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post #3331 of 3991
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

Is there a tabulation of real ... or even better, specified vs real ... behaviors from various "sources" including physical media (USB and optical) and streaming?

Specified (Latest info from 2013 players but can equally apply to x90 2012 players since there were no changes)




AVSForum member tested (DLNA native playback)


Edited by apw2607 - 3/27/13 at 4:36pm
post #3332 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

EDIT: in fact do we even know any other BD players out there, other then PS3, enforce Cinavia on streaming?

I was seriously considering getting a Samsung BD player to use with Plex until some users on the Plex forum confirmed that Cinavia is enforced on streaming.
post #3333 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

My list:

I can confirm that Dolby TrueHD and LPCM (5.1) work for .m2ts files.

Now, if they could only fix this annoying DLNA "push" failure with non-MPEG2 .m2ts files things would be really good...
post #3334 of 3991
I have had good experience with my BDP-S590 BD player but I came across something odd when I watched "The Hobbit" 3D. The 3D version is on two discs. Disc one causes a lot of vibrating and noise whereas disc 2 does not. The 2D version did not do this. I have a Panasonic DMP BDT-210 in my bedroom (it was my first 3D BD player but I switched to the Sony since everything else is Sony and the operation is more seamless. The 210 displayed vibration from disc 1 also but to a lesser degree. The Sony is on a glass shelf; the Panasonic on a plastic topped (Ikea cart). I dod return the movie to Target and got another...Just wondering if anyone at this thread bought The Hobbit 3D and experienced this. I haven't seen this discussed at a Blu-ray review forum so far.
post #3335 of 3991
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

I can confirm that Dolby TrueHD and LPCM (5.1) work for .m2ts files.

Now, if they could only fix this annoying DLNA "push" failure with non-MPEG2 .m2ts files things would be really good...

Can you remind me again how you create the m2ts that has trueHd and LPCM working. Is this using dvd fab ?
post #3336 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Can you remind me again how you create the m2ts that has trueHd and LPCM working. Is this using dvd fab ?

Yes, Blu-ray Copy in DVD Fab.
post #3337 of 3991
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

I have had good experience with my BDP-S590 BD player but I came across something odd when I watched "The Hobbit" 3D. The 3D version is on two discs. Disc one causes a lot of vibrating and noise whereas disc 2 does not. The 2D version did not do this. I have a Panasonic DMP BDT-210 in my bedroom (it was my first 3D BD player but I switched to the Sony since everything else is Sony and the operation is more seamless. The 210 displayed vibration from disc 1 also but to a lesser degree. The Sony is on a glass shelf; the Panasonic on a plastic topped (Ikea cart). I dod return the movie to Target and got another...Just wondering if anyone at this thread bought The Hobbit 3D and experienced this. I haven't seen this discussed at a Blu-ray review forum so far.

I had this happen with my BDP-BX58. It would vibrate when playing discs, and was more pronounced when watching 3D blu-ray discs (maybe they're a tad thicker than 2D blu-ray discs - hence more vibration from the additional mass), and mine was also on a glass shelf. I ended up returning the unit to Costco (after 8 months and with no questions) and got the BDP-BX59 unit for $20 cheaper than what I paid for the BX58, so I wasn't upset one bit!
post #3338 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

I had this happen with my BDP-BX58. It would vibrate when playing discs, and was more pronounced when watching 3D blu-ray discs (maybe they're a tad thicker than 2D blu-ray discs - hence more vibration from the additional mass), and mine was also on a glass shelf. I ended up returning the unit to Costco (after 8 months and with no questions) and got the BDP-BX59 unit for $20 cheaper than what I paid for the BX58, so I wasn't upset one bit!

Do the 3D BDs spin any faster? the maximum bitrate is higher for a 3D BD than a 2D BD. The Video bitrate has a max of 60Mb/s for a 3D BD and the video bitrate has max of 40Mb/s for a 2D BD.(54Mb/s with audio and video) Not sure what the max bitrate with audio and video is for a 3D BD.
Edited by aaronwt - 3/27/13 at 9:29am
post #3339 of 3991
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Do the 3D BDs spin any faster? the maximum bitrate is higher for a 3D BD than a 2D BD. The Video bitrate has a max of 60Mb/s for a 3D BD and the video bitrate has max of 40Mb/s for a 2D BD.(54Mb/s with audio and video) Not sure what the max bitrate with audio and video is for a 3D BD.

Good question. Did a quick search and came up with this
http://www.hughsnews.ca/faqs/authoritative-blu-ray-disc-bd-faq/8-recording-and-reading-speed

"At single speed (1x) information is written to or read from a BD disc at 4.29 MB (4,495,625 bytes or 35,965,000 bits) per second. Spinning the disc at higher velocities increases these rates, which are then expressed as multiples of these figures (e.g. 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, etc.).

To accommodate its extended set of features (high bitrate video and audio encoding, out-of-mux streams, etc.), a two-dimensional (2D) BD-ROM AV (HDMV/BD-J) disc is played at 1.5x speed (6,743,438 bytes or 53,947,500 bits per second) to achieve a normal viewing rate and a three-dimensional (3D) disc at 2x speed (8,991,250 bytes or 71,930,000 bits per second).

Putting BD performance in perspective, 1x CD transfers 0.15 MB (153,000 bytes) per second while DVD transfers 1.32 MB (1,385,000 bytes) per second. In BD terms 1x is equivalent to roughly 29.4x CD or 3.3x DVD."
post #3340 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Specified

My list:

Thank you. Is it safe to assume that source is not significant ... USB/Disc/Stream? I thought I'd picked up somewhere that something would play from a USB drive but not via DLNA.
post #3341 of 3991
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Yes, Blu-ray Copy in DVD Fab.

Ok .. I'll update the spreadsheet.
post #3342 of 3991
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

Thank you. Is it safe to assume that source is not significant ... USB/Disc/Stream? I thought I'd picked up somewhere that something would play from a USB drive but not via DLNA.

These are all native playbacks and over DLNA ... but I'm 99% certain they apply to USB too.

Disc playback shouldn't matter either if you're just reading data disks ... but I've not tested.
post #3343 of 3991
Is there an iPad compatible remote control app for the 590? If so, can you point me to it? Seems like I have seen the app mentioned in this forum but I can't seem to find where to download it from. Thanks!
post #3344 of 3991
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Is there an iPad compatible remote control app for the 590? If so, can you point me to it? Seems like I have seen the app mentioned in this forum but I can't seem to find where to download it from. Thanks!

The following apps are available

Sony Mediaremote
Sony TV Side view
Sony NeworkAudioremote (with DLNA Server)
Any DLNA remote / DLNA server app. E.g. iMediashare





post #3345 of 3991
Does anyone know if there will be an app for MLB like they have for NHL. I would watch MLB last year through Playon onto my tv but my computer was too slow for a decent stream.
post #3346 of 3991
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Can the owners here take the Sony BD survey. There are questions on where sony can improve including apps, user interface and DLNA file support. Only takes 30 seconds.

You'll find it under recommendations on the XMB on your Sony BD player !!
post #3347 of 3991
Just got an S590 from Amazon and the HDMI port doesn't seem to be working. I've tried three different cables and two different TVs with no output from the HDMI. The composite video out works fine.

Anyone else experience this?
post #3348 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Just got an S590 from Amazon and the HDMI port doesn't seem to be working. I've tried three different cables and two different TVs with no output from the HDMI. The composite video out works fine.

Anyone else experience this?

Not me, but it sounds like you received a defective player. I would have them send you a replacement.
post #3349 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Just got an S590 from Amazon and the HDMI port doesn't seem to be working. I've tried three different cables and two different TVs with no output from the HDMI. The composite video out works fine.

Anyone else experience this?
Before you return it, try turning off Deep Color.
post #3350 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Not me, but it sounds like you received a defective player. I would have them send you a replacement.

Yeah, got one coming from Amazon...but it won't be here until April 9th - backordered. mad.gif

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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Before you return it, try turning off Deep Color.

Tried that, and other settings, to no avail. This is the first "out of the box" defective piece of electronics I think I have ever got, so I still count myself lucky. cool.gif
post #3351 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Yeah, got one coming from Amazon...but it won't be here until April 9th - backordered. mad.gif
Tried that, and other settings, to no avail. This is the first "out of the box" defective piece of electronics I think I have ever got, so I still count myself lucky. cool.gif

I think the stock is starting to dry up now with the 5100 freely available. Amazon themselves are no longer selling the player direct ....

Have you tried wiggling the HMDI cable in the HDMI socket of the 590? Other things to try.

Try setting the output HMDI resolution to a fixed value. Try 1080p, then 1080i ... 720p, rather than using AUTO. Are you going through a receiver ? Try wiring direct.

I have to say, its very unlikely the player is defective.
post #3352 of 3991
^^^

Yup tried all that, plus three different cables from two different manufacturers and two different TVs. It's busted. biggrin.gif
post #3353 of 3991
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After the player has booted and you get no signal ... Over HDMI ... Keep your finger on the stop button for over 10s. It will force the player to output 480p over HDMI. Let see if it at least does that.
post #3354 of 3991
Mine is a very similar problem that Alan P just posted above.
The HDMI connection doesn't work anymore.
I bought (planning ahead) the S590 5 months ago and connected it to my standard old LG LCD TV and was working OK. (Love how this BD player upscale regular DVDs)
Yesterday I upgraded my TV to a LG Cinema 3D (42LM3400) and plugged my S590 to it. I couldn't make it to work with the HDMI cable, just RCA. I tried 3 different cables, but no luck. (Cables are OK. I can connect my iPad to the TV).
This morning, I swtich back the TV, and now it doesn't work in this one either (again just RCA works).
When I connect with HDMI, in the old TV I can see for just half a second, the blue line it usually shows while it load all the options (settings, photo, music, video, etc) but then the screen goes black.
With the new TV, the screen is always black.
What happened? Why my HDMI connection stopped working? Any ideas what else can I try?
post #3355 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Can the owners here take the Sony BD survey. There are questions on where sony can improve including apps, user interface and DLNA file support. Only takes 30 seconds.

You'll find it under recommendations on the XMB on your Sony BD player !!

I don't see a survey in the Recommendations list on my 590.

It's not a surprise, but they really need to improve their online Support. I bothered to report the "DLNA push" issue I have uncovered and it basically was "I forwarded this to an appropriate department" and that's the end of it. There's no follow-through to resolution and I don't know if they even fully understand the problem (I get the impression that they think it is a TV Sideview app problem even though I tried to make it clear that it is a 590 issue). I asked how I would be made aware of the resolution and they said when it's available "the resolution will be released on our support website" which to me means I will never see anything about it again.
post #3356 of 3991
jpmart, that happened to me a couple of times. I would get sound but a black screen. What I had to do is do a reset a couple of times (hold down the on/off button). Eventually it came back on.

Even though I like these players, I am getting annoyed at the inconsistency. Just bought another Asus OPlay for streaming. Never have to mess with settings in the middle of a show and have to start over. Only difference is there is no blu ray player. But at least all .avi files play.
post #3357 of 3991
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Mine is a very similar problem that Alan P just posted above.
The HDMI connection doesn't work anymore.
I bought (planning ahead) the S590 5 months ago and connected it to my standard old LG LCD TV and was working OK. (Love how this BD player upscale regular DVDs)
Yesterday I upgraded my TV to a LG Cinema 3D (42LM3400) and plugged my S590 to it. I couldn't make it to work with the HDMI cable, just RCA. I tried 3 different cables, but no luck. (Cables are OK. I can connect my iPad to the TV).
This morning, I swtich back the TV, and now it doesn't work in this one either (again just RCA works).
When I connect with HDMI, in the old TV I can see for just half a second, the blue line it usually shows while it load all the options (settings, photo, music, video, etc) but then the screen goes black.
With the new TV, the screen is always black.
What happened? Why my HDMI connection stopped working? Any ideas what else can I try?

After the player has booted and you get no signal ... Over HDMI ... Keep your finger on the stop button for over 10s. It will force the player to output 480p over HDMI. Let see if it at least does that.
post #3358 of 3991
Three times now I have had the 590 freeze up for several seconds and then just stop playback while watching .M2TS files over DLNA. And then, frustratingly, it won't resume requiring me to painfully fast forward well into the file to try to find where it stopped. I guess it could be my DLNA server (J River Media Center) but has anyone else seen this behavior?
post #3359 of 3991
I got my S590 at Sams today (BDP-BX59) for 88.88 plus tax. I let the sales clerk talk me into a 12 month replacement plan for $5.72.

I don't have a 3-D TV, but the Built-In Wireless LAN was the selling point.

The Firmware version that came with the S590 was M12.R.0430.
Edited by See The Light - 3/31/13 at 11:58am
post #3360 of 3991
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Three times now I have had the 590 freeze up for several seconds and then just stop playback while watching .M2TS files over DLNA. And then, frustratingly, it won't resume requiring me to painfully fast forward well into the file to try to find where it stopped. I guess it could be my DLNA server (J River Media Center) but has anyone else seen this behavior?

In some instances with MKV containers but my experience with m2ts containers has being rock solid.
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