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post #3121 of 3487
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I'm afraid I can't help you with your 3D question. I happen to have a 3D test file that is side-by-side (SBS), and played fine on the S590 with a 3D projector.

Now its interesting you were able to get a True HD track to play in a m2ts. Can you explain what tools/process or workflow you used to create the file.

I've tried Makemkv and Tsmuxer ... and this works fine for vc-1, mpeg2 and ac-3, dts, dts-ma ... but truehd is a no-go.
post #3122 of 3487
I ripped the full disc with DVDFab and then created the .m2ts in TSMuxer by selecting the appropriate .mpls file. Note that when I tried to open the MKV file in TSMuxer made from the same disc with MakeMKV the TrueHD track didn't even show up in TSMuxer even though it is for sure present in the MKV.

The 590 doesn't seem to be very happy with MKVs in general so I will probably convert all my movies to .m2ts but unfortunately these files seem to be 2-3 GB larger than the mkv counterpart which is significant.
post #3123 of 3487
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Actually, come to think of it ... I didn't use tsmuxer since the video codec used was avc mpeg 4 so just created the MKV using makemkv but the Sony wouldn't play the file with dolby true hd.

So it could be a issue with makemkv. I will have a go with dvd fab.

I agree with your comment about MKVs being temperamental on the Sony. That has being my experience with m2ts being the most reliable.
Edited by apw2607 - 3/5/13 at 2:59pm
post #3124 of 3487
I bought a 390 strictly for stereo SACD playback a while ago. Right now I use the analog outputs straight to my amp. I am hoping to get a PCM signal to my external DAC (no DSD but does support up to 24/192). Does the 390 output 24/88 or 24/176 PCM over HDMI or only DSD? If it does, could I use a HDMI de-embedder to get high res PCM to my DAC?
post #3125 of 3487
Couple other differences between mkv and m2ts are (1) chapter points support (2) subtitle. mkv support both and Sony player can seek to the chapter points or display subtiles if you have the DLNA server that supports it. m2ts supports neither.
post #3126 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Couple other differences between mkv and m2ts are (1) chapter points support (2) subtitle. mkv support both and Sony player can seek to the chapter points or display subtiles if you have the DLNA server that supports it. m2ts supports neither.

It's a shame then that there isn't better support for MKVs. Besides the no support of MPEG2 (all my DVDs), I have actually had the unit lock up on some MKVs which has required me to manually pull the plug.
post #3127 of 3487
I think 10 seconds press on power button will force the player to reboot too. I have encountered a few lockups like that not only on mkv but also on m2ts IIRC. Basically, anytime you have a network hiccup, the player locks up.
post #3128 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

By "powered off and back on." do you mean that you used the front-panel button or do you mean that you unplugged it from the wall? If you haven't unplugged the player, try that. The front panel button only puts the player into standby mode and does not fully disconnect the power from the player.

A few other things to try are
1. the menu option "reset to factory defaults"
2. remove any USB memory stick/thumb drive
3. unplug the player from the network while playing a problematic disc.

The player claims that standby mode is disabled, as per default. I did not know about holding the power button for ten seconds, so yes, I did end up removing the power each time I tried seeking to the later chapters of the last episode on that disc.

No USB device attached, and although it could be the network, I strongly doubt it. I'll post a video with my new mini camera in a day or two, when it arrives. (No, I didn't buy it for that purpose.)
post #3129 of 3487
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

It's a shame then that there isn't better support for MKVs.

I might sound like a broken record in this thread, but pretty much all issues I've ever encountered with MKV playback have been resolved by taking 10-20-30 seconds to remux the problematic MKV.
post #3130 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

I might sound like a broken record in this thread, but pretty much all issues I've ever encountered with MKV playback have been resolved by taking 10-20-30 seconds to remux the problematic MKV.

Unfortunately that won't help with MPEG2 and VC1 video which is quite a few MKVs for me.
post #3131 of 3487
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Unfortunately that won't help with MPEG2 and VC1 video which is quite a few MKVs for me.

I meant specific issues with supported formats in MKV containers that made your player lock up. Obviously, VC-1 and MPEG2 MKVs need to be remuxed to M2TS with tsMuxeR.
post #3132 of 3487
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Originally Posted by MattB0801 View Post

I bought a 390 strictly for stereo SACD playback a while ago. Right now I use the analog outputs straight to my amp. I am hoping to get a PCM signal to my external DAC (no DSD but does support up to 24/192). Does the 390 output 24/88 or 24/176 PCM over HDMI or only DSD? If it does, could I use a HDMI de-embedder to get high res PCM to my DAC?

I use my 590 with a non DSD capable Denon receiver with DSD turned off on the player and it sends a 176.4 KHz PCM signal. I'm assuming it sends 24 bit, but am not able to confirm.

Not sure about the de-embedder though.
post #3133 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

I use my 590 with a non DSD capable Denon receiver with DSD turned off on the player and it sends a 176.4 KHz PCM signal. I'm assuming it sends 24 bit, but am not able to confirm.

Not sure about the de-embedder though.

Thank you! I'll order an de-embedder from Amazon Best Buy for an easy return if it doesn't work.
Edited by MattB0801 - 3/5/13 at 4:37pm
post #3134 of 3487
Has anyone found the built-in web browser to be useful? It seems as if it can't handle sites with Flash or HTML 5 so I'm not sure what good the "Throw To" function in the Media Remote is since it can't do any web video as far as I can tell.

Also, I noticed this with my older 470 as well but why don't these players ever spin down a disk in the drive? The whole time the player is powered on, the disk is spinning even if watching Netflix for hours.
post #3135 of 3487
Browser is utterly useless. I thought throw to worked on discs as well, but don't quote me on that. In any case, I have no desire to watch a 2hr movie on a 3 inch screen when I have a 60 inch screen right in front of me. All useless gimmicks IMO.

If you're looking for a reason to upgrade from a 470, faster loading, better Netflix and HD YouTube are good ones, not the browser or side view.
post #3136 of 3487
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Has anyone found the built-in web browser to be useful? It seems as if it can't handle sites with Flash or HTML 5 so I'm not sure what good the "Throw To" function in the Media Remote is since it can't do any web video as far as I can tell.

On the 590, I find the browser essentially useless. For example, I went to a website which had a menu structure along the top and then links down below and there was no way to get down to those links, or at least that I could figure out anyway and I tried just about every key and option available on the remote.
post #3137 of 3487
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Has anyone found the built-in web browser to be useful? It seems as if it can't handle sites with Flash or HTML 5 so I'm not sure what good the "Throw To" function in the Media Remote is since it can't do any web video as far as I can tell.

Also, I noticed this with my older 470 as well but why don't these players ever spin down a disk in the drive? The whole time the player is powered on, the disk is spinning even if watching Netflix for hours.

Yes, no flash or html5 support. The 3100/5100 supports html 5. I was able to get a video to play on youtube.com using the new 3100.

... and yes the disk will spin if its in the unit, whether being played or not. Even the new 2013 players do that. Very odd behavior.
post #3138 of 3487
Hi,
I purchased a Sony DBP S590 but it doesn't play divx files. I read in this thread that you have to get an avi fourCC code changer. I used that to set the fourCC description code and the fourCC used codec both to xvid. I burned the file onto a dvd-r but the Sony BD player still doesn't play the file. It says "there is no playable file". Would any of you know what I'm doing wrong ?
Thank you.
post #3139 of 3487
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Originally Posted by sunnymarek View Post

Hi,
I purchased a Sony DBP S590 but it doesn't play divx files. I read in this thread that you have to get an avi fourCC code changer. I used that to set the fourCC description code and the fourCC used codec both to xvid. I burned the file onto a dvd-r but the Sony BD player still doesn't play the file. It says "there is no playable file". Would any of you know what I'm doing wrong ?
Thank you.

That fix is 'suppose' to work. Did you try playing from a USB thumb drive ?
post #3140 of 3487
Sunnymarek, did you finalize your disc? You may also want to try the same file on USB and see if that works.
post #3141 of 3487
Just bought the BDP-S590 at Walmart for $99. Won't work! Powers up, get the Sony/Blu ray splash screen, then it dies. Won't play a disc or show me any streaming functions. Take it back & try another? Disc play looks like it is working, I see the counter moving, but no pic or sound.
EDIT: Contacted Sony & they walked me thru the fix. Only problem now is that it is not putting out Lossless sound, Onkyo receiver says receiving a DD or DTS signal, not getting Dolby True HD, or DTS HD. Any suggestions on changing a setting in the S590?
Edited by Scottfox - 3/6/13 at 1:49pm
post #3142 of 3487
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

That fix is 'suppose' to work. Did you try playing from a USB thumb drive ?

Thanks for that suggesting. It works from a USB thumb drive! But why not from a DVD ?
post #3143 of 3487
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Sunnymarek, did you finalize your disc? You may also want to try the same file on USB and see if that works.
I used Corel DVD copy to burn the file onto a DVD-R disc. I think it finalizes the disc automatically ?
post #3144 of 3487
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Originally Posted by sunnymarek View Post

I used Corel DVD copy to burn the file onto a DVD-R disc. I think it finalizes the disc automatically ?
Don't know, I never used that program. Often when you only do a few files at a time, that's multi-session, so it's left open (unfinalized) so you can add more files later. Dig around and see if there is an option to close or finalize. That's the only thing I can think of that would keep the player from recognizing the files properly.
post #3145 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Scottfox View Post

Just bought the BDP-S590 at Walmart for $99. Won't work! Powers up, get the Sony/Blu ray splash screen, then it dies. Won't play a disc or show me any streaming functions. Take it back & try another? Disc play looks like it is working, I see the counter moving, but no pic or sound.
EDIT: Contacted Sony & they walked me thru the fix. Only problem now is that it is not putting out Lossless sound, Onkyo receiver says receiving a DD or DTS signal, not getting Dolby True HD, or DTS HD. Any suggestions on changing a setting in the S590?

See the last paragraph in post #193 for the fix: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1396469/official-sony-bdp-s590-and-bdp-390-thread/180#post_21805401
post #3146 of 3487
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Originally Posted by sunnymarek View Post

Thanks for that suggesting. It works from a USB thumb drive! But why not from a DVD ?

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason behind Sonys file support with these players. It's not very consistent across media. ... Disk, USB or DLNA.
post #3147 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Scottfox View Post

Just bought the BDP-S590 at Walmart for $99. Won't work! Powers up, get the Sony/Blu ray splash screen, then it dies. Won't play a disc or show me any streaming functions. Take it back & try another? Disc play looks like it is working, I see the counter moving, but no pic or sound.
EDIT: Contacted Sony & they walked me thru the fix. Only problem now is that it is not putting out Lossless sound, Onkyo receiver says receiving a DD or DTS signal, not getting Dolby True HD, or DTS HD. Any suggestions on changing a setting in the S590?

Do you have an HDMI connection directly from the player to your receiver?

Are you either selecting the DTS-MA or TrueHD soundtrack from the disc menu or using the Audio button?
post #3148 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Do you have an HDMI connection directly from the player to your receiver?

Are you either selecting the DTS-MA or TrueHD soundtrack from the disc menu or using the Audio button?

I have HDMI connected directly to my receiver. Usually i select DTS-MA or TrueHD soundtrack using the disc menu.
post #3149 of 3487
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Do you have an HDMI connection directly from the player to your receiver?

Are you either selecting the DTS-MA or TrueHD soundtrack from the disc menu or using the Audio button?

I have HDMI connected directly to my receiver. Usually i select DTS-MA or TrueHD soundtrack using the disc menu.

So you have HDMI out from the BDP player to the receiver, then another HDMI cable from receiver to TV and you have the input for the BDP (not TV/Arc) selected on the receiver, correct?

Is the HDMI cable the only cable feeding audio to your system, or do you have other cables (ex. Optical or coaxial) connected as well?

What model of receiver are you using? How do you have each of the audio settings on the Blu-ray player set currently?
post #3150 of 3487
I have a S590 that's about a month old and I can't FF or RW mkv files that are played from a thumb drive. The files play fine and the audio/video is great, but when I try to FF or RW, it skips a couple of times and stops the playback. Very frustrating as there's no way to get back to the current point without starting all over and watching it again. Any relatively easy way to fix this? Should I use something like Handbrake to convert it to an mp4 file? I had to do that on my Roku XDS to get mkv files to play properly, but it was a PITA and took a lot of time to convert every single thing. Thanks!
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