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post #2611 of 3554
1/9/13 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

Uh! What?
Essentially you are saying this is the horrific nightmare that comes with BluRay and Web access?
Please enlighten me. I can't, in my wildest Sci- Fi dreams, believe that is true.
You buy a product (whether Blue Ray DVD or BluRay player) and the user can't control how it functions? If we have let this happen (which I don't believe), then we all need to give our proverbial heads a shake!
Not a Happy Camper ......... Dave
P.S. In case you are picking this thread up late. I want to be able to put my BluRay Disc in my BluRay player and watch the Blue Ray Movie I paid Big Bucks for ............. end of story O.K.!? Why should that be so difficult?

Paragraphs are your friend. I couldn't wade though your post to figure out what your problem is. When I want to watch a BR disk I turn on my 390, hit open and put the disk in, then close the tray and watch the damn movie. I don't have to tell the player how to handle its business. Is that what you do when you want to watch a BR movie?
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post #2612 of 3554
1/9/13 at 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

P.S. In case you are picking this thread up late. I want to be able to put my BluRay Disc in my BluRay player and watch the Blue Ray Movie I paid Big Bucks for ............. end of story O.K.!? Why should that be so difficult?

You may wish to disable BD-Live by going to Setup > BD/DVD Viewing Settings > BD Internet Connection

This will disable Internet features on Blu-ray Discs.

Note, however, that many discs have annoying, tedious menu designs that require waiting and limit your ability to skip directly to the feature presentation ( whether the player is networked or not). Whether you experience this or not depends on how the particular disc you are watching was authored.
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post #2613 of 3554
1/10/13 at 2:46am
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

Uh! What?
Essentially you are saying this is the horrific nightmare that comes with BluRay and Web access?
Please enlighten me. I can't, in my wildest Sci- Fi dreams, believe that is true.
You buy a product (whether Blue Ray DVD or BluRay player) and the user can't control how it functions? If we have let this happen (which I don't believe), then we all need to give our proverbial heads a shake!
Not a Happy Camper ......... Dave
P.S. In case you are picking this thread up late. I want to be able to put my BluRay Disc in my BluRay player and watch the Blue Ray Movie I paid Big Bucks for ............. end of story O.K.!? Why should that be so difficult?

Not sure if I'm missing something here but when I insert a disc into my S590 it takes a few seconds to load and voila I see the movie's main menu.
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post #2614 of 3554
1/10/13 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

PLEASE GOD..................HELP ME!

I know I have not been a regular at church (in fact, truth be known, I was never ever in a church unless there was a wedding or a funeral), but I get the feeling only you can help me with my problem. So I'm calling on your good graces to help me out.smile.gif
You see I spent thousands of dollars for a surround sound system, added a new a basic Panasonic Plasma TV, and bought a Sony S590 BluRay player with Web Access for the other stuff? but now when I try to watch a BluRay Movie all kinds of additional Web or (whatever) BluRay features are cluttering up the screen and are preventing me from enjoying the movie (basically at 68 I'm just an old timer ... I want to put a movie in and watch it ...... period!). Usually, with some effort I can figure out how to get back to the movie and play it, but I really am not enjoying trying to solve the "how do I get to the movie" puzzle that the various blurays appear to be presenting. (Reminds me of the Memento DVD where you had to solve a puzzle to play it. Finally, after about 1/2 hour, I went on line and got the solution and wrote it on the cover so the other Usual Suspects that hang around my place wouldn't commit suicide when they couldn't figure out how to play the movie).
The worst experience was tonight, when we tried to watch Green Zone, Somehow (after about 15 minutes of pushing buttons on the Sony Remote) I finally got to the main selection screen, but it was cluttered with numerous web and DVD options. It took me about another 15 minutes to get to where I could play the movie, as initially "play movie" was greyed out, and even then all the other screen web selections including pic within a pic were still active. After about a half an hour, of randomly pressing buttons on the remote I was able to remove most of the extranious stuff, but I was still left with 4 large icons on the R/H side of the screen that activated in and out as required throughout the movie. I'm pretty sure this was a DVD selection issue. but no matter what I tried I could not get rid of them. Pretty well ruined what appeared to me to be a decent movie.
Simple Question. I have a Sony S590, but I just want to watch a BluRay movie all the time, every time (absolutely for certain.. nothing else .... really!). Just like I was in the theater, no less, how do I do that?
Yes! Can I set it up this mot*e*f*ck*r up to do that? I still have 45 days left on the Costco NQA 90 day warranty, so if it is a BluRay player issue I would like to know. Basically for now and for all time "Me want to put movie in and watch movie ugh!, grunt!" O.K?" if I have to fast forward through upcoming previews like on the old DVDs, I can live with that, but this other sh*t is absolutely absurd!
Thanks, Dave

Return the 590 and buy a basic $39.95 Blu-ray player that only plays discs. God will forgive you. wink.gif
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post #2615 of 3554
1/10/13 at 9:51am
As an update to my earlier post related to poor Wi-Fi performance, I just purchased the Netgear XAVB1004 for $79.99 on Newegg (no shipping or tax).

This is a kit consisting of a 4-port Powerline Ethernet switch and a single port Powerline Ethernet adapter. I'll use the switch for my 590 and as a bonus, I can also connect my Onkyo TX-NR509 AVR. Woo hoo!!! biggrin.gif

Many thanks again to apw2607 and Kisakuku for the great suggestion!!! Can't wait to get it set up. I'll let you know how it works out.
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post #2616 of 3554
1/10/13 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Return the 590 and buy a basic $39.95 Blu-ray player that only plays discs. God will forgive you. wink.gif

That's a good suggestion... I was going to add: "...maybe ask one of your grand children to show you..." rolleyes.gif
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post #2617 of 3554
1/10/13 at 1:53pm
Hi,

I have a sammy 64e7000 on the way and bought the sony bd59 from costco last week, without checking a couple of things:

As i moved over from UK recently, will this play all my 400 PAL DVDs and will in play uk 1080i50 BR content.

If not, I can take it back - can you recommend a comparible player that fits my needs?

many thanks
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post #2618 of 3554
1/10/13 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

Hi,

I have a sammy 64e7000 on the way and bought the sony bd59 from costco last week, without checking a couple of things:

As i moved over from UK recently, will this play all my 400 PAL DVDs and will in play uk 1080i50 BR content.

If not, I can take it back - can you recommend a comparible player that fits my needs?

many thanks

I happened to have a PDF of the owner's manual open when I saw your post so did a quick scan. It says the player won't play "a disc recorded in a color system other than NTSC, such as PAL (this player conforms to the NTSC color system)" I couldn't find any references to 1080i50 so I'd assume no on that as well. Of course you could always try playing them to see what happens - it can't hurt the player. You could also contact Sony support via their web site and they might be able to suggest a player that would meet your needs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. frown.gif
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post #2619 of 3554
1/10/13 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

You may wish to disable BD-Live by going to Setup > BD/DVD Viewing Settings > BD Internet Connection

This will disable Internet features on Blu-ray Discs.

Note, however, that many discs have annoying, tedious menu designs that require waiting and limit your ability to skip directly to the feature presentation ( whether the player is networked or not). Whether you experience this or not depends on how the particular disc you are watching was authored.

Thanks, that helped a lot. Particularly with the Green Zone BD disc, which had the numerous additional main menu options that were associated with internet links and automatically activated if connected.
Cheers, Dave
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post #2620 of 3554
1/10/13 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by stillgolfing View Post

Thanks, that helped a lot. Particularly with the Green Zone BD disc, which had the numerous additional main menu options that were associated with internet links and automatically activated if connected.
Cheers, Dave

Glad you worked it out Dave. Now that you're good to go, would you mind sharing the phone number of your neighbor's wife? wink.gif

LOL!
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post #2621 of 3554
1/10/13 at 4:12pm
Will be interested in how the NetGear works out for you. Was looking at this powerline option as well. I want to get a more consistent streaming rate from my server and internet connection without having to run ethernet cable throughout my house.. Please post your findings - thanks in advance.
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post #2622 of 3554
1/10/13 at 10:37pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

I happened to have a PDF of the owner's manual open when I saw your post so did a quick scan. It says the player won't play "a disc recorded in a color system other than NTSC, such as PAL (this player conforms to the NTSC color system)" I couldn't find any references to 1080i50 so I'd assume no on that as well. Of course you could always try playing them to see what happens - it can't hurt the player. You could also contact Sony support via their web site and they might be able to suggest a player that would meet your needs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. frown.gif

They wont play. No PAL DVDs will play in a USA 590 unless the player is modified.

There are cheap region free players out there.
Edited by apw2607 - 1/10/13 at 11:57pm
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post #2623 of 3554
1/11/13 at 12:00am
Thread Starter 
Well. Turns out the new Sony 2nd screen tablet app isn't just for new Sony BDPs and Tvs. It will also support older players.

The app is available now from the android play store and I would imagine iOS will be available shortly. Nice to see Sony continuing to support the older devices.

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TV SideView is an application that works with selected Sony home devices such as BRAVIA, Blu-ray Disc(TM) Player, Blu-ray Disc(TM) Home Theater System, Google TV from Sony, etc.
With it, you can operate devices easily and enjoy your TV more through your smartphone or tablet device.
- Key features
1. Enjoying TV more: You can get details on the program you are watching on TV or disc etc., and see what people are tweeting about.
2. Easily find content across various services or devices: You can search from TV programs, home network (DLNA), Video Unlimited, Music Unlimited, YouTube, Netflix, web sites, applications and recorded programs on BRAVIA.
3. Send a message about what you are watching to social network sites via your smartphone or tablet device.
4. Others
- Remote: Use almost the same button layout as you would have on an actual remote control.
- Keyboard: Easier typing using the full QWERTY touch-screen keyboard.
- Free cursor: Enjoy more control of the free cursor with free pointing.
- Additional information
1. “TV SideView” will work only if your mobile device and your home device are connected to the same wireless network.
2. Some functions and services may not be supported by certain home devices.
3. Some functions and services may not be supported in certain regions/countries.
4. The seamless link to services such as YouTube etc., is subject to change or termination without notice.
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BDP-S370, S470, S570, S770, S1700, BX37, BX57, S380, S480, S580, S780, BX38, BX58, S390, S490, S590, S790, BX39, BX59, NSZ-GP9 , BDP-S3100, S4100, S5100, BX310, BX510
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post #2624 of 3554
1/11/13 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

They wont play. No PAL DVDs will play in a USA 590 unless the player is modified.

There are cheap region free players out there.

It seems to apply to all BD players sold in USA. They can only play region 1 DVD discs. Even region free discs won't work IIRC. On the other hand, most DVD players sold in the past have no problem with PAL DVDs or region free DVDs. Some can even convert PAL 50i into US 60i (Pioneer models) output.
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post #2625 of 3554
1/11/13 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

They wont play. No PAL DVDs will play in a USA 590 unless the player is modified.

There are cheap region free players out there.

It seems to apply to all BD players sold in USA. They can only play region 1 DVD discs. Even region free discs won't work IIRC. On the other hand, most DVD players sold in the past have no problem with PAL DVDs or region free DVDs. Some can even convert PAL 50i into US 60i (Pioneer models) output.

If a region free disc does not play in a US player, it wouldn't be due to lack of a region 1/A designation, it would be as a result of another issue such as incompatible resolution or frame rate.

As you noted, many US players do not support PAL/50i, this is true of most Sony, Panasonic and Samsung players, but some others brands/models do support PAL/50i (LG, Pioneer, Oppo, etc.)
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post #2626 of 3554
1/11/13 at 3:50pm
Thread Starter 
Few folks have asked about HD videos on YouTube supported on the 390/590

I have a solution for you .. But you'll need a android or iOS device and $4.99

A disclaimer. I don't or have no connection to the developer of this app. They have a free version to try but it doesn't do HD YouTube. Just SD. You can still try it though as the app has many usages.

Has a number of new streaming content available. Eg bbc top gear
Allows you to use your iOS or android device as a remote for DLNA content
Allows you to listen to music or view photos from your iOS or android device
Allows you to view yours and your friends Facebook photos on your tv
Allows connection to Picasa

It's a bit buggy especially the remote control feature for DLNA.

YouTube HD works though and any search you do on your ipad within the app is saved so you can see that same search results on the Sony

App is called iMediaShare and needs to remain running on your device as long as you use it on your BDP.

I think Sonys own ipad app coming soon is going to do some of these things anyway and it will be free.
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post #2627 of 3554
1/11/13 at 5:38pm
I cannot get my Sony BDP-S590 Blu Ray player to display in 1080p. When I use the auto detect, or manually select 1080p output, the main menu just flashes on and off on the TV (Samsung UN60D7000). I have to manually switch the player back to 720p to get a steady picture. I run through a Pioneer VSX-1021 K receiver. I already tried using another HDMI cord from my PS3 (which DOES display 1080p) and it did not correct the issue. I also got a tip to turn of HDMI Deep Color, which worked temporarily until I changed some other settings. Now the issue is back. I tried factory reset on the settings and then just turning HDMI Deep Color off again but it did not work this time.

I get the same problem if i try playing a disc.....picture flashes on and off but the sound is normal.

Thanks
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post #2628 of 3554
1/11/13 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by kiddp View Post

I cannot get my Sony BDP-S590 Blu Ray player to display in 1080p. When I use the auto detect, or manually select 1080p output, the main menu just flashes on and off on the TV (Samsung UN60D7000). I have to manually switch the player back to 720p to get a steady picture. I run through a Pioneer VSX-1021 K receiver. I already tried using another HDMI cord from my PS3 (which DOES display 1080p) and it did not correct the issue. I also got a tip to turn of HDMI Deep Color, which worked temporarily until I changed some other settings. Now the issue is back. I tried factory reset on the settings and then just turning HDMI Deep Color off again but it did not work this time.

I get the same problem if i try playing a disc.....picture flashes on and off but the sound is normal.

Thanks


How long is your HDMI cable run from player to TV (including to and from AVR)? What happens if you plug the BD player directly into an HDMI port on the TV?
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post #2629 of 3554
1/11/13 at 9:08pm
just bought an s590 to upgrade from an s570.... I used DLNA on the s570 and I've noticed that some DVD's that were ripped will not play on the s590 bu tthey play fine on the s570.... is there any kind of copy protection or something else in the s590's software that's preventing this?

I'm streaming via DLNA from a Seagate Goflex home if that helps.

also, I neve really knew exactly what formats work best for streaming via DLNA, I knwo I can play VOBs, and the s570 would play MKV's and XVID... but this issue with the s590 has me a bit confused.... I'm willing to convert to whatever format will work best, although I'd hate to convert everything I will if I have to as long as the format will play on both players as the old one is now in my master bedroom for streaming :-)

thanks all!
Mike B
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post #2630 of 3554
1/11/13 at 9:10pm
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post #2631 of 3554
1/11/13 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by exibar View Post

just bought an s590 to upgrade from an s570.... I used DLNA on the s570 and I've noticed that some DVD's that were ripped will not play on the s590 bu tthey play fine on the s570.... is there any kind of copy protection or something else in the s590's software that's preventing this?

I'm streaming via DLNA from a Seagate Goflex home if that helps.

also, I neve really knew exactly what formats work best for streaming via DLNA, I knwo I can play VOBs, and the s570 would play MKV's and XVID... but this issue with the s590 has me a bit confused.... I'm willing to convert to whatever format will work best, although I'd hate to convert everything I will if I have to as long as the format will play on both players as the old one is now in my master bedroom for streaming :-)

thanks all!
Mike B

There was a firmware update for the S590 that impacted DLNA. Users of Seviio had to change to a different player profile to get things working properly. This sounds like a similar issue. What containers and codecs are being used in the files you are having trouble with?
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post #2632 of 3554
1/12/13 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

How long is your HDMI cable run from player to TV (including to and from AVR)? What happens if you plug the BD player directly into an HDMI port on the TV?

It's 3 feet from my player to the receiver, then another 6 feet from my receiver to the wall plug, then 50 feet from the wall plug (through the attic) to another wall plug, and then a 6 foot cord from the wall plug to my tv. Yes, that is quite a bit of HDMI isn't it? I will attempt to go straight from the blue ray to the tv just to check to see how much of an issue that it is. Thanks
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post #2633 of 3554
1/12/13 at 12:40pm
Just got an S590 as part of a package deal I got and am wondering...which is better, the S590 or my Panasonic BDT210 from last year? I'll keep the better player in the living room as it'll get the most use.

thanks
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post #2634 of 3554
1/12/13 at 12:56pm
hey guys, I'm giving an update on my setup. I have gone back to cable for my home internet as i'm tired of paying so much for verizon's not unlimited data plan. If it wasn't for this fact, i'd be perfectly content with 4G LTE as a replacement for home internet.

here is a picture of my speeds for my new cable plan:


I'll also be saving a ton of money after i get rid of the rest of the data i was paying for, and discontinue the mobile hotspot service.

Since i've gone back to cable i've had a good opportunity to test the 590's streaming services such as netflix amazon and vudu.

and i've tried a few others. The unit performs great. I'm able to stream netflix all day without a glitch. I rented madagascar 3 in HDX from vudu today and it looks great!
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post #2635 of 3554
1/12/13 at 2:26pm
Anyone know how to disable the auto power off on this player? I have an S480 player that I would also like to disable auto power off.
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post #2636 of 3554
1/12/13 at 3:06pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by stu54 View Post

Anyone know how to disable the auto power off on this player? I have an S480 player that I would also like to disable auto power off.

I'm afraid not however the unit shouldn't power down if its doing something like displaying a DVD menu or BD menu. If its in netflix or amazon UI are can't recall If it powers down.

If its sat in its own menu system and you've not touched the remote for 30 mins or so it will power down.
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post #2637 of 3554
1/12/13 at 3:11pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by exibar View Post

just bought an s590 to upgrade from an s570.... I used DLNA on the s570 and I've noticed that some DVD's that were ripped will not play on the s590 bu tthey play fine on the s570.... is there any kind of copy protection or something else in the s590's software that's preventing this?

I'm streaming via DLNA from a Seagate Goflex home if that helps.

also, I neve really knew exactly what formats work best for streaming via DLNA, I knwo I can play VOBs, and the s570 would play MKV's and XVID... but this issue with the s590 has me a bit confused.... I'm willing to convert to whatever format will work best, although I'd hate to convert everything I will if I have to as long as the format will play on both players as the old one is now in my master bedroom for streaming :-)

thanks all!
Mike B

To properly test if you're files play on the 590. Install the Serviio DLNA server on a computer on your network and ensure the player is using the Bravia 2012 - us profile (in Serviio console)

If the files all play - my betting is that they will - then the issue is with your goflex DLNA server configuration.

As another post stated sony changed the way certain files are played based on the way the DLNA server presents them to the player. As such the DLNA server needs to be configured to respect this.
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post #2638 of 3554
1/12/13 at 3:13pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MyTMouse View Post

Just got an S590 as part of a package deal I got and am wondering...which is better, the S590 or my Panasonic BDT210 from last year? I'll keep the better player in the living room as it'll get the most use.

thanks

Only you can decide that.
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post #2639 of 3554
1/12/13 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

How long is your HDMI cable run from player to TV (including to and from AVR)? What happens if you plug the BD player directly into an HDMI port on the TV?

It's 3 feet from my player to the receiver, then another 6 feet from my receiver to the wall plug, then 50 feet from the wall plug (through the attic) to another wall plug, and then a 6 foot cord from the wall plug to my tv. Yes, that is quite a bit of HDMI isn't it? I will attempt to go straight from the blue ray to the tv just to check to see how much of an issue that it is. Thanks

Assuming the BD player works connected directly to the TV, the long cable length is almost definitely the cause of your issue.

In addition to turning off Deep Color, set the output resolution to 'Original Resolution' and enable 24P mode if your TV can handle it. This way your player won't do any upscaling or add additional frames to the video stream, minimizing the bandwidth you need to send down your long cable run. If this doesn't resolve the issue, you may need to purchase an active HDMI repeater. Monoprice has an inexpensive active HDMI repeater with good reviews.
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post #2640 of 3554
1/12/13 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by lengangi View Post

Will be interested in how the NetGear works out for you. Was looking at this powerline option as well. I want to get a more consistent streaming rate from my server and internet connection without having to run ethernet cable throughout my house.. Please post your findings - thanks in advance.

In short, fantastic! Lengangi, you wil not be disappointed.

The first bit of great news was that I actually received the kit the day after ordering it from Newegg (was expecting 4-7 days for shipping)! Excellent. It couldn't have been easier to set up. Plugged the single-port unit into a wall outlet near my router, connected the Ethernet and voila! Green it went! At the opposite end of the house, I plugged the 4-port switch into the wall outlet near my 590 and my receiver and connected both of those. Again, voila! Everything went green. The BDP auto-sensed the connection and learned it's Internet settings via DHCP. Same with the receiver. It all just worked. Keep in mind that the kit comes with 2 Ethernet cables, so if you have more devices to plug into the switch, then *you* have to supply the Ethernet cable. I have a drawer full of them so no issues.

Then I sat down to stream some Netflix. Could see right away how quickly the 590 connected, then how quickly the movie (the documentary "Marley" about Bob Marley) loaded. I pushed the display button on the Sony remote to monitor quality. At first it indicated SD/High, but then quickly changed to HD/Medium and almost immediately HD/High indicating 1080p (1920x1080/60p). The audio started out as DD+ and stayed that way. I then watched that entire movie and part of another and no buffering, consistently excellent quality, basically everything I'd hoped would happen.

Worked great for the AVR too. I did a firmware update via the 'net then set it up to stream Pandora (the 590 does this as well) and that worked great as well.

Bottom line is that this seems to be a terrific alternative to WiFi when your WLAN environment is not optimal. And provided your house has decent wiring.
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