Official Sony BDP-S590 and BDP-390 Thread - Page 98

Can i get power over ethernet stuff at best buy, office depot, or radio shack? Office depot is right next door so i could go in there and look for stuff then i have walmart down the road, best buy is also an option, and so on.

Of course you can. Best Buy is probably your best option. Remember, you should be able to get a pair of them for somewhere around $50 to $60 with 200mbps theoritical speed. Don't over pay. The actual transfer speed varies depending on your house wiring. So, better buy from some place that is easy to return if it doesn't work out for you.

For example: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Actiontec+-+500+Mbps+Powerline+Home+Theater+Network+Adapter+Kit/5215483.p;jsessionid=19D95E8E3356B016D35693CB1679C2BF.bbolsp-app04-44?id=1218625358741&skuId=5215483&st=powerline ethernet&cp=1&lp=1

My ISP does support it, I've watched some Super HD shows on my Sammy e6500s. The reason I'm getting the Sony is one of my AV systems is a Samsung Home Theater with a c5500 BD player integrated into it. Can't put another e6500 on top of the c5500 home theater, the remotes would clash. If that doesn't work as well as my Sammy e6500, I'll ship it back and get a Panasonic. Gave up on them when I found out how well the Sammy c5500 upscaled NF content. Much better than anything Panasonic had at the time. Been almost 3 years now and I'm not gonna give up on that very good sound system.

Thanx, thought nobody was gonna reply to that very simple question.

Rich

Much like wireless, results for PowerLine and MoCa will depend on your environment. Lots of users report good results with both systems, but the wiring in some residences can cause problems, so buy hardware somewhere with a good return policy so you can make sure it solves any problems you're trying to solve.

You've actually seen it? Yesterday DaveFi posted in the Super HD thread that Unblock-US now supports Super HD (is connected to Netflix's Open Connect CDN) so a number of us signed up for a free 7 day trial to try it. I was able to get the Win8 Netflix app and the Netflix players in my Roku 2 XS, PS3 and TiVo Premiere to play the 4300 Kbps and 5800 Kbps "Super HD" video encodes, but was unable to get the Netflix players in either my Panasonic BDT220 or Sony S390 to play them, though the Super HD logo appeared on title description in the Netflix UI on both devices. Checking my router, neither ever connected to any servers in the nflxvideo.net domain. I set up the Unblock-US DNS servers in my router, but even setting them up explicitly in the BDT220 failed (when I tried to set them up in the S390 it wouldn't connect to the net).

All 1080p Netflix capable BDPs should work to play Super HD according to Netflix but I can't get either of mine to do it. Others reported failure to get the BDT220 to work, though I can't recall if anyone else mentioned a BDP-Sx90.

That's interesting--thanks. I checked again this morning and neither BDP will give me Super HD. Actually, neither can open "Example Short 23.976" (and "Example 8 Hour 23.976" no longer displays bit-rate/resolution info) so I can't tell for sure, but neither creates connections to servers in the nflxvideo.net domain. Eyeballing it, I think that they're displaying the super low bit rate encodes, 235- and 375 Kbps and those (plus 750 Kbps) are now gone from the Super HD servers, as of last night I think.

Interesting that it calls it "X-High/HD"; the PS3 calls it "High/SD" (gets to "High/HD" and then flips back to "High/SD" at 4300 Kbps).

I get Super HD on all of my other 1080p Netflix capable devices (Roku 2 XS, PS3, TiVo Premiere and the Win8 Netflix app on this PC), just can't get it from either of my BDPs. Since it's all hooked up to this monitor it's not a big deal .

Though I'm lovin' House of Cards it's so dialog driven it's one of those things that I can "watch" while doing other things. Not much to see that makes me pine for the best high def, but maybe that's just me.

Now I've seen Super HD on all my 1080p-Netflix capable devices (Roku 2 XS, PS3, BDT220, S390 and the Win8 Netflix app on this PC, all connected to this 46" LCD panel). Sometimes I have to restart the Netflix player on a platform to get connected to Super HD servers (nflxvideo.net domain).

So I have just purchased a 590 and I cannot seem to get it to output 3D. I have a ps3 that outputs 3D just fine. I am running it through an Onkyo 818 to an Epson 3020 projector. I have messed around with every setting available, have switched inputs on my receiver and still cannot get it to output 3D. Does anyone have any ideas other than possibly just a faulty unit? I guess I am open to the possibility that it is not 3D compatible with my Onkyo, but I cannot find any info on this possibility. It plays 2D just fine.

Have you tried disabling Deep Color? What happens when you try to play 3D content?

I got the 590 and its PQ in any mode is about the same as my Sammy e6500s. And that's the only good news, sadly. It does use the same UI as the Sammys do, but the remote is very poorly designed. I thought the e6500's remotes were poorly designed, but they're a whole lot better than the Sony's. The one thing the Sammys (all the various models I've tried have the same thing) do is put a counter on the front panel that works with BDs, DVDs, and NetFlix streaming content. All I got on the Sony when streaming was "Net". So, between the lack of a counter on the front panel and the hideous remote, I'm gonna take a pass on this highly recommended BD player. It's just not as well designed as a Sammy. I think.

Rich

Yes, I tried disabling Deep Color and the result does not change. I get the message that the 3D material requires a 3D capable device and will not play the 3D version. I did discover that if I bypass my Onkyo 818 and go directly to the 3D projector, then I can play 3D material. So, something is happening when the hdmi signal is going through the Onkyo. At this point I don't know if this is a problem that is happening with the sony or the onkyo. But I am leaning towards the sony, because my ps3 will play 3D when plugged through the Onkyo.

I just bought a BDP-S590. I am connecting the composite video straight to my TV and the optical out to a Yamaha amp. Is there something I need to do in the settings to enable optical out as I am not receiving any sound from the system?
I just wanted to check what others settings are before I start changing cables and debugging the hardware.

I just did that last night and I didn't have to change any settings.

Rich

Enable bitstream and DD and DTS. May I ask why you are using composite video?

Working now. I think I had DSD set to on by mistake or it needed a reboot. Either way its working fine now :-)
mdavej - I am using composite because for now I have an old 32" CRT that I am using. I am looking for a 65" plus LED to replace it with. In fact I am holding off for the new 75" Samsung models that are coming out in the March time frame with a bit of luck.

Foxbat - how many files have you played via USB with HD audio codecs? I seem to have a real problem playing .mkv files with HD audio, it works about 15% of the time - but most of the time it either plays the video and says there is no audio track which is obviously useless or just gives me a general error saying "unsupported audio track" - Even though I know this not to be true because if I burn a BD disc with the exact same audio it plays fine. Pretty frusrating Bluray player so far, can't play USB mkv files with HD audio most of the time - and it won't stream mkv files with HD audio.

I only tried one because I usually use DLNA streaming instead which plays all my BD rips woithout problem.

If you have problem you need to look into what audio and video codecs are used in those files. Just because it is mkv file and I can play my mkv doesn't mean all mkv can be played back. mkv is just a container. You can dump in all kinds of different video and audio streams in there. Not all of them can be played back. IIRC, only AVC/H.264 video in mkv can be played back.

I've had the 590 for a few weeks now and this thing is turning out to be a phenomenal player and streamer. Blu-Rays look great on my 106" projection screen (as compared to previous Panasonic players I have used) and streaming is smooth as silk even at 2.4 GHZ Wifi. Vudu HDX is flawless and Netflix gives me Dolby Digital Plus without a hitch.

I also did a comparison for PQ between my ROKU box, PS3 and the 590. The 590 definitely does a better job cleaning up the video giving good color and less noise.

All of this was a suprise to me considering the price of this player. Definitely a keeper.

FWIW, I bought my Powerline gear from NewEgg. Outstanding purchase experience. I bought a Netgear bundle called the "Home Theatre Kit" which includes a 4-port Powerline switch and a single port Powerline adapter. I used the switch for connecting my S590 and my AVR to the network and obviously the single port for connecting to my Internet router at the other end. Before, Netflix streaming quality was uneven at best. Now, it's flawless. The Powerline stuff is just ridiculously easy, pure plug-and-play. My Verizon FIOS connection is 15/5, more than sufficient for my needs. I do wish I was with an ISP that supported the new Netflix 5800kbps streaming, but to me it really doesn't matter since the quality is so consistently excellent. I'm also now streaming VUDU HDX, Berliner Philharmoniker, Quello, and sometimes even Pandora through the 590 and it is awesome. For anyone having issues with Wi-Fi signal strength and wanting to take full advantage of the capabilities of this BDP, I highly recommend the Powerline solution, especially if your home has reasonably up-to-date wiring.

Not necessary true for that. Sometimes, old wiring works better. Sometimes, new wiring works better. That's why it is important to have a place to return the powerline kit if it didn't work out for you.

Hi, did anyone have a Firmware Update that don't have cinavia protection?
I hope you can help me guys, always appears the message 3 that mut my movie
Thanks!

Thx for the clarification. I was just relaying what I've read. Maybe "old" and "new" aren't the best qualifiers. Maybe "quality wiring in good condition" is a more appropos descriptor. My house was built (and wired) in 1980. Regardless of whether you buy from a b&m or e-tailer, returns should be hassle-free, which is why I favore NewEgg, Amazon and other reputable online merchants. But I'm a loyal BB customer too. For products like these, where consultation is less necessary, whoever has the best price will get my business so long as they're reputable. If the prices are equal or very close, I'll typically go with the b&m since I can just pick it up on the way home rather than having to wait for it to arrive.

If you upgrade your FiOS service to 50/25 (or 150/65 ) would you then be able to get Netflix streaming @ 5800kbps?