Official Sony BDP-S590 and BDP-390 Thread - Page 93

Optical does have the advantage that it provides better ground and noise isolation. This sometimes can be helpful if your audio system has ground loop problems. If your player hasn't introduced a ground loop into your audio system, though, then it's irrelevant. I.e. for most people the ground isolation is irrelevant.

Maybe someone could help. My dad just got a BDP-BX59 and I was trying to help him set up the WiFi. The on-screen keyboard he gets to type his Wireless password doesn't give him any - (dashes) and he has two dashes in his password. Can someone help me figure out how to have him type a - mark for his password. He says he only sees the . @ / and : marks in the onscreen keyboard but I just think he is missing something. Searched the manual but that was no help. ( i am not near him to be able to stop buy and don't want to change his Wifi password on the router)

I came across the same thing on the 590. My username for almost everything I access on secure websites includes an underscore and there is not one available on Sony's on-screen keyboard. Pretty short-sided of Sony if you ask me.

Just tried fooling around with my BDP-S590, tell your dad when he needs a dash (-) from the onscreen keyboard to hit the blue key on the Sony remote, it will toggle the keyboard between alphanumeric and symbols. Red button for capital/lower case, Green button for Backspace, blue button for alphanumeric/symbol toggle.

If he has a USB computer keyboard, he may be able to use it on the front USB port of the BDP-BX59. I have a generic USB keyboard and it worked on my Sony BDP-S590. It might save him from having to change his wi-fi password. Good luck with it.

From the Sony BDPS590_BX59.pdf manual:

• Some USB devices may not work with this
player.
• The player can recognize Mass Storage
Class (MSC) devices (such as flash memory
or an HDD), Still Image Capture Device
(SICD) class devices and 101 keyboard.
• To avoid data corruption or damage to the
USB memory or devices, turn off the player
when connecting or removing the USB
memory or devices.
Edited by donebu - 1/21/13 at 10:19am

Interesting...I will have to try this. Thanks.

OK -- I had not explored the blue button. Thank you!

NF is in the process of changing their encoding to lower the max bitrate used. i've already noticed that the bitrate via PC is lower than before. they _say_ that image quality will be the same

thanks for the tip...I wondered if there was a way to test what the S390 sees from the inside.
I ran the test 5x and got an average of 5200 kb/s
I am assuming this is my problem, and the reason I never saw it before is that my ISP opened up a few more levels of HD video that my box cant handle....

So...it seems I am stuck...
- I currently only have 3 levels of streaming capabilities from Netflix which is way to coarse
- My S390 will not clamp down the input data rate even if I manually set the output resolution to 720p
- For some reason my S390 will only see half the bandwidth that I constantly get outside the box...

Any way to test the Xbox 360 B/W or the Dish Vip622 so I can compare against what the S390 sees??

thanks all for the help....this has been a most enlightening journey....

bama

This would be good as it would give us more levels to look at as far as data rates are concerned.
Why doesnt Netflix just make 5 or 6 tiers and let people adjust the source based on their b/w That would solve a lot....

Netflix had 720p encodes at 2350- and 3600 Kbps and a 1080p encode at 4800 Kbps for most HD titles. They've more or less completely replaced the 3600 Kbps 720p encodes with 3000 Kbps ones and the 4800 Kbps 1080p encodes with 3850 Kbps ones, encoded with some new technology that they got from a company called eyeIO, which supposedly delivers as-good-or-better quality in less bandwidth. Of course, they've offered absolutely no proof of that claim . I've been trying to get forum member msgohan to use his HDMI capture card to get some frames for comparison with some that he captured last year of the old encodes.

However, for some currently small subset of cable providers (including bamafamily's) they've also introduced some higher bit rate 1080p encodes that they're calling "Super HD", at 4300- and 5800 Kbps. bamafamily's problem is that his S390 is choking on that 5800 Kbps encode and he can't block it.
Edited by michaeltscott - 1/21/13 at 10:01pm

"Of course, it should go without saying that HDMI provides the highest quality digital audio from a Blu-ray player. Only HDMI supports lossless HD surround formats (DTS HD-MA and Dolby TrueHD)."

So I know I am really naive + new about technology but it appears the advice I have been given was indeed wrong on many fronts. So, if I am understanding this correctly, if I can get sound through HDMI I should just do that? Am I understanding correctly? That makes life easier. Honestly I was told (and just believed it at the word go) I needed to upgrade the sound over HDMI. Good grief, I feel like a dork. I would just love extra confirmation on this before I move on so I am not a pin ball tossed around with personal preference vs. fact.

Since you asked about optical/coax we assumed that was your only option. If you can do HDMI, use that by all means. It is superior to optical/coax.

May have missed this, but does anyone know what sample rate the SOny S390 converts DSD SACD audio to PCM at?
Thanks

I know this might be slightly off topic for this particular thread, however I have been playing with the firefox web browser more and more lately and was wondering, why there wasn't a specific avs add-on, or if there was, how I could find it. ever since i've gotten into ios, I've enjoyed more and more, the concept of apps for specific things.

I've tried a few add-ons like facebook messenger, and Yoono, and they're nice for social netoworking, Does avs forum have specific threads i could use that have more of a computer/software theme, that aren't specifically geared to A/V devices only?

Thanks.

Sony PSN was down for maintenance for about 24-36 hours for most users. It was during that same time you had your problems so I don't know if it uses the same servers to access the content or not but that's a pretty odd coincidence if not.


It's the industy's own fault for telling us originally that optical was the way to go for surround and how HDMI could only do pcm stereo and then changing the specs. Damn technology and progress!

I had the same issue when I first got up to date equipment until AVS taught me different.

The HTPC forums might be what you want: http://www.avsforum.com/f/26/home-theater-computers

Personally I use Firefox to view AVS on desktop and laptop computers with the "AVS Black skin". There are quite a few browser-related settings in the "Full Account Details" section of each user's profile.

Official reply from Sony tech support:

Wow...this is unfortunate, but good to know. Thanks for passing it on.

Capnlando - you mentioned you were considering that Onkyo system I pointed you to on woot.com. Curious to know if you did indeed order it. That system gives you HDMI all around. Or is this a different application? If you did order it, I'll be anxious to hear how you make out with it. Please do let us know.

Okay, I've got an issue with my BDP-S590, I picked it up about a week and a half ago.

The symptoms are pretty straightforward: When playing Netflix, it starts off fine, then after a while (20 minutes or so), the screen goes out. There's a brief flicker of static and then just a black screen. The TV says it's still receiving a 1080p60 signal. Stopping playback has no effect. Turning either the TV or the BD player off and on again will bring picture back. Tonight, I tried just switching inputs on the TV, to something else and then back to HDMI, and the picture came back. Lasted about a minute, then went out again. The timing of the problems would seem to indicate that something inside the unit is warming up and that's when the problem starts (although there's no indications that it's overheating, the unit still feels cool to the touch).

Now, I've seen that flicker before.. I've got a twitchy DVI input on my TV, and that's what it does when it's trying to negotiate HDCP. So I thought it could be some kind of HDCP thing, since I didn't know if Netflix was using it or not. I've been streaming quite a bit of media over my home network to the thing, and that didn't have any problems, but then network content like that won't be using HDCP at all, so it kind of supported the theory. I popped in a DVD, again no problems (again, not sure what's using HDCP or not). So I popped in a Blu-ray, which I know damned well uses HDCP, and it played through all the way without a single glitch, ran like a champ.

So it seems that whatever's happening is specific to Netflix content. It's the only online service I have, so I can't really check around to see what else may be doing it. It doesn't appear to be HDCP directly, since I can play Blu-rays without the problem cropping up. I've seen a few references to Netflix problems in this thread (Google kept pointing me here as well), but those don't seem to be the same sort of thing that's happening here.

Any ideas?

I will call and hopefully get a tech that knows what I am talking about..
Is there anyway to know what they are actually force feeding me in the stream besides just a "Super HD" name on the display??
And from what I am reading, as my ISP is part of this new club, Super HD could be 4300 or 5800, right?? no way to distinguish??

thanks
Bama

You can adjust the download speed at Accounts at Netflix. I just did it the other way to get better quality but you could try the two lower speeds to see which works for you.

Is it me or does it take the discs longer to load on this player than say the older S390? Seems the blu-rays take a while where the screen is black. Never had that before.

If you'd gone back and read the conversation about his problem, you'd see that that has already been suggested and tried. The level below "Best", called "Better", only gets you 1300 Kbps, too low to get 1750 Kbps best standard definition encode; it wasn't good enough. Basically he wants to block the 4300 Kbps and 5800 Kbps Super HD encodes and there doesn't seem to be a way to do that.