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post #2881 of 3991
Okay, I got the surround sound thing figured out and, now, I love this player! One question, though. When I play a file in a folder on the USB stick, how do I get it to automatically stop when the file is done instead of it rolling right into the next file and playing it automatically? Thanks!
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Canada. I'm just using the default Windows 7 stuff. Software version is M11.R.0422.

Windows 7 is your problem. Just download Serviio and use the Bravia 2012 - profile.

You'll be all set then.
post #2883 of 3991
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Originally Posted by buffettck View Post

Okay, I got the surround sound thing figured out and, now, I love this player! One question, though. When I play a file in a folder on the USB stick, how do I get it to automatically stop when the file is done instead of it rolling right into the next file and playing it automatically? Thanks!

Yes. That's a odd one. In older versions of file and DLNA playback there use to be a option to have single and continuous play. But sony removed that feature.

There use to be shuffle play AND music and photos would be displayed In a thumbnail / album art too ...... But it all got removed years ago.

So you're out of luck I'm afraid.
post #2884 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Yes. That's a odd one. In older versions of file and DLNA playback there use to be a option to have single and continuous play. But sony removed that feature.

There use to be shuffle play AND music and photos would be displayed In a thumbnail / album art too ...... But it all got removed years ago.

So you're out of luck I'm afraid.

Really? With this advanced player? Even my way old ROKU stopped at the end of each file when it was done playing.
post #2885 of 3991
Ugh, I know this question is probably posted a dozen times in this 97 page thread, but hoping someone can steer me to the post with a solution.

I purchased a s590 Blu Ray unit and was hoping I'd be able to watch my youtube favorites (roughly 200 music videos/concerts). First time I tried, I used my credentials to log in and my 200 list of "favorites" appeared as just 7 videos on the blu ray. I did some poking around online and saw there may be a problem if I have any favorites that have since become unavailable, so I went to my online account and deleted the 4 videos that had subsequently changed to unavailable. Not sure how that could be the cause, since the unavailable videos were well down in my favorites, after video 150. Anyhow, I deleted and tried again; same result - still just 7 songs showed in favorites.

Thinking perhaps it's an issue with favorites, I decided to create a new playlist, starting with 25 videos, first confirming all play correctly online. I went to the blu ray, searched playlists, and sure enough under my account->playlists-> it does display "[New Playlist] 25 videos." However, selecting that playlist, it prompts over to a new screen showing just 3 songs, and the header on the top right of the says "1-3/3 videos." There no way I can see to get to any of the other 22 videos the prior screen seemingly recognized as being part of my 25 total playlist. Worse, I don't feel any closer to solving this mystery since the blu ray in this instance recognizes I have 25 videos, but simply gives no way to get to them (which is different from the issue I encountered with favorites, as the blu ray only found 7 of 200, but displayed allowed me to play all 7 that it found).

I'm no technological genius, but what the heck?

TIA
post #2886 of 3991
I'm ordering a 590 tonight. Wish me luck! I've perused this forum and it sounds like an excellent player. Current have an LG BP620, which is great when it works, but it's dying fast - have to constantly unplug it from the outlet due to it locking up, and now it's decided (when it actually works) to not read DVDs, although it reads BluRays fine. I'm done.

Looking forward to this new 590. Anything I should know about out of the box? Obviously upgrade to newest firmware first thing. Anything else?

Quick question: I have some movies on a USB HD. If I have them in folders, will the interface show a picture if I have a JPEG in the folder? This helps my kids decide what movie they want to watch instead of me reading them all to them. My old WDTV could do this, but the LG does not, it only shows filenames. Hopefully the 590 can do this (but not a dealbreaker).
post #2887 of 3991
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Originally Posted by HBNet View Post

I'm ordering a 590 tonight. Wish me luck! I've perused this forum and it sounds like an excellent player. Current have an LG BP620, which is great when it works, but it's dying fast - have to constantly unplug it from the outlet due to it locking up, and now it's decided (when it actually works) to not read DVDs, although it reads BluRays fine. I'm done.

Looking forward to this new 590. Anything I should know about out of the box? Obviously upgrade to newest firmware first thing. Anything else?

Quick question: I have some movies on a USB HD. If I have them in folders, will the interface show a picture if I have a JPEG in the folder? This helps my kids decide what movie they want to watch instead of me reading them all to them. My old WDTV could do this, but the LG does not, it only shows filenames. Hopefully the 590 can do this (but not a dealbreaker).

I don't think it will associate the JPEG and the video file of the same name (like my old Sony MP3 player would). If you select video from the Home screen and go to the folder, it will filter out all of the other files based on their file extension and you won't even see them. All of the video icons shown are little blue film strips. The only thing I would suggest it to print out your movie list with a picture next to each title, and leave that on the player to help the kids choose.

One thing I don't like is that the 590 doesn't show you the time duration of the video files when you are looking in the folder like my 2011 Sony HX tv would, which is odd since both menu structures appear to be identical.
post #2888 of 3991
The 590 does upscale NetFlix content to 1080/60p, is that correct?

Rich
post #2889 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

I don't think it will associate the JPEG and the video file of the same name (like my old Sony MP3 player would). If you select video from the Home screen and go to the folder, it will filter out all of the other files based on their file extension and you won't even see them. All of the video icons shown are little blue film strips. The only thing I would suggest it to print out your movie list with a picture next to each title, and leave that on the player to help the kids choose.

One thing I don't like is that the 590 doesn't show you the time duration of the video files when you are looking in the folder like my 2011 Sony HX tv would, which is odd since both menu structures appear to be identical.

Thanks for the info! Like I said, not a dealbreaker by any means, but it would've been nice. Printing out the paper is a good idea, though. Thanks again.
post #2890 of 3991
if a youtube video has varied resolutions from 240p to 1080p ... will the bdp-s590 automatically pickup the highest possible resoluition like 1080p ?
post #2891 of 3991
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Originally Posted by rich584 View Post

The 590 does upscale NetFlix content to 1080/60p, is that correct?

Rich

Yes: http://support.netflix.com/en/node/443#gsc.tab=0
post #2892 of 3991
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Yes: http://support.netflix.com/en/node/443#gsc.tab=0

I think what this chart is really saying is, that the highest stream quality and resolution these players can receive is 1080p ... rather than saying the player upscales content to 1080p

So long as the user selects HDMI output resolution: 1080p (or Auto if their display device correctly send the supported resolution as 1080p) ... then all Netflix content will be put into a 1080p frame.
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Originally Posted by gmanjesh View Post

if a youtube video has varied resolutions from 240p to 1080p ... will the bdp-s590 automatically pickup the highest possible resoluition like 1080p ?

The Sony YouTube app only displays video in standard definition. In otherwords it only plays the standard definition streams regardless of it being set up to output 1080p from the player itself.
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Quick question: I have some movies on a USB HD. If I have them in folders, will the interface show a picture if I have a JPEG in the folder? This helps my kids decide what movie they want to watch instead of me reading them all to them. My old WDTV could do this, but the LG does not, it only shows filenames. Hopefully the 590 can do this (but not a dealbreaker).

Whether USB hard-drive or DLNA, the Sony BDPs is rather crippled when it comes to displaying music album artwork or thumbnails for video or photos.

Its a shame because the very same DLNA interface on my Sony XBR9 from 2009 shows album artwork, thumbnails and even shuffle plays tracks. No idea why Sony removed all of this from 2009 to 2012 !
post #2895 of 3991
Hey all, has anyone else experienced loading trouble with netflix tonight on this unit? I've experienced slow load times, sometimes netflix will just put up an alert saying it was unable to connect, sometimes it would load to the netflix logo splash screen, and one time just quit and went back to the home screen. This has happened on both my 590 units. Usually netflix has been rock solid for me, that's why i'm asking.

Thanks, I hope someone can provide feedback.
post #2896 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

I think what this chart is really saying is, that the highest stream quality and resolution these players can receive is 1080p ... rather than saying the player upscales content to 1080p

So long as the user selects HDMI output resolution: 1080p (or Auto if their display device correctly send the supported resolution as 1080p) ... then all Netflix content will be put into a 1080p frame.

Yup, the chart is just for Sony devices that stream NetFlix's new HD format. I was asking if regular DVDs and all NetFlix streaming content is upscaled. My Samsung BD-e6500s do that and I need another BD player to put on a AV system.

Rich
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Hey all, has anyone else experienced loading trouble with netflix tonight on this unit? I've experienced slow load times, sometimes netflix will just put up an alert saying it was unable to connect, sometimes it would load to the netflix logo splash screen, and one time just quit and went back to the home screen. This has happened on both my 590 units. Usually netflix has been rock solid for me, that's why i'm asking.

Thanks, I hope someone can provide feedback.

Same thing on my S390, switched to Roku and all good.
post #2898 of 3991
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Originally Posted by RichardCarver View Post

Same thing on my S390, switched to Roku and all good.

Thanks Richard for confirming, I wanted to make sure it wasn't a network issue here. I had to have brighthouse out as I was having connection and speed issues, turns out the squirrels had chewed the cable going to my apartment and a neighbor's hers was worse so it was throwing even more interference my direction so the tech fixed both places, and all seems good, i just wondered if i was still having issues since netflix has been screwy today.

Considering the computer and other devices are working ok, and my speed is stable now, i am guessing it could be a netflix or sony issue. Hopefully they get it sorted out. right now i'm watching my instant queue ok, but it's been flakey. I had considered a Roku but the current roku boxes don't have good reviews for the roku 2 I have considered an appleTV as an alternative streaming device, but for streaming I a device that supports netflix amazon, vudu and cinemanow in one device, while i have a cinema now account, and use it sometimes netflix amazon, and vudu are the three most important.
post #2899 of 3991
Hey, I had another question too, the BDP-S590 doesn't seem to recognize 80211n in the (5GHz) range, if i'm not mistaken, the 570, does recognize 5GHz, but of course though stable is an older player, which would lack features I use on the newer players. Does anyone know if the 2013 sony players can recognize 5ghz range? This is only a need for the bedroom player, the living room one I have decided to hard wire, while wireless worked fine, and i have no issues with either player, i decided to have the best connection possible. I also live in an area where there are a lot of other hotspots around so, I've been told and reading has told me that 5ghz can help avoid wireless interference. The problem I've run into is a few of my devices, the sony players, my HP printer, and my iphone 4 can recognize, and connect to 80211n, but only in 2.4ghz.

Just wondered if 5ghz isn't as good as people say it t o be, and that's why devices other then a few don't support it.


Thanks, any feedback would help.
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Hey, I had another question too, the BDP-S590 doesn't seem to recognize 80211n in the (5GHz) range, if i'm not mistaken, the 570, does recognize 5GHz, but of course though stable is an older player, which would lack features I use on the newer players. Does anyone know if the 2013 sony players can recognize 5ghz range? This is only a need for the bedroom player, the living room one I have decided to hard wire, while wireless worked fine, and i have no issues with either player, i decided to have the best connection possible. I also live in an area where there are a lot of other hotspots around so, I've been told and reading has told me that 5ghz can help avoid wireless interference. The problem I've run into is a few of my devices, the sony players, my HP printer, and my iphone 4 can recognize, and connect to 80211n, but only in 2.4ghz.

Just wondered if 5ghz isn't as good as people say it t o be, and that's why devices other then a few don't support it.


Thanks, any feedback would help.
I'm in the same boat as you. I was going to try the set the 590 to use the 5 Ghz band to improve streaming home videos from the network drive, but it can't see the signal. It's odd since 5 Ghz was primarily marketed to use to stream video in the home, but both my Sony TV and Blu-Ray player can't see this signal. While I haven't been able to utilize it, 5 Ghz is supposed to be much better at sending larger bandwidth data between the router and media device, but only over shorter distances compared to 2.4 Ghz.

On Sony's UK website, they list the tech specs for the 2013 Blu-Ray players, and it appears the 2013 flagship model "BDP-S5100" only support the 2.4 Ghz range, and I estimate to cost around $225. Since the S5100 only supports 2.4Ghz, it's safe to assume all of Sony's 2013 model line will also only support 2.4Ghz.
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/blu-ray-disc-player/bdp-s5100#/technical-specifications


Looking at the manual for an available LG 3D player, it appears that it also only use the 2.4 Ghz band. Maybe the companies feel that not enough people have dual-band routers to take advantage of the 5 Ghz band, so they're not going to spend the money on that upgrade.
Edited by Pioneer_Elte - 2/7/13 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

I'm in the same boat as you. I was going to try the set the 590 to use the 5 Ghz band to improve streaming home videos from the network drive, but it can't see the signal. It's odd since 5 Ghz was primarily marketed to use to stream video in the home, but both my Sony TV and Blu-Ray player can't see this signal. While I haven't been able to utilize it, 5 Ghz is supposed to be much better at sending larger bandwidth data between the router and media device, but only over shorter distances compared to 2.4 Ghz.

Looking at the manual for an available LG 3D player, it appears that it also only use the 2.4 Ghz band. Maybe the companies feel that not enough people have dual-band routers to take advantage of the 5 Ghz band, so they're not going to spend the money on that upgrade.

I have the 2nd Generation Airport extreme, which was the first airport to introduce Gigabyte ethernet. It has 80211n with 5Ghz compatibility, however this router has worked solidly on both bandwidths for about 6 years now. Actually, i've never had an issue with the router itself, it has always been other devices that had the issues. Had a cable modem die a few years ago, and of course the buggy firmware on BD players before they got the bugs worked out. In my experience the airport extreme has always been the one router that just worked, and didn't die within 6 months to a year, or even less sometimes.

Does anyone else here use an airport extreme? I was wondering if you could share your experience with it and tell me if it's a good long term router for streaming, or if i should try something else, like i said i've never had any issues, so I can't complain, i'm mainly talking optimization here. I've only used streaming on a regular basis the last couple years. So far everything i've done has worked well. I'm just open for feedback and hearing other people's experiences smile.gif

Thanks
post #2902 of 3991
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

Hey, I had another question too, the BDP-S590 doesn't seem to recognize 80211n in the (5GHz) range, if i'm not mistaken, the 570, does recognize 5GHz, but of course though stable is an older player, which would lack features I use on the newer players. Does anyone know if the 2013 sony players can recognize 5ghz range? This is only a need for the bedroom player, the living room one I have decided to hard wire, while wireless worked fine, and i have no issues with either player, i decided to have the best connection possible. I also live in an area where there are a lot of other hotspots around so, I've been told and reading has told me that 5ghz can help avoid wireless interference. The problem I've run into is a few of my devices, the sony players, my HP printer, and my iphone 4 can recognize, and connect to 80211n, but only in 2.4ghz.

Just wondered if 5ghz isn't as good as people say it t o be, and that's why devices other then a few don't support it.


Thanks, any feedback would help.

Dual band wi-fi chip cost a lot. For a $100 player, Sony needs to cut the costs somewhere. 570 has both dual-band wifi and 1GB on board BDLive memory. 590 has neither.

5GHz band is better because of less interference and congestion. But it also has shoter transmission distance than 2.4GHz.
post #2903 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Dual band wi-fi chip cost a lot. For a $100 player, Sony needs to cut the costs somewhere. 570 has both dual-band wifi and 1GB on board BDLive memory. 590 has neither.

5GHz band is better because of less interference and congestion. But it also has shoter transmission distance than 2.4GHz.

Agreed. 5 GHz may or may not make a difference depending on your environment. Generally speaking, most Blu-ray players do not have high performance Wi-Fi radios because the intention is to reduce cost. If the built in wireless is not sufficient for your needs, get a good quality wireless bridge or (even better) go wired. If running Ethernet is not an option, consider MoCa or PowerLine.
post #2904 of 3991
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Yes: http://support.netflix.com/en/node/443#gsc.tab=0

I was wrong about that list. Sorry. It's not for the new HD format, it shows resolutions for all the Sony BD players, but not if they can get the new HD format. I'll get the 590 tomorrow and I'll see then if it does.

Rich
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Agreed. 5 GHz may or may not make a difference depending on your environment. Generally speaking, most Blu-ray players do not have high performance Wi-Fi radios because the intention is to reduce cost. If the built in wireless is not sufficient for your needs, get a good quality wireless bridge or (even better) go wired. If running Ethernet is not an option, consider MoCa or PowerLine.

I was thinking about that, in the living room where the cable modem and airport are, i have an outlet close enough to plug in an ethernet over power adapter, and then there is an outlet near the tv in the bedroom for another one. How reliable is power over ethernet? like i said 2.4 ghz wireless has worked fine, i just wondered how poe works? since wired can and usually is more reliable then wireless.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

I was thinking about that, in the living room where the cable modem and airport are, i have an outlet close enough to plug in an ethernet over power adapter, and then there is an outlet near the tv in the bedroom for another one. How reliable is power over ethernet? like i said 2.4 ghz wireless has worked fine, i just wondered how poe works? since wired can and usually is more reliable then wireless.

Thanks.

I have all my equipments that are not mobile (e.g. laptop or phone) on Powerline adapters throughout all three levels of my house. It is light years better than wifi. In fact, if you are going to watch live TVs through Windows Media Center extenders like I have, Wi-Fi is never suitable. Make sure you have the 200mbps or higher version of the powerline adapter and don't plug it into a surge protection power strip.
post #2907 of 3991
I have been using Powerline adapters for years, and don't have a single complaint. The Netgear units I have purchased all worked instantly upon being connected to my Netgear router, with no further setup required, and enable me to stream rips of Blu-ray movies from my Synology NAS to three different rooms.
post #2908 of 3991
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Sony are claiming "boosted Wifi range" with the new BDP-S5100, so I'm not sure if that means dual band 5GHz support or they have redesigned the antenna. Either way, I guess there will be "an improvement".
post #2909 of 3991
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Originally Posted by rich584 View Post

I was wrong about that list. Sorry. It's not for the new HD format, it shows resolutions for all the Sony BD players, but not if they can get the new HD format. I'll get the 590 tomorrow and I'll see then if it does.

Rich

It shows the maximum supported stream resolution for a particular player.

The 590 supports the new SuperHD 1080p 5.8kb/s streams if you ISP supports it.

If you have HDMI output resolution set to 1080p on the player, all content (including streaming, local, disk based, etc) will be output to your TV in 1080p "upscaled".
post #2910 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Sony are claiming "boosted Wifi range" with the new BDP-S5100, so I'm not sure if that means dual band 5GHz support or they have redesigned the antenna. Either way, I guess there will be "an improvement".

5GHz will always has shorter range than 2.4GHz. So, that means improved antenna design or newer more sensitive, or MIMO support, wi-fi chip. Knowing Sony, it is cheaper to go the antenna route.

Wifi is a lost cause anyway. You can keep throw money at it but the outcome is never guaranteed.
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