, but this other sh*t is absolutely absurd!
Thanks, Dave

No set-top BD player will have such a setting. BD players can be returned to Costco within couple years of purchase.
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

No set-top BD player will have such a setting. BD players can be returned to Costco within couple years of purchase.
Uh! What?
Essentially you are saying this is the horrific nightmare that comes with BluRay and Web access?
Please enlighten me. I can't, in my wildest Sci- Fi dreams, believe that is true.
You buy a product (whether Blue Ray DVD or BluRay player) and the user can't control how it functions? If we have let this happen (which I don't believe), then we all need to give our proverbial heads a shake!
Not a Happy Camper ......... Dave
P.S. In case you are picking this thread up late. I want to be able to put my BluRay Disc in my BluRay player and watch the Blue Ray Movie I paid Big Bucks for ............. end of story O.K.!? Why should that be so difficult?
Edited by stillgolfing - 1/9/13 at 8:31pm
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