Official Sony BDP-S590 and BDP-390 Thread - Page 103

I was hopping that 790, with almost twice the price, would be much faster than 590. I guess I made the right call not to spend more money I could care less about 4K upscaling. By the time I can afford a 4K TV, there will be many more 4K player to choice from and 790 will be long gone.

Aside from upscaling to 4k, the s790 also has dual hdmi output which allows one HDMI connection to a 3D tv for video and a second HDMI connection to a non-3D AVR for audio. It also allows you to adjust brightness, color, contrast & hue from the player as well as built-in skype capabilities.

I got a 590 to try and it's a shame they don't present thumbnails with DLNA browsing because it would be nice to see when viewing a list of files (my kids like to pick out movies by "poster").

Coming from the 470 I have some questions about the new Netflix interface:
1) Is there a way to bring up the Netflix timebar with a remote button other than pausing playback? The Display button does this on the 470 but on the 590 it brings up small info text in the corner.
2) Is there a way to disable it automatically playing the next episode in a TV series after the brief countdown?
3) Is there a way to present the Queue in some kind of "grid" view rather than the single line which is painful to scroll with a large Queue?

Thanks for any help.

That's pretty much no, no and no--sorry. The only help that I can offer is that FF/REW scroll through a row forward/back by 3 thumbs at a time. That stream status info which comes up when you press DISPLAY has played/total time at the top of it. I think that the "Netflix Post-play Experience" will only automatically play one or two episode; after that it will ask if you want to play the next. I would agree that it needs to be either removed or made optional.

Unfortunately, no. It just has the useless generic video icon as well. I was hoping they changed this with the better DLNA support in the 590 but apparently not.

The lack of these "simple" features is pretty disappointing. This along with me having to remux some of my mkv's and us actually preferring the older Netflix interface unfortunately may mean this isn't a keeper.

Hi, I recently bought a used Sony BDP-S590 blu ray player. When I got it i reset the settings, programmed it for my wi-fi, started a Sony Essentials account and logged into Netflix. Now evertime after power up I try to open Netflix or any other video or music app it says I have a network error or that it can't access internet video services. Each time I verify that it has a network and internet connection and that the firmware is updated. Also the internet browser works. Normally once I log into Sony Essentials on my laptop then Netflix starts to work. I have tried the wi-fi setup, the wired setup, static ip address, the quick start mode, etc. Any ideas on this? I have search the internet and can't find anything. I don't have a memory stick in the back of the bluray so im not sure if its related. I've tried to reset the machine and program the settings into it again. Thanks

My internet is through Rogers and I use the modem provided by them so im not sure if it is related to a setting on it. I am also using unblock us so my DNS server is set on the modem to give me american netflix in canada.

I don't think the DLNA standard supports a client side 'shuffle' function. Are you aware of other devices that do this via DLNA? It may be possible via external software if the player is used as a renderer, but I'm not sure what if any options exist for that. Practically speaking, the DLNA features on Blu-ray players are optimized for video playback.

Not even Oppo offers gapless playback as far as I am aware, which in my mind is also a basic feature for music playback (though I have heard that some of the DLNA equipped AVRs do.)

I thought most DLNA clients support shuffle. I'm almost certain the Western Digital Live SMP player supports shuffle. I already have a music solution so I was actually looking for shuffle for photos.

This interface is what Netflix has decided to standardize on. You won't find many newer devices which don't use it. I have two BDPs, a PS3 and a TiVo Premiere, all of which use that same Netflix UI. The Wii U, Apple TV, Xbox 360 and Win8 Netflix app are the only ones which don't use it that come to mind. The Xbox 360 doesn't used it, inasmuch as they want a consistent interface across all services, voice and gesture controllable via Kinect; the Wii U has similar concerns. The ATV's interface is very nice, though browsing is much the same and I sense that's what you mostly dislike.

What the interface brings with it is support for new features, like adaptive bit rate video, closed captions, DD+ 5.1 sound, selectable soundtracks, people search and "Just for Kids". (I'd mention 1080p video, but that could have been implemented in the old player without changing the UI).

ok so I went over to my Win7 configuration and I was able to get DTS-HD to stream to the s590 with Win7 media sharing. I read some things on the Serviio board that DTS-HD isn't working for mkv. Now the next question is: can I play 24p streaming or is that only for DVD/BD? Right now I can only get 60p. The frame rate in the mkv file is 23.976.

I stand corrected.

I just recently purchased the s590 and have a Netflix question. I cannot find how to access my "watch list". I'm in Canada but am on the US Netflix via unblock us. It shows up on my PS3 but not on the blu ray. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this or fixed it.

Thanks a lot

Tim, unfortunately the issue is your use of Un-Block US.

First, have you registered your BDP with Un-block as they recommend. On their site they say "You may need to open our "Check Service" page from the computer if your TV or Blu-Ray player does not work." - basically means they are logging your BDP's IP address and will allow it to use the service. If not, you are going to get some DNS issues. If memory serves me, not doing this causes similar problems as you are seeing.

I use a similar service, smartDNS from Overplay, and have had similar issues. I bet you registered your device while using the "unblock us" service, right? Sony uses alternate mechanisms to track your location and the DNS whitelabeling doesn't fully hide you from being seen as Canadian. When I did that I got all the great US apps loaded but none of them worked, had the same issues as you. Might have worked work if I used a real VPN, but couldn't be bothered as I only wanted Netflix. What I did was used my default DNS servers and registered the device as a Canadian and set up the apps. Set up my "smart DNS" service via the DNS entries in the network setup. Used the web browser to "register" my BDP with my "smart DNS" service. Then I opened Netflix and could access US content. It messes with the other Canadian app versions, but if you know how to configure DNSMasq on your router you can focus your dns redirects only around Netflix. Netflix will work fine using the dns service making you look like a US location; the other Sony apps won't. Sony, being a content company that happens to make hardware is a little more picky about where the content goes then Netflix :-)

DNS redirections services don't provide a 100% US presence on the Sony machines. But they work great for my Samsung TV with the Smart TV which has similar apps as my Sony BDP 590.

When using Netflix from outside of your home region you cannot see your Instant Queue or add things to it, using any embedded player or the website. If you go to Unblock-US.com and set your region to Canada you'll be able to see your IQ again. The first time you visit their web page with your region outside the one where you account was established it should give you a message explaining the difference with using Netflix while traveling internationally.

Thanks for your reply ! I switched my settings back to Canada and there still wasn't anything. I find it odd that I can add shows to my IQ on the computer (but can't view it on the computer) and can see the list on my PS3 but not anywhere else. I think I've read that you can only use Instant Queue in the US. I didn't know if there was something I needed to do on the Blu Ray player.

Thanks again
Doug

You have to kill the player and start it again after making the switch.

OK, my S590 (about six months old) has started misbehaving, so before I take it out behind the barn, I wanted to check with the collective. It started by doing this thing where sometimes (not always) a movie would start playing just fine, but after about five minutes it'd stop, the player would flash WAIT, and then it would power off. Usually if I powered the player back on and restarted the disc, it'd play all the way through just fine. Now it's gotten worse -- when I load a disc, the tray closes, the player flashes CLOSING for a minute or two after the tray is closed, then spends another couple of minutes flashing LOAD, then sometimes doesn't even recognize that there's a disc in the player. And occasionally it'll randomly shut down in the middle of Netflix or YouTube viewing.

I've turned off deep color and turned off anything to do with TV control over HDMI. I do have a USB flash drive in the back port, but I haven't tried to remove that yet because getting to the back of the player is a bit of a pain. Would that be worth a try? Or is there anything else I can do that doesn't involve a large hammer and/or an S790?

Thanks!

None of that is normal. Your player has a 1 year warranty, so you should get it replaced.

If you want to avoid that, then cleaning the spindle hub or laser may fix your disc issues. But random shutdowns while streaming should not happen.

Why are you considering an S790 rather than an S5100?

OK, I'll contact Sony to start the process. Thanks!

(As for why an S790 rather than an S5100, it's mostly because my understanding was that the S790 was still Sony's top-of-the-line, so if I were going to replace, I might as well upgrade at the same time. For now, though, it looks like I'll be going back to the PS3 as a Blu-ray player.)

I recently purchased a 390 thanks to this thread and quite happy with it. First thing I noticed was scrolling through menus is not as smooth as the ps3. I also haven't used a 590 so I can't compare.
Simple reset didn't help at all so I guess its the 390 but it plays movies fine so I can live with that.

Personally I couldn't justify paying more than double the price of a 590 for features I didn't need or would never use, like 4k upscaling, dual HDMI and analog audio.

I'm getting scratching/static in my Polk 3000 Soundbar when I switch my input from cable mode to HDMI (which is what my blue ray player is connected with to the TV). I don't hear the scratching noise when I use the older RCA cables to hook up the blue-ray player, though.

I'm pretty sure its the audio settings that need to be adjusted through the Blue Ray player but not sure what those need to be at as both the soundbar and blue ray player are new to us.

We have the Sony BDPS390 and the Polk 3000 Soundbar and just want them to play nicely together.

The 790 also has more video manipulation options (nose reduction, etc) than the 590 does, so it can do a better job of improving the video from low-quality DVDs. Since it's a dual-processor system, it also has somewhat faster startup and load times.