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post #2671 of 3992
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

Seen and read. I think some of your posts in this thread are so specific that many don't reply because they don't use their player the same way you do. I don't Netflix and your post about Verizon 4G LTE with streaming doesn't apply to me either. Keep asking?

Thanks HD Hockey Guy, Yes I tend to be specific to the uses of my devices, and my needs. I fully understand if no one knows the answeer, they feel more comfortable not saying anything. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't having technical issues since it didn't only happen just once.

Yes my player and streaming has been a replacement for cable or satellite TV. I can pick my content more specifically, and there aren't any commercials. If i want to rent a movie i tend to use Vudu as i've found them or amazon to have the best selection and service.

Thanks again!
post #2672 of 3992
capnlando,

What I do is I take the optical digital out from my TV to the optical input on the receiver. That way I don't have to bother switching anything on the receiver (one input). Any source material (Blue-Ray, Cable, Xbox, Computer, etc.) that I play on my TV will then be transferred to my receiver. Just turn down, or off the TV speakers. If the source material is 5.1, that is what gets outputted to the receiver.
Edited by Precis - 1/15/13 at 10:41am
post #2673 of 3992
Precis,

You are lucky. Most TVs forward only stereo from attached devices, providing 5.1 audio only for stations decoded by the internal tuner.
post #2674 of 3992
Ok I noticed that every time I watch a 3D movie, the player stops receiving signals from the remote control. The movie continues playing but I can't stop, pause or do anything anymore. So I tried downloading the app on my phone and using that I was able to gain control of the blu-ray player again. At least there is a workaround but has anyone else experienced this before?
post #2675 of 3992
Are you using a Plasma TV? Plasma TV in general give out more IR interference than other TVs. And 3D Plasma TVs interfer even more. If that's the case, you might try reposition your player to see if it helps.
post #2676 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Are you using a Plasma TV? Plasma TV in general give out more IR interference than other TVs. And 3D Plasma TVs interfer even more. If that's the case, you might try reposition your player to see if it helps.

I've noticed both my wireless router and wireless speakers both get interference from my plasma so I moved them each an extra 3-4 feet away from the TV and now I get no interference on either. Good advice to just keep everything away from them if possible.
post #2677 of 3992
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Originally Posted by capnlando View Post

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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Your home theater only has one surround input, which is the optical toslink input. Connect this to the optical output of the S390. If you have other devices that you want to get surround output from (for example a cable or satellite box), consider investing in a dedicated receiver with multiple HDMI inputs.

Thanks for your help. Yes, my home theater has a optical toslink input but it seems the S390 does not. It does have an coaxial cable. Will that work also?

Sorry, I forgot about that. If you are able to return the 390 and upgrade to the 590, that is worth considering to get the optical out.

You could try to use the optical out from your TV to feed the home theater system. However, as Selden Ball mentioned,it may not be possible to get discrete surround under this configuration (it depends on whether your TV will pass on the AC3 and/ or DTS core from your player).

Another option would be to purchase a coaxial to toslink converter.
Edited by Vampidemic - 1/15/13 at 1:03pm
post #2678 of 3992
Thanks. I have a Sharp Aquos lc60le632u if that helps you help me wink.gif
post #2679 of 3992
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Originally Posted by capnlando View Post

Thanks. I have a Sharp Aquos lc60le632u if that helps you help me wink.gif

Would suggest either trying it yourself to see what happens and/or looking for an official thread for your display on AVS and post a question there about its ability to pass through surround over optical from a Blu-ray player. For most TVs, the answer is. 'No ' as far as I am aware.
post #2680 of 3992
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Originally Posted by capnlando View Post

Thanks. I have a Sharp Aquos lc60le632u if that helps you help me wink.gif

Your TV outputs both PCM and Dolby Digital via the optical out per the manual page 31.

https://d1vofmza27mmhi.cloudfront.net/product-pdf/sharp-lc60le632u-use-and-care-manual.pdf
Quote:
Audio Setup
You can output digital audio to an AV amplifi er or
similar device whose DIGITAL AUDIO INPUT terminal
is connected to the DIGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT terminal
on the TV. Please select an audio output format
compatible with the audio format of the program you
are watching and the equipment connected.
PCM: The optical output terminal outputs audio signal
in PCM form. If your digital audio system does not
support Dolby Digital, select "PCM".
Dolby Digital: The optical output terminal outputs audio
signal in Dolby Digital form. It reproduces sound from
surround program of digital.
post #2681 of 3992
The S590 often is available for about $10-$20 more than the S390.

Another option is to get an RCA coax to optical converter. They're typically about $30. EG. http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-40018-Coaxial-Converter/dp/B0002J2MV4
post #2682 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

On netflix, when i'm watching a TV series it will ask me from time to time if i'm still watching that series if i want to continue or go back to browsing. Is there a way to disable this?

Nope. It was a new feature they added a couple of months (?) ago on their end. They being Netflix not Sony.
Edited by apw2607 - 1/15/13 at 3:24pm
post #2683 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

hey guys, I'm giving an update on my setup. I have gone back to cable for my home internet as i'm tired of paying so much for verizon's not unlimited data plan. If it wasn't for this fact, i'd be perfectly content with 4G LTE as a replacement for home internet.

here is a picture of my speeds for my new cable plan:


I'll also be saving a ton of money after i get rid of the rest of the data i was paying for, and discontinue the mobile hotspot service.

Since i've gone back to cable i've had a good opportunity to test the 590's streaming services such as netflix amazon and vudu.

and i've tried a few others. The unit performs great. I'm able to stream netflix all day without a glitch. I rented madagascar 3 in HDX from vudu today and it looks great!

Looks good. Should havel plenty of bandwidth for a good streaming service. Are you getting neflix super HD streams ?
post #2684 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Hey guys, sony planing anymore firmware updates? I haven't seen any in a while. Most of what i see are the web app updates/additions.

You just don't know until they turn up I'm afraid. The 790 got one at the end of last year but the 390/590 are chugging along with the mid year one still.

New firmware will start to dry up now unless something is broken in terms of a partiular BD.

Sony will no doubt be turning their attention to the BDP-S1100, 3100 and 5100 releasing next month.
post #2685 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

has anyone bought Finding Nemo on blu-ray? I'm comparing my blu-ray disc and the dvd i bought several years ago. So far I don't see a large number of differences of video quality between the two.

I'm watching on the 590 connected to a 42" panasonic plasma.

Both sources look great! Has anyone here observed any major differences in quality?

I know with some titles, the blu-ray and DVD release, don't have a lot of differences.

There should be a noticeable difference even if its the best DVD mastered on the planet. Unless the BD got somehow messed up in authoring or a poor master, BDs look and sound significantly better. On a really really small screen perhaps those differences diminish but on my modest 46" LCD or my 100" projector screen, DVDs up scaled look like junk in comparison to HD or BD. I would prefer to watch netflix hd over DVD.
post #2686 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Hey guys, I think I may be having issues with the forum. I've asked, or posted sever updates, or asked a couple questions, and haven't gotten any replies. Not only that, when I login to check if people have replied, it will say that I'm offline, or when I am supposed to get an email telling me the thread is update, it hasn't been working reliably like it used to. I just checked now, for example, and there were a ton of replies since i last asked, and no reply to my question, but this time it said i was online which was correct.

I do understand with the email system, I won't get notified again, until i visit the forum and read the current replies, which I had been doing, and it still wasn't working like it used to.

If someone is aware of any technical issues the forum might be having, please let me know. I don't come all that often anymore, I was just checking as to why I wasn't hearing back from people, and if my posts aren't being seen, or if something else is going on technical wise.

Thanks

Ok. 5 in a row. ........ But you may not like the answers ;-)
post #2687 of 3992
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

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Originally Posted by capnlando View Post

Thanks. I have a Sharp Aquos lc60le632u if that helps you help me wink.gif

Your TV outputs both PCM and Dolby Digital via the optical out per the manual page 31.

https://d1vofmza27mmhi.cloudfront.net/product-pdf/sharp-lc60le632u-use-and-care-manual.pdf
Quote:
Audio Setup
You can output digital audio to an AV amplifi er or
similar device whose DIGITAL AUDIO INPUT terminal
is connected to the DIGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT terminal
on the TV. Please select an audio output format
compatible with the audio format of the program you
are watching and the equipment connected.
PCM: The optical output terminal outputs audio signal
in PCM form. If your digital audio system does not
support Dolby Digital, select "PCM".
Dolby Digital: The optical output terminal outputs audio
signal in Dolby Digital form. It reproduces sound from
surround program of digital.

This means that it can output Dolby Digital from the TVs built in tuner and/or other built in sources. The question is whether the TV will pass surround from the Blu-ray player when connected via HDMI, especially if playing a disc with a DTS soundtrack. Most Blu-ray discs seem to have DTS HD-MA soundtracks and most TVs do not have DTS decoders. This will likely cause the BD player to send a stereo PCM signal to the TV.
post #2688 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Are you using a Plasma TV? Plasma TV in general give out more IR interference than other TVs. And 3D Plasma TVs interfer even more. If that's the case, you might try reposition your player to see if it helps.

Actually I'm using a projector. But I do have a Logitech 605 remote I use for my Onkyo receiver
post #2689 of 3992
Thread Starter 
The BDP-S590 hit a bit of a milestone on amazon.com recently. It's just received a average of 4 1/2 stars with 630 reviews and remains the no.1 best selling BDP on Amazon. Take that CNET !!
post #2690 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

This means that it can output Dolby Digital from the TVs built in tuner and/or other built in sources. The question is whether the TV will pass surround from the Blu-ray player when connected via HDMI, especially if playing a disc with a DTS soundtrack. Most Blu-ray discs seem to have DTS HD-MA soundtracks and most TVs do not have DTS decoders. This will likely cause the BD player to send a stereo PCM signal to the TV.

Sounds like unless you are using the tuner to output Dolby Digital, any other external device will be outputting Stereo PCM regardless.
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• Depending on the connected equipment, audio will not output from the DIGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT terminal in HDMI
connection. In this case, set the audio formats of the connected equipment to PCM, 32/44.1/48 kHz.
Optical digital audio will be output in 2-ch stereo when it is from the external equipment connected to the TV using an HDMI cable.

Edited by HD Hockey Guy - 1/16/13 at 7:16am
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Netflix freezing on Sony BDP-S390, error tvp-851

Hi, is anyone else seeing constant freezing of streaming on this Sony player or similar? My broadband tests at above 10Mbps, I get the same problem connecting wired or wirelessly, and streaming to my laptop is no problem. The unit worked fine for about a month, I just have streamed around 100 shows/films without any glitches, but now it's so bad it's pretty unwatchable. Netflix tech support were very helpful but ultimately thought the issue was with the router/ISP, however I don't agree because using the laptop is fine.

My current theory is the BDP-S390 isn't clearing its cache memory and so can not forward buffer the stream at all, hence any slight drop in the broadband shows up straight away. Any thoughts? Anyone know of a way to flush the memory?
post #2692 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Simon Cockayne View Post

Hi, is anyone else seeing constant freezing of streaming on this Sony player or similar? My broadband tests at above 10Mbps, I get the same problem connecting wired or wirelessly, and streaming to my laptop is no problem. The unit worked fine for about a month, I just have streamed around 100 shows/films without any glitches, but now it's so bad it's pretty unwatchable. Netflix tech support were very helpful but ultimately thought the issue was with the router/ISP, however I don't agree because using the laptop is fine.

My current theory is the BDP-S390 isn't clearing its cache memory and so can not forward buffer the stream at all, hence any slight drop in the broadband shows up straight away. Any thoughts? Anyone know of a way to flush the memory?

I'm assuming they had you turn off the modem for 10-15 minutes and reboot then reboot router (my first fix whenever I get whacky issues with my network).

Do you have ip slots reserved for your network devices? Maybe revoke that reservation and assign a new address? Do you do any advanced network administration with priority for traffic to your devices? I seriously doubt the memory of the player is the issue and if you power off the player and unplug it for a few seconds it should clear the memory.
post #2693 of 3992
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Originally Posted by nando820 View Post

Actually I'm using a projector. But I do have a Logitech 605 remote I use for my Onkyo receiver

Does your projector has an IR emittor to send out 3D sync signal to your 3D glasses? Newer TVs like Samsung now switched to use RF instead of IR to send out sync signal for glasses.
Otherwise, I suspect your player is defective. There is no way any manufacturer will design a product this way.
post #2694 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Simon Cockayne View Post

Hi, is anyone else seeing constant freezing of streaming on this Sony player or similar? My broadband tests at above 10Mbps, I get the same problem connecting wired or wirelessly, and streaming to my laptop is no problem. The unit worked fine for about a month, I just have streamed around 100 shows/films without any glitches, but now it's so bad it's pretty unwatchable. Netflix tech support were very helpful but ultimately thought the issue was with the router/ISP, however I don't agree because using the laptop is fine.

My current theory is the BDP-S390 isn't clearing its cache memory and so can not forward buffer the stream at all, hence any slight drop in the broadband shows up straight away. Any thoughts? Anyone know of a way to flush the memory?

I'm with the Netflix support on this. It looks like your ISP problem. Bandwidth test means absolute nothing for line quality. When was the last time you did some simple ping test to outside sites? There are also tools online to help test your ISP line quality for dropped packets and excessive lags.

For your laptop (I assume it is a PC), it runs a different player (Siliver Light) and can stream SD only in most cases. Only the Windows 8 Netflix app can stream HD. So that comparison is not valid.
post #2695 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

This means that it can output Dolby Digital from the TVs built in tuner and/or other built in sources. The question is whether the TV will pass surround from the Blu-ray player when connected via HDMI, especially if playing a disc with a DTS soundtrack. Most Blu-ray discs seem to have DTS HD-MA soundtracks and most TVs do not have DTS decoders. This will likely cause the BD player to send a stereo PCM signal to the TV.

Vamp, I doubt the TV will (pass surround from the Blu-ray player when connected via HDMI). Capnlando, not to seem judgemental about your Sony home theater system, but I think now that you've added Blu-ray into the mix, it's limiting your overall experience and isn't well-matched to the capabilities of your TV and BDP. The home theater system looks pretty basic and easy to set up and use for enjoying DVDs and listening to SACD. And in that case, you don't need the TV to do any audio processing; it's done right in the home theater unit.

You're also able to use the home theater unit as a 5.1 receiver for watching TV, which is OK since the TV can handle the DD processing and output it to the home theater via the optical out. DD is the best you can get from most TV sources anyway.

But if you want to watch Blu-ray (and take advantage of DTS-HD MA) and/or use the BDP to stream HD content from the Internet, you're better off getting a 5.1 AVR with AV switching and relegating the home theater unit to another room or Craigslist. I love my Onkyo TX-NR509, which you can get for just north of $200 on eBay. Or scan the local or online classifieds, look for open box deals at BB, etc. to see if you can do better. I imagine the Sony speakers that came with your home theater system will work with a standard AVR. If they use special connectors just snip them off and replace them with banana plugs. smile.gif

My .02
post #2696 of 3992
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

For your laptop (I assume it is a PC), it runs a different player (Siliver Light) and can stream SD only in most cases. Only the Windows 8 Netflix app can stream HD. So that comparison is not valid.

The web Netflix player can stream 720p for anything the Win 8 app can play in HD. (Lots of titles which are HD on embedded players are only SD on PCs; it was running about 20% of all HD titles, but you can't get a count of HD titles in Netflix's web browser any more).
post #2697 of 3992
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Simon Cockayne View Post

Hi, is anyone else seeing constant freezing of streaming on this Sony player or similar? My broadband tests at above 10Mbps, I get the same problem connecting wired or wirelessly, and streaming to my laptop is no problem. The unit worked fine for about a month, I just have streamed around 100 shows/films without any glitches, but now it's so bad it's pretty unwatchable. Netflix tech support were very helpful but ultimately thought the issue was with the router/ISP, however I don't agree because using the laptop is fine.

My current theory is the BDP-S390 isn't clearing its cache memory and so can not forward buffer the stream at all, hence any slight drop in the broadband shows up straight away. Any thoughts? Anyone know of a way to flush the memory?

No. Its being rock solid. I've being using it heavy over the last couple of weeks as I've being off work due to surgery. Never freezing. No issues.
post #2698 of 3992
Searched the thread, Sony site & googled, but couldn't find an answer to this...

Recently got a BDP-S390 (Australian model, latest firmware), and was trying to play video files off a 1TB 3.5" powered external HDD, connected via USB. The extHDD is formatted with 3 partitions, the first is FAT, and the others NTFS.

Problem is, only the FAT partition is visible as far as I can tell. Other devices such as WD TV Mini Media Player and Topfield TRF-2100 PVR can happily access all 3 partitions. I'd prefer to use the Sony, as it has better video format support than the WD Mini, and I'd expect the interface to be better than the Topfield which is decidedly cumbersome.

Is this a limitation of the Sony? Any suggestions (other than "reformat as one drive")?
post #2699 of 3992
Great thanks, turning down the quality in my streaming preferences has fixed this issue, so it looks like my broadband really just wasn't good enough to cope with the "Ultra HD" stream. Netflix tech support could have maybe suggested this, but all's well that ends well.
post #2700 of 3992
I was thinking about picking up the S590, however Sony unveiled their 2013 line up. Do you guys have any suggestion if I should wait for the newer line to release? If I were to wait, I would probably get the top of the line model with 3D, as long as it isnt too expensive. I do not have an immediate need so I am willing to wait. I am really more concerned about PQ. Do you think the newer models will have better PQ based on the specs released so far?
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