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post #3391 of 3991
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^ the only stb that has a real browser and supports flash is google tv. Even that though isn't all its cracked up to be.
post #3392 of 3991
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^ the only stb that has a real browser and supports flash is google tv. Even that though isn't all its cracked up to be.

Thanks. I was wondering what platform out there actually supported flash, and had a real browser.

How does one stream what is being viewed from a desktop computer to a big screen in another room?
post #3393 of 3991
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How does one stream what is being viewed from a desktop computer to a big screen in another room?

Not sure what you are asking? Are you talking about mirroring a computer desktop on your tv or streaming local media from a computer to your tv via a bluray player like the s590.

If the latter you need a DLNA server running on your computer such as Serviio.
post #3394 of 3991
Serviio supports streaming the PC desktop in addition to using DLNA to stream audio and video files. Well, sort of. You also have to run a desktop capture program which creates a video stream that serviio can forward.

See http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=stream_pc

Another option is to run a really long HDMI cable (with appropriate HDMI extender circuitry) from the computer to the receiver.
post #3395 of 3991
To mirror your PC on a TV, you won't use your Sony at all, rather a direct connection via HDMI, VGA or some other video distribution system.

May I ask why mirroring is a requirement? It kind of negates the need for a streaming player altogether.
Edited by mdavej - 4/15/13 at 8:17am
post #3396 of 3991
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I'm disapointd as I am realizing that my S590, even though it can play You Tube Videos, it seems it cannot play media from web sites like Animal Planet's Live Cams, as they use Adobe Flash ??.

Is Flash so complicated or expensive that it cannot be easily integrated into a Sony BD player?

http://www.apl.tv/

http://www.apl.tv/explore-beluga-whales.htm

BTY, I use my remote from my BX-37 for my BX-59, as it's larger, and is more ergonomically pleasing to use.

It is not that Flash is complicated or expensive, but it is actually a program that Adobe owns and they make it available in forms that run on different operating systems. They do not support all operating systems, or some companies do not choose to accept Adobe's licensing terms. So, not sure in this case if the absence of Flash is due to Adobe not offering it in a form Sony can run on their smart BD players, or if it is a licensing thing where they did not want to roll the added cost into their players.
post #3397 of 3991
adobe flash pretty much doesn't work outside a PC. Adobe discontinued mobile flash player development a year or so ago.
post #3398 of 3991
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Just to note sony did improve the browser on the new s3100 and s5100 players. It does support some HTML5 video. I tested the s3100 with youtube running inside the Sony opera browser and it did play the video.
post #3399 of 3991
Two problems I'm having:

1) The S590 does not see/ find my DLNA server from my Router. My laptop can find the server OK. I tried refreshing server connection list, etc. But no dice. I have even gone so far as to hard wire the connection from the Blu Ray to the Router but it still does not see it. Even my phone and tablet can see the DLNA server from the router. Is there any trick or tips to help fix this?

2) The S590 does not play some MP4 Files I have. The details of the files are:
mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC
48000Hz 317 kb/s tot , stereo (2/0)

Is there a way to update something or change a setting so that it works?

Thanks!
post #3400 of 3991
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Two problems I'm having:

1) The S590 does not see/ find my DLNA server from my Router. My laptop can find the server OK. I tried refreshing server connection list, etc. But no dice. I have even gone so far as to hard wire the connection from the Blu Ray to the Router but it still does not see it. Even my phone and tablet can see the DLNA server from the router. Is there any trick or tips to help fix this?

2) The S590 does not play some MP4 Files I have. The details of the files are:
mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC
48000Hz 317 kb/s tot , stereo (2/0)

Is there a way to update something or change a setting so that it works?

Thanks!

1) without knowing what the DLNA server is - its hard to say it should be able to find the thing at least. Is the dlna server configurable through profiles ?

If the DLNA server is miniDLNA then check the s790 official thread for miniDLNA fixes

2) mp4 should play ok. So long as there is no DRM. Try throwing it in a MKV container instead.
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2) The S590 does not play some MP4 Files I have. The details of the files are:
mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC
48000Hz 317 kb/s tot , stereo (2/0)

You only reference audio codec information. Are these audio or video files? What is the extension on the file .MP4 or .M4A?

.M4A is audio only. Be sure to use the. 'Music' menu to play any audio files.
post #3402 of 3991
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

1) without knowing what the DLNA server is - its hard to say it should be able to find the thing at least. Is the dlna server configurable through profiles ?

If the DLNA server is miniDLNA then check the s790 official thread for miniDLNA fixes

2) mp4 should play ok. So long as there is no DRM. Try throwing it in a MKV container instead.

Its a dlna server off of a TP-LINK Router (N750 / WDR4300).
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You only reference audio codec information. Are these audio or video files? What is the extension on the file .MP4 or .M4A?

.M4A is audio only. Be sure to use the. 'Music' menu to play any audio files.

MP4 Video File. No audio plays while playing the video file.
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post #3404 of 3991
How the hell does my S 590 not have the MLB app yet. Gurrrrrrrrrr
Edited by ehren - 4/24/13 at 3:59pm
post #3405 of 3991
I ordered a second S590 from Amazon on March 25th and at that time the site said it was in stock, but apparently it was not because I still don't have it and Amazon has sent me no less than 5-6 "delayed shipment" notifications. Does anyone know where I can get one for about $100, which is what Amazon's price was?
post #3406 of 3991
I've found one other person who had issues with The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" 3D version on disc 1 on his S590. I posted this at a Sony community forum and sent the message to Sarah Kepler at Sony Listens. The 3D version of the movie is on two discs. Disc one vibrates like hell on the S590 (I also have a Pannasonic BDT 210 and I can detect a slight vibration but nothing like the Sony). Disc two and the 2D BD disc are normal. Here's the link to my post and various responses. Anyone else here bought this movie in 3D?

http://community.sony.com/t5/Blu-Ray-General/Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-3D-Disc-1-causes-vibrations-in-BDP/m-p/118859#M3546
post #3407 of 3991
I have it in 3D -will try it out asap.
What do you mean by "vibration"?
The picture vibrates?
You notice it right from the beginning?
post #3408 of 3991
Sorry if this has been covered before ( I did search and find only one reference to my issue), but I am new to the thread and the 590. Has anyone had any success streaming from a pogoplug? The files show up but when I try to play, I get the "unsupported format or corrupt file." The same files (.mp4, divx avi) play fine when streamed from a PC using Windows Media Player as the streamer or directly from a usb hard drive. My Logitech revues have no problem streaming from the pogoplug.
post #3409 of 3991
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Originally Posted by Bri in Mtl View Post

I have it in 3D -will try it out asap.
What do you mean by "vibration"?
The picture vibrates?
You notice it right from the beginning?
Yes you can here it / feel it soon as the disc starts spinning. Putting your hand on the S590, you can definitely feel the player vibrating. 3D disc two is fine as is the 2D BD version. I have to clarify-after the film is playing for about 20 minutes, the vibrations cease.
Edited by steve ans - 4/24/13 at 8:33pm
post #3410 of 3991
I wanted to further clarify. The vibrations and noise "calm down" after about twenty minutes into the film but can still be felt by touching the S590 and come and go and get louder at times.
Edited by steve ans - 4/24/13 at 10:04pm
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I wanted to further clarify. The vibrations and noise "calm down" after about twenty minutes into the film but can still be felt by touching the S590 and come and go and get louder at times.

Can confirm that the vibration is definitely present in the start of the film. Then subsides as you jump to later scene selections.
I get the vibration in the beginning of the 2nd disc also.
Picture quality appears fine -great actually on my Samsung D7000.
Not sure if it's a big issue -my concern is that this mechanical vibration can damage the player.
post #3412 of 3991
I share the concern and am hoping Sony engineering takes a look at this.
post #3413 of 3991
Seems like since sony moved to a lighter plastic case instead of metal, the player just isn't massive enough to dampen the normal vibrations from these very fast spinning drives. I think this is simply going to be the new norm as these players get smaller an lighter. A few have reported that exchanging the player a few times they eventually find one with less vibration. If it bothers you, that's probably the best course. There certainly won't be any kind of firmware fix for it. Their drive supplier simply needs tighter tolerances which probably won't happen.
post #3414 of 3991
Seems like since sony moved to a lighter plastic case instead of metal, the player just isn't massive enough to dampen the normal vibrations from these very fast spinning drives. I think this is simply going to be the new norm as these players get smaller an lighter. A few have reported that exchanging the player a few times they eventually find one with less vibration. If it bothers you, that's probably the best course. There certainly won't be any kind of firmware fix for it. Their drive supplier simply needs tighter tolerances which probably won't happen.
post #3415 of 3991
But this vibration doesn't occur with other Blu-ray disc titles 3D or not. Nor is it as evident on my Panasonic DMP-BDT210. And my Panny is plastic too. I checked many of my 32+ 3D movies and only the Hobbit 3D causes this!
Edited by steve ans - 4/25/13 at 8:19am
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But this vibration doesn't occur with other Blu-ray disc titles 3D or not. Nor is it as evident on my Panasonic DMP-BDT210. And my Panny is plastic too. I checked many of my 32+ 3D movies and only the Hobbit 3D causes this!
Ahhh, that's simple then. The disc itself isn't balanced, which is very common. A different one will probably work fine. But I could have sworn my old Panny 210 had a metal enclosure, as did my old sony 570's. I never experienced any vibration issues with those.
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Has anyone had any success streaming from a pogoplug? The files show up but when I try to play, I get the "unsupported format or corrupt file." The same files (.mp4, divx avi) play fine when streamed from a PC using Windows Media Player as the streamer or directly from a usb hard drive. My Logitech revues have no problem streaming from the pogoplug.

I'm not familiar with the pogoplug, but If the same files play fine directly from a USB drive, it probably means that the pogoplug is converting them to an unsupported format before streaming. Check if there any server settings for streaming on the pogoplug.
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Did some more testing. There does appear to be a issue with M2TS where the video codec used is not Mpeg2

I have a number of m2ts files that use Mpeg2 video codec, and all will play fine using a DLNA remote app such as TV sideview.

However, if the M2TS uses a video codec that is either AVC/MPEG4/H264 or VC-1, the video will fail to play via the DLNA remote.

A identical MKV (with AVC/MPEG4/AVC) does however play using the app ! VC-1 must be put into a M2TS container for it to play on Sony BD players ... so anything with VC-1 can't seem to be remote played from the app.

I've also got a bunch of VOBs (with MPEG2 Video codec) and M4Vs (H264) and they all play fine too from TV side view ...

Soooo ... yea, there does appear to be a issue with M2TS files with the remote app, when the video codec is either AVC/MPEG4/H264 or VC-1. Its a maybe if this gets fixed. I suspect Sony simply doesn't know about it.

Have you been able to test this recently? I still get the same behavior when using J River Media Center as the server and control point (non-MPEG2 M2TS files fail to play). However, I don't know what has changed but now I can't get TS or M2TS to play with the Side View app regardless of the codec (Playon server with no conversion)??
post #3419 of 3991
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Ahhh, that's simple then. The disc itself isn't balanced, which is very common. A different one will probably work fine. But I could have sworn my old Panny 210 had a metal enclosure, as did my old sony 570's. I never experienced any vibration issues with those.
You are correct. The Panny 210 is metal except for the top, which is plastic. But if this is common, I've never run across it before.
post #3420 of 3991
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

...I could have sworn my old Panny 210 had a metal enclosure...

My BDT110 does (all the way around, including the top, but the 210 and 310 had a hands free sensors on top); my BDT220's enclosure is plastic.
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