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post #2701 of 3464
1/17/13 at 1:57pm
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I was thinking about picking up the S590, however Sony unveiled their 2013 line up. Do you guys have any suggestion if I should wait for the newer line to release? If I were to wait, I would probably get the top of the line model with 3D, as long as it isnt too expensive. I do not have an immediate need so I am willing to wait. I am really more concerned about PQ. Do you think the newer models will have better PQ based on the specs released so far?

Hard to answer these questions until more information becomes available about the new players. One thing to keep in mind though is that street price tends to be closer to list price when these players are initially released and then the price goes down over time. Great deals on the current players can be had now, but these prices may not persist if/ when supplies diminish prior to the new models hitting shelves. If pricing is a big concern you may be better off buying now, but if you want the latest and greatest and are prepared to wait and pay a little more, that may have benefits as well. Based on information disclosed so far, the BDP-S5110 seems to be the only player with 3D in the Sony 2013 lineup, but it also has 4k upscaling and has been referred to as the flagship model, so it seems to replace the BDP-S790 and will likely have a list price higher than the 590.
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1/17/13 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by Gage33 View Post

I was thinking about picking up the S590, however Sony unveiled their 2013 line up. Do you guys have any suggestion if I should wait for the newer line to release? If I were to wait, I would probably get the top of the line model with 3D, as long as it isnt too expensive. I do not have an immediate need so I am willing to wait. I am really more concerned about PQ. Do you think the newer models will have better PQ based on the specs released so far?

Well you can get a S590 for under $100 these days. If it was me I'd get 1 now and wait and see if the newer models are all that much better.
Don't see how the 3D viewing can be made much better than it is now -it's great to my eyes.
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post #2703 of 3464
1/17/13 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Hard to answer these questions until more information becomes available about the new players. One thing to keep in mind though is that street price tends to be closer to list price when these players are initially released and then the price goes down over time. Great deals on the current players can be had now, but these prices may not persist if/ when supplies diminish prior to the new models hitting shelves. If pricing is a big concern you may be better off buying now, but if you want the latest and greatest and are prepared to wait and pay a little more, that may have benefits as well. Based on information disclosed so far, the BDP-S5110 seems to be the only player with 3D in the Sony 2013 lineup, but it also has 4k upscaling and has been referred to as the flagship model, so it seems to replace the BDP-S790 and will likely have a list price higher than the 590.

No. There is no 4k upscaling on the s5100. It is a replacement for the s590. The s790 continues to be available (for now) in 2013.

It will be priced just like the old s590 give or take a few bucks.

My feeling is we will see a update to the overall UI, for the player menu, DLNA, USB Playabck, etc. could be wrong though.
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post #2704 of 3464
1/18/13 at 5:17am
Simple question about design on these DB Players. Its seems by looking at images that they are not quite flat across the top with a slight curve toward the front. My concern is that my Pace HD set top box might not set properly on top of this player. Anyone have any input or photos to share where this might be the case?

Thanks!
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post #2705 of 3464
1/18/13 at 5:39am
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Simple question about design on these DB Players. Its seems by looking at images that they are not quite flat across the top with a slight curve toward the front. My concern is that my Pace HD set top box might not set properly on top of this player. Anyone have any input or photos to share where this might be the case?

Thanks!

These players are tiny, can't imagine setting anything on one.

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post #2706 of 3464
1/18/13 at 6:28am
These players really need to go on top of your stack of components. I've stacked other things on them by adding extra large, strategically placed felt feet, but that's not ideal.
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post #2707 of 3464
1/18/13 at 6:44am
Thanks guys! I've got limited space in my cabinet now. Currently have the Pace HD box on top of Samsung BD6500 which it sets flat down on. The Pace HD box is small in size, smaller than this Sony BD player just at odds over how'd it fit with sloping design. Really like the feature set on this player but might have to find another brand in comparison that's flat across the top.
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post #2708 of 3464
1/18/13 at 7:18am
Actually it might be they fit side by side since I only need 23" of width space. Gotta do some measuring after while.
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post #2709 of 3464
1/18/13 at 10:49am
First post here. I picked up a BDP-S590 last month. In reading through quite a few pages of this forum, it seems that Serviio is highly recommended. I had never heard about Serviio before reading this fourm and I have a few questions about it.
  1. Does it work along side the standard DLNA under Windows 7? Or do i have to disable the Windows 7 DLNA?
  2. Does it simply allow you to stream more types of files than the Windows 7 DLNA?

Thanks!
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post #2710 of 3464
1/18/13 at 11:01am
You don't have to disable the windows one, but I can't think of any reason to use it once serviio is installed. There is really no comparison. Serviio handles far more file types and performs much faster.
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post #2711 of 3464
1/18/13 at 11:07am
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You don't have to disable the windows one, but I can't think of any reason to use it once serviio is installed. There is really no comparison. Serviio handles far more file types and performs much faster.

Thanks. So then, when Serviio is installed and workiing on my PC, will I notice anything different on the Sony BD player (ie. a different app or something along those lines) , or will it just show more files available for streaming?
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post #2712 of 3464
1/18/13 at 11:28am
Does anyone know what sony has planned for the 2013 blu-ray models? even though i won't need to upgrade since all my needs are met with the 590 units, I was just curious as to what's in store. Considering these sony units haven't had frequent firmware updates I'm taking this as a sign they are fairly solid and stable units.

if anyone has info on the new line of players planned for this year, let me know.

Thanks
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post #2713 of 3464
1/18/13 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Does anyone know what sony has planned for the 2013 blu-ray models? even though i won't need to upgrade since all my needs are met with the 590 units, I was just curious as to what's in store. Considering these sony units haven't had frequent firmware updates I'm taking this as a sign they are fairly solid and stable units.

if anyone has info on the new line of players planned for this year, let me know.

Google "CES 2013 Sony Blu-ray". Here's one blurb. I'm surprised that no one has created a thread to discuss them yet.

Neither Sony or Panasonic has added any apparent capabilities in their 2013 BDPs to make me want to "upgrade". It's interesting that only Sony's top of the line 2013 model is 3D capable.
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post #2714 of 3464
1/18/13 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Does anyone know what sony has planned for the 2013 blu-ray models? even though i won't need to upgrade since all my needs are met with the 590 units, I was just curious as to what's in store. Considering these sony units haven't had frequent firmware updates I'm taking this as a sign they are fairly solid and stable units.

if anyone has info on the new line of players planned for this year, let me know.

Thanks
The S1100, S3100 and S5100 were announced at CES. No replacement for the S790 has been revealed. Yet. Pricing and release dates also have not been announced.

See https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-takes-a-new-angle-on-the-total-home-entertainment-experience/
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post #2715 of 3464
1/18/13 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Google "CES 2013 Sony Blu-ray". Here's one blurb. I'm surprised that no one has created a thread to discuss them yet.

Neither Sony or Panasonic has added any apparent capabilities in their 2013 BDPs to make me want to "upgrade". It's interesting that only Sony's top of the line 2013 model is 3D capable.

Well they will stream from ios devices, and i have an iphone, but i wouldn't use my phone as a server. I currently have all my services via the 590 vudu amazon netflix, and occasionally cinema now. also they have recently added revision3 at the end of last year, and all discs i've put in them have played and it's 3d compatible so don't see much difference either other then the ios addition.

The design looks pretty though, based on the picture i saw on the site.

Looks like blu-ray as a technology has finally matured. Oh, also i'm satisfied with dlna support, all my typical files stream fine over the LAN.

Heck with the exception of vudu, and good dlna support, as a disc player my 570 still works without issues.
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post #2716 of 3464
1/18/13 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

Thanks. So then, when Serviio is installed and workiing on my PC, will I notice anything different on the Sony BD player (ie. a different app or something along those lines) , or will it just show more files available for streaming?
It will look like new apps in each category (photos, music, video) depending on what you set serviio up for. If you don't see this right away, then go in your network setup on the player and pick the new server. When you pick each app, all of your shared files should be listed. However it may take several hours, even days, to populate the list initially, depending on how many files you have. I've found that turning off metadata in serviio really speeds things up though.

Also, the default sony blu-ray profile in serviio doesn't work very well with the x90 series players, so you'll want to pick the Bravia 2012 profile in serviio.
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post #2717 of 3464
1/18/13 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

It will look like new apps in each category (photos, music, video) depending on what you set serviio up for. If you don't see this right away, then go in your network setup on the player and pick the new server. When you pick each app, all of your shared files should be listed. However it may take several hours, even days, to populate the list initially, depending on how many files you have. I've found that turning off metadata in serviio really speeds things up though.

Also, the default sony blu-ray profile in serviio doesn't work very well with the x90 series players, so you'll want to pick the Bravia 2012 profile in serviio.

Thanks again. I am also considering a WD TV Live device, which looks like it may do what Serviio can do as far as being able to stream more file formats than Windows DLNA.
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post #2718 of 3464
1/18/13 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

Thanks again. I am also considering a WD TV Live device, which looks like it may do what Serviio can do as far as being able to stream more file formats than Windows DLNA.
The WD is a far better file streamer than Serviio/Sony. If you have iso rips and things like that, WD will be able to play them, but Serviio/Sony won't.
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post #2719 of 3464
1/18/13 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

The WD is a far better file streamer than Serviio/Sony. If you have iso rips and things like that, WD will be able to play them, but Serviio/Sony won't.

Good to know...sounds like the WD is the way to go for my needs.
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post #2720 of 3464
1/18/13 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Google "CES 2013 Sony Blu-ray". Here's one blurb. I'm surprised that no one has created a thread to discuss them yet.

Neither Sony or Panasonic has added any apparent capabilities in their 2013 BDPs to make me want to "upgrade". It's interesting that only Sony's top of the line 2013 model is 3D capable.

You mean this thread >

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450585/official-sony-bdp-s1100-bdp-s3100-and-bdp-s5100

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1/18/13 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

It will look like new apps in each category (photos, music, video) depending on what you set serviio up for. If you don't see this right away, then go in your network setup on the player and pick the new server. When you pick each app, all of your shared files should be listed. However it may take several hours, even days, to populate the list initially, depending on how many files you have. I've found that turning off metadata in serviio really speeds things up though.

Also, the default sony blu-ray profile in serviio doesn't work very well with the x90 series players, so you'll want to pick the Bravia 2012 profile in serviio.

MdaveJ

I was doing some testing with the Serviio profiles as a guy in the S790 forum claimed that MKV were all broken regardless of profile ...

I did test, and the generic DLNA Serviio profile also works for my MKV AVC Mpeg 4 at least.

M2TS Mpeg2 and VC-1s also work.

The Serviio guys have just got a S790 to test, so they plan to update the profile for the 2012 players shortly.
Edited by apw2607 - 1/18/13 at 2:52pm
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1/18/13 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

The WD is a far better file streamer than Serviio/Sony. If you have iso rips and things like that, WD will be able to play them, but Serviio/Sony won't.

Have you tested the WDTV out with interlaced content though. THats where I believe it falls over I believe unless you send interlaced out from the WDTV and allow your display to de-interlace.
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1/18/13 at 2:51pm
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Well they will stream from ios devices, and i have an iphone, but i wouldn't use my phone as a server. I currently have all my services via the 590 vudu amazon netflix, and occasionally cinema now. also they have recently added revision3 at the end of last year, and all discs i've put in them have played and it's 3d compatible so don't see much difference either other then the ios addition.

As a FYi. If you watch revision 3 content a lot, you may find using the "Launch Pad" app instead of the Revision 3 one. Launch Pad contains Revision 3, but all the content I tried (Tekzilla and HD Nation) was in HD from Launch Pad. If I go to the Revision 3 app directly from the XMB, the content is in SD.
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post #2724 of 3464
1/18/13 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

The Serviio guys have just got a S790 to test, so they plan to update the profile for the 2012 players shortly.
That's great news. Finally we'll get a good profile!
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Have you tested the WDTV out with interlaced content though. THats where I believe it falls over I believe unless you send interlaced out from the WDTV and allow your display to de-interlace.
My old WD is long gone, so thanks for pointing this out.
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post #2725 of 3464
1/18/13 at 7:08pm
I am planning on getting the S590 to replace another Sony bluray. Does anybody see a problem with setting it up with my Denon AVR 1910? The Denon can't do 3D,but I'm not really concerned about 3D at the moment.Mainly want to see if the hookup will be ok. Will be used for the typical bluray,amazon,etc.
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post #2726 of 3464
1/18/13 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by gnphiker View Post

Actually it might be they fit side by side since I only need 23" of width space. Gotta do some measuring after while.

Actually its a no go that way. I just purchased the S590 (85.97 from amazon with $10 GC) since it is flat across the top. Don't need the 3D feature but its only a few bucks more going this route. Should be way better than the aggravating Samsung C6500 I've dealt with for 2 1/2 years.
Edited by gnphiker - 1/18/13 at 9:13pm
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1/18/13 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by Scooby06 View Post

I am planning on getting the S590 to replace another Sony bluray. Does anybody see a problem with setting it up with my Denon AVR 1910? The Denon can't do 3D,but I'm not really concerned about 3D at the moment.Mainly want to see if the hookup will be ok. Will be used for the typical bluray,amazon,etc.

No. It will work fine.
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1/18/13 at 9:45pm
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I am planning on getting the S590 to replace another Sony bluray. Does anybody see a problem with setting it up with my Denon AVR 1910? The Denon can't do 3D,but I'm not really concerned about 3D at the moment.Mainly want to see if the hookup will be ok. Will be used for the typical bluray,amazon,etc.

Just be sure to disable Deep Color on the player, then you should be fine. I use one of my S590s with a Denon AVR-1610 from the same model year and it has worked great since turning off Deep Color (had issues with audio drop outs when it was first installed with Deep Color on).
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post #2729 of 3464
1/19/13 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

No. It will work fine.

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Just be sure to disable Deep Color on the player, then you should be fine. I use one of my S590s with a Denon AVR-1610 from the same model year and it has worked great since turning off Deep Color (had issues with audio drop outs when it was first installed with Deep Color on).

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post #2730 of 3464
1/19/13 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

It will look like new apps in each category (photos, music, video) depending on what you set serviio up for. If you don't see this right away, then go in your network setup on the player and pick the new server. When you pick each app, all of your shared files should be listed. However it may take several hours, even days, to populate the list initially, depending on how many files you have. I've found that turning off metadata in serviio really speeds things up though.

Also, the default sony blu-ray profile in serviio doesn't work very well with the x90 series players, so you'll want to pick the Bravia 2012 profile in serviio.

Just installed Serviio. Shall I choose the Bravia 2012 or the Bravia 2012 - US profile?
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