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post #2821 of 3462
1/25/13 at 7:55pm
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I've been ripping with make Mkv, not sure what it creates...

If you're on a Mac there's a app called media inspector that can properly examine the media file. For Windows pcs not sure

Make mkv just creates a MKV container based on whatever codec were used for the disk.

Most popular is mpeg 4 AVC

Then VC-1

And then some older titles are mpeg 2
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post #2822 of 3462
1/25/13 at 7:58pm
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One other thing to consider . If you're really concerned about disk load times, the s790 is a bit faster than the 590. But not by much.
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post #2823 of 3462
1/25/13 at 8:29pm
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I'm almost ready to buy this save for one concern - I've read that the load time can be up to twice as long as other players, for instance panny bdt 220. What do you guys think, is this true? I really can't stand the slow load times! If the panny is faster I am strongly tempted to go that route, even though everything else about this one looks better. I don't care about netflix or other internet streaming, I have those features already elsewhere. I am interested in playing back mkv on my local network, any recommendation on this vs. the panny with regard to mkv streaming? If the mkv streaming worked much better than on the panny, then I would probably prefer that even with slower load times.

Edit: quick start / quick load? Does it work or is it just marketing lies.

I compared disc load times for a couple of discs between the S390 and BDT220 and reported them here (I'd have sworn that I tested more than two discs but I must have reported those results elsewhere). Depending on the disc the Panasonic can be significantly faster. Another advantage for BD playback versus the Sonys is that it has a 1.5x fast-forward with unmodified pitch sound. You say that you don't care about network VOD but know that the BDT220 has a rare capability to output native 24p for all network VOD apps such as Netflix and VUDU (apw2607 has stated that it works horribly for him but he's the only one I've heard say that and aaronwt has stated that it works just fine for him; I can't judge since my 6 y/o LCD panel can't accept 24p).

However, if you care more about streaming files from your LAN via DLNA, a Sony player is the clear choice. They support many more video formats than the Panasonics.
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post #2824 of 3462
1/26/13 at 6:16am
Yeah I mean if converted to PCM. My setup is- 390-passive pre amp-active Mackie monitors. I'm guessing that it is 176.4 kHz
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post #2825 of 3462
1/26/13 at 7:05am
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One other thing to consider . If you're really concerned about disk load times, the s790 is a bit faster than the 590. But not by much.

A trick to improve apparent load times is to turn on the Sony player by pressing the "Open tray" button instead of the power on button. It opens the tray before it starts the boot-up code. By the time I've found the right disc, loaded it (closing the tray with a gentle push) and gotten back to my seat, the player usually has started playing the disc.
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post #2826 of 3462
1/26/13 at 8:55am
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One other thing to consider . If you're really concerned about disk load times, the s790 is a bit faster than the 590. But not by much.

My old S570 is much faster than S590 for boot up. But its streaming capability is non-existent,
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post #2827 of 3462
1/26/13 at 9:26am
I upgraded from an old LG BD-390, and the disc load time on the Sony 590 is significantly faster.

I'm one of those guys that doesn't see the need to upgrade my player every six months, so I'm not in the situation of having to compare load times between two relatively new players to determine which one is faster and whether it's worth the upgrade. The only reason I'm upgrading at all is because the LG doesn't support 3D Blu-rays, now that I'm finally buying a 3D TV. If not for that, I wouldn't be upgrading until the LG died, that could be years from now.
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post #2828 of 3462
1/26/13 at 2:26pm
Hi,

Just set this up and it seems a good player. One issue though - apart from the Plex app being very poor interface wise, it will not stream any of my 20,000 songs I have on a hdd connected to my pc ( works perfectly on Roku in bedroom )

Any ideas why this is, and how I can get it to see the music on the hdd drive connected to pc, via wifi?

Thanks
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post #2829 of 3462
1/26/13 at 4:10pm
I was in the market for a new streaming package before I picked this one up, and went with Serviio after hearing so much about it. It's been absolutely flawless so far. Mostly use it for video, though.
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post #2830 of 3462
1/26/13 at 4:44pm
Thank you!
I wanted to know which setting for the BDP.
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post #2831 of 3462
1/26/13 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by simonoaks View Post

Hi,

Just set this up and it seems a good player. One issue though - apart from the Plex app being very poor interface wise, it will not stream any of my 20,000 songs I have on a hdd connected to my pc ( works perfectly on Roku in bedroom )

Any ideas why this is, and how I can get it to see the music on the hdd drive connected to pc, via wifi?

Thanks

There's no plex app on the BDP 590. It's just that the plex server provides a very basic DLNA server plugin and as such the Sony BDP 590 can then connect to plex. Unless plex has a specific profile for the BDP 590 you will be on shaky ground and are better off using a DLNA server that works well with Sony players such as Serviio.

http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/42523-writing-profiles-for-dlna-devices/
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post #2832 of 3462
1/27/13 at 8:38am
thanks,

I found with my old panny 210 in bedroom that the apps and particularly streaming was poor, and it seems with both my new sony 590 and sammy e7000 plama that that is still the case. I went for the simplest solution and just bought another Roku, so I now have one in bedroom and lounge. It is important top me, as I do not have cable/sat and do not watch normal TV , I rely on BR, DVD and streaming. The Roku GUI and general functionality is awesome and makes all the streaming functionality in players and TVs redundant.
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post #2833 of 3462
1/27/13 at 1:31pm
I have a BDPS390 and I was trying to watch Battlestar Galactica Season 4.5 on Bluray. Specifically the extended version of the final episode. I find that when the movie gets to about 1/3 of the way it starts to skip and stutter. I had the same problem before when I had the BDPS185 and I was trying to watch Lost on Bluray. The discs are not scratched and the laser was recently cleaned. Do some players have problems reading some bluray discs?
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post #2834 of 3462
1/27/13 at 4:53pm
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I have a BDPS390 and I was trying to watch Battlestar Galactica Season 4.5 on Bluray. Specifically the extended version of the final episode. I find that when the movie gets to about 1/3 of the way it starts to skip and stutter. I had the same problem before when I had the BDPS185 and I was trying to watch Lost on Bluray. The discs are not scratched and the laser was recently cleaned. Do some players have problems reading some bluray discs?

Do you have another player you can test the disc in? I have encountered discs with manufacturing defects that were not visible on the disc.
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post #2835 of 3462
1/27/13 at 6:15pm
The disc has worked on my BDPS350 and BDPS185 before
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post #2836 of 3462
1/28/13 at 5:36am
Picked up my 590 yesterday at Best Buy so I'm now in the Sony club. I've been using Panasonic Blu-Ray players for the last 3 years and it seems like they fail after about a year and half. Very frustrating. I'm done with Panasonic.

So far the 590 is working OK and watched my first movie last night. Got a bit confused about the setup. Even after turning on bit streaming, I still was not seeing DTS Master Audio at my AVR. Only PCM. Discovered quick that I needed to disable the BD Audio Mix setting. No biggy. Had to disable deep color as well. Just too saturated for my taste.

Like the menu system. No learning curve since it's like the PS3. Nice!

Seems like the PQ is ever bit as good as the Panasonic players I had. Haven't messed with internet streaming yet. Will try that out tonight.
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post #2837 of 3462
1/28/13 at 6:17am
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The disc has worked on my BDPS350 and BDPS185 before

I would replace the unit with another one.
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post #2838 of 3462
1/28/13 at 10:40am
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I would replace the unit with another one.
Really? I dont understand...i mean i have no problem playing other discs on the 390.
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post #2839 of 3462
1/28/13 at 10:47am
I am able to stream stereo music from my PC to my 590 at 192 kHz/24 bit over Ethernet using JRiver MC. They are actually FLAC but MC converts to WAV. I have some DTS 5.1 music. That also converts fine but some doesn't....maybe the bit rate is too high. My question is: what is the absolute highest anyone has been able to get out of streaming to their 3/5/790? I wonder if this puppy tops out at stereo 192/24 or some equivalent for multi channel...I also tried to convert some DSD but no go.
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post #2840 of 3462
1/28/13 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by funkymonkey0930 View Post

Really? I dont understand...i mean i have no problem playing other discs on the 390.

Maybe contact Sony directly? You are a loyal Sony customer but something here doesn't jive:

  • Your 390 plays other discs with no issue but not the "Battlestar Galactica" disc
  • The Battlestart Galactica disc plays fine on your S350 and S185
  • Your S185 had a similar issue playing "Lost" but not "Battlestar"

There's just no consistency to this thread.
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post #2841 of 3462
1/28/13 at 1:02pm
I had a similar problem with a different manufacturer's player -- a DVD which played fine in other players didn't play in that player. Powering off the player (unplugging it from the wall) and letting it sit for a while fixed it.
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post #2842 of 3462
1/28/13 at 1:45pm
A BD player should play all discs without any issues (bar any compatibility issue which typically will be addressed by a firmware update shortly after that disc was released). If one of your disc didn't play correctly in the middle, it is either a bad disc (which you can't simply judge by look at the disc) or bad player. It is hard to say which one is which.
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post #2843 of 3462
1/28/13 at 3:24pm
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A BD player should play all discs without any issues (bar any compatibility issue which typically will be addressed by a firmware update shortly after that disc was released). If one of your disc didn't play correctly in the middle, it is either a bad disc (which you can't simply judge by look at the disc) or bad player. It is hard to say which one is which.

Yea, I agree. If you have a opportunity to return the thing, and get another one ... I would do that. At least you'll know one way or another. Thats why buying from places like Amazon with a very good return policy is really worth it imo.

OP: What are Sony going to say ? What can they do ? Nothing other than send it off for inspection and even then I doubt they can troubleshoot these sorts of quirky issues. If its new, just get another one.
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post #2844 of 3462
1/28/13 at 6:55pm
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I am able to stream stereo music from my PC to my 590 at 192 kHz/24 bit over Ethernet using JRiver MC. They are actually FLAC but MC converts to WAV. I have some DTS 5.1 music. That also converts fine but some doesn't....maybe the bit rate is too high. My question is: what is the absolute highest anyone has been able to get out of streaming to their 3/5/790? I wonder if this puppy tops out at stereo 192/24 or some equivalent for multi channel...I also tried to convert some DSD but no go.

Using Serviio to stream FLAC files to my 590 (Serviio transcodes to PCM), the highest I recall having success with is 48 KHz/16-bit. I know that 96 KHz failed for me, I think 48/24 failed as well. Serviio does not support WAV, not sure if that would change the results.
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post #2845 of 3462
1/29/13 at 12:25am
Hello,
I have bought recently a BD player, BDP-S590 model and I can't read movies subtitle because the subtitle font size is too small. I don't find any setting to increase the subtitle font size, even after I made the firmware update. This is a major impediment to watch movies.



I didn't pay the price fixed for the BD player SONY BDP-S590 to spend my free time editing subtitles! If the SONY Company is not able to fix this problem with a firmware update, I will decide to return back this BD player to the shop from where I bought (after that I will write on his site about this problem to prevent the costumers) and I will look to find another product.

On the internet I found information about some models of BD players produced by Samsung or LG which allow you to set subtitle size in three steps.


Can someone make a modded firmware update for solving this problem ?


Sincerely yours,
Adrian
Edited by smara1009 - 1/29/13 at 5:22am
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post #2846 of 3462
1/29/13 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by smara1009 View Post

Hello,
I have bought recently a BD player, BDP-S590 model and I can't read movies subtitle because the subtitle font size is too small. I don't find any setting to increase the subtitle font size, even after I made the firmware update. This is a major impediment to watch movies.



I didn't pay the price fixed for the BD player SONY BDP-S590 to spend my free time editing subtitles! If the SONY Company is not able to fix this problem with a firmware update, I will decide to return back this BD player to the shop from where I bought (after that I will write on his site about this problem to prevent the costumers) and I will look to find another product.

On the internet I found information about some models of BD players produced by Samsung or LG which allow you to set subtitle size in three steps.


Can someone make a modded firmware update for solving this problem ?


Sincerely yours,
Adrian

The only thing I can think of that might change the subtitle size is if you go into display settings and to TV screen size for 3D and change that. It's just for tuning the 3D effect, but it may contain a setting relating to subtitle sizes. There is nothing in the manual about changing subtitle sizes. Page 28 has the only relevant info I could find. http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS590_BX59.pdf
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post #2847 of 3462
1/29/13 at 8:27am
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The disc has worked on my BDPS350 and BDPS185 before

My 590 would not play one normal dvd. Resetting it did nothing. Another standard def dvd locked up the player, resetting it fixed it on that disc. No prob. on any Blu Rays. If it happens again, back to Costco.
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post #2848 of 3462
1/29/13 at 10:46am
Thank you for your answer.!
I think that an other method to increase the font size of the Subtitles is to modd the firmware in the Blu-ray Disc player. I see DVD players modded firmware who added many improvements and bug fixes at the menu, subtitle even for image.
But I don't know how to make this firmware update. That is the reason for I asking help.
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post #2849 of 3462
1/29/13 at 12:38pm
Since none of these player firmware are open source, modding it requires to illegally accquire the original firmware source code and make the modification. That's how most of those DVD firmware modding operations work in the past until they got shutdown by authorities. Good luck with that.
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post #2850 of 3462
1/29/13 at 1:22pm
I just bought this Sony BDP-S590 and Pandora and TV shows from a USB thumb drive do not play in surround sound. DVDs play fine in surround, though. Any ideas? Pandora and the shows on the thumb drive play fine in surround through the Roku XDS.

I am using the digital optical audio out, though, because my old receiver doesn't have HDMI ports. But, it shouldn't matter because the Roku is on digital optical audio, too, and it plays everything in surround sound.
Edited by buffettck - 1/29/13 at 1:35pm
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